Billboard Hot 100: 04/23/2022

[mms82]

Apr 11, 2022 12:00:30 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Apr 11, 2022 10:21:34 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Tack on that it's coming from Morgan Wallen. A person I will continue to not support in any shape or fashion because at this point he relishes in his MAGA approved branding instead of condemning his followers and apologizing for his racist remarks.

If CCM is going to be a hit, let it be from someone that actually practices what the preach and lives a good Christian lifestyle, not one that uses religion as an excuse for their bigotry and only acts Christian when it benefits them.

For good CCM from genuinely good people, see for KING & COUNTRY. "Together" with Tori Kelly and Kirk Franklin is a good song. "Joy" is a bop.

To be fair, lets stop with the narrative that he didn't apologize, nor that he hasn't tried to right his wrongs: www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/09/22/morgan-wallen-kept-his-pledge-donate-money-black-serving-groups/5788855001/.

Whether you want to accept that or not is, of course, your prerogative.

^^
people are way too quick to pile on, when he made a mistake while blackout drunk, has apologized for his actions and tried to right his wrongs. It doesn't make what he did right, but hopefully most will forgive him and the bulk of his audience did, that why he's hopefully able to go number one with a CCM Country song next week and top the Billboard 200 with a 1.5 year old album that has been in the top 5 almost exclusively since its debut

[fridayteenage]

most of his audience was perfectly fine with what he did/said, which is why his album has been doing well nonstop since it was released.

there's nothing for them to forgive.

[phieaglesfan712]

Apr 11, 2022 11:16:58 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Apr 11, 2022 11:03:29 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I think it’s time to accept that Out of Time isn’t going anywhere and the Dawn FM era is just about over. If OoT was ever going to take off on streaming or radio, it would have already done so by now. Instead, OoT’s position on Spotify is lower than it was the day the video was released. Not to mention, it’s radio numbers are stagnant, while songs by Shawn Mendes and J Balvin/Ed Sheeran are showing healthy gains.

I didn't know the Blinding Lights simp was such a Weeknd hater

Again, the song is just starting on radio, give it some time. After Delicate's run I don't write songs off so quickly anymore, because they can chart for months before reaching a high threshold.

I’m not a Weeknd hater. I’m just being realistic with the numbers I’m seeing. You can say that OoT is just starting out on radio, but it already has 4 formats and is being passed, left and right, by songs that are equally as new and have less formats than OoT. That has to be concerning.

[Music Fan]

Apr 11, 2022 12:16:48 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

most of his audience was perfectly fine with what he did/said, which is why his album has been doing well nonstop since it was released.

there's nothing for them to forgive.

To equate the success of his album to him saying what he said is faulty, at best. I will admit that his album saw a disgusting increase in the weeks following news of what he did. But, it's not like we are talking about an album that was hangin out in the 50s and all of a sudden shot to #1. We are talking about an album that debuted at #1 and was Top 10 when this happened. So, his album was well liked to begin with.

This is not the same as the stupid Lets Go Brandon songs that enjoyed two-three weeks of "success" by MAGA nutjobs and then died down.

[Choco]

Morgan Wallen was way too big of a rising star for that controversy to kill his career.

And a big chunk of the audience also says the n-word regularly let's not kid ourselves. For most people it wasn't a dealbreaker to stop enjoying songs they liked.

[Gary]

The album was the biggest hit in the country before the "incident"
Still is one of the biggest a year later after the incident

The incident - long since out of the main news cycle - It has been long enough now - you could safely say - people are listening to the music simply because they are fans of the music.

[loveless]

On a different note lmao, Harry is headlining Coachella this Friday. No clue how much of a boost that typically provides, but I assume that would give AiW an edge over First Class going into the third week?

[Choco]

Apr 11, 2022 12:57:12 GMT -5 loveless said:

On a different note lmao, Harry is headlining Coachella this Friday. No clue how much of a boost that typically provides, but I assume that would give AiW an edge over First Class going into the third week?

I've never seen that have much impact outside of new releases.

But radio will give Harry an advantage over Jack.

[fridayteenage]

Apr 11, 2022 12:35:04 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Apr 11, 2022 12:16:48 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

most of his audience was perfectly fine with what he did/said, which is why his album has been doing well nonstop since it was released.

there's nothing for them to forgive.

To equate the success of his album to him saying what he said is faulty, at best. I will admit that his album saw a disgusting increase in the weeks following news of what he did. But, it's not like we are talking about an album that was hangin out in the 50s and all of a sudden shot to #1. We are talking about an album that debuted at #1 and was Top 10 when this happened. So, his album was well liked to begin with.

I never said anything to the contrary.

I said that his fans had zero issue with his racism, which is why activity never dropped as a result of said racism. Key word: nonstop.

[dovahduck]

A new peak for "One Right Now"?

