BEYONCÉ: 'act i: RENAISSANCE' Era

[schnetzka]

You know, I actually kind of don't want her to get Album of the Year at the Grammys mainly because other than releasing the album, she hasn't really done anything this era to receive the highest award of the night. She has basically done the bare minimum by releasing the album and then going silent which left a bad taste in my mouth. Whereas others who are up for the award have done a lot more. Adele for example had multiple specials and despite the controversy surrounding the original postponement of her residency, it still came through in the end and has received critical acclaim.

I just wish Beyoncé didn't feel like she was too big to still do promotional performances or sit down interviews. Or at least something that isn't a written article. I don't know, I was just expecting more from this era.

[schnetzka]

Dec 28, 2022 9:53:02 GMT -5 @deleted said:

“Done the bare minimum”, god…

an award is for the body of work that was released, in this situation here, a complex body of work that has redefined the sound of pop/house/r&b and explored samples and interpolation in a way that is unheard of in mainstream music.
Let the music speak for itself and let others explore the media on their favor.

Oh no I absolutely love the album and just wish she showed she cared about it. That's my gripe about everyone wanting it to win Album of the Year. If she would have promoted it or acted like she cared about the project past the first week, I would have been all for it. Releasing a project and then not talking about it afterwards is just weird to me. There's letting music speak for itself and then there's releasing music and never speaking about it again.

Maybe it's just me but when an artist shows a lack of interest in an era, it makes me wonder why they made the album in the first place. I miss the old days where artists showed their passion about a project they released because that seems to be a increasingly rare thing these days. I don't know if Beyoncé thinks she's too big in the industry to do that or what but it's still unfortunate.

[R.K.]

Dec 28, 2022 11:07:54 GMT -5 schnetzka said:

Dec 28, 2022 9:53:02 GMT -5 @deleted said:

“Done the bare minimum”, god…

an award is for the body of work that was released, in this situation here, a complex body of work that has redefined the sound of pop/house/r&b and explored samples and interpolation in a way that is unheard of in mainstream music.
Let the music speak for itself and let others explore the media on their favor.

Oh no I absolutely love the album and just wish she showed she cared about it. That's my gripe about everyone wanting it to win Album of the Year. If she would have promoted it or acted like she cared about the project past the first week, I would have been all for it. Releasing a project and then not talking about it afterwards is just weird to me. There's letting music speak for itself and then there's releasing music and never speaking about it again.

Maybe it's just me but when an artist shows a lack of interest in an era, it makes me wonder why they made the album in the first place. I miss the old days where artists showed their passion about a project they released because that seems to be a increasingly rare thing these days. I don't know if Beyoncé thinks she's too big in the industry to do that or what but it's still unfortunate.

What are you on about? Since when does promotional activities have to do with the quality of music? The award isn't called Promoter of the Year. Neither of your two paragraphs made a shred of sense.

Promoting a project shows how much the artist cares about commercial performances. Putting effort into actually crafting the album shows how much the artist cares about their artistry.

Not to mention, she has been putting on CLUB RENAISSANCE events all over the world. Just because she doesn't conform to the conventional method of promoting an album, doesn't mean she's doing nothing or she doesn't care. The fact that you don't think all of this is intentional shows that you know very little about Beyonce.

[schnetzka]

Dec 28, 2022 11:21:42 GMT -5 R.K. said:

Dec 28, 2022 11:07:54 GMT -5 schnetzka said:

Oh no I absolutely love the album and just wish she showed she cared about it. That's my gripe about everyone wanting it to win Album of the Year. If she would have promoted it or acted like she cared about the project past the first week, I would have been all for it. Releasing a project and then not talking about it afterwards is just weird to me. There's letting music speak for itself and then there's releasing music and never speaking about it again.

Maybe it's just me but when an artist shows a lack of interest in an era, it makes me wonder why they made the album in the first place. I miss the old days where artists showed their passion about a project they released because that seems to be a increasingly rare thing these days. I don't know if Beyoncé thinks she's too big in the industry to do that or what but it's still unfortunate.

