Billboard Hot 100: 12/25/2021

[Joe1240]

Dec 17, 2021 20:35:25 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks:

The song did fine for a rerecording of a 9 Year Old song,You can't expect every Taylor song to be like "Shake It Off" or "Blank Space" on the charts in 2021/2022. Taylor is way past the days where she needs to depend on radio airplay on their own and the song is still top 50 on Spotify which is better than "Willow" and "Cardigan" have done. I call it a success no matter what the result is.

[gikem]

Let’s wait to see where ATW lands post-holidays before we completely write it off. Still top 10 on US Spotify if you exclude the holiday music.

[85la]

It's a unique situation with the song. We can't treat it as a current radio single because it's not, yet not entirely a nine year old random album track. Of course it already developed the status of a fan favorite, and when she saw it was doing the best out of all the songs on Red (TV) the moment it was released, especially with the new 10 minute version, they did give it a pretty big push with extra versions/remixes and the extended video, but just no radio push, leaving a lot of room for debate as to whether it's actually a "single" or not. But because of this gray area, the fact that it did hit #1 and was completely unexpected, I'd say it's a success.

[Angel]

Dec 17, 2021 20:35:25 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks:

If you'd take a long look around maybe you'd realise you're possibly the only one here rooting for the downfall of a decade old fan favourite. Its run so far is a testament to a kind of love and longevity that the vast, vast majority of truly huge chart juggernauts like Shape Of You or Despacito or Old Town Road, will never achieve. The love for this song is undeniable and it isn't going anywhere in the hearts of the people who, like me, have loved this song for a decade. You just look sad. Go outside. Touch some grass. Have a peppermint mocha. Listen to ** or something and take a deep breath and relax.  

[jayhawk1117]

Dec 17, 2021 20:35:25 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks:

do you like get aroused by the thought of this song falling off the charts? That can be the only explanation at this point for the obsession.

[lazer]

That is the same person who was rooting for Fancy Like to hit #1.

[kimberly]

Dec 18, 2021 0:44:59 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Dec 17, 2021 20:35:25 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks:

do you like get aroused by the thought of this song falling off the charts? That can be the only explanation at this point for the obsession.

damn I never even considered that they might have a humiliation kink of some sort. 

one day, we'll all learn to just ignore their blabbering. as we all know, this time last year Swift's own "willow" took a historic 1-38 fall on the Hot 100, but it turned out to be a longer lasting Hot 100 hit than "cardigan" in the end. the common denominator is the Christmas songs flooding the chart right now, of course, but that poster has been proven to lack the capacity to think before commenting here on several occasions. 

their comment is as unsubstantiated as saying "oh look, 'Santa Tell Me' is rising really fast this week, it might be the next No. 1!" 🙄

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 12/16/21

1(=) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree 1,223,350 (+49,105)
2(=) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You 1,109,633 (+38,912)
3(=) Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock 1,109,045 (+49,017)
4(+1) Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 960,689 (+41,881)
5(-1) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 920,535 (+1,331)
6(+16) Bing Crosby, Ken Darby Singers, John Scott Trotter & His Orchestra - White Christmas 889,132 (+220,196)
7(=) GAYLE - abcdefu 871,961 (+6,768)
8(-2) SZA - I Hate U 868,928 (-694)
9(-1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 847,243 (+5,080)
10(+1) Burl Ives - A Holly Jolly Christmas 834,920 (+34,277)

Juice WRLD - Fighting Demons
26(-5) Burn 617,802 (-51,120)
31(-4) Already Dead 573,586 (-41,174)
33(-5) Wandered To LA 558,060 (-34,748)
42(-8) Rockstar in His Prime 499,596 (-40,640)
51(-11) Feline 470,428 (-36,102)
53(-12) Girl of My Dreams 465,814 (-31,364)
89(-22) You Wouldn't Understand 367,243 (-42,914)
Total Streams: 5,103,340 (-15%)

