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Post by Enigma. on Nov 3, 2021 4:29:19 GMT -5
I think that that comes from the fact their fanbases are very diverse. Post appeals to a wide demographic ranging from soccer moms, through rock and pop listeners, to the hip-hop crowd and even young kids. Abel attracts mainly hip-hop fans (while being a pop-R&B artist), with a sizeable chunk of his audience being pop fans, R&B listeners and slightly older millenials who discovered him early on. Well said! |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 3, 2021 5:18:32 GMT -5
Billboard are the worst. They've ruined everything. First they shut down Talk of the Charts. Now they've swallowed up Rolling Stone Charts along with AlphaData. Chart-watching just got a whole less fun. Ugh. I find it a bit more exciting to have less of an idea of what is going to happen. Takes me back to the 90s and even 00s. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 3, 2021 5:26:44 GMT -5
Isn't the data available pre-chart release now still more than was available when he was a kid and started chart watching? I started chart watching in the days when we literally had no data before the Hot 100 was released. hot 100 predictions altogether are about to go extinct. that's gonna make stans buying #1s from here on very self-dependent. tbh im not fully opposed to it, but it was nice to have a general idea of the chart breakdowns How will we not still have that? We still have a solid idea of how the sales, radio, and streaming metrics will look. It's literally only been the past few years that people have had very specific and accurate predictions. We are now back to where we were for years, and people can still have a general idea of how things will look. |
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Post by kimberly on Nov 3, 2021 5:52:17 GMT -5
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 3, 2021 6:10:42 GMT -5
Mid-Week Releases
Notable Albums:
SUPER JUNIORβ
D&E - COUNTDOWN Lotic - Water Limp Bizkit - STILL SUCKS Notable Singles:
Backxwash - Rosemary's Revenge Radiohead - Follow Me Around Porcupine Tree - Harridan Franz Ferdinand - Billy Goodbye Corbin - Ghost With Skin Lauren Jauregui feat. 6LACK - On Guard Converge and Chelsea Wolfe - Coil Sega Bodega - I Need Nothing from You Foxes - Sky Love RXK Nephew - Make Drunk Cool Again deadmau5 - Hyperlandia Sematary - O HARVEST MOON
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 3, 2021 6:21:34 GMT -5
Aside from Blinding Lights, Monster Mash has held up better than the rest of the Halloween songs on the iTunes chart. MM is still at #21 on the iTunes chart, while Thriller is already below BL on that chart.
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Post by jamatthews83 on Nov 3, 2021 6:25:57 GMT -5
Brenda has also arrived.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 3, 2021 6:33:15 GMT -5
Also, the person that has been doing the early week predictions is still doing them:
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 3, 2021 6:39:01 GMT -5
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 3, 2021 6:59:47 GMT -5
Is The Weeknd aiming at the highest number of singles ever released during one year or what? Weeknd wouldn't even be top 10 or maybe even Top 20 lmao. There've been more artists who've released more singles in one year Olivia being the prime example. |
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Post by korbel16 on Nov 3, 2021 7:04:17 GMT -5
I always think of what the all time list/ literally every billboard record will look like by the end of the decade just by one song that will come back till eternity every Christmas (Mariah)
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Post by kimberly on Nov 3, 2021 7:31:57 GMT -5
Weeknd wouldn't even be top 10 or maybe even Top 20 lmao. There've been more artists who've released more singles in one year Olivia being the prime example. wait how? sheβs literally on the 4th single of her entire career. no collabs either. the weeknd has released 7 singles where heβs billed as a lead artist in the same time window, the post malone collab would be his 8th. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 3, 2021 7:47:46 GMT -5
"AIWFCIY" could debut on the next Hot 100, no? Wow.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 3, 2021 7:56:57 GMT -5
Since we've found ourselves talking about singles, can we all list a year when our favorite artist(s) released/appeared on the most singles? I'll go first:
Drake - 15 singles (2018).
