iHype.
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2014
Posts: 4,714
|
Post by iHype. on Dec 18, 2021 19:44:50 GMT -5
I don't think any of those were extended versions of the originals though Elvis - A Little Less Conversation comes to mind technically. 2:28 originally, released in 1968, peaked at #69 on Hot 100 and didn't chart in any other countries. Remixed in 2002 with a 3:30 radio edit and 6:22 album version. Peaked at #50 on Hot 100, and was a smash globally reaching #1 in UK/Australia/etc. The reason for the lower peak in US being the Hot 100 was like 98% airplay at that point, and it peaked at #1 on sales while not charting at radio. The compilation album it was the lead single for opened at #1 with 500K also. It was a big moment for the song. The 2002 version has 129 million streams on Spotify, while the 1968 original has 14 million streams. |
|
|
|
Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 18, 2021 19:55:23 GMT -5
^In the case of Red Red Wine, its 1984 chart run was with the 3:01 radio edit, while for the 1988 one it was with the 5:20 version which included the Astro "rap":
|
|
singingrulebritannia
Diamond Member
source: https://twitter.com/spookyfoxinc/status/1832168743704596972
Joined: January 2010
Posts: 25,932
My Charts
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by singingrulebritannia on Dec 18, 2021 21:12:54 GMT -5
That Junkie XL remix was everywhere; I agree that the Hot 100 peak was deceptive. I remember going on the old Flash animation website AlbinoBlackSheep back when I was a pre-teen, and watching this and other 'animutations' blew my mind, though they seem quaint now
|
|
gikem
3x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2020
Posts: 3,813
|
Post by gikem on Dec 18, 2021 21:36:32 GMT -5
If streaming were a thing back then, ALLC would’ve absolutely been a top 10 hit in the US. Just goes to show how some global smashes just don’t catch on here to the same extent.
|
|
Joe1240
6x Platinum Member
Taylor Swift-The Best in Pop & Country Music!
Joined: September 2003
Posts: 6,960
|
Post by Joe1240 on Dec 18, 2021 22:26:10 GMT -5
I don't think it's just that it's an old song. Because it's an old song but re-recorded, reproduced and with added lyrics so it's also a different song and listening experience from the 2012 original. That and it wasn't originally released as a single nor did it even have a music video, it's been an acclaimed deep-cut for 9 years now so it had 9 years of hype built into its release. It's truly one of a kind. It is, though it's also akin to Kygo updating "Higher Love" and now the "Cold Heart" remix in some form. All of these use old vocals and combine them with new production, and all did well in at least one territory. A good example would be Lizzo's song "Truth Hurts" was released in 2017 but became a hit in 2019 in the USA 2 years later. Also Lizzo's song with Ariana Grande as a added feature was originally released in 2016 but came out in late 2019. |
|
rideordie
Charting
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 289
|
Post by rideordie on Dec 18, 2021 22:41:11 GMT -5
All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks: Not the swifties getting rattled by this comment. When I said that ATW wasn’t a hit yall jumped down my throat. Now that we’re seeing that it’s about exit the hot 100 and it’s barely been a month, y’all are coming up with 101 excuses.... |
|
|
|
Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 18, 2021 23:56:53 GMT -5
All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks: Not the swifties getting rattled by this comment. When I said that ATW wasn’t a hit yall jumped down my throat. Now that we’re seeing that it’s about exit the hot 100 and it’s barely been a month, y’all are coming up with 101 excuses.... Yeah okay but it was still a hit. Y’all do the most painting every song with the same brush as if every single must follow the same points and rules in order to be called a hit. You can talk about it all you want, doesn’t make whatever song you’re trying to lessen any less of a hit. Just makes you look ignorant. Carry on with that :kii: |
|
iHype.