Others:
11(-1) The Kid LAROI - STAY 825,251 (+4,750)
12(-3) Adele - Easy On Me 821,113 (-694)
13(-1) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 820,750 (+39,595)
17(-1) Drake - Knife Talk 713,816 (+14,365)
20(-5) Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 700,845 (-9,235)
23(+2) Doja Cat - Need to Know 640,350 (+7,650)
25(+1) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 630,714 (+9,583)
29(=) Baby Keem - family ties 585,955 (+7,577)
30(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window 581,169 (+8,990)
36(-1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 522,447 (-3,421)
37(+1) Doja Cat - Woman 521,030 (+7,976)
41(+3) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 500,483 (+11,254)
43(=) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 491,102 (-2,411)
45(+3) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 484,783 (+3,514)
47(+2) The Walters - I Love You So 475,736 (-4,111)
49(+4) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 470,929 (+5,154)
52(=) NEIKED - Better Days 469,155 (+1,129)
54(=) Playboi Carti - Sky 464,170 (+5,422)
62(+1) Post Malone - One Right Now 431,788 (+8,634)
63(-3) Rod Wave - By Your Side 428,754 (-4,712)
65(+1) Nardo Wick - Who Want Smoke?? 418,197 (+2,414)
73(-3) Adele - Oh My God 400,824 (-2,791)
75(-2) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 399,192 (+1,743)
84(+1) Polo G - Bad Man (Smooth Criminal) 375,669 (-1,186)
85(-5) A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - Man in the Mirror 372,042 (-11,230)
88(-7) Vundabar - Alien Blues 371,400 (-11,408)
90(+3) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 365,528 (+2,901)

101(+1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 342,308 (+4,261)
110(-8) SALES - Pope Is a Rockstar 324,597 (-11,408)
114(-1) Emmy Meli - I AM WOMAN 321,741 (-199)
121(+7) ACRAZE, Cherish - Do It to It 303,952 (+5,091)
124(-1) Beach House - Space Song 299,233 (-4,187)
126(-7) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 298,454 (-9,663)
127(-2) BoyWithUke - Toxic 298,110 (-3,521)
130(+1) CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) 294,234 (+2,813)
135(+2) Amaarae - SAD GIRLZ LUV MONEY Remix 289,426 (+2,105)
137(-3) The Rare Occasions - Notion 285,501 (-4,543)
144(+2) Jaymes Young - Infinity 276,537 (+1,251)
154(-2) Summer Walker - No Love 271,672 (+3,987)
158(=) Jordan Davis, Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt 268,409 (+2,816)
166(-12) Joy Again - Looking Out for You 262,991 (-4,437)
174(-18) $uicideboy$ - ...And to Those I Love, Thanks for Sticking Around 260,317 (-5,841)
175(-3) Rainbow Kitten Surprise - It's Called: Freefall 260,174 (-367)