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 3, 2021 8:02:45 GMT -5
US Spotify - 11/02/21
1(=) Adele - Easy On Me 1,292,646 (+46,154)
2(=) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 1,132,165 (+24,086)
3(=) The Kid LAROI - STAY 973,668 (+16,874)
4(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 898,569 (+26,737)
5(=) Drake - Knife Talk 835,644 (+23,279)
6(=) NEIKED - Better Days 806,833 (+13,257)
7(=) Drake - Way 2 Sexy 752,128 (+10,628)
8(=) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 730,905 (+2,005)
9(=) Doja Cat - Need to Know 718,460 (+4,374)
10(+1) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 649,434 (+13,119)
Others:
11(-1) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 644,980 (-526)
12(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 644,242 (+25,543)
13(+1) Baby Keem - family ties 610,807 (+20,196)
14(-2) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 598,364 (-26,992)
15(+3) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 558,668 (+36,949)
16(-1) Doja Cat - Woman 552,046 (+5,835)
17(=) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 534,608 (+7,291)
18(-2) Ed Sheeran - Overpass Graffiti 513,657 (-15,764)
19(+5) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 500,642 (+36,439)
20(+8) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 492,772 (+33,133)
23(-3) Swedish House Mafia - Moth To A Flame 488,386 (-9,201)
24(-2) Nardo Wick - Who Want Smoke?? 484,035 (+8,027)
25(+6) Eslabon Armado, DannyLux - Jugaste y SufrΓ 480,943 (+35,705)
26(-3) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 478,100 (+9,820)
28(+1) Drake - Fair Trade 461,904 (+8,498)
29(+5) Kanye West - Praise God 425,069 (+3,357)
30(-5) Dua Lipa - Levitating 416,646 (-45,939)
32(+5) CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) 411,345 (+13,850)
33(+2) Farruko - Pepas 402,258 (-6,653)
34(+1) LISA - MONEY 401,317 (-4,958)
35(+10) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You 397,266 (+23,909)
36(+13) Playboi Carti - Sky 396,336 (+29,756)
37(+2) MΓ₯neskin - Beggin' 393,292 (+6,110)
38(+2) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 387,994 (+2,543)
39(+9) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 387,873 (+18,240)
40(+13) The Walters - I Love You So 380,964 (+34,826)
41(+2) Coldplay, BTS - My Universe 380,393 (+2,667)
42(+5) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 379,578 (+7,553)
43(+8) Kanye West - Hurricane 377,977 (+15,572)
44(+2) Young Thug - Bubbly 374,866 (+2,270)
45(-1) Oliver Tree - Life Goes On 373,647 (-1,717)
46(+4) Drake - Girls Want Girls 370,379 (+5,182)
48(+7) Surf Curse - Freaks 349,887 (+20,912)
49(+5) Justin Bieber - Ghost 349,737 (+6,302)
54(-12) Lil Uzi Vert - Demon High 334,260 (-43,961)
55(+3) Ivan Cornejo - EstΓ‘ DaΓ±ada 333,987 (+16,925)
57(+11) Benson Boone - GHOST TOWN 329,098 (+34,953)
59(+1) Meek Mill - Sharing Locations 319,384 (+9,290)
60(+4) Yot Club - YKWIM? 318,269 (+20,635)
61(+2) $uicideboy$ - ...And to Those I Love, Thanks for Sticking Around 313,902 (+11,764)
64(-3) Gunna, Future - Too Easy 309,368 (+1,835)
66(+46) Amaarae, Moliy - Sad Girlz Luv Money Remix 296,640 (+55,071)
68(-2) Monsieur PerinΓ©, Vicente Garcia - Nuestra CanciΓ³n 292,284 (-3,378)
71(+5) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever Edit 287,927 (+7,795)
72(+19) Joy Again - Looking Out for You 286,040 (+26,465)
73(-2) Tainy - Lo Siento BB:/ 284,979 (-3,185)
77(+11) Lil Tecca - LOT OF ME 280,048 (+18,014)
78(+4) Siouxxie - masquerade 279,576 (+11,727)
80(+3) BoyWithUke - Toxic 278,096 (+10,329)
81(+19) Beach House - Space Song 276,624 (+24,704)
82(-5) Young Thug - Livin It Up 275,702 (-781)
86(+7) girl in red - we fell in love in october 271,417 (+13,179)
90(+8) Realestk - WFM 269,231 (+16,271)
