Billboard Hot 100: 11/13/2021

[atg]

Nov 8, 2021 23:18:06 GMT -5 rosalina4812 said:

Heat Waves has got to be one of the most interesting chart runs ever. First being referenced in the now biggest Article of Our Own fanfiction of the same name about Minecraft Youtubers, and it rose in US Spotify to the 30s. As once the meme train of that ran out, it got picked up by Tiktok. It starting rising up in Global Spotify at this point. Then FIFA got the song and it was the most loved song on the soundtrack. Global Spotify exploded and US Spotify along with it. Then the popular Netflix show Never Had I Ever featured the song. By then it was too late. Everyone has Heat Waves faking them out.

I would definitely say the Netflix show helped resurge its second wind on streaming as its the most recent media that the song was on. Its also one of the few songs on the charts that’s doing well on all metrics and even though our 2 biggest songs so far this decade has proven to us that this might not seem like a big deal, still having big numbers across the board on week 41 is still a thing to look at, especially a song that hasn’t peaked yet.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Nov 8, 2021 16:36:14 GMT -5 reginaphalange said:

Nov 8, 2021 14:39:46 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Maybe this era won’t be as big for him as his last one was; it’s still been pretty good so far.

Um actually it's doing even better singles-wise? His last project only spawned one smash hit, I Don't Care. The others didn't even reach the top 10.

I don’t think it's fair to consider his last album before Equals to be Divide and ignore the whole collabs album. He already ""underperformed"" to Divide's standards two years ago.

I was referring to Divide, but you’re right. This album might have more substantial hits than the collabs one - while I Don’t Care was pretty big, I wouldn’t discount the album’s other singles that still did decently even if they didn’t have much longevity.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Notable Gains:
#76. Latto - Big Energy (+12)

Notable Losses:
#45. The Weeknd - Take My Breath (-13)
#52. Tai Verdes - A-O-K (-12)
#54. Swedish House Mafia and The Weeknd - Moth to a Flame (-27)
#56. Young Thug with Drake and Travis Scott - Bubbly (-11)
#58. Lee Brice - Memory I Don't Mess With (-14)
#75. Elvie Shane - My Boy (-21)
#83. Ivan Cornejo - Está Dañada (-11)
#85. BIA feat. Nicki Minaj - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY (-10)
#86. MoneyBagg Yo feat. Lil Durk and EST Gee - Switches & Dracs (-17)
#89. Lil Durk - Pissed Me Off (-27)
#95. RealestK - WFM (-17)
#96. Loza Alexander - Let's Go Brandon (-58)
#99. Bryson Gray feat. Tyson James and Chandler Chump - Let's Go Brandon (-71)

Re-entries:
#19. Michael Jackson - Thriller
#37. Bobby "Boris" Pickett and the Crypt Keepers - Monster Mash
#40. Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters
#42. Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me

Notable Dropouts:
Thot Shit (20 weeks)
Ain't Shit (14 weeks)
No Friends in the Industry (8 weeks)
In the Bible (8 weeks)

Biggest Gain in Sales: Bad Habits
Biggest Gain in Streaming: Shivers
Biggest Gain in Airplay: Easy On Me

Gained in Points:
#1. Adele - Easy On Me (=)
#4. Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits (+1)
#6. Ed Sheeran - Shivers (+1) *new peak*
#8. Doja Cat - Need to Know (+1) *new peak*
#10. Glass Animals - Heat Waves (+3) *new peak*
#13. Måneskin - Beggin' (+1) *new peak*
#14. Elton John and Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) (+1) *new peak*
#16. Doja Cat and The Weeknd - You Right (=)
#28. Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever (+5)
#29. NEIKED, Mae Muller, and Polo G - Better Days (+6) *new peak*
#30. Farruko - Pepas (=)
#31. Jordan Davis feat. Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt (+5) *new peak*
#32. Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT (-3)
#34. Luke Combs - Cold As You (+5) *new peak*
#35. Justin Bieber - Ghost (+2)
#36. Dustin Lynch feat. Lauren Alaina or MacKenzie Porter - Thinking 'Bout You (+7) *new peak*
#39. Chris Stapleton - You Should Probably Leave (+2) *new peak*
#43. Normani feat. Cardi B - Wild Side (+3)
#46. Capella Grey - Gyalis (+2)
#47. Old Dominion - I Was On a Boat that Day (+2)
#48. Zac Brown Band - Same Boat (+5) *new peak*
#49. Baby Keem and Kendrick Lamar - family ties (+1)
#51. Chlöe - Have Mercy (=)
#53. Blxst and Tyga feat. Ty Dolla $ign - Chosen (+3) *new peak*
#59. Kane Brown - One Mississippi (+9) *new peak*
#62. Morgan Wallen - Sand in My Boots (+2)
#67. Michael Ray - Whiskey And Rain (=)
#68. Jon Pardi - Tequila Little Time (+6) *new peak*
#69. Gunna and Future - Too Easu (+2)
#74. 42 Dugg and Future - Maybach (+3)
#80. Giveon - For Tonight (+3) *new peak*
#91. Grupo Firme - Ya Superame (+1) *new peak*
#92. Jonas Brothers - Who's In Your Head (+1) *new peak*
#97. Priscilla - Just About Over You (-2)
#98. Parker McCollum - To Be Loved By You (-2)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

wow only 5 new debuts, this week's super slow

BOTW: Eat It - the only really good song this week. Overpass Graffiti does nothing for me, there were better songs on =.