What are you on about? Since when does promotional activities have to do with the quality of music? The award isn't called Promoter of the Year. Neither of your two paragraphs made a shred of sense.

Promoting a project shows how much the artist cares about commercial performances. Putting effort into actually crafting the album shows how much the artist cares about their artistry.

Not to mention, she has been putting on CLUB RENAISSANCE events all over the world. Just because she doesn't conform to the conventional method of promoting an album, doesn't mean she's doing nothing or she doesn't care. The fact that you don't think all of this is intentional shows that you know very little about Beyonce.

People up above were talking about what they were wanting out of this era and I was just adding what I wanted. Your response comes off as a little rude but I'll let that slide.

The quality of the album is absolutely amazing and if that is the only thing when it comes to an album being nominated and winning Album of the Year then that's great. I personally though just wanted more out of the era like Beyoncé talking about the music or performing for everyone to see.

Club Renaissance is a good idea however since it's closed off to the public, it's not very inclusive to those who couldn't get tickets. Unless somebody posts clips of the event for everyone to see (like Beyoncé herself). But I do appreciate your message because you do make a valid point that the artistry that I didn't mention. Beyoncé showed her brilliant artistry through the album and I cannot wait for the next project.

[SHOOTER]

Dec 28, 2022 11:07:54 GMT -5 schnetzka said:

Dec 28, 2022 9:53:02 GMT -5 @deleted said:

“Done the bare minimum”, god…

an award is for the body of work that was released, in this situation here, a complex body of work that has redefined the sound of pop/house/r&b and explored samples and interpolation in a way that is unheard of in mainstream music.
Let the music speak for itself and let others explore the media on their favor.

Oh no I absolutely love the album and just wish she showed she cared about it. That's my gripe about everyone wanting it to win Album of the Year. If she would have promoted it or acted like she cared about the project past the first week, I would have been all for it. Releasing a project and then not talking about it afterwards is just weird to me. There's letting music speak for itself and then there's releasing music and never speaking about it again.

Maybe it's just me but when an artist shows a lack of interest in an era, it makes me wonder why they made the album in the first place. I miss the old days where artists showed their passion about a project they released because that seems to be a increasingly rare thing these days. I don't know if Beyoncé thinks she's too big in the industry to do that or what but it's still unfortunate.

But the award is literally for Album of the Year, not Album Era/Promo Run of the Year, which means the music is supposed to speak for itself. What if something happened to her, or any artist, and that prevented them from promoting their work at all? Or what about independent artists who don't have the budget to promote their projects like major label artists do? I do understand how annoying a lack of promo can be for fans but the quality of the music isn't dictated or diminished by how much effort is put into promoting it. Apples and oranges.

[kimberly]

rare Beyoncé leak: "Never Gonna Love Again" demo from Lemonade era. definitely could see this fitting seamlessly in the "6 Inch" spot.

[Deleted]

Dec 28, 2022 9:44:58 GMT -5 schnetzka said:

You know, I actually kind of don't want her to get Album of the Year at the Grammys mainly because other than releasing the album, she hasn't really done anything this era to receive the highest award of the night. She has basically done the bare minimum by releasing the album and then going silent which left a bad taste in my mouth. Whereas others who are up for the award have done a lot more. Adele for example had multiple specials and despite the controversy surrounding the original postponement of her residency, it still came through in the end and has received critical acclaim.

I just wish Beyoncé didn't feel like she was too big to still do promotional performances or sit down interviews. Or at least something that isn't a written article. I don't know, I was just expecting more from this era.

OK, not to beat a dead horse at this point but Adele has also done "the bare miniumum" for a superstar like herself. A few radio/tv/media interviews from her house on launch week, a few tv specials and 2 music videos is hardly breaking her back for album of the year. If you want Adele to get album of the year, by your logic, you should be fine with Beyonce getting the award too.