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2014
Posts: 4,714
|
Post by iHype. on Dec 19, 2021 0:24:13 GMT -5
If streaming were a thing back then, ALLC would’ve absolutely been a top 10 hit in the US. Just goes to show how some global smashes just don’t catch on here to the same extent. The biggest 2002 example of a global smash not catching on to the US charts and would've probably faired much better in a streaming-world is without a doubt "The Ketchup Song" lol. The Wikipedia chart peaks for it is just |
|
jayhawk1117
2x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2013
Posts: 2,758 
|
Post by jayhawk1117 on Dec 19, 2021 0:45:25 GMT -5
All Too Well predicted to fall off the Top 50 in Week 5, may struggle to reach 10 weeks: Not the swifties getting rattled by this comment. When I said that ATW wasn’t a hit yall jumped down my throat. Now that we’re seeing that it’s about exit the hot 100 and it’s barely been a month, y’all are coming up with 101 excuses.... damn you and Phieagles share the same fetish huh? |
|
JukeboxJacob
2x Platinum Member
Banned
another day another moment of cringe
Joined: November 2019
Posts: 2,472
|
Post by JukeboxJacob on Dec 19, 2021 1:54:00 GMT -5
speaking of 2000's global smashes everyone knows that didn't actually chart that high: Dragostea Din Tie
|
|
jenglisbe
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 35,628
|
Post by jenglisbe on Dec 19, 2021 6:40:57 GMT -5
I don't think any of those were extended versions of the originals though If anything that extended nature is what made it a hit since it was something to draw interest. The TV of the album version alone would not have gone #1. |
|
firefox
Platinum Member
Joined: July 2020
Posts: 1,047
|
Post by firefox on Dec 19, 2021 8:11:41 GMT -5
The biggest 2002 example of a global smash not catching on to the US charts and would've probably faired much better in a streaming-world is without a doubt "The Ketchup Song" lol. The Wikipedia chart peaks for it is just Had to check it myself and i was impressed 😱  |
|
Groovy
6x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2017
Posts: 6,719
|
Post by Groovy on Dec 19, 2021 8:31:40 GMT -5
I will never understand the thought process of saying a song that topped the charts not a hit, that just makes zero sense.
|
|
mylo
Charting
Joined: February 2021
Posts: 276
|
Post by mylo on Dec 19, 2021 9:32:03 GMT -5
^ Was Trollz a hit then? Or Permission To Dance?
|
|
Groovy
6x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2017
Posts: 6,719
|
Post by Groovy on Dec 19, 2021 9:50:08 GMT -5
^ Was Trollz a hit then? Or Permission To Dance? They were both mass bought to hell but yeah, I would say both were hits. |
|
HolidayGuy
Diamond Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 33,923
|
Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 19, 2021 10:14:05 GMT -5
^A top hit for a week, yes. :)
YouTube has updated its weekly charts. Actual/final numbers could be lower (post-filtering and such).
The top 40 Songs chart - which, I believe, combines all video/audio - and some other notables:
Dec 10 – Dec 16, 2021
1 (+1)- Super Gremlin, Kodak Black- 9.12M Views (+18.1%)
2 (+5)- abcdefu, GAYLE- 5.82M (+18.6%)
3 (+2)- All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey- 5.53M (+2.5%)
4NEW- Burn, Juice WRLD- 5.15M
5 (1)- Who Want Smoke?? Nardo Wick (feat. G Herbo, Lil Durk & 21 Savage)- 5.15M (-5.9%)
6 (=)- INDUSTRY BABY, Lil Nas X (feat. Jack Harlow)- 4.9M (-3.9% )
7 (+1)- Easy On Me, Adele- 4.56M (-3.2%)
8NEW- 100 Rounds, Birdman & Youngboy Never Broke Again- 3.8M
9 (+9)- Love Nwantiti [North African Remix], CKay- 3.39M (+13.1%)
10 (=)- By Your Side, Rod Wave- 3.37M (-5.4%)
11 (-2)- STAY, The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber- 3.13M (-15.9%)
12 (+4)- Essence, Wizkid (feat. Tems)- 3.11M (+3.1%)
13 (=)- I Hate U, SZA- 2.95M (-6.8%)
14 (=)- Save Your Tears, The Weeknd- 2.92M (-5.9%)
15 (+4)- Need To Know, Doja Cat- 2.83M (-2.5%)
16 (+1)- Pepas, Farruko- 2.81M (-6.9%)
17 (+7)- Cada Quien, Grupo Firme & Maluma- 2.78M (+10.8%)