95(-21) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 264,447 (-18,830)
100(+29) Billie Eilish - Bored 256,349 (+24,517)
106(+3) Jordan Davis, Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt 249,963 (+7,069)
111(-15) Lil Tjay - Not in the Mood 246,190 (-7,544)
116(+1) ChlΓΆe - Have Mercy 241,589 (+2,276)
127(+1) Ed Sheeran - 2step 235,813 (+3,920)
128(-6) Megan Thee Stallion - Eat It 235,789 (+914)
129(+19) The Rare Occasions - Notion 235,483 (+15,598)
134(-15) Ed Sheeran - First Times 233,786 (-3,986)
147(+48) Playboi Carti - Fell in Luv 227,194 (+25,802)
156(=) CKay - love nwantiti remix 222,462 (+6,907)
157(re-entry) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree 222,081
164(-11) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 218,417 (+807)
172(-18) Conan Gray - Telepath 215,178 (-1,436)
174(+11) Tech N9ne, Joey Cool, King Iso, Dwayne Johnson - Face Off 214,915 (+9,740)
175(+16) PinkPantheress - Pain 214,456 (+11,103)
187(+1) Blxst, Tyga - Chosen 209,387 (+4,577)
200(re-entry) Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock 203,735
Total Streams for Happier Than Ever: 846,595
Total Streams for love nwantiti: 633,807
Biggest Gains (50K+): Sad Girlz Luv Money Remix
...GHOST TOWN's gonna be the new Someone You Loved isn't it?
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Post by mylo on Nov 3, 2021 8:41:52 GMT -5
Which maniacs are playing AIWFCIY at the start of November?? I dont touch Christmas music until the 1st.
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Post by Groovy on Nov 3, 2021 8:58:54 GMT -5
The kings of longevity on a collab, watch this go for 60 weeks. |
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 3, 2021 9:48:57 GMT -5
Billboard are the worst. They've ruined everything. First they shut down Talk of the Charts. Now they've swallowed up Rolling Stone Charts along with AlphaData. Chart-watching just got a whole less fun. Ugh. I find it a bit more exciting to have less of an idea of what is going to happen. Takes me back to the 90s and even 00s. I remember when chart predictions would have to be based on weekly movement. So if a song jumped from like 9-3 you'd think "well that's going to number one" not realizing it was probably like 300 points behind the number one song and had no chance ha ha |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 3, 2021 9:55:55 GMT -5
Olivia being the prime example. wait how? sheβs literally on the 4th single of her entire career. no collabs either. the weeknd has released 7 singles where heβs billed as a lead artist in the same time window, the post malone collab would be his 8th. Yeah, I said that when I didnβt remember that the Weeknd had a bunch of features that either came and went, or sat with Doja and continued to quietly exist as a decent hit. I personally donβt think heβs any more over exposed than other big names of the last few years. Just because Blinding Lights broke longevity records and Save Your Tears went on to have an incredibly long chart life, suddenly he needs to go away for a while. Meanwhile, Ariana had two back to back albums, followed by a couple one-off singles and collaborations and a third album in just over a two-year span, with varying levels of success. I think overexposure is a real thing and The Weeknd could very well benefit from a real break, but somehow on Pulse his name as become synonymous with overexposure as if itβs his brand and heβs the only one guilty of it. I donβt really get it. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 3, 2021 10:01:34 GMT -5
As atg pointed out earlier in the thread, itβs weird how Abel has had all these singles out the last 6 months and the only metric theyβve done well on is radio, while the only one that remains strong on all metrics is BL.