[thegreatdivine]

According to Post Malone's manager, his new album arrives next month.

http://instagram.com/p/CcOJc3NO5oU

[Choco]

I was way more excited for Post's album before the three last songs he dropped :( I'll check it out whenever it drops tho.

[Au$tin]

Apr 11, 2022 12:16:48 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

most of his audience was perfectly fine with what he did/said, which is why his album has been doing well nonstop since it was released.

there's nothing for them to forgive.

Yup, this is my problem. He has never condemned his fans and by making his next release a Christian song, it's obvious that he's playing into that fanbase. That negates anything positive he may have done, he clearly doesn't care too much about righting his wrongs if he's actively appealing to those that didn't see a problem with what he did to begin with. He is literally pandering to those that would gleefully shout the n-word if given the chance by releasing a "woo yay God is great" track as his follow-up to the controversy.

And let's be clear, I'm not trying to sway anyone to stop supporting him or consuming his music. I legitimately don't care. But the discussion was about why some don't like seeing him be so successful with this Christian song. It rubs me the wrong way, and that's that. We don't need to make a big deal about it. No one is going to be changing their opinion because of what someone said on a music forum site. And there are a plethora of successful people in the industry who have done far worse than Wallen (Dr. Luke and Chris Brown immediately spring to mind, not to mention the years upon years of R. Kelly getting away for his wrongdoings), so however you choose to view him doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

The entire point I and others were trying to make is that it would be so much better if this celebration of diversity in genres at the top featured Christian music from wholesome musicians and was actually, well, good. There certainly isn't a shortage of good CCM out there. Wouldn't even mind seeing Lauren Daigle score another crossover hit or for Carrie Underwood to have had one of her songs from her religious album take off. Instead we got a Hobby Lobby anthem.

[fridayteenage]

Apr 11, 2022 12:57:12 GMT -5 loveless said:

On a different note lmao, Harry is headlining Coachella this Friday. No clue how much of a boost that typically provides, but I assume that would give AiW an edge over First Class going into the third week?

I remember it was fun back in the day when Taylor was touring and her album would jump up when she had a particularly big crowd, since CDs were sold on site.

I assume Coachella sells CDs on site too?

[kimberly]

Apr 11, 2022 14:12:53 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

According to Post Malone's manager, his new album arrives next month.

this is kind of off topic but why is it his manager always announcing his stuff? and sometimes his announcements don't even hold up. wouldn't it make more sense to let Post Malone break the news to his 22 million followers, instead of giving it away on Dre London's account with 417 thousand followers? 

this is like if Scooter Braun announced Positions before Ariana Grande posted the legendary "I can't wait to give u my album this month" tweet out of nowhere. would have made things way less exciting.

[SPRΞΞ]

Apr 11, 2022 14:12:53 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

According to Post Malone's manager, his new album arrives next month.

http://instagr.am/p/CcOJc3NO5oU

pretty aggressive for playing tennis, lol.

[After Minutes]

Apr 11, 2022 12:23:20 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Apr 11, 2022 11:16:58 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I didn't know the Blinding Lights simp was such a Weeknd hater

Again, the song is just starting on radio, give it some time. After Delicate's run I don't write songs off so quickly anymore, because they can chart for months before reaching a high threshold.

I’m not a Weeknd hater. I’m just being realistic with the numbers I’m seeing. You can say that OoT is just starting out on radio, but it already has 4 formats and is being passed, left and right, by songs that are equally as new and have less formats than OoT. That has to be concerning.

It has been acting as the main single for about a week, and most of the formats it has on radio were already there for over a month - it was first pushed on rhythmic I believe in early February, if not January. It seems though they're waiting for Sacrifice to completely die off before giving the song a proper push.

Other than that, it racked in a healthy 16 million views on YouTube in a week and it re-entered the Spotify charts without major playlisting. The Weeknd is headlining Coachella, so that should give it a nice streaming boost and help it gain traction.

For a single released after the album it came from dropped, it generally takes about a month for it to really start taking off, unless it had some sort of commercial presence nonstop since the album release.

[Mayman]

Yeah, plus Save Your Tears took about a month really to take off iirc. It went for adds in late 2020, but we really didn't much movement until the start of the new year.

[mms82]

Apr 11, 2022 14:31:31 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Apr 11, 2022 14:12:53 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

According to Post Malone's manager, his new album arrives next month.

this is kind of off topic but why is it his manager always announcing his stuff? and sometimes his announcements don't even hold up. wouldn't it make more sense to let Post Malone break the news to his 22 million followers, instead of giving it away on Dre London's account with 417 thousand followers? 

this is like if Scooter Braun announced Positions before Ariana Grande posted the legendary "I can't wait to give u my album this month" tweet out of nowhere. would have made things way less exciting.

I think Dre London is a little too hype and can't trust his word for sure, plus Post Malone is so clearly done with the music game. I don't see him posting anything til it's officially confirmed with a date and presale/presave link

[Youknowit]

Dre London is ridiculous...let's wait from Post / Republic.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I think it’s time to accept that Iggy isn’t getting any more hits.

