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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 15, 2021 23:31:56 GMT -5
If people get sick of AIWFCIY (or any other particular holiday song for that matter), the numbers will eventually reflect that and it'll stop hitting #1 every year.
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Post by smiley22 on Dec 16, 2021 3:51:10 GMT -5
I don't think the general public knows if it's #1, how many weeks at #1 it has, etc. I could see Mariah running the risk of overkill, but I think she's definitely embraced "Queen of Christmas." It hasn't hurt her legacy either; she still has a lot of non-holiday songs with great streaming, and even not including "AIWFCIY" she is the most streamed artist of her contemporaries. I think a good portion of the general pop-music consuming public definitely knows it's number one, it was one of the most widely reported #1's I can think of, obviously because of its special significance (on top of most Hot 100 #1's already being widely reported). I see many disagree with me, but I just think if it continues ad infinitum for like 10-20 more years or something, the achievement will get stale, and there will be this eyeroll-type reaction with the headlines being like "Yes, Mariah is #1 yet again this Christmas!!" And yes, I know right now she has no problem being the queen of Christmas and obviously she has fully embraced it, but I think decades from now and especially after she dies, I don't think that's what she would want to be mainly remembered for. She literally has 18 other #1 singles alone and practically a dozen other multi-platinum albums. No offense, but most people are not worried how chart freaks will be reacting 20 years from now.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2021 7:47:29 GMT -5
And yes, I know right now she has no problem being the queen of Christmas and obviously she has fully embraced it, but I think decades from now and especially after she dies, I don't think that's what she would want to be mainly remembered for. She literally has 18 other #1 singles alone and practically a dozen other multi-platinum albums. 1. This doesn't stop her other songs from being remembered; "Fantasy" was used in Free Guy this year, and "Always Be My Baby" has been used in several things over the past couple of years. More than that, her general streaming (i.e. taking out "AIWFCIY") is better than that of her contemporaries. 2. It's rare for artists to be remembered in any way decades later. How many artists from the 30s and 40s have a lot of songs remembered? Bing Crosby and Nat King Cole's association with Christmas is a large part of (though not entirely) what keeps them remembered more than their contemporaries as opposed to holding them back. It will be the same for Mariah. Her current presence is already well above her peers, and the gap will only widen as time goes on.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 16, 2021 8:16:11 GMT -5
Mid-Week Releases
Notable Singles:
Nathy Peluso - VIVIR ASÍ ES MORIR DE AMOR RZA & Flatbush Zombies Plug Addicts Big Thief - No Reason / Spud Infinity Jhené Aiko - Wrap Me Up 安斉かれん [Kalen Anzai] - 現実カメラ [Reality camera] Big Time Rush - Call It Like I See It SUPER JUNIOR-D&E - Need U Underøath - Numb Shabazz Palaces - 20 Gear Science Alex G - Dream Now John Mellencamp - Chasing Rainbows Freddie Gibbs - Pick The Phone Up and Miami Vice Notable Albums:
NCT - Universe The Wiggles =- ReWiggled (EP) TWICE - Doughnut (EP) COUCOU CHLOE - ONE (ep)
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 16, 2021 9:16:30 GMT -5
If only the success of that Xmas song made people invest more in Mariah's discography cause she has some amazing albums & songs.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 16, 2021 10:44:57 GMT -5
US Spotify - 12/15/21
1(=) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree 1,174,245 (+80,193) 2(=) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You 1,070,721 (+52,554) 3(=) Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock 1,060,028 (+67,311) 4(=) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 919,204 (+66) 5(+2) Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 918,808 (+57,800) 6(-1) SZA - I Hate U 869,622 (-25,552) 7(-1) GAYLE - abcdefu 865,193 (-16,402) 8(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 842,163 (-5,091) 9(=) Adele - Easy On Me 825,558 (-10,891) 10(=) The Kid LAROI - STAY 820,501 (+6,423)
Juice WRLD - Fighting Demons 21(-8) Burn 668,922 (-80,198) 27(-8) Already Dead 614,760 (-51,084) 28(-7) Wandered To LA 592,808 (-55,580) 34(-6) Rockstar in His Prime 540,236 (-64,986) 40(-7) Feline 506,530 (-62,050) 41(-7) Girl of My Dreams 497,178 (-49,951) 67(-18) You Wouldn't Understand 410,157 (-60,902) 82(-24) Doom 381,910 (-60,077) 84(-25) Not Enough 378,628 (-57,067) 98(-28) Go Hard 351,861 (-57,064) Total Streams: 6,072,935 (-14%)
