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If Super Freaky Girl opens at number one, which it seems to have a strong possibility of achieving, the Barbs are going be even more insufferable than they usually are

I think all stans are insufferable no matter who the artist is 😂

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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 11, 2022 12:15:44 GMT -5

If Super Freaky Girl opens at number one, which it seems to have a strong possibility of achieving, the Barbs are going be even more insufferable than they usually are

I have been saying since at least May that Billboard should get rid of sales from the Hot 100 formula to make sure that Nicki’s stans don’t manufacture another Top 10 hit.

However, it would be something if Nicki blocked As It Was from another week at #1, and then seeing the pro-Harry people on here whine about the Hot 100 formula being unfair after defending it all summer long when it benefited their song.

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Aug 11, 2022 11:49:58 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

One could comment on labels trying to pit women rappers against each other, if one wanted that sort of discourse.

I think it does tend to provide some free promotion, drive up sales, and benefit both sides. So, the label would be smart to do that. Especially if it has reason to believe Megan will come out on top (which based on recent years seems to be what the outcome might be).

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US Apple Music Daily Chart Top 100, 8/10 Wednesday
1. (=) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Free Dem 5's
2. (=) Bad Bunny & Chencho Corleone - Me Porto Bonito
3. (+1) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit
4. (+1) Future - WAIT FOR U (feat. Drake & Tems)
5. (-2) DJ Khaled - STAYING ALIVE (feat. Drake & Lil Baby)
6. (=) Drake - Jimmy Cooks (feat. 21 Savage)
7. (+1) Bad Bunny - Tití Me Preguntó
8. (-1) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Umm Hmm
9. (+3) Rod Wave - Alone
10. (-1) Beyoncé - Break My Soul

11. (-1) Beyoncé - Alien Superstar
12. (-1) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Home Ain't Home (feat. Rod Wave)
15. (-1) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - F**k Da Industry
17. (=) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - I Know
19. (-1) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Vette Motors
20. (=) Beyoncé - Cuff It

21. (=) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Lost Soul Survivor
30. (=) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Hold Your Own
31. (-2) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Kamikaze
32. (-1) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Top Sound
40. (-2) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - 7 Days
42. (-1) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - My Go To (feat. Kehlani)
50. (-4) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Stay The Same
57. (-4) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Swerving
58. (-4) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Digital
59. (-2) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Proof
69. (-4) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Slow Down
93. (-9) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Don’t Rate Me (feat. Quavo)
94. (-6) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Loner Life
98. (-11) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - The North Bleeding

23. (+2) Harry Styles - As It Was
25. (-2) Nardo Wick - Dah Dah DahDah
28. (=) Beyoncé - Church Girl
29. (+3) Drake - Sticky
33. (+3) Rod Wave - Stone Rolling
36. (-1) Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make
37. (=) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)
41. (+6) Rod Wave - By Your Side
54. (+9) Joji - Glimpse of Us
56. (=) Lizzo - About Damn Time
63. (-1) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried
68. (+4) The Weeknd - Die For You
78. (+14) Young Nudy - Nun To Do
80. (+17) Rod Wave - Cold December
81. (-5) NAV & Lil Baby - Never Sleep (feat. Travis Scott)
92. Young Nudy - Impala
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YNBA 20 songs (=)

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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 11, 2022 12:37:50 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 12:15:44 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

If Super Freaky Girl opens at number one, which it seems to have a strong possibility of achieving, the Barbs are going be even more insufferable than they usually are

I have been saying since at least May that Billboard should get rid of sales from the Hot 100 formula to make sure that Nicki’s stans don’t manufacture another Top 10 hit.

However, it would be something if Nicki blocked As It Was from another week at #1, and then seeing the pro-Harry people on here whine about the Hot 100 formula being unfair after defending it all summer long when it benefited their song.

What does the sales aspect have to do with "AIW" being #1?

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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2022 12:42:11 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 12:15:44 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

If Super Freaky Girl opens at number one, which it seems to have a strong possibility of achieving, the Barbs are going be even more insufferable than they usually are

I have been saying since at least May that Billboard should get rid of sales from the Hot 100 formula to make sure that Nicki’s stans don’t manufacture another Top 10 hit.

However, it would be something if Nicki blocked As It Was from another week at #1, and then seeing the pro-Harry people on here whine about the Hot 100 formula being unfair after defending it all summer long when it benefited their song.

Don't you think it's a bit petty to advocate for wholesale changes to a longstanding and useful chart formula simply to spite one or another fanbase that happens to depend on one particular component?