There are better examples of female artists hustling than Adele. Adele is literally most of the time at home not giving a fuck about anything much less 30 at this point.

I get that Bey has been MIA for most of this Era but the album really is a masterpiece and regardless of her invisibility, it definitely deserves AoTY. If she doesn't win and 30 does, I'll be happy for Adele despite my distaste for 30 overall.

[schnetzka]

Jan 2, 2023 20:15:05 GMT -5 @thejokerandthequeer said:

Dec 28, 2022 9:44:58 GMT -5 schnetzka said:

You know, I actually kind of don't want her to get Album of the Year at the Grammys mainly because other than releasing the album, she hasn't really done anything this era to receive the highest award of the night. She has basically done the bare minimum by releasing the album and then going silent which left a bad taste in my mouth. Whereas others who are up for the award have done a lot more. Adele for example had multiple specials and despite the controversy surrounding the original postponement of her residency, it still came through in the end and has received critical acclaim.

I just wish Beyoncé didn't feel like she was too big to still do promotional performances or sit down interviews. Or at least something that isn't a written article. I don't know, I was just expecting more from this era.

OK, not to beat a dead horse at this point but Adele has also done "the bare miniumum" for a superstar like herself. A few radio/tv/media interviews from her house on launch week, a few tv specials and 2 music videos is hardly breaking her back for album of the year. If you want Adele to get album of the year, by your logic, you should be fine with Beyonce getting the award too.

There are better examples of female artists hustling than Adele. Adele is literally most of the time at home not giving a f**k about anything much less 30 at this point.

I get that Bey has been MIA for most of this Era but the album really is a masterpiece and regardless of her invisibility, it definitely deserves AoTY. If she doesn't win and 30 does, I'll be happy for Adele despite my distaste for 30 overall.

Lol I am feeling ganged up on. Adele definitely should have done more this year and the fiasco behind the residency definitely made me think less of her and so with all of that, yes I understand why everyone wants Beyoncé to be in the running. My original comments were not worded the right way. I hope everyone can forgive me (because it honestly feels some people were genuinely mad about my comments).

[Deleted]

Jan 2, 2023 20:38:53 GMT -5 schnetzka said:

Jan 2, 2023 20:15:05 GMT -5 @thejokerandthequeer said:

OK, not to beat a dead horse at this point but Adele has also done "the bare miniumum" for a superstar like herself. A few radio/tv/media interviews from her house on launch week, a few tv specials and 2 music videos is hardly breaking her back for album of the year. If you want Adele to get album of the year, by your logic, you should be fine with Beyonce getting the award too.

There are better examples of female artists hustling than Adele. Adele is literally most of the time at home not giving a f**k about anything much less 30 at this point.

I get that Bey has been MIA for most of this Era but the album really is a masterpiece and regardless of her invisibility, it definitely deserves AoTY. If she doesn't win and 30 does, I'll be happy for Adele despite my distaste for 30 overall.

Lol I am feeling ganged up on. Adele definitely should have done more this year and the fiasco behind the residency definitely made me think less of her and so with all of that, yes I understand why everyone wants Beyoncé to be in the running. My original comments were not worded the right way. I hope everyone can forgive me (because it honestly feels some people were genuinely mad about my comments).

I'm really sorry if I came across as harsh or mean. I don't want you to feel like you are being picked on. I genuinely do enjoy you as a poster, we just disagreed that's all.

I never want you to feel like your opinion doesn't matter or you aren't welcomed here. I am genuinely sorry you feel this way.

I apologize and perhaps we can fan girl together when Queen Shania releases her epic new album in February!

Again sorry I never want to be a bully or a jerk. Sending you a hug from cold and depressing Ontario, Canada. SHANIA4EVER <3

[SHOOTER]

Jan 2, 2023 20:38:53 GMT -5 schnetzka said:

Jan 2, 2023 20:15:05 GMT -5 @thejokerandthequeer said:

OK, not to beat a dead horse at this point but Adele has also done "the bare miniumum" for a superstar like herself. A few radio/tv/media interviews from her house on launch week, a few tv specials and 2 music videos is hardly breaking her back for album of the year. If you want Adele to get album of the year, by your logic, you should be fine with Beyonce getting the award too.