18 (-15)- Woman, Doja Cat- 2.75M (-56.7%)
19 (+3)- Knife Talk, Drake (feat. 21 Savage & Project Pat)- 2.57M (-1.9%
20 (=)- Fancy Like, Walker Hayes- 2.56M (-4.8%)
21 (+6)- The Family Madrigal, Encanto - Cast- 2.52M (+5.7%)
22 (-11)- Black Ball, Youngboy Never Broke Again & Birdman- 2.52M (-28.3%)
23 (+5)- Enemy, Imagine Dragons (feat. JID)- 2.49M (+6.1%)
24 (+1)- Heat Waves, Glass Animals- 2.46M (-0.7%)
25 (-2)- Jugaste y Sufrí, Eslabón Armado (feat. DannyLux)- 2.46M (-6.3%)
26 (+3)- Last Christmas, Wham!- 2.44M (+4.1%)
27 (-1)- Outside (Better Days), MO3 & Og Bobby Billions- 2.31M (-3.4%)
28 (+8)- Kiss Me More, Doja Cat (feat. SZA)- 2.18M (+2.8%)
29 (-8)- Smokin Out The Window, Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic- 2.18M (-17%)
30 (+22)- Happier Than Ever, Billie Eilish- 2.16M (+19.1%)
31 (+6)- Maybach, 42 Dugg (feat. FUTURE)- 2.15M (+1.7%)
32 (=)- Wild Side, Normani (feat. Cardi B)- 2.09M (-4.6%)
33 (-2)- Welcome to My House, Nu Breed (feat. Jesse Howard)- 1.99M (-10.2%)
34 (+23)- Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee- 1.99M (+11.7%)
35 (+3)- Street Runner, Rod Wave- 1.98M (-4.9%)
36 (+50)- Fortnight, Polo G- 1.96M (+46%)
37 (+19)- Cold Heart (PNAU Remix), Elton John, Dua Lipa & Pnau- 1.95M (+9.5%)
38 (+12)- Astronaut In The Ocean, Masked Wolf- 1.93M (+4.3%)
39 (+7)- EVERY CHANCE I GET, DJ Khaled (feat. Lil Baby & Lil Durk)- 1.93M (+1%)
40 (+9)- Shivers, Ed Sheeran- 1.93M (+3.9%)
52 (+9)- Jingle Bell Rock., Bobby Helms- 1.79M (+3.1%)
54NEW- Outlawz, Rick Ross (feat. Jazmine Sullivan & 21 Savage)- 1.67M
55NEW- Por Tu Maldito Amor, Vicente Fernández- 1.66M
56 (+8)- Santa Tell Me, Ariana Grande- 1.64M (-1.4%)
57 (-56)- Heart & Soul / Alligator Walk, Youngboy Never Broke Again- 1.63M (-83.6%)
63NEW- How Ya Kno, Youngboy Never Broke Again- 1.52M
66NEW- Young Stunna, Youngboy Never Broke Again- 1.48M
68NEW- I Really, Hotboii (feat. 42 Dugg & Moneybagg Yo)- 1.44M
69NEW- Feline, Juice WRLD (feat. Polo G & Trippie Redd)- 1.43M
70NEW- Girl of My Dreams, Juice WRLD, SUGA & BTS- 1.41M
72 (+8)- It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas, Michael Bublé- 1.4M (-1.4%)
74 (-16)- All Too Well (10 Minute Version) [Taylor's Version] [From The Vault], Taylor Swift- 1.39M (-21.8%)
76RE- Feliz Navidad, José Feliciano (feat. Fawijo)- 1.37M
79 (+14)- Underneath the Tree, Kelly Clarkson- 1.28M (-0.9%)
83NEW- Achievements, Youngboy Never Broke Again & Birdman- 1.25M
84NEW- Handstand, French Montana & Doja Cat (feat. Saweetie)- 1.25M
85RE- The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year, Andy Williams- 1.24M
88NEW- Oo Antava..Oo Oo Antava, 1.2M
89NEW- You Wouldn't Understand, Juice WRLD- 1.2M
90RE- Volví, Aventura & Bad Bunny- 1.2M
91NEW- Buy Dirt, Jordan Davis (feat. Luke Bryan)- 1.19M
92RE- Silent Night, The Temptations- 1.18M
95NEW- Stuck With Me, Youngboy Never Broke Again & Birdman- 1.14M
96RE- Don't, Bryson Tiller- 1.14M
97RE- Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, Gene Autry (feat. The Pinafores)- 1.13M
98NEW- We Set The Trends, Jim Jones & Migos- 1.12M
99RE- Have Mercy, Chlöe- 1.11M
|
|
otaviohmg
Platinum Member
Caught up in my head, hopin' you gon' say Was it worth it? Put that work in Got me nothin'
Joined: September 2019
Posts: 1,464
|
Post by otaviohmg on Dec 19, 2021 11:00:02 GMT -5
|
|
gikem
3x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2020
Posts: 3,813
|
Post by gikem on Dec 19, 2021 11:02:56 GMT -5
Since I posted this prediction in the wrong thread, I'll repeat what I said in my original post: - Looks like Girl of My Dreams won't debut as high as lots of people said it would (though I still think it'll be one of the bigger debuts from Fighting Demons) - We can expect Save Your Tears, Beggin', If I Didn't Love You, and Pepas to all go recurrent this week |
|
Envoirment
Diamond Member
Joined: December 2009
Posts: 13,711
|
Post by Envoirment on Dec 19, 2021 11:11:41 GMT -5
I wonder if "Easy On Me" will crack 100 million audience when Christmas is over? It should gain a good 15-20 million AI from AC radio.