Others: 12(=) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 781,155 (+3,845) 15(+2) Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 710,080 (-16,538) 16(+2) Drake - Knife Talk 699,451 (-783) 25(+1) Doja Cat - Need to Know 632,700 (-1,601) 26(+1) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 621,131 (-6,319) 29(+2) Baby Keem - family ties 578,378 (-130) 30(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window 572,179 (-9,662) 35(+1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 525,868 (-4,176) 38(=) Doja Cat - Woman 513,054 (+542) 43(-4) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 493,513 (-10,575) 44(+2) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 489,229 (+7,698) 48(-4) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 481,269 (-4,262) 49(-6) The Walters - I Love You So 479,847 (-9,164) 52(-2) NEIKED - Better Days 468,026 (-2,466) 53(=) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 465,775 (-107) 54(=) Playboi Carti - Sky 458,748 (+2,541) 60(-3) Rod Wave - By Your Side 433,466 (-8,848) 63(=) Post Malone - One Right Now 423,154 (+281) 66(=) Nardo Wick - Who Want Smoke?? 415,783 (-162) 70(-2) Adele - Oh My God 403,615 (-6,429) 73(+2) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 397,449 (+1,430) 80(-9) A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - Man in the Mirror 383,272 (-24,932) 81(-12) Vundabar - Alien Blues 382,808 (-26,337) 85(-4) Polo G - Bad Man (Smooth Criminal) 376,855 (-7,124) 93(-5) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 362,627 (-490)
102(-4) SALES - Pope Is a Rockstar 341,654 (-7,339) 103(-1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 338,047 (+2,039) 113(-6) Emmy Meli - I AM WOMAN 321,940 (-2,734) 119(-6) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 308,117 (-6,987) 123(-5) Beach House - Space Song 303,420 (-3,467) 125(-5) BoyWithUke - Toxic 301,631 (-1,646) 128(-4) ACRAZE, Cherish - Do It to It 298,861 (-243) 131(-1) CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) 291,421 (-1,888) 134(-5) The Rare Occasions - Notion 290,044 (-4,,121) 137(-3) Amaarae - SAD GIRLZ LUV MONEY Remix 287,321 (-1,930) 146(-5) Jaymes Young - Infinity 275,286 (-1,836) 152(+2) Summer Walker - No Love 267,685 (+342) 154(-4) Joy Again - Looking Out for You 267,428 (-2,155) 156(-1) $uicideboy$ - ...And to Those I Love, Thanks for Sticking Around 266,158 (-473) 158(+3) Jordan Davis, Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt 265,593 (+3,157) 172(-24) Rainbow Kitten Surprise - It's Called: Freefall 260,541 (-11,672)
Biggest Gains (50K+): It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year, Jingle Bell Rock [Bobby Helms], All I Want for Christmas Is You, Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 16, 2021 10:50:30 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2021 » / « 12 » / « 16 »
1(=) Adele - Easy On Me 104.45(+2.12) 2(=) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 95.62(-0.91) - 3(=) Doja Cat - Need To Know 74.09(+0.08) 4(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 72.92(+0.64) 5(=) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 68.36(+0.06) 6(=) Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 67.51(-0.73) 7(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 59.33(-0.27) 8(=) Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 53.77(+0.57) 9(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window 52.93(+0.63) 10(=) Wizkid - Essence f/Tems 48.27(-0.20)
25(+2) Ckay - Love Nwantiti (Ah Ah Ah) 35.19(+0.72) 30(+1) Adele - Oh My God 31.52(+0.74)
38(+4) Latto - Big Energy 26.88(+0.66)
76(+9) GAYLE - abcdefu 13.91(+1.18) -(-) Mary J. Blige - Good Morning Gorgeous 6.16(+0.62)
-(-) Rick Ross - Outlawz f/21 Savage/J Sullivan 4.13(+0.89)
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 16, 2021 11:03:24 GMT -5
Christmas Songs Outside the Top 10 11(+3) Burl Ives - A Holly Jolly Christmas 800,643 (+58,234) 13(+2) Wham! - Last Christmas 777,268 (+37,518) 14(+2) Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas 777,237 (+42,086) 17(+3) José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad 689,712 (+35,640) 18(+5) Nat King Cole - The Christmas Song 682,047 (+43,067) 19(+5) The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride 674,801 (+37,046) 20(+2) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me 673,237 (+33,637) 22(-11) Bing Crosby, Ken Darby Singers, John Scott Trotter & His Orchestra - White Christmas 666,909 (-142,473) 23(+6) Frank Sinatra - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 636,607 (+35,489) 31(+4) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree 567,668 (+28,050) 33(+4) Perry Como, The Fontane Sisters - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas 562,181 (+33,228) 36(+6) Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 518,558 (+28,078) 37(+4) Justin Bieber - Mistletoe 517,446 (+23,790) 39(+1) Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime 508,460 (+6,168) 42(+9) Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas 495,197 (+25,254) 45(+7) Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 486,974 (+17,465) 47(+8) Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run 483,331 (+34,954) 55(+5) Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas 458,434 (+26,576) 56(+6) Sia - Snowman 449,123 (+22,930) 57(-1) John Lennon, Yoko Ono - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) 445,065 (+1,135) 58(+7) The Jackson 5 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town 444,516 (+24,846) 61(+11) Eartha Kitt, Henri Rene & His Orchestra - Santa Baby 426,548 (+18,906) 62(+14) Frank Sinatra - Jingle Bells 424,216 (+28,312) 65(+15) Mykola Dmytrovych Leontovych, John Williams - Carol of the Bells 418,344 (+31,137) 74(+8) Vince Guaraldi Trio - Christmas Time Is Here Vocal 393,639 (+18,860) 76(+13) The Beach Boys - Little Saint Nick 390,485 (+28,397) 78(+5) Mariah Carey - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 386,466 (+12,390) 79(+5) Dean Martin - Baby, It's Cold Outside 385,904 (+18,668) 83(+8) Bruce Springsteen - Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town (Live) 380,885 (+22,262) 86(+10) Bing Crosby, The Andrews Sisters - Mele Kalikimaka 376,107 (+26,544) 88(+6) Andy Williams - Happy Holiday / The Holiday Season 372,051 (+20,001) 90(re-entry) Elton John - Step Into Christmas 368,157 91(+4) Nat King Cole - Joy To The World 366,914 (+15,694) 92(+9) Vince Guaraldi Trio - O Tannenbaum 366,870 (+25,123) 99(+6) Judy Garland - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 349,885 (+18,204)
104(+7) Burl Ives - Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 334,744 (+18,286) 106(+11) Perry Como - (There's No Place Like) Home for the Holidays 333,201 (+25,174) 108(+4) The Jackson 5 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 329,364 (+14,236) 111(+4) Bing Crosby - Do You Hear What I Hear? 323,808 (+14,170) 114(+5) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas 318,409 (+12,302) 117(+11) Gene Autry - Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane) 311,412 (+16,756) 121(+16) Frank Sinatra - Mistletoe And Holly 307,361 (+20,311) 122(+18) Donny Hathaway - This Christmas 306,191 (+25,373) 124(+14) Eagles - Please Come Home for Christmas 301,940 (+18,017) 142(+29) Thurl Ravenscroft - You're A Mean One, Mr. Grinch 277,275 (+19,542) 160(+17) Ella Fitzgerald - Sleigh Ride 264,084 (+11,582) 165(+17) *NSYNC - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays 262,155 (+12,936) 167(+27) Stevie Wonder - What Christmas Means To Me 262,009 (+18,727) 170(+6) Gwen Stefani - You Make It Feel Like Christmas 261,236 (+8,365) 180(re-entry) Carpenters - Merry Christmas Darling 256,401 186(+14) Daryl Hall & John Oates - Jingle Bell Rock 247,974 (+10,149) 189(+1) Pentatonix - Mary, Did You Know? 247,476 (+3,519) 190(re-entry) Amy Grant - White Christmas 246,134 191(re-entry) Sam Smith - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 245,901 200(re-entry) Bing Crosby, Carol Richards - Silver Bells 240,683
Biggest Gains (50K+): A Holly Jolly Christmas [Burl Ives]
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2021 11:05:05 GMT -5
If only the success of that Xmas song made people invest more in Mariah's discography cause she has some amazing albums & songs. Huh? Mariah has 10 non-holiday songs with over 100 million Spotify streams. That's more than Madonna, Whitney, and Celine have. Mariah also has 14 non-holiday videos with over 100 million views on YouTube, which is also more than her contemporaries. Her discography is doing great.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2021 11:11:51 GMT -5
90 re-entryElton John - Step Into Christmas  Lol I see the Spotify buffoonery is still happening.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 16, 2021 11:24:42 GMT -5
[/font]) Elton John - Step Into Christmas [/quote] Lol I see the Spotify buffoonery is still happening.[/quote] If this means Elton getting a 4th entry in the last 6 months, I’m all for it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2021 11:26:42 GMT -5
Elton John - Step Into Christmas Lol I see the Spotify buffoonery is still happening. If this means Elton getting a 4th entry in the last 6 months, I’m all for it. To this point it has been to his detriment. Look at how high the re-entry is; obviously Spotify had his song messed up yesterday. Having said that, Billboard seems to be able to account for these Spotify errors, so I don't think it's affecting his song on Billboard charts.