There are better examples of female artists hustling than Adele. Adele is literally most of the time at home not giving a f**k about anything much less 30 at this point.

I get that Bey has been MIA for most of this Era but the album really is a masterpiece and regardless of her invisibility, it definitely deserves AoTY. If she doesn't win and 30 does, I'll be happy for Adele despite my distaste for 30 overall.

Lol I am feeling ganged up on. Adele definitely should have done more this year and the fiasco behind the residency definitely made me think less of her and so with all of that, yes I understand why everyone wants Beyoncé to be in the running. My original comments were not worded the right way. I hope everyone can forgive me (because it honestly feels some people were genuinely mad about my comments).

I guarantee no one in here is mad at you; your opinion is valid and you have every right to express it. There are many fans on here that are passionate about their faves though so, if you vocalize the opinion, don’t be surprised if you have to defend it!



💛💛💛

[thebeyzkneez]

Personally, I think what she's doing is very clear.

BEYONCE and Lemonade were very solid albums that we all wanted to win AOTY, but Beyonce "the Machine" Knowles-Carter was literally EVERYWHERE... so much so that her constant promotion of the album could have made it hard to decipher whether the albums were actually good or the excitement was manufactured by her being everywhere. When it came time for AOTY, it didn't matter whether the album was good to her fans, we all just felt like it should win because the hype around those albums were so culturally impactful, how could they not win AOTY?

This time... the music is speaking for itself. I'm pretty sure she will start promoting the moment she *fingers crossed* wins AOTY because that's the only award that seems to matter at this point for any of us as fans, her included. The first Act is clearly about us making the music look and feel like whatever we want. We have no data to show that she is not promoting as a "power move." She's just not trying to cloud anyone's judgment of the music or the era before music's biggest night.

[Ivy Leegue™]

Purely speculation, but welcome to Pulse, newbie! I hope your stay is long and un-problematic!

[kalmanta]

I still think the release of the visuals for act I are gonna be tied in with the tour announcement in the coming weeks and maybe that was the plan all along (let’s pretend the teaser never happened 😅)

[shayonce]

Jan 3, 2023 12:27:36 GMT -5 thebeyzkneez said:

Personally, I think what she's doing is very clear.

BEYONCE and Lemonade were very solid albums that we all wanted to win AOTY, but Beyonce "the Machine" Knowles-Carter was literally EVERYWHERE... so much so that her constant promotion of the album could have made it hard to decipher whether the albums were actually good or the excitement was manufactured by her being everywhere. When it came time for AOTY, it didn't matter whether the album was good to her fans, we all just felt like it should win because the hype around those albums were so culturally impactful, how could they not win AOTY?

This time... the music is speaking for itself. I'm pretty sure she will start promoting the moment she *fingers crossed* wins AOTY because that's the only award that seems to matter at this point for any of us as fans, her included. The first Act is clearly about us making the music look and feel like whatever we want. We have no data to show that she is not promoting as a "power move." She's just not trying to cloud anyone's judgment of the music or the era before music's biggest night.

she wasn't everywhere wiyth BEYONCE and Lemonade at all. like.. Selftitle was litreally the start of no promotion era.
the difference is that she had viusuals and was on tour, so fans kinda acppected lack of promotions, contents for what it is.
thsi time there's nothing.

[divasummer]

Jan 5, 2023 2:58:24 GMT -5 shayonce said:

Jan 3, 2023 12:27:36 GMT -5 thebeyzkneez said:

Personally, I think what she's doing is very clear.