Edit: On Billboard.
|
|
|
|
Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 19, 2021 11:20:16 GMT -5
I wonder if "Easy On Me" will crack 100 million audience when Christmas is over? It should gain a good 15-20 million AI from AC radio. Edit: On Billboard. lol, I hope not. We don't need radio to hold on to EOM like they did with Stay. |
|
Soulsista
Diamond Member
Room for one more, honey.
Joined: December 2006
Posts: 11,876
|
Post by Soulsista on Dec 19, 2021 11:31:30 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
December 18, 1961 (For the week ending December 23)
01 06 The Lion Sleeps Tonight - The Tokens (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Please Mr. Postman - The Marvelettes
03 07 Run To Him - Bobby Vee
04 04 The Twist - Chubby Checker
05 05 Walk On By - Leroy Van Dyke
06 03 Goodbye Cruel World - James Darren
07 09 Let There Be Drums - Sandy Nelson
08 10 Happy Birthday, Sweet Sixteen - Neil Sedaka
09 02 Big Bad John - Jimmy Dean
10 15 Peppermint Twist (Part 1) - Joey Dee & The Starlighters
18 41 Can't Help Falling In Love - Elvis Presley
December 24, 1966
01 01 Winchester Cathedral - The New Vaudeville Band (3rd and final week at #1)
02 02 Mellow Yellow - Donovan
03 08 I'm a Believer - The Monkees
04 06 That's Life - Frank Sinatra
05 04 Devil With a Blue Dress On / Good Golly Miss Molly (Medley) - Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
06 09 Sugar Town - Nancy Sinatra
07 30 Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron - The Royal Guardsmen
08 03 Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys
09 10 A Place In The Sun - Stevie Wonder
10 12 (I Know) I'm Losing You - The Temptations
December 25, 1971
01 02 Brand New Key - Melanie (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Family Affair - Sly & The Family Stone
03 09 American Pie (Parts 1 & 2) - Don McLean
04 04 An Old Fashioned Love Song - Three Dog Night
05 05 Got To Be There - Michael Jackson
06 03 Have You Seen Her - The Chi-Lites
07 08 All I Ever Need Is You - Sonny & Cher
08 11 Scorpio - Dennis Coffey & The Detroit Guitar Band
09 10 Cherish - David Cassidy
10 12 Hey Girl - Donny Osmond
December 25, 1976
01 01 Tonight's The Night (Gonna Be Alright) - Rod Stewart (7th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 03 You Don't Have To Be a Star (To Be In My Show) - Marilyn McCoo & Billy Davis Jr.
03 02 The Rubberband Man - The Spinners
04 05 You Make Me Feel Like Dancing - Leo Sayer
05 06 More Than a Feeling - Boston
06 06 Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word - Elton John
07 18 I Wish - Stevie Wonder
08 12 Dazz - Brick
09 17 Car Wash - Rose Royce
10 11 After The Lovin' - Engelbert Humperdinck
20 48 New Kid In Town - The Eagles
December 26, 1981
01 01 Physical - Olivia Newton-John (6th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Waiting For a Girl Like You - Foreigner
03 03 Let's Groove - Earth, Wind & Fire
04 06 I Can't Go For That (No Can Do) - Daryl Hall & John Oates
05 05 Young Turks - Rod Stewart
06 08 Harden My Heart - Quarterflash
07 07 Why Do Fools Fall In Love - Diana Ross
08 10 Leather And Lace - Stevie Nicks w/Don Henley
09 09 Don't Stop Believin' - Journey
10 11 Trouble - Lindsey Buckingham
|
|
HolidayGuy
Diamond Member
Joined: December 2003
Posts: 33,923
|
Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 19, 2021 11:49:24 GMT -5
The predictor prefaces that the predictions could be wildly inaccurate- would be interesting if that turned out so.
|
|
Soulsista
Diamond Member
Room for one more, honey.