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 16, 2021 11:41:33 GMT -5
If only the success of that Xmas song made people invest more in Mariah's discography cause she has some amazing albums & songs. Huh? Mariah has 10 non-holiday songs with over 100 million Spotify streams. That's more than Madonna, Whitney, and Celine have. Mariah also has 14 non-holiday videos with over 100 million views on YouTube, which is also more than her contemporaries. Her discography is doing great. Why are you so defensive? Nobody is saying she's doing poorly, just said she deserved better cause she has an amazing discography. And no need to compare her to other women because each women has their own strengths. Some people try to discredit Mariah's legacy to be just a Christmas Queen, she is much more than that.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2021 12:32:18 GMT -5
Huh? Mariah has 10 non-holiday songs with over 100 million Spotify streams. That's more than Madonna, Whitney, and Celine have. Mariah also has 14 non-holiday videos with over 100 million views on YouTube, which is also more than her contemporaries. Her discography is doing great. Why are you so defensive? Nobody is saying she's doing poorly, just said she deserved better cause she has an amazing discography. And no need to compare her to other women because each women has their own strengths. Some people try to discredit Mariah's legacy to be just a Christmas Queen, she is much more than that. You had clear shade with the "If only..." part, so I responded with some facts.
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 16, 2021 12:33:57 GMT -5
Why are you so defensive? Nobody is saying she's doing poorly, just said she deserved better cause she has an amazing discography. And no need to compare her to other women because each women has their own strengths. Some people try to discredit Mariah's legacy to be just a Christmas Queen, she is much more than that. You had clear shade with the "If only..." part, so I responded with some facts. That wasn't my intention as English isn't my first language, there might be misunderstandings. If i want to shade someone, i would shade them openly.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2021 12:35:53 GMT -5
You had clear shade with the "If only..." part, so I responded with some facts. That wasn't my intention as English isn't my first language, there might be misunderstandings. If i want to shade someone, i would shade them openly. Ok, thank you for the clarification. I take back my interpretation, then.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 16, 2021 14:28:43 GMT -5
Interesting that, after days of small gains, "Easy on Me" gained 2m+ in airplay.
These couple of Hot 100 predictions are not from the "usual suspects," it looks? (for instance, Talk of the Charts, another I can't recall the name of, etc.) I saw the one set to a video on YouTube, which looks to be from where the above came.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 16, 2021 14:39:56 GMT -5
Interesting that, after days of small gains, "Easy on Me" gained 2m+ in airplay. These couple of Hot 100 predictions are not from the "usual suspects," it looks? (for instance, Talk of the Charts, another I can't recall the name of, etc.) I saw the one set to a video on YouTube, which looks to be from where the above came. That account usually puts an early prediction on Tuesday or Wednesday (they didn’t do one last week and were a little bit later this week). otavio posted an early prediction on here Monday.
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Post by Groovy on Dec 16, 2021 15:14:21 GMT -5
I cannot imagine Lil Durk doing a country song or Morgan Wallen doing a rap song.
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Post by gikem on Dec 16, 2021 15:24:21 GMT -5
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 16, 2021 15:41:34 GMT -5
The only thing I'm surprised about is that DaBaby wasn't the rapper who collaborated with Morgan Wallen.
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Post by nathanalbright on Dec 16, 2021 16:01:51 GMT -5
Morgan Wallen's leadoff single from his next era incoming. I'm guessing race is going to be a subject of the song. Maybe they'll do it Nelly/Tim McGraw style.
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Post by Envoirment on Dec 16, 2021 17:50:05 GMT -5
Didn't realise Adele's "Oh My God" has racked up some decent AI already. I can't wait to see it shoot back up the Hot 100 post Christmas.
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Dec 16, 2021 18:15:37 GMT -5
Why is Morgan Wallen still relevant? I'm usually against cancel culture, but in his case, what he did should've ended his career.
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Post by Choco on Dec 16, 2021 18:25:04 GMT -5
Why is Morgan Wallen still relevant? I'm usually against cancel culture, but in his case, what he did should've ended his career. People like the music. The album is still top 10 and the biggest of the year stateside. (Some acts have done far worse and still keep getting hits. There's no correlation between being a decent person and having success. And cancellations aren't permanent it seems).
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 16, 2021 18:40:48 GMT -5
Didn't realise Adele's "Oh My God" has racked up some decent AI already. I can't wait to see it shoot back up the Hot 100 post Christmas. I get the feeling that Oh My God is going to burn out/get dropped quickly on radio. What’s going to hurt OMG is its lackluster streaming numbers, as well as EOM being way too strong.
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Dec 16, 2021 18:49:52 GMT -5
Oh My God's successful chart run confirmed
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Post by Choco on Dec 16, 2021 18:56:04 GMT -5
I won't even bother reading whatever that blocked user said, but at this point what's needed for a successful chart run? 20 weeks on the chart? The #5 is already Adele's sixth best showing on the chart after her five #1 hits. I'd be more worried for a third single because everyone will have the album by then.
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