Biggest Gains (50K+): White Christmas

Top 10 Without Christmas Songs:
1. INDUSTRY BABY
2. abcdefu
3. I Hate U
4. Heat Waves
5. STAY
7. Easy On Me
8. Super Gremlin
9. Knife Talk
10. All Too Well (10 Minute Version)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Christmas Songs Outside the Top 10
14(-1) Wham! - Last Christmas 810,134 (+32,866)
15(-1) Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas 804,173 (+26,936)
16(+1) José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad 728,282 (+38,570)
18(=) Nat King Cole - The Christmas Song 709,939 (+27,892)
19(=) The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride 706,544 (+31,743)
21(-1) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me 697,475 (+24,238)
22(+1) Frank Sinatra - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 668,936 (+32,329)
27(+6) Perry Como, The Fontane Sisters - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas 593,253 (+31,072)
28(+3) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree 591,301 (+23,633)
34(+3) Justin Bieber - Mistletoe 542,118 (+24,672)
35(+1) Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 540,900 (+22,342)
38(+4) Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas 518,967 (+23,770)
39(+8) Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run 507,196 (+23,865)
40(+5) Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 503,239 (+16,265)
46(+9) Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas 483,798 (+25,364)
50(+8) The Jackson 5 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town 470,821 (+26,305)
55(+1) Sia - Snowman 463,335 (+14,212)
57(+4) Eartha Kitt, Henri Rene & His Orchestra - Santa Baby 453,401 (+26,853)
58(+4) Frank Sinatra - Jingle Bells 447,133 (+22,917)
59(-20) Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime 445,568 (-62,892)
60(+5) Mykola Dmytrovych Leontovych, John Williams - Carol of the Bells 433,754 (+15,410)
67(+7) Vince Guaraldi Trio - Christmas Time Is Here Vocal 411,799 (+18,160)
69(+7) The Beach Boys - Little Saint Nick 407,835 (+17,350)
71(+7) Mariah Carey - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 404,440 (+17,974)
72(+7) Dean Martin - Baby, It's Cold Outside 403,847 (+17,943)
74(+9) Bruce Springsteen - Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town (Live) 400,477 (+19,592)
77(+9) Bing Crosby, The Andrews Sisters - Mele Kalikimaka 392,357 (+16,250)
79(+9) Andy Williams - Happy Holiday / The Holiday Season 389,030 (+16,979)
81(+11) Vince Guaraldi Trio - O Tannenbaum 384,489 (+17,619)
82(+9) Nat King Cole - Joy To The World 376,177 (+9,263)
86(-29) John Lennon, Yoko Ono - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) 371,744 (-73,321)
91(+8) Judy Garland - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 363,396 (+13,511)
98(+8) Perry Como - (There's No Place Like) Home for the Holidays 351,041 (+17,840)
99(+9) The Jackson 5 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 350,972 (+21,608)
100(+4) Burl Ives - Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 347,392 (+12,648)

104(+7) Bing Crosby - Do You Hear What I Hear? 340,085 (+16,277)
106(+8) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas 331,756 (+13,347)
109(+13) Donny Hathaway - This Christmas 324,831 (+18,640)
111(+6) Gene Autry - Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane) 324,501 (+13,089)
112(+9) Frank Sinatra - Mistletoe And Holly 323,469 (+16,108)
115(+9) Eagles - Please Come Home for Christmas 319,049 (+17,109)
132(+48) Carpenters - Merry Christmas Darling 292,967 (+36,566)
133(+9) Thurl Ravenscroft - You're A Mean One, Mr. Grinch 292,530 (+15,255)
142(+23) *NSYNC - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays 278,780 (+16,625)
146(+14) Ella Fitzgerald - Sleigh Ride 276,134 (+12,050)
148(re-entry) Dean Martin - Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 274,516
151(+16) Stevie Wonder - What Christmas Means To Me 273,200 (+11,191)
157(+13) Gwen Stefani - You Make It Feel Like Christmas 269,528 (+8,292)
170(+16) Daryl Hall & John Oates - Jingle Bell Rock 261,524 (+13,550)
172(re-entry) Jonas Brothers - Like It's Christmas 261,088
182(+9) Sam Smith - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 256,396 (+10,495)
184(+5) Pentatonix - Mary, Did You Know? 255,815 (+8,339)
189(-99) Elton John - Step Into Christmas 249,359 (-118,798)
190(+10) Bing Crosby, Carol Richards - Silver Bells 248,021 (+7,338)
191(re-entry) Louis Armstrong, The Commanders - Cool Yule 246,098
196(re-entry) Kay Starr - The Man with the Bag 241,668
197(re-entry) Ariana Grande - Last Christmas 241,665