Joined: December 2006
Posts: 11,876
|
Post by Soulsista on Dec 19, 2021 11:53:06 GMT -5
The chart from 30 years ago was frozen, so the year-end Top 10 will be posted instead.
December 27, 1986
01 01 Walk Like An Egyptian - The Bangles (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 03 Everybody Have Fun Tonight - Wang Chung
03 04 Notorious - Duran Duran
04 05 Shake You Down - Gregory Abbott
05 02 The Way It Is - Bruce Hornsby & The Range
06 08 C'est La Vie - Robbie Nevil
07 13 Control - Janet Jackson
08 11 War - Bruce Springsteen
09 09 Stand By Me - Ben E. King
10 12 Don't Get Me Wrong - The Pretenders
1991 Year-End Top 10
1. (Everything I Do) I Do It For You - Bryan Adams (#1, July)
2. I Wanna Sex You Up - Color Me Badd (#2, June)
3. Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now) - C+C Music Factory (#1, February)
4. Rush Rush - Paula Abdul (#1, June)
5. One More Try - Timmy T (#1, March)
6. Unbelievable - EMF (#1, July)
7. More Than Words - Extreme (#1, June)
8. I Like The Way (The Kissing Game) - Hi-Five (#1, May)
9. The First Time - Surface (#1, January)
10. Baby Baby - Amy Grant (#1, April)
1996 Year-End Top 10
1. Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix) - Los Del Rio (#1, August)
2. One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men (#1, December 1995)
3. Because You Loved Me - Celine Dion (#1, March)
4. Nobody Knows - The Tony Rich Project (#2, March)
5. Always Be My Baby - Mariah Carey (#1, May)
6. Give Me One Reason - Tracy Chapman (#3, June)
7. Tha Crossroads - Bone Thugs-n-Harmony (#1, May)
8. I Love You Always Forever - Donna Lewis (#2, August)
9. You're Makin' Me High / Let It Flow - Toni Braxton (#1, July)
10. Twisted - Keith Sweat (#2, August)
Here's the Top 10 from December 28, 1996
01 01 Un-Break My Heart - Toni Braxton (4th of 11 weeks at #1)
02 02 I Believe I Can Fly - R. Kelly
03 04 Don't Let Go (Love) - En Vogue
04 03 No Diggity - Blackstreet feat. Dr. Dre
05 05 Nobody - Keith Sweat feat. Athena Cage
06 06 Mouth - Merril Bainbridge
07 NE I Believe In You And Me - Whitney Houston
08 07 It's All Coming Back To Me Now - Celine Dion
09 10 I'm Still In Love With You - New Edition
10 08 I Finally Found Someone - Barbra Streisand & Bryan Adams
December 22, 2001
01 03 How You Remind Me - Nickelback (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 01 U Got It Bad - Usher
03 02 Family Affair - Mary J. Blige
04 04 Hero - Enrique Iglesias
05 06 Get The Party Started - P!nk
06 07 Differences - Ginuwine
07 09 Whenever, Wherever - Shakira
08 08 Livin' It Up - Ja Rule feat. Case
09 13 Always On Time - Ja Rule feat. Ashanti
10 05 Turn Off The Light - Nelly Furtado
|
|
Soulsista
Diamond Member
Room for one more, honey.
Joined: December 2006
Posts: 11,876
|
Post by Soulsista on Dec 19, 2021 12:11:30 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
December 23, 2006
01 01 Irreplaceable - Beyonce (2nd of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 I Wanna Love You - Akon feat. Snoop Dogg
03 04 Fergalicious - Fergie feat. will.i.am
04 03 Smack That - Akon feat. Eminem
05 05 My Love - Justin Timberlake feat. T.I.
