Billboard Hot 100: 04/02/2022

[phieaglesfan712]

Mar 22, 2022 12:20:27 GMT -5 enwhy said:

Latto announced a remix for Big Energy on the 28th, the week of her album. Leakers (who were right on the rest of the tracklist) say it's with Nicki Minaj.

If the Barbz decide to do a sales campaign for the remix...15k sales would probably get her top 5, 40k would be the target for #1.
She's also got the album that week, which could give an additional boost.

If there was going to be a sales campaign, why wait until Monday to release the remix?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Mar 22, 2022 12:30:23 GMT -5 badrobot said:

I'm sure others have made this connection before but I was just thinking about the staleness of the charts and the strength of older music, and realized we are experiencing that in movies and TV too -- basically, we just keep revisiting the same characters with movies like Batman and Spiderman, while we've had reboot after reboot of old TV shows. It seems like all of popular media has become a nostalgia/comfort machine.

I mean reboots aren't anything new nor is revisiting the same characters with movies. How is making more movies of Batman and Spider-man any different from making a ton of James Bond or Sherlock Holmes movies? Or fairy tales like Cinderella, Robin Hood, Dracula, and The Phantom of the Opera being adapted in different ways? People come back to these characters for a reason, it's how storytelling has always been.

And especially in TV, original ideas are still being massively successful, it's not all reboots and nostalgia. Just over the past few years we've seen new shows like Succession, Squid Game, Arcane, Invincible, Bridgerton, Money Heist, Euphoria, hell even The Masked Singer all be massively successful. Besides: how many reboots of old shows have actually gotten attention one year after they dropped?

I'm not saying nostalgia bait isn't there, I'm just saying it's not that big an issue

[joshtheking]

Mar 22, 2022 12:32:06 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

-(-) Zzoilo - Mon Amour f/Aitana 1.26(+0.99) +

It's a major longshot but I would love for this to be a hit

[badrobot]

Mar 22, 2022 12:40:21 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Mar 22, 2022 12:30:23 GMT -5 badrobot said:

I'm sure others have made this connection before but I was just thinking about the staleness of the charts and the strength of older music, and realized we are experiencing that in movies and TV too -- basically, we just keep revisiting the same characters with movies like Batman and Spiderman, while we've had reboot after reboot of old TV shows. It seems like all of popular media has become a nostalgia/comfort machine.

I mean reboots aren't anything new nor is revisiting the same characters with movies. How is making more movies of Batman and Spider-man any different from making a ton of James Bond or Sherlock Holmes movies? Or fairy tales like Cinderella, Robin Hood, Dracula, and The Phantom of the Opera being adapted in different ways? People come back to these characters for a reason, it's how storytelling has always been.

And especially in TV, original ideas are still being massively successful, it's not all reboots and nostalgia. Just over the past few years we've seen new shows like Succession, Squid Game, Arcane, Invincible, Bridgerton, Money Heist, Euphoria, hell even The Masked Singer all be massively successful. Besides: how many reboots of old shows have actually gotten attention one year after they dropped?

I'm not saying nostalgia bait isn't there, I'm just saying it's not that big an issue

Many folks have commented on the staleness of the charts, and the data shows also that catalog listening is becoming a bigger portion of listening and we are having fewer "big" songs but they are lasting much longer on the charts. I was drawing a comparison to other trends.

It was very rare to reboot a TV show until over the past few years. A few animated shows like Family Guy and Futurama got un-canceled in the early 2000s but then more recently we've had a pretty constant stream of reboots, including Full House, X-Files, Will & Grace, Roseanne, Law & Order, Bel Air, etc. This was not the norm before until the past few years.

And of course movies have always had franchises. But the proportion of the box office that goes to comic book movies and sequels/reboots has gone up significantly. I'll skip the pandemic years since movie grosses were fucked up then, but in the recent years all the top ten films of the year have been franchise films. In 2019 the highest grossing original film (i.e., not a franchise film or remake) was #12 (Us). In 2018 it was #14 (Bohemian Rhapsody). In 2017 it was #12 (Dunkirk). Zero in the top ten in any of those years. Jump back to 1995, half the top 10 films were original. In both 1993 and 1994 it was the entire top ten films of the year (unless you count The Flintstones movie, then it's 19 out of 20).

All of what I said right there are facts, not opinions -- so I'm not sure why you're being argumentative here. Have there been franchises, remakes, reboots, etc in the past? Of course! Have they ever dominated popular culture the way they do today? No, they have not. This is a recent trend that has accelerated.

[tommy1860]

http://instagram.com/p/CbYrnYVp4nQ

There’s also a remix of No Love coming out on Friday with Cardi B. Weird timing to release it, since the original was doing well on streaming months ago. But it could chart since Summer, SZA and Cardi all do well on streaming.

[jaffery]

Harry releasing lead either this Friday or next. Should be an easy -#1 debut for him

[kindofbiased]

I feel like predicting ANY song debuting #1 nowadays jinxes it lmao. Regardless, new Harry Styles music should definitely shake up the charts

[nathanalbright]

Let's hold off on the "surefire #1 debut" until we at least see some data. That said, new Harry Styles music is something many of us can look forward to.