WOTW: Ghost Town - well I guess we're already getting ready to replace Shawn Mendes. Just a shame he's not any better but yet given how boring and basic yet still catchy this is...get ready for radio to play this to death. Ugh.

[Gary]

Another random stat on Monster Mash - charting in week 38 this week.... by today's standards not a big number but

Something for BLfan

At the time of week 37 in September 1973, Monster Mash trailed only The Twist (39 weeks) for longest chart run in Hot 100 history

[Groovy]

Nov 9, 2021 7:06:47 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Notable Gains:
#76. Latto - Big Energy (+12)

Like I said, this will probably be a big hit in 2022. 

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[phieaglesfan712]

Nov 9, 2021 8:41:51 GMT -5 Gary said:

Another random stat on Monster Mash - charting in week 38 this week.... by today's standards not a big number but

Something for BLfan

At the time of week 37 in September 1973, Monster Mash trailed only The Twist (39 weeks) for longest chart run in Hot 100 history

I’m so glad my initial prediction of it not charting was incorrect, and I got to see it chart in my lifetime.

[nathanalbright]

Interestingly enough this song was a 34+ week song missed in the records I had so it was nice to be able to update it :)

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2021 » / « 11 » / « 09 »

1(=) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 111.52(-0.02)
2(=) Adele - Easy On Me 88.81(+1.41)
3(=) Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 85.45(+0.14)
4(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 82.39(-0.66)
5(=) Måneskin - Beggin 73.11(+0.08)
6(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 68.70(-0.70)
7(=) Wizkid - Essence (feat. Tems) 68.35(+0.11)
8(+1) Doja Cat - Need To Know 65.04(+0.54)
9(-1) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 63.85(-1.46)
10(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 58.66(-0.65)

12(=) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 53.08(+0.62)

26(=) Drake - Girls Want Girls f/Lil Baby 34.53(+0.73)

40(+1) Coldplay X BTS - My Universe 26.25(+0.61)

72(+17) Post Malone & The Weeknd - One Right Now 17.64(+3.08)

85(+8) NEIKED, Mae Muller & Polo G - Better Days 14.99(+0.64)

-(-) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window 3.06(+2.07) ++

[SPRΞΞ]

Nov 9, 2021 7:06:47 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Re-entries:
#19. Michael Jackson - Thriller
#37. Bobby "Boris" Pickett and the Crypt Keepers - Monster Mash
#40. Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters
#42. Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me

where did Thriller peak last year? I wonder if it has potential to hit the Top 10 again in the future?

[Naos]

I'm glad the "Let's Go Brandon" songs are collapsing.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Nov 9, 2021 11:02:19 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

Nov 9, 2021 7:06:47 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Re-entries:
#19. Michael Jackson - Thriller
#37. Bobby "Boris" Pickett and the Crypt Keepers - Monster Mash
#40. Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters
#42. Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me

where did Thriller peak last year? I wonder if it has potential to hit the Top 10 again in the future?

It re-entered at #48. The latter could happen if somehow Halloween even more popular, musically speaking. But perhaps this year was a blip due to things starting to return to normal. We'll have to wait until next year to find out for sure.

[Gary]

The growth of streaming to other genres beyond rap probably has something to do with it

[phieaglesfan712]

Nov 9, 2021 11:23:40 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Nov 9, 2021 11:02:19 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

where did Thriller peak last year? I wonder if it has potential to hit the Top 10 again in the future?

It re-entered at #48. The latter could happen if somehow Halloween even more popular, musically speaking. But perhaps this year was a blip due to things starting to return to normal. We'll have to wait until next year to find out for sure.

2023 or 2024, depending on when they decide to do the 40th anniversary for Thriller could be an opportunity for #1. 2024 really has the potential to be a big Halloween with the holiday falling on a Thursday, and Somebody’s Watching Me and Ghostbusters also celebrating the 40th anniversary that year.

[Au$tin]

Thriller will now never reach #1.

[Choco]

I remember being floored when I was notified of the fact that Thriler has never actually been a #1 hit. It felt like the biggest song ever due to how popular the video is. Conversely, I had never heard the Paul McCartney collaboration that was apparently the best charting hit of that album...