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - Week 12/16/21

1(+1) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree 8,434,362
2(+3) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You 7,859,265
3(+1) Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock 7,671,189
4(+6) Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 6,654,467
5(-2) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 6,605,205
6(debut) Juice WRLD - Burn 6,432,737
7(-6) SZA - I Hate U 6,349,621
8(+3) Bing Crosby, Ken Darby Singers, John Scott Trotter & His Orchestra - White Christmas 6,212,187
9(=) GAYLE - abcdefu 6,134,212
10(-3) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 5,986,746

Juice WRLD - Fighting Demons
16(+64) Juice WRLD - Already Dead 5,538,235
17(-4) Wandered To LA 5,493,253
18(debut) Feline 5,136,233
22(debut) Rockstar in His Prime 5,033,578
29(debut) Girl of My Dreams 4,647,726
32(debut) You Wouldn't Understand 4,249,879
38(debut) Doom 3,941,416
39(debut) Not Enough 3,835,701
41(debut) Go Hard 3,753,448
61(debut) From My Window 3,147,928
67(debut) Relocate 3,039,532
84(debut) Feel Alone 2,754,465
89(debut) Until The Plug Comes Back Around 2,709,001
115(debut) My Life In A Nutshell 2,270,213
Total Streams: 67,384,618

11(-3) The Kid LAROI - STAY 5,898,226
12(-6) Adele - Easy On Me 5,874,914
19(+11) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 5,119,055
20(-8) Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 5,073,419
25(-9) Drake - Knife Talk 4,850,754
30(-13) Doja Cat - Need to Know 4,518,160
31(-4) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 4,375,117
33(-13) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window 4,131,403
37(-11) Baby Keem - family ties 3,973,544
44(-13) Doja Cat - Woman 3,673,561
45(-12) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 3,601,628
51(-15) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 3,393,906
52(-15) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 3,381,745
53(-15) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 3,369,758
54(-13) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 3,366,386
56(-21) NEIKED - Better Days 3,309,848
59(-8) The Walters - I Love You So 3,227,282
62(-13) Playboi Carti - Sky 3,131,546
70(-15) Post Malone - One Right Now 2,973,260
72(debut) A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - Man in the Mirror 2,882,188
73(-30) Adele - Oh My God 2,858,912
75(+10) Rod Wave - By Your Side 2,837,320
77(-19) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 2,831,079
80(-20) Nardo Wick - Who Want Smoke?? 2,804,889
91(-19) Vundabar - Alien Blues 2,706,282
92(-43) Polo G - Bad Man (Smooth Criminal) 2,694,720
99(-22) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 2,548,394

112(-20) Justin Bieber - Ghost 2,305,423
119(-22) Emmy Meli - I AM WOMAN 2,243,048
121(-14) BoyWithUke - Toxic 2,185,456
123(debut) SALES - Pope Is a Rockstar 2,174,002
125(-1) ACRAZE, Cherish - Do It To It 2,151,881
129(-17) CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) 2,114,020
134(-1) Beach House - Space Song 2,045,316
137(-16) The Rare Occasions - Notion 2,015,034
154(+13) Jaymes Young - Infinity 1,880,578
157(-9) Summer Walker - No Love 1,863,816
161(-9) Joy Again - Looking Out for You 1,849,497
173(-33) $uicideboy$ - ...And to Those I Love, Thanks for Sticking Around 1,814,332
187(debut) Sadie Jean - WYD Now? 1,759,560