[degen]

Mar 22, 2022 9:01:53 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Taylor Swift will release an original song - 'Carolina' - for the movie adaptation of "Where the Crawdads Sing", produced by Aaron Desner

http://instagr.am/p/CbaINOtlX54

Hopefully it hits #1 in 7-8 years when it gets re-released as ‘Carolina (Taylor’s Version) (Extended Version)(From The Vault, Volume 2)’

[nathanalbright]

I imagine it would be a fifteen minute version at that point that makes fun of some past lover.

[atg]

Mar 21, 2022 10:26:33 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

There is no reason why radio should be holding on to 18-24 month songs that have peaked nearly a year ago, like Levitating and Save Your Tears. Not to mention, this is hurting both artists’ chances of producing another successful single any time soon. Just take a look what happened to Take My Breath and Sacrifice, with Sweetest Pie about to suffer a similar fate to TMB.

It won’t really matter if Out of Time or Less Than Zero is the next single, if SYT is still charting, the single stands no chance of being successful.

SYT is literally in the top 10 on Spotify when combining both versions. It’s not only just the radio but people also still have an interest in listening to the song on their own. Out Of Time might do well if they play it right with the play listing and the radio and that could be the song that diverts the attention away from SYT but both streaming and radio has to work together to make that happen.

Also i don’t assume artists featured on songs that they’ll mess up their chart run if they have any other songs that they have on the charts right now. Levitating isn’t messing with Cold Heart, and SYT isn’t messing with ORN. Sweetest Pie and Sacrifice might be underperforming but they all can’t be hits in the end.

[enwhy]

Mar 22, 2022 12:36:36 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Mar 22, 2022 12:20:27 GMT -5 enwhy said:

Latto announced a remix for Big Energy on the 28th, the week of her album. Leakers (who were right on the rest of the tracklist) say it's with Nicki Minaj.

If the Barbz decide to do a sales campaign for the remix...15k sales would probably get her top 5, 40k would be the target for #1.
She's also got the album that week, which could give an additional boost.

If there was going to be a sales campaign, why wait until Monday to release the remix?

I was wondering that myself. I think what they're going for is to let the album boost the streams over the weekend, and then use the remix to boost it again after the hype dies down a bit.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Mar 22, 2022 14:43:33 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Mar 22, 2022 12:40:21 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I mean reboots aren't anything new nor is revisiting the same characters with movies. How is making more movies of Batman and Spider-man any different from making a ton of James Bond or Sherlock Holmes movies? Or fairy tales like Cinderella, Robin Hood, Dracula, and The Phantom of the Opera being adapted in different ways? People come back to these characters for a reason, it's how storytelling has always been.

And especially in TV, original ideas are still being massively successful, it's not all reboots and nostalgia. Just over the past few years we've seen new shows like Succession, Squid Game, Arcane, Invincible, Bridgerton, Money Heist, Euphoria, hell even The Masked Singer all be massively successful. Besides: how many reboots of old shows have actually gotten attention one year after they dropped?

I'm not saying nostalgia bait isn't there, I'm just saying it's not that big an issue

Many folks have commented on the staleness of the charts, and the data shows also that catalog listening is becoming a bigger portion of listening and we are having fewer "big" songs but they are lasting much longer on the charts. I was drawing a comparison to other trends.

It was very rare to reboot a TV show until over the past few years. A few animated shows like Family Guy and Futurama got un-canceled in the early 2000s but then more recently we've had a pretty constant stream of reboots, including Full House, X-Files, Will & Grace, Roseanne, Law & Order, Bel Air, etc. This was not the norm before until the past few years.

And of course movies have always had franchises. But the proportion of the box office that goes to comic book movies and sequels/reboots has gone up significantly. I'll skip the pandemic years since movie grosses were f**ked up then, but in the recent years all the top ten films of the year have been franchise films. In 2019 the highest grossing original film (i.e., not a franchise film or remake) was #12 (Us). In 2018 it was #14 (Bohemian Rhapsody). In 2017 it was #12 (Dunkirk). Zero in the top ten in any of those years. Jump back to 1995, half the top 10 films were original. In both 1993 and 1994 it was the entire top ten films of the year (unless you count The Flintstones movie, then it's 19 out of 20).

All of what I said right there are facts, not opinions -- so I'm not sure why you're being argumentative here. Have there been franchises, remakes, reboots, etc in the past? Of course! Have they ever dominated popular culture the way they do today? No, they have not. This is a recent trend that has accelerated.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with any of what you brought up but again, my point stands this is not that big of an issue. Media consumption is fragmented nowadays. There might be a ton of reboots but if you're not in the target demo, you don't have to care about it.

Music consumption is a lot more complicated since TV and Movies require your active attention while music listening is a passive experience, you can do something else while listening to music.