BEYONCE and Lemonade were very solid albums that we all wanted to win AOTY, but Beyonce "the Machine" Knowles-Carter was literally EVERYWHERE... so much so that her constant promotion of the album could have made it hard to decipher whether the albums were actually good or the excitement was manufactured by her being everywhere. When it came time for AOTY, it didn't matter whether the album was good to her fans, we all just felt like it should win because the hype around those albums were so culturally impactful, how could they not win AOTY?

This time... the music is speaking for itself. I'm pretty sure she will start promoting the moment she *fingers crossed* wins AOTY because that's the only award that seems to matter at this point for any of us as fans, her included. The first Act is clearly about us making the music look and feel like whatever we want. We have no data to show that she is not promoting as a "power move." She's just not trying to cloud anyone's judgment of the music or the era before music's biggest night.

she wasn't everywhere wiyth BEYONCE and Lemonade at all. like.. Selftitle was litreally the start of no promotion era.
the difference is that she had viusuals and was on tour, so fans kinda acppected lack of promotions, contents for what it is.
thsi time there's nothing.

Didn’t she perform “Drunk In Love” at the Grammys???
Am I making that up??
I felt like it was right within the first month or so of the albums release? People still watched the Grammys then.
I also remember seeing a performance of “Partition” from a concert of hers on The Soul Train Awards but I think that was well after the album was out.
“Lemonade” she performed at The Super Bowl doing “Formation”.
However she did get a lot more exclusive with her promo appearances around the self title album.
All those promo appearances through out the years proving herself on stage and now staying practically in hiding is working out for her now.
She feels like an A List Superstar you are lucky to see… lol
She does stadiums, huge private gigs and HBO specials for millions.

[jma]

Jan 6, 2023 5:27:33 GMT -5 divasummer said:

Jan 5, 2023 2:58:24 GMT -5 shayonce said:

she wasn't everywhere wiyth BEYONCE and Lemonade at all. like.. Selftitle was litreally the start of no promotion era.
the difference is that she had viusuals and was on tour, so fans kinda acppected lack of promotions, contents for what it is.
thsi time there's nothing.

Didn’t she perform “Drunk In Love” at the Grammys???
Am I making that up??
I felt like it was right within the first month or so of the albums release? People still watched the Grammys then.
I also remember seeing a performance of “Partition” from a concert of hers on The Soul Train Awards but I think that was well after the album was out.
“Lemonade” she performed at The Super Bowl doing “Formation”.
However she did get a lot more exclusive with her promo appearances around the self title album.
All those promo appearances through out the years proving herself on stage and now staying practically in hiding is working out for her now.
She feels like an A List Superstar you are lucky to see… lol
She does stadiums, huge private gigs and HBO specials for millions.

Yes she performed Drunk In Love at the 2014 Grammys

[shayonce]

Jan 6, 2023 5:27:33 GMT -5 divasummer said:

Jan 5, 2023 2:58:24 GMT -5 shayonce said:

she wasn't everywhere wiyth BEYONCE and Lemonade at all. like.. Selftitle was litreally the start of no promotion era.
the difference is that she had viusuals and was on tour, so fans kinda acppected lack of promotions, contents for what it is.
thsi time there's nothing.

Didn’t she perform “Drunk In Love” at the Grammys???
Am I making that up??
I felt like it was right within the first month or so of the albums release? People still watched the Grammys then.
I also remember seeing a performance of “Partition” from a concert of hers on The Soul Train Awards but I think that was well after the album was out.
“Lemonade” she performed at The Super Bowl doing “Formation”.
However she did get a lot more exclusive with her promo appearances around the self title album.
All those promo appearances through out the years proving herself on stage and now staying practically in hiding is working out for her now.
She feels like an A List Superstar you are lucky to see… lol
She does stadiums, huge private gigs and HBO specials for millions.

few award appearances are not being everywhere or constant promotion. that's all I'm saying.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Hm?

[kimberly]

Jan 11, 2023 19:11:21 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Hm?

nah this account will tweet ANYTHING. then go back and delete all the false "insider info" they tweeted out. 😂

I do know a lot of people are speculating Act II will be titled "RODEO" though, with country and acoustic elements and homages to Houston, so this tweet lines up with those speculations. we'll see.