Christmas Songs:
13(+5) Burl Ives - A Holly Jolly Christmas 5,685,377
14(+5) Wham! - Last Christmas 5,602,069
15(=) Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot like Christmas 5,586,612
21(+2) José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad 5,054,154
23(+1) The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride 4,901,249
24(-2) Nat King Cole - The Christmas Song 4,881,152
26(+2) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me 4,821,259
27(-2) Frank Sinatra - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 4,661,983
34(-2) Perry Como, The Fontane Sisters - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas 4,109,141
36(+6) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree 4,072,896
40(+6) Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 3,753,883
42(+10) Justin Bieber - Mistletoe 3,746,837
43(+4) Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime 3,694,899
46(+4) Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas 3,555,692
47(+14) Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 3,540,246
49(+5) Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run 3,430,900
55(-2) Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas 3,323,826
58(+6) John Lennon, Yoko Ono - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) 3,247,438
60(+3) The Jackson 5 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town 3,223,296
63(-1) Eartha Kitt, Henri Rene & His Orchestra - Santa Baby 3,122,866
65(+52) Sia - Snowman 3,062,078
68(+1) Mykola Dmytrovych Leontovych, John Williams - Carol of the Bells 3,016,197
71(+3) Vince Guaraldi Trio - Christmas Time Is Here Vocal 2,887,718
78(+12) Mariah Carey - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 2,824,442
79(+7) The Beach Boys - Little Saint Nick 2,809,285
81(+7) Dean Martin - Baby, It's Cold Outside 2,802,259
82(+9) Bruce Springsteen - Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town - Live 2,785,884
86(-2) Bing Crosby, The Andrews Sisters - Mele Kalikimaka 2,734,194
88(-7) Andy Williams - Happy Holiday / The Holiday Season 2,711,413
90(re-entry) Frank Sinatra - Jingle Bells 2,707,899
95(-2) Vince Guaraldi Trio - O Tannenbaum 2,634,192
96(+3) Nat King Cole - Joy To The World 2,612,216
98(-9) Judy Garland - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 2,554,550

101(-34) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas? 2,496,854
105(-1) Burl Ives - Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 2,401,681
106(+9) The Jackson 5 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 2,395,528
107(-1) Perry Como - (There's No Place Like) Home for the Holidays 2,386,377
110(+27) Bing Crosby - Do You Hear What I Hear? 2,352,108
113(+7) Gene Autry - Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane) 2,291,410
122(+13) Frank Sinatra - Mistletoe And Holly 2,183,960
124(+18) Donna Hathaway - This Christmas 2,156,088
128(+16) Eagles - Please Come Home for Christmas 2,138,975
136(+29) Thurl Ravenscroft - You're A Mean One, Mr. Grinch 2,025,485
149(+46) Dean Martin - Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 1,915,482
157(re-entry) Ella Fitzgerald - Sleigh Ride 1,861,737
160(re-entry) *NSYNC - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays 1,852,928
170(re-entry) Gwen Stefani - You Make It Feel Like Christmas 1,822,258
172(re-entry) Stevie Wonder - What Christmas Means To Me 1,816,360
182(re-entry) Carpenters - Merry Christmas Darling 1,790,410
183(re-entry) Daryl Hall & John Oates - Jingle Bell Rock 1,778,730
186(+7) Bing Crosby, Carol Richards - Silver Bells 1,672,731 
189(re-entry) Sam Smith - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 1,746,423
193(re-entry) Pentatonix - Mary, Did You Know? 1,727,896
194(re-entry) Louis Armstrong, The Commanders - Cool Yule 1,724,118
195(re-entry) Jonas Brothers - Like It's Christmas 1,720,443

[joshtheking]

Dec 18, 2021 2:24:38 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

59(-20) Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime 445,568 (-62,892)
86(-29) John Lennon, Yoko Ono - Happy Xmas (War Is Over) 371,744 (-73,321)
189(-99) Elton John - Step Into Christmas 249,359 (-118,798)

More victims of this glitching mess ?

[JukeboxJacob]

ATW's situation is truly novel and unlike any in the Hot 100's history.

In this ever-evolving streaming era, where a song of any age can essentially be new to the GP, I think ATW might be foreshadowing of a future where a song doesn't have to be new to be a hit.

[Deleted]

Dec 17, 2021 20:35:25 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks:

Does anyone know what's the longest song to chart without significant airplay? Like ATW?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Dec 18, 2021 5:31:49 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

ATW's situation is truly novel and unlike any in the Hot 100's history.