Among the many things you fail to understand when it comes to our chart discourse is that unlike you, the vast majority of commentors I read on this forum do not appear to advocate changes to the chart formula on a week-by-week basis to tactically benefit certain songs or artists over others depending on what is most favorable to their chart positions. Instead, what I read are attempts to understand the formula as it exists so as to better predict how songs are going to do, understand how songs are performing on various channels to guess their overall streaming strength and the trends as to their longevity, and so on, while ultimately cheering on some songs and artists rather than others. In general, though, what I read is a desire to understand and let the chips fall where they may rather than to make constant changes to engineer a particular outcome, as you seem repeatedly to wish to do.

In general, I think Billboard is wise to refrain from frequent changes to the formula in order to engineer particular outcomes because such behavior would greatly delegitimize Billboard as an institution that tries hard to simply record the combination of sales, airplay, and streaming for the benefit of industry figures like labels, radio stations, and the like. Your own sanity, and that of others, would likely be improved if you recognized that it is far more healthy to try to understand the formula as it exists and accept that songs will have varying strengths in different channels that lead to a given outcome on a week by week basis than trying to whine that one's favored song or artist is being thwarted and changing your thoughts on a week-by-week basis on how the charts can be jerry-rigged in order to bias a favorable result towards your own favored songs based on whatever benefits them at the time.

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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 11, 2022 12:46:57 GMT -5

One would expect that if they felt something such as the Hot 100 to be so unreliable and inaccurate, they’d find something more suitable to follow. Either way, the constant nonsensical whining by one individual who has long become insufferably will never end. I miss when Hot 100 discussions were interesting and fun and not constantly taken off course by someone who will never understand how charts work and refuses to even try.

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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 11, 2022 12:47:33 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 12:37:50 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Aug 11, 2022 12:15:44 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I have been saying since at least May that Billboard should get rid of sales from the Hot 100 formula to make sure that Nicki’s stans don’t manufacture another Top 10 hit.

However, it would be something if Nicki blocked As It Was from another week at #1, and then seeing the pro-Harry people on here whine about the Hot 100 formula being unfair after defending it all summer long when it benefited their song.

What does the sales aspect have to do with "AIW" being #1?

Sales is the metric that Nicki’s fans will use to potentially manufacture this #1.

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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 11, 2022 12:57:11 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 12:37:50 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

What does the sales aspect have to do with "AIW" being #1?

Sales is the metric that Nicki’s fans will use to potentially manufacture this #1.

Sure, but you said people would then whine about the same formula that has been benefitting "AIW" all summer long. Manufactured sales have not been benefitting "AIW" all summer, so I am not seeing your comparison.

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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 11, 2022 13:06:38 GMT -5

Sales is the metric that Nicki’s fans will use to potentially manufacture this #1.

Sure, but you said people would then whine about the same formula that has been benefitting "AIW" all summer long. Manufactured sales have not been benefitting "AIW" all summer, so I am not seeing your comparison.

The Hot 100 formula is flawed (it’s been since the beginning of 2020). AIW got several weeks at #1 it didn’t really deserve, especially when RUTH was clearly the biggest song in the country. AIW may be a 10-week #1, but when 7 of those weeks don’t top a metric, then you have to call into question the legitimacy of the formula. Even EOM, which we all whined about during its final weeks at #1, had 5 weeks at #1 on streaming, 3 on sales, and 15 weeks at #1 on radio. That looks more like a 10-week at #1 than AIW’s 2 weeks at #1 on streaming, one week on sales, and 4 on radio. But most of you look the other way because Harry is some sort of saint or something.

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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 11, 2022 13:08:17 GMT -5

Sure, but you said people would then whine about the same formula that has been benefitting "AIW" all summer long. Manufactured sales have not been benefitting "AIW" all summer, so I am not seeing your comparison.

The Hot 100 formula is flawed (it’s been since the beginning of 2020). AIW got several weeks at #1 it didn’t really deserve, especially when RUTH was clearly the biggest song in the country. AIW may be a 10-week #1, but when 7 of those weeks don’t top a metric, then you have to call into question the legitimacy of the formula. Even EOM, which we all whined about during its final weeks at #1, had 5 weeks at #1 on streaming, 3 on sales, and 15 weeks at #1 on radio. That looks more like a 10-week at #1 than AIW’s 2 weeks at #1 on streaming, one week on sales, and 4 on radio. But most of you look the other way because Harry is some sort of saint or something.