06 12 Say It Right - Nelly Furtado
07 06 Wind It Up - Gwen Stefani
08 10 We Fly High - Jim Jones
09 07 How To Save a Life - The Fray
10 09 Shortie Like Mine - Bow Wow feat. Chris Brown & Johnta Austin
12 NE You Don't Know - Eminem, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks & Cashis
December 24, 2011
01 01 We Found Love - Rihanna feat. Calvin Harris (7th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Sexy And I Know It - LMFAO
03 03 It Will Rain - Bruno Mars
04 09 The One That Got Away - Katy Perry
05 05 Good Feeling - Flo Rida
06 08 N***as In Paris - Jay-Z & Kanye West
07 06 Someone Like You - Adele
08 04 Moves Like Jagger - Maroon 5 feat. Christina Aguilera
09 07 Without You - David Guetta feat. Usher
10 11 5 O'Clock - T-Pain feat. Wiz Khalifa & Lily Allen
12 NE We Are Young - Glee Cast
December 24, 2016
01 01 Black Beatles - Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane (5th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Starboy - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
03 03 Closer - The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey
04 05 24k Magic - Bruno Mars
05 04 Side To Side - Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj
06 06 Juju On That Beat (TZ Anthem) - Zay Hilfigerrr & Zaylon McCall
07 08 Don't Wanna Know - Maroon 5 feat. Kendrick Lamar
08 07 Let Me Love You - DJ Snake feat. Justin Bieber
09 09 Heathens - Twenty One Pilots
10 17 Bad Things - Machine Gun Kelly x Camila Cabello
23 53 Love Me Now - John Legend
24 49 Bad And Boujee - Migos feat. Lil Uzi Vert
December 26, 2020
01 NE willow - Taylor Swift (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 All I Want For Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey
03 03 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree - Brenda Lee
04 05 Jingle Bell Rock - Bobby Helms
05 02 Mood - 24kGoldn feat. Iann Dior
06 14 A Holly Jolly Christmas - Burl Ives
07 06 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year - Andy Williams
08 04 positions - Ariana Grande
09 24 Dynamite - BTS
10 10 Feliz Navidad - Jose Feliciano
12 35 It's Beginning To Look a Lot Like Christmas - Perry Como & The Fontaine Sisters feat. Mitchell Ayres & His Orchestra
21 NE champagne problems - Taylor Swift
|
|
|
|
Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 19, 2021 12:19:45 GMT -5
^ Was Trollz a hit then? Or Permission To Dance? It still seems wrong that Permission To Dance got the #1 debut over Stay. |
|
mylo
Charting
Joined: February 2021
Posts: 276
|
Post by mylo on Dec 19, 2021 13:12:29 GMT -5
That's Army for you, they throw their backing behind a song better believe BTS will get yet another number 1.
|
|
|
|
Post by sheardbeard on Dec 19, 2021 13:17:54 GMT -5
I’d say if a song makes it to #1 (no matter how it got there), it should be considered a “hit”, regardless of its overall familiarity to the masses or its chart longevity (or lack thereof). So yes, “TROLLZ”, “All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor’s Version)” and even “FRANCHISE” were hits, regardless of the average person on the street never hearing (nor hearing of) those songs.
With that said, the term “hit” is subjective. Back in the late ‘90s when airplay-only songs weren’t allowed to chart on the Hot 100, songs like “Iris”, “Fly” and “Don’t Speak” were massively popular, even though they never charted on the Hot 100. So, you can have sales hits, streaming hits, and airplay hits. Regardless, they’re all “hits”, one way or another.
|
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 13:49:54 GMT -5
I’d say if a song makes it to #1 (no matter how it got there), it should be considered a “hit”, regardless of its overall familiarity to the masses or its chart longevity (or lack thereof). So yes, “TROLLZ”, “All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor’s Version)” and even “FRANCHISE” were hits, regardless of the average person on the street never hearing (nor hearing of) those songs. With that said, the term “hit” is subjective. Back in the late ‘90s when airplay-only songs weren’t allowed to chart on the Hot 100, songs like “Iris”, “Fly” and “Don’t Speak” were massively popular, even though they never charted on the Hot 100. So, you can have sales hits, streaming hits, and airplay hits. Regardless, they’re all “hits”, one way or another. How many songs released in a given year does the average person on the street recognize? I feel like with streaming that number has probably been reduced to single digits. Everyone has their favorite genre and musician that they follow. |
|
joshtheking
Platinum Member
Joined: April 2020
Posts: 1,562
|
Post by joshtheking on Dec 19, 2021 13:55:21 GMT -5
I wonder if "Easy On Me" will crack 100 million audience when Christmas is over? It should gain a good 15-20 million AI from AC radio. Edit: On Billboard. lol, I hope not. We don't need radio to hold on to EOM like they did with Stay. Or like they did with Blinding Lights? |
|
|
|
Post by phieaglesfan712 on Dec 19, 2021 14:09:15 GMT -5
lol, I hope not. We don't need radio to hold on to EOM like they did with Stay. Or like they did with Blinding Lights? That was different. Unlike Stay and EOM, BL didn’t smash out of the box and took like 5 months to get to its peak. I feel like Stay (and now EOM) are being forced down our throats. |
|