In this ever-evolving streaming era, where a song of any age can essentially be new to the GP, I think ATW might be foreshadowing of a future where a song doesn't have to be new to be a hit.

I don't think it's just that it's an old song. Because it's an old song but re-recorded, reproduced and with added lyrics so it's also a different song and listening experience from the 2012 original. That and it wasn't originally released as a single nor did it even have a music video, it's been an acclaimed deep-cut for 9 years now so it had 9 years of hype built into its release. It's truly one of a kind.

[jenglisbe]

Dec 18, 2021 6:45:11 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Dec 18, 2021 5:31:49 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

ATW's situation is truly novel and unlike any in the Hot 100's history.

In this ever-evolving streaming era, where a song of any age can essentially be new to the GP, I think ATW might be foreshadowing of a future where a song doesn't have to be new to be a hit.

I don't think it's just that it's an old song. Because it's an old song but re-recorded, reproduced and with added lyrics so it's also a different song and listening experience from the 2012 original. That and it wasn't originally released as a single nor did it even have a music video, it's been an acclaimed deep-cut for 9 years now so it had 9 years of hype built into its release. It's truly one of a kind.

It is, though it's also akin to Kygo updating "Higher Love" and now the "Cold Heart" remix in some form. All of these use old vocals and combine them with new production, and all did well in at least one territory.

[phieaglesfan712]

Dec 18, 2021 6:03:43 GMT -5 @stateofgrace said:

Dec 17, 2021 20:35:25 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks:

Does anyone know what's the longest song to chart without significant airplay? Like ATW?

Wants and Needs charted 21 weeks without any airplay, and Tombstone charted 22 weeks despite peaking at #66 on kWorb airplay in August.

[ontopofthis]

Super Gremlin is going to explode next year. It is the only song that is not a Christmas song that is seeing huge gains on HITS’ streaming

[mylo]

Dec 18, 2021 8:45:51 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Super Gremlin is going to explode next year.

What an awful way to start 2022.

[gikem]

Dec 18, 2021 8:45:51 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Super Gremlin is going to explode next year. It is the only song that is not a Christmas song that is seeing huge gains on HITS’ streaming

Yeah, it looks poised to become The Box 2.0, except it’s serving as the return for an artist I thought we were done giving attention to by now.

[Au$tin]

Dec 18, 2021 5:31:49 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

I think ATW might be foreshadowing of a future where a song doesn't have to be new to be a hit.

Truth Hurts be like "am I a joke to you?"

[weaver]

Dec 18, 2021 7:54:02 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Dec 18, 2021 6:45:11 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I don't think it's just that it's an old song. Because it's an old song but re-recorded, reproduced and with added lyrics so it's also a different song and listening experience from the 2012 original. That and it wasn't originally released as a single nor did it even have a music video, it's been an acclaimed deep-cut for 9 years now so it had 9 years of hype built into its release. It's truly one of a kind.

It is, though it's also akin to Kygo updating "Higher Love" and now the "Cold Heart" remix in some form. All of these use old vocals and combine them with new production, and all did well in at least one territory.

Did Elton John not redo any of the vocals for Cold Heart? I thought maybe he had but I wasn't sure. They may have manipulated them or something. I like that song though, and I hope it can reach the top 10 post Christmas.

[weaver]

Dec 18, 2021 8:45:51 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Super Gremlin is going to explode next year. It is the only song that is not a Christmas song that is seeing huge gains on HITS’ streaming

I'll surely regret asking...but what is Super Gremlin? I legit never heard of it. I suspect it will not be my cup of tea...lol...

[Groovy]

Dec 18, 2021 9:20:26 GMT -5 weaver said:

Dec 18, 2021 8:45:51 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Super Gremlin is going to explode next year. It is the only song that is not a Christmas song that is seeing huge gains on HITS’ streaming

I'll surely regret asking...but what is Super Gremlin? I legit never heard of it. I suspect it will not be my cup of tea...lol...