[Troublemaker]

Jan 11, 2023 19:11:21 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Hm?

The aneurysms that people will have if this were true. They couldn’t stand her showing up at the CMA years ago and now this?

[bat1990]

I would be here for it. It would make sense that both albums showcase how black people contributed to every genre and not just R&B, Soul, and Hip-Hop

[thebeyzkneez]

Jan 6, 2023 13:03:15 GMT -5 shayonce said:

Jan 6, 2023 5:27:33 GMT -5 divasummer said:

Didn’t she perform “Drunk In Love” at the Grammys???
Am I making that up??
I felt like it was right within the first month or so of the albums release? People still watched the Grammys then.
I also remember seeing a performance of “Partition” from a concert of hers on The Soul Train Awards but I think that was well after the album was out.
“Lemonade” she performed at The Super Bowl doing “Formation”.
However she did get a lot more exclusive with her promo appearances around the self title album.
All those promo appearances through out the years proving herself on stage and now staying practically in hiding is working out for her now.
She feels like an A List Superstar you are lucky to see… lol
She does stadiums, huge private gigs and HBO specials for millions.

few award appearances are not being everywhere or constant promotion. that's all I'm saying.

BEYONCÉ dropped in the middle of a tour that then went on for a second leg that included the new songs. Not to mention BEYONCE dropped with a 5-part YouTube mini-series where we got an episode a week for 5 weeks. Then the Grammys. Instagram posts and more.

LEMONADE dropped literally a week before the first day of the tour, which was up until Renaissance her magnum opus. We talked about that tour all summer. She performed each song on the album at a major awards show.

If we go back to music roots, tours are the biggest form of promotion. And each of her last few albums were immediately met with tours amidst the constant rise of social media and FOMO.

Also, this is Beyonce. So she doesn’t really need to do much for the media and people (generally) to talk about it for weeks. Her not doing anything this time is proving to have an even bigger impact because it’s literally making us sit with her music and judge it by itself to determine it’s worth, which we haven’t been able to do ever. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I don’t think promotion looks like interviews for anyone anymore. Not even the up and coming artists.

[jenglisbe]

FYI the On the Run tour is now on Peacock.

[kimberly]

Soundcheck for her performance at the Atlantis The Royal grand opening in Dubai. "Spirit," "Freedom" and "Crazy in Love" are the songs heard in the below videos:

[Daenerys]

Her performance is only an hour long right? So that means probably only around 10 songs for her to perform, maybe a bit more if she does a medley.

[kimberly]

Jan 18, 2023 22:14:19 GMT -5 Daenerys said:

Her performance is only an hour long right? So that means probably only around 10 songs for her to perform, maybe a bit more if she does a medley.

Yes, the performance is rumored to be only an hour long. 

So far, fans in Dubai have reported these songs as being on the setlist:

- Crazy in Love (video proof)
- Naughty Girl
- Halo
- Drunk in Love
- Freedom (video proof)
- Spirit (video proof)

[Exclusive]

The soundcheck for “Spirit” sounds amazing.

[andrebra]

Honestly would be kind of iconic if she didn’t perform a single Renaissance song. I know we are all frustrated with the lack of acknowledgment of the album from her, but I would think the first time she’d want people to see these songs live are either the Grammy’s or on tour.

[Mike]

Yep. Nothing from Renaissance.

Act 1:
At Last
XO
Flaws and All
Ave Maria
Halo
Brown Skin Girl
Be Alive

Act 2:
Otherside
Bigger
Spirit
Freedom
I Care
Beautiful Liar

Act 3:
Crazy in Love
Countdown
Naughty Girl
Drunk in Love

Also, I know she's strapped in but this would scare the ever loving shit out of me.

[rnb]

this set list is…. a choice, but she looked gorgeous and sounds amazing like always