All of that is stuff you've said before, but more so it has nothing to do with Nicki and her stans.

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Post by ontopofthis on Aug 11, 2022 13:12:06 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 11:55:02 GMT -5 rainygirl said:

If Super Freaky Girl opens at number one, which it seems to have a strong possibility of achieving, the Barbs are going be even more insufferable than they usually are

I think all stans are insufferable no matter who the artist is 😂

True

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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 13:17:08 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 12:37:50 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

What does the sales aspect have to do with "AIW" being #1?

Sales is the metric that Nicki’s fans will use to potentially manufacture this #1.

I think we have seen enough results from the changes to rules in regards to sales, to see that the Barbz won't have any better luck.

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Post by mms82 on Aug 11, 2022 13:17:27 GMT -5

Sure, but you said people would then whine about the same formula that has been benefitting "AIW" all summer long. Manufactured sales have not been benefitting "AIW" all summer, so I am not seeing your comparison.

Even EOM, which we all whined about during its final weeks at #1, had 5 weeks at #1 on streaming, 3 on sales, and 15 weeks at #1 on radio. That looks more like a 10-week at #1 than AIW’s 2 weeks at #1 on streaming, one week on sales, and 4 on radio. But most of you look the other way because Harry is some sort of saint or something.

We all were whining about EOM? I think it’s worth checking back those threads - that was definitely not a universal consensus outside of your head

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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 13:19:43 GMT -5

Sure, but you said people would then whine about the same formula that has been benefitting "AIW" all summer long. Manufactured sales have not been benefitting "AIW" all summer, so I am not seeing your comparison.

The Hot 100 formula is flawed (it’s been since the beginning of 2020). AIW got several weeks at #1 it didn’t really deserve, especially when RUTH was clearly the biggest song in the country. AIW may be a 10-week #1, but when 7 of those weeks don’t top a metric, then you have to call into question the legitimacy of the formula. Even EOM, which we all whined about during its final weeks at #1, had 5 weeks at #1 on streaming, 3 on sales, and 15 weeks at #1 on radio. That looks more like a 10-week at #1 than AIW’s 2 weeks at #1 on streaming, one week on sales, and 4 on radio. But most of you look the other way because Harry is some sort of saint or something.

Actually it is the opposite, of a song doesn't top a metric for 7 weeks at #1 it means the song has broad appeal across more demographics and thus a much better indicator of what really is popular,

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Post by Gary on Aug 11, 2022 13:26:23 GMT -5

The Hot 100 formula is flawed (it’s been since the beginning of 2020).

I have been saying since at least May that Billboard should get rid of sales from the Hot 100 formula

The fact that no one has updated this thread after melody’s passing shows how sales are irrelevant and should be removed from the Hot 100 formula.

But...

Anyways, BMS is going to top sales this week, in its 2nd week at #1, so no outrage needed.

It appears that phi wants sales removed at any cost....unless it benefits a song he likes?

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Post by rainygirl on Aug 11, 2022 13:29:20 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 13:17:08 GMT -5 dragonslair said:

Sales is the metric that Nicki’s fans will use to potentially manufacture this #1.

I think we have seen enough results from the changes to rules in regards to sales, to see that the Barbz won't have any better luck.

I see your point but when the sales are 50K or more it’s still not that easy to blunt

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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 13:36:43 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 13:26:23 GMT -5 Gary said:

The Hot 100 formula is flawed (it’s been since the beginning of 2020).

I have been saying since at least May that Billboard should get rid of sales from the Hot 100 formula

The fact that no one has updated this thread after melody’s passing shows how sales are irrelevant and should be removed from the Hot 100 formula.

But...

Anyways, BMS is going to top sales this week, in its 2nd week at #1, so no outrage needed.

It appears that phi wants sales removed at any cost....unless it benefits a song he likes?

I think the outrage is taken out of context, if I recall, the outrage was in regards to how it got its first week and that a second week at #1 would or should remove it, I didn't read it as in any way an approval of sales getting the song to #1 if it does.

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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 13:39:11 GMT -5

Aug 11, 2022 13:29:20 GMT -5 rainygirl said:

Aug 11, 2022 13:17:08 GMT -5 dragonslair said:

I think we have seen enough results from the changes to rules in regards to sales, to see that the Barbz won't have any better luck.

I see your point but when the sales are 50K or more it’s still not that easy to blunt

I don't see anywhere near that many sales in today's environment for her, maybe I'm way wrong though shrug,

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