It's a Kodak Black song, it's huge on streaming right now. 

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Dec 18, 2021 9:19:12 GMT -5 weaver said:

Dec 18, 2021 7:54:02 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

It is, though it's also akin to Kygo updating "Higher Love" and now the "Cold Heart" remix in some form. All of these use old vocals and combine them with new production, and all did well in at least one territory.

Did Elton John not redo any of the vocals for Cold Heart? I thought maybe he had but I wasn't sure. They may have manipulated them or something. I like that song though, and I hope it can reach the top 10 post Christmas.

Most articles I've read dont say anything about re-recording vocals so we can assume that most of the vocals are taken from Sacrifice. Makes sense though, his vocals on his other songs released this year sound older than on Cold Heart.

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Dec 18, 2021 5:31:49 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

ATW's situation is truly novel and unlike any in the Hot 100's history.

In this ever-evolving streaming era, where a song of any age can essentially be new to the GP, I think ATW might be foreshadowing of a future where a song doesn't have to be new to be a hit.

We did have songs like Nights in White Satin (released in 1967 and became a #2 hit in 1972) and Pure Prairie League’s “Amie” (released in 1972 and became a Top 10 hit in 1975) in the early days of the Hot 100.

[Az Paynter]

Dec 18, 2021 9:40:33 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Dec 18, 2021 9:19:12 GMT -5 weaver said:

Did Elton John not redo any of the vocals for Cold Heart? I thought maybe he had but I wasn't sure. They may have manipulated them or something. I like that song though, and I hope it can reach the top 10 post Christmas.

Most articles I've read dont say anything about re-recording vocals so we can assume that most of the vocals are taken from Sacrifice. Makes sense though, his vocals on his other songs released this year sound older than on Cold Heart.

I saw a video that broke down the four songs used in 'Cold Heart' and how they were used in the composition of the track; I think it had an excerpt from a radio interview where Elton said he'd effectively given PNAU carte blanche to go through his masters and do what they wanted with them, and PNAU made 'Cold Heart' out of them. So yeah, there were no new contributions from Elton himself, just Dua - which in the same interview Elton said it was his suggestion to bring someone else in on the track. So in the vault somewhere is an Elton-only version of the song before Dua recorded her parts.

[iHype.]

I hope mashups becoming a hit is something that happens more often. Mashups are so popular on YouTube too (or atleast used to be a few years ago? I don't really keep up with music via YouTube anymore). 

Another nice mashup hit that comes to mind, reached #11 on Pop radio:

[kindofbiased]

We've definitely had old songs become hits a few years after they initially released, that's nothing new, but have we ever had an old song get an extended re-release years later and THEN become a hit? I feel like that's the part that makes All Too Well so unique

[iHype.]

Dec 18, 2021 18:31:24 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

We've definitely had old songs become hits a few years after they initially released, that's nothing new, but have we ever had an old song get an extended re-release years later and THEN become a hit? I feel like that's the part that makes All Too Well so unique

For songs that became big hits after re-release years later:
UB40's "Red Red Wine" reached #34 in 1984, then re-released in 1988 and peaked #1.
Sheriff's "When I'm With You" reached #61 in 1983, then re-released in 1989 and peaked #1.
Charlene's "I've Never Been To Me" reached #97 in 1977, then re-released in 1982 and peaked #3.


There are more instances of songs having higher peaks in second runs years later in UK too I believe. Madonna's "Holiday" was released three times in UK, and on the opposite side was a hit each time -- peaking #6 in 1984, #2 in 1985, and #5 in 1991. That's so impressive for a non-Holiday song to just have 3 separate popular runs in less than a decade.

And ofcourse, "The Twist" is the biggest example of a non-Holiday song having two separate runs but was a big hit in both runs. 

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I don't think any of those were extended versions of the originals though