[fridayteenage]

harry's discography has so far spent one week in the top 3.

that's less than, say, dua or megan.

[Choco]

Harry is certainly on the rise and the charts are weak but I feel like it could grow into a #1 peak but probably not an automatic debut there.

Would love to see a new #1 though. The alternatives are old ass STAY or the song that already charted for over a year so new blood is overdue.

[jthentic]

My exs best friend ft blackbear 2.0 in two days

[dremolus - solarpunk]

WDTAB won't be performed at the Oscars

[Abbaschand]

That said Original Song nominees. WDTAB is not a nominee. If anything, the only one missing is Van Morrison's song.

[After Minutes]

I honestly think that if they want the chart to be the "hot" 100 they should introduce a rule where songs gaining in points get a special quanitfier, for example the percentage points increase that a song has each week could be used as a multiplier. If a song gains 15% on streaming and 7% on radio, those stats are modified - they use a 1,15× and 1,07× for each stat respectively. Decreases wouldn't be included in this, but it would provide the charts a lot more mobility

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Mar 22, 2022 23:33:24 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

harry's discography has so far spent one week in the top 3.

that's less than, say, dua or megan.

yeah, but that doesn't matter. We have Polo G, Olivia Rodrigo and Childish Gambino whose first top 10s were #1 debuts. It all depends on the hype, fanbase and and most importantly - the song.

[Jay D83]

Mar 23, 2022 3:28:07 GMT -5 Abbaschand said:

That said Original Song nominees. WDTAB is not a nominee. If anything, the only one missing is Van Morrison's song.

Will Packer (Oscars producer) just announced on "Good Morning America" that WDTAB will be performed and they want all of the kids to watch and sing along.

[fridayteenage]

I didn't say he definitely won't be #1. I was responding to "Should be an easy -#1 debut for him."

[ontopofthis]

Sweetest Pie is not even a top ten debut with Billboard being historically weak! The pop industry has really become a struggle industry

[ontopofthis]

Mar 23, 2022 4:26:21 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

I honestly think that if they want the chart to be the "hot" 100 they should introduce a rule where songs gaining in points get a special quanitfier, for example the percentage points increase that a song has each week could be used as a multiplier. If a song gains 15% on streaming and 7% on radio, those stats are modified - they use a 1,15× and 1,07× for each stat respectively. Decreases wouldn't be included in this, but it would provide the charts a lot more mobility

They need to not include airplay similar to European charts if they want to be a real hot 100

[ontopofthis]

Mar 23, 2022 6:53:42 GMT -5 Jay D83 said:

Mar 23, 2022 3:28:07 GMT -5 Abbaschand said:

That said Original Song nominees. WDTAB is not a nominee. If anything, the only one missing is Van Morrison's song.

Will Packer (Oscars producer) just announced on "Good Morning America" that WDTAB will be performed and they want all of the kids to watch and sing along.

They refused to nominate the song, but they want it performed because it is a huge hit. They need to be offended because they want them to boost their ratings since the nominees are not hits

[Fears in the Fire]

I highly doubt Harry will debut at #1 unless it’s something special

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Mar 23, 2022 8:50:16 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Mar 23, 2022 4:26:21 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

I honestly think that if they want the chart to be the "hot" 100 they should introduce a rule where songs gaining in points get a special quanitfier, for example the percentage points increase that a song has each week could be used as a multiplier. If a song gains 15% on streaming and 7% on radio, those stats are modified - they use a 1,15× and 1,07× for each stat respectively. Decreases wouldn't be included in this, but it would provide the charts a lot more mobility

They need to not include airplay similar to European charts if they want to be a real hot 100

Yeah, let’s completely remove entire chunks of the music consuming population because we don’t like how slow the chart moves.

[rosalina4812]

It looks like new music that can actually chart is coming. Thank god. Why is streaming so weak lately? Where is everyone streaming their music?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 03 » / « 23 »

1(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 90.42(-0.23)
2(=) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 80.51(-0.39)
3(=) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 79.61(-0.70)
4(=) Justin Bieber - Ghost 78.71(-0.30)
5(=) GAYLE - abcdefu (feat. Royal & the Serpent) 73.16(-1.44)
6(=) Doja Cat - Woman 72.90(+0.36)
7(=) Latto - Big Energy 65.63(+0.20)
8(+1) Imagine Dragons - Enemy From League Of Legends 61.85(+0.89)
9(-1) Adele - Easy On Me 60.31(-0.83)
10(=) Post Malone & The Weeknd - One Right Now 57.40(-0.05)

24(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 36.17(+0.69) +

37(+3) Cole Swindell & Lainey Wilson - Never Say Never 29.35(+0.80)

45(+3) Megan Thee Stallion & Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 24.73(+0.76)

-(-) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 7.72(+0.66)

[mms82]

Mar 23, 2022 10:00:36 GMT -5 rosalina4812 said:

It looks like new music that can actually chart is coming. Thank god. Why is streaming so weak lately? Where is everyone streaming their music?

What’s the new music coming?