[thegreatdivine]

Apr 11, 2022 14:31:31 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Apr 11, 2022 14:12:53 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

According to Post Malone's manager, his new album arrives next month.

this is kind of off topic but why is it his manager always announcing his stuff? and sometimes his announcements don't even hold up. wouldn't it make more sense to let Post Malone break the news to his 22 million followers, instead of giving it away on Dre London's account with 417 thousand followers? 

this is like if Scooter Braun announced Positions before Ariana Grande posted the legendary "I can't wait to give u my album this month" tweet out of nowhere. would have made things way less exciting.

I don't know but that's how it's always been. He's been announcing Post's singles/albums since the beginning of his career. Post doesn't seem to mind so I doubt it's a big deal to him.

[thegreatdivine]

Apr 11, 2022 15:48:35 GMT -5 mms82 said:

Apr 11, 2022 14:31:31 GMT -5 kimberly said:

this is kind of off topic but why is it his manager always announcing his stuff? and sometimes his announcements don't even hold up. wouldn't it make more sense to let Post Malone break the news to his 22 million followers, instead of giving it away on Dre London's account with 417 thousand followers? 

this is like if Scooter Braun announced Positions before Ariana Grande posted the legendary "I can't wait to give u my album this month" tweet out of nowhere. would have made things way less exciting.

I think Dre London is a little too hype and can't trust his word for sure, plus Post Malone is so clearly done with the music game. I don't see him posting anything til it's officially confirmed with a date and presale/presave link

He has no reason to lie plus he's been accurate every other time he's said anything about Post. He's been his manager since the start of his career.

He posted a clip late last month of him, Post and other executives from Republic celebrating the album because they'd just played the album for the label.

www.instagram.com/tv/CbvLaPOpXD1/

There's no reason to doubt the album will be dropping next month if he says so.

[enwhy]

My attempt to try to forecast who's ahead in the #1 race:

As It Was (Last Week):
43.8M streams, 27.2M radio, 10.3k sales 
Approx Pts: 331 + 48 + 21 = 400

As It Was (This Week):
Streaming looks to be down ~40% over last week - I'd say 25-30M is a reasonable range
Radio is pacing to be up ~33% over last week - I'd guess 35-40M
Sales...who knows - let's say 5-8k
Approx Pts: 208 + 66 + 13 = 287 (realistically, anything from 250-350 wouldn't be shocking)

First Class (This Week):
Based on numbers so far, First Class will likely just edge out AIW's debut week on Spotify...but Jack Harlow is MUCH stronger on other streaming (using Nail Tech's debut week, only ~37% of his total streams were Spotify)
Going off of that, I would be prepared for an insane streaming total...something like 60-70M streams
Radio will honestly be pretty negligible (hasn't showed up on kworb yet), so let's say like 2M
Sales...Looking at the kworb numbers, I could see this doing ~10k
Approx Pts: 491 + 4 + 20 = 515

So if you believe that Jack will do as well on Apple Music as he has in the past...this isn't even a race. First Class will have an easy #1 debut
Even if you think, hey maybe this song is more Spotify-friendly, and so maybe Jack's numbers look more like Harry's (~45M streams)...that's still ~340 points, and should be more than enough to clear Harry.

[Skibidi Bop Bop]

Do you think guys if Breakaway or Teenage Dream album was released today, it will received the same treatment as Folklore or Billie's album in Rock and Alternative charts? Or maybe as SOUR level only?

[nathanalbright]

Yeah, I think both of those albums would be treated as pop albums today just as they were then, because that is how they were framed and how they were marketed.

[firefox]

Apr 11, 2022 7:27:48 GMT -5 mms82 said:

Apr 11, 2022 7:14:24 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Contemporary Christian Music

Have there been any other big Christian hits this century other than You Say and the songs off of Jesus is King?

Oceans (Where Feet May Fail) by Hillsong United is a pretty big hit. Never did I imagine that Hillsong will have a Hot 100 entry.

[Skibidi Bop Bop]

Apr 11, 2022 17:44:55 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Yeah, I think both of those albums would be treated as pop albums today just as they were then, because that is how they were framed and how they were marketed.

It's pretty inconsistent. Considering breakaway is more rock rooted than 90% of Taylors hit in Alternative and Rock chart, 60% of 21 pilots entry or 100% of heatwaves.

[nathanalbright]

Breakway was the sophomore album of an American Idol winner and Sour is the debut album of a Disney pop princess. Thus they get treated as pop.

[Skibidi Bop Bop]

Apr 11, 2022 18:31:59 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Breakway was the sophomore album of an American Idol winner and Sour is the debut album of a Disney pop princess. Thus they get treated as pop.

But how about David Cook and Daughtry? Do they're album treated as Pop as well?