[phieaglesfan712]

Speaking of Paul McCartney, I hope Wonderful Christmastime can become his 58th Top 10 this holiday season before Drake totally blows past his total.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Pls god no. Of all the Christmas songs, not one of the worst

[kindofbiased]

Been a while since we’ve had a week with literally one song rising 10 spots or higher

[sheardbeard]

Nov 9, 2021 12:35:09 GMT -5 Choco said:

I remember being floored when I was notified of the fact that Thriler has never actually been a #1 hit. It felt like the biggest song ever due to how popular the video is. Conversely, I had never heard the Paul McCartney collaboration that was apparently the best charting hit of that album...

While there was a Paul McCartney collaboration on MJ’s “Thriller” album that peaked at #2 called “The Girl Is Mine”, it wasn’t that album’s best charting hit (“Billie Jean” and ”Beat It” both hit #1). With that said, Paul McCartney and Michael Jackson also had a gigantic hit collaboration on PM‘s “Pipes of Peace” album called “Say Say Say” which hit #1 for six weeks. All of the above happened in 1983.

[Gary]

Nov 9, 2021 11:45:00 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Nov 9, 2021 11:23:40 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

It re-entered at #48. The latter could happen if somehow Halloween even more popular, musically speaking. But perhaps this year was a blip due to things starting to return to normal. We'll have to wait until next year to find out for sure.

2023 or 2024, depending on when they decide to do the 40th anniversary for Thriller could be an opportunity for #1. 2024 really has the potential to be a big Halloween with the holiday falling on a Thursday, and Somebody’s Watching Me and Ghostbusters also celebrating the 40th anniversary that year.

Thriller 40 would be next year



The anniversary celebrations in the past have coincided with the album release not the song

[Gary]

Nov 9, 2021 12:35:09 GMT -5 Choco said:

I remember being floored when I was notified of the fact that Thriler has never actually been a #1 hit. It felt like the biggest song ever due to how popular the video is. Conversely, I had never heard the Paul McCartney collaboration that was apparently the best charting hit of that album...

The 7th single from a year and a half old album never really had a chance at #1.  Most of the public already bought the album by then

[sheardbeard]

Nov 9, 2021 14:06:43 GMT -5 Gary said:

Nov 9, 2021 12:35:09 GMT -5 Choco said:

I remember being floored when I was notified of the fact that Thriler has never actually been a #1 hit. It felt like the biggest song ever due to how popular the video is. Conversely, I had never heard the Paul McCartney collaboration that was apparently the best charting hit of that album...

The 7th single from a year and a half old album never really had a chance at #1.  Most of the public already bought the album by then

It did peak at #4 though, which ain’t half bad for a 7th single from a year and a half old album that most of the public had already bought.

[Gary]

The video took it there. It had a short stay and didn’t go higher because of the album though.


Just trying to explain why it wasn’t an out of the box number one

[phieaglesfan712]

BL didn’t chart again on the Hot 100, but it apparently made it back on the UWC chart:

[KeepDeanWeird]

Nov 9, 2021 14:15:58 GMT -5 Gary said:

The video took it there. It had a short stay and didn’t go higher because of the album though.


Just trying to explain why it wasn’t an out of the box number one

The Thriller video was out 7 weeks before the single was released. Radio certainly had been playing Thriller before it's official release. The video certainly pushed album sales during December 1983. The single dropped end of January 1984.

The single debuted at #20, which was high for that era.

The 45 issued was an edited remix that omitted the Vincent Price rap. I don't know if that version's been released digitally/streaming in US.

If Halloween falls on a Thursday in 2024 - the full tracking week thanks to 24 being a Leap Year. That could be the year it eclipses the #4 peak.

[sheardbeard]

The 45 issued was an edited remix that omitted the Vincent Price rap. I don't know if that version's been released digitally/streaming in US.

My understanding is that the US single edit without Vincent Price’s rap (the commercial 45 version, aka "Remixed Short Version" that runs about 4:07) has only ever been released digitally (on CD) in Japan and the UK.

[JukeboxJacob]

Nov 9, 2021 12:43:55 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Been a while since we’ve had a week with literally one song rising 10 spots or higher

I hope we're not already in the winter freeze, we need some new songs!

[Choco]

Nov 9, 2021 14:06:43 GMT -5 Gary said:

Nov 9, 2021 12:35:09 GMT -5 Choco said:

I remember being floored when I was notified of the fact that Thriler has never actually been a #1 hit. It felt like the biggest song ever due to how popular the video is. Conversely, I had never heard the Paul McCartney collaboration that was apparently the best charting hit of that album...

The 7th single from a year and a half old album never really had a chance at #1.  Most of the public already bought the album by then

Yes I understand the context now but it's a prime example of the charts not telling the whole story. It's impact is still felt today.