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Post by mylo on Nov 3, 2021 10:22:45 GMT -5
After Dawn he'll be gone for a long time though with the show so maybe he's just putting out as much music as possible for fans to enjoy during his time away.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 3, 2021 10:26:18 GMT -5
Slight change of format of the chart title.
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates Β« 2021 Β» / Β« 11 Β» / Β« 03 Β»
1(=) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 112.31(-0.35)
2(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 86.57(-0.40)
3(=) Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 83.98(-0.39)
4(=) Adele - Easy On Me 81.79(+1.40)
5(=) MΓ₯neskin - Beggin 71.84(+0.23)
6(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 70.76(-0.45)
7(=) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 67.77(-0.27)
8(=) Wizkid - Essence (feat. Justin Bieber & Tems) 65.76(-0.31) +
9(+1) Doja Cat - Need To Know 61.25(+1.17)
10(-1) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 61.04(-0.28)
23(+2) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 34.55(+1.43)
26(+1) Dustin Lynch - Thinking 'Bout You (feat. MacKenzie Porter) 32.20(+0.72)
27(+1) Capella Grey - Gyalis 32.08(+0.70)
31(=) Drake - Girls Want Girls f/Lil Baby 30.78(+0.80)
32(+1) Blxst - Chosen f/Ty Dolla $ign & Tyga 30.29(+0.73)
39(+3) Justin Bieber - Ghost 27.39(+0.74)
55(+4) Chloe - Have Mercy 22.13(+0.67)
-(-) CKay - Love Nwantiti (ah ah ah) [feat. Joeboy & Kuami Eugene] [Remix] 11.73(+0.61)
-(-) NEIKED, Mae Muller & Polo G - Better Days 8.72(+1.00)
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Nov 3, 2021 10:53:23 GMT -5
Stay may have finally peaked on radio for good. Fourth straight day of negative updates and weβre heading into the holiday season.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 3, 2021 11:45:00 GMT -5
Fair enough, you don't want the song to overstay its welcome. But look at the margins it has over any other song. The next other song that is rising is Easy On Me, which down at #4 more than 30 million audience impressions lower than Stay and barely rising at present. What song do you propose will overcome those margins in a timely fashion?
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Nov 3, 2021 12:15:27 GMT -5
I find it a bit more exciting to have less of an idea of what is going to happen. Takes me back to the 90s and even 00s. I remember when chart predictions would have to be based on weekly movement. So if a song jumped from like 9-3 you'd think "well that's going to number one" not realizing it was probably like 300 points behind the number one song and had no chance ha ha OR when a song couldnβt drop, except for #1, the week after a bullet. The song held the same position as previous week regardless of itβs βtrueβ position that week - it had to remain stationary. Iβm rare cases a song would move up 1 spot without a bullet, but it was assumed that it actually belonged there. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Nov 3, 2021 12:21:33 GMT -5
oh wow, didn't see when hw resurrected on the radio chart; though i've certainly heard it plenty locally
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Post by kindofbiased on Nov 3, 2021 12:52:49 GMT -5
I feel like AIWFCIY is gonna gain for the next few days because people are excited it's November now, then it'll cool off a bit, then after Thanksgiving it's gonna come back in full force
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 3, 2021 13:19:36 GMT -5
I feel like AIWFCIY is gonna gain for the next few days because people are excited it's November now, then it'll cool off a bit, then after Thanksgiving it's gonna come back in full force yeah didn't this happen last November too lol |
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 3, 2021 13:21:30 GMT -5
Mariah season has begun.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 3, 2021 13:23:36 GMT -5
I feel like AIWFCIY is gonna gain for the next few days because people are excited it's November now, then it'll cool off a bit, then after Thanksgiving it's gonna come back in full force yeah didn't this happen last November too lol Yes, but the point is the song is ahead of where it was at this same point last year (and every other year). Even if it slides back for a bit, it's already doing extremely well. In general we're seeing all of the holidays get bigger each year; or at least seeing that data is catching up to it. I also think in the midst of Covid and such, people just need various holidays as a mental boost. |
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