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Post by rainygirl on Aug 11, 2022 14:10:34 GMT -5
I see your point but when the sales are 50K or more it’s still not that easy to blunt I don't see anywhere near that many sales in today's environment for her, maybe I'm way wrong though shrug, I believe DWHAP was 49k ? But I could be wrong .. it’s just fun banter 😅 |
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 11, 2022 14:49:17 GMT -5
See, with Bts failing miserably, I don't see Nicki doing too well.
Also, while Phieagles is definitely wrong about the formula being flawed, he does have a point about this board thinking Harry is some sort of saint who can do wrong. Like I think aiw is a good song, but it's had enough time at #1. It's time for something else to be popular. But every time anyone says that, that person gets attacked by everyone. Yall need to chill tf out when it comes to Harry.
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 11, 2022 14:52:03 GMT -5
Also, while Phieagles is definitely wrong about the formula being flawed, he does have a point about this board thinking Harry is some sort of saint who can do wrong. Like I think aiw is a good song, but it's had enough time at #1. It's time for something else to be popular. But every time anyone says that, that person gets attacked by everyone. Yall need to chill tf out when it comes to Harry. People also need to realize there is a difference between personal opinion about a song, and what a song is doing on the charts. No matter how someone feels about "As It Was," the song is still top 10 in streams, top 2 in airplay, and has been top 10 in sales most weeks. In terms of the stats it clearly still deserves to be near the top of the Hot 100. |
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 11, 2022 14:56:26 GMT -5
Also, while Phieagles is definitely wrong about the formula being flawed, he does have a point about this board thinking Harry is some sort of saint who can do wrong. Like I think aiw is a good song, but it's had enough time at #1. It's time for something else to be popular. But every time anyone says that, that person gets attacked by everyone. Yall need to chill tf out when it comes to Harry. People also need to realize there is a difference between personal opinion about a song, and what a song is doing on the charts. No matter how someone feels about "As It Was," the song is still top 10 in streams, top 2 in airplay, and has been top 10 in sales most weeks. In terms of the stats it clearly still deserves to be near the top of the Hot 100. I'm not saying that it isn't one of the biggest songs rn, cause it is. I just think it's had its time as one of the biggest songs rn. Also yall were saying the same thing about Heat Waves and Big Energy when they were big. Just saying. |
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Post by Gary on Aug 11, 2022 14:56:52 GMT -5
See, with Bts failing miserably, I don't see Nicki doing too well. Also, while Phieagles is definitely wrong about the formula being flawed, he does have a point about this board thinking Harry is some sort of saint who can do wrong. Like I think aiw is a good song, but it's had enough time at #1. It's time for something else to be popular. But every time anyone says that, that person gets attacked by everyone. Yall need to chill tf out when it comes to Harry. Everyone has their own opinions of this song, and everyone is certainly entitled to it. The difference though with this song - for weeks on end - As It Was/formula is flawed comments have kind of gone hand in hand and variations of "As It Was sucks" or "As It Was chart run is too long"\have been on auto-repeat by the same one or two people --- long after the opinions of these/this person is known to all -- the posts stay on auto-repeat which I think creates a negative atmosphere for discussion regarding this song |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 11, 2022 14:59:56 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 08 » / « 11 »
1(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 115.09(-0.84)
2(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 97.68(+0.20)
3(=) Beyoncé & Madonna - BREAK MY SOUL (THE QUEENS REMIX) 83.10(+1.34)
4(=) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 82.14(+1.64)
5(=) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 78.28(+0.54)
6(=) Jack Harlow - First Class 76.62(-0.49)
7(=) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 73.44(+0.26)
8(=) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 56.76(-0.79)
9(+1) Latto - Big Energy 54.52(-0.84)
10(+1) Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 54.38(+0.57)
18(+1) Kane Brown - Like I Love Country Music 39.87(+1.02)
23(+2) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 36.12(+1.19)
40(+1) Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 27.39(+0.82) 42(=) Sia - Unstoppable 27.08(+0.79) 63(+6) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 18.83(+0.76)
-(-) DJ Khaled - STAYING ALIVE (feat. Drake & Lil Baby) 11.35(+1.19)
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 11, 2022 15:00:38 GMT -5
People also need to realize there is a difference between personal opinion about a song, and what a song is doing on the charts. No matter how someone feels about "As It Was," the song is still top 10 in streams, top 2 in airplay, and has been top 10 in sales most weeks. In terms of the stats it clearly still deserves to be near the top of the Hot 100. I'm not saying that it isn't one of the biggest songs rn, cause it is. I just think it's had its time as one of the biggest songs rn. Also yall were saying the same thing about Heat Waves and Big Energy when they were big. Just saying. I haven't said anything about either of those songs. |
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 15:03:06 GMT -5
See, with Bts failing miserably, I don't see Nicki doing too well. Also, while Phieagles is definitely wrong about the formula being flawed, he does have a point about this board thinking Harry is some sort of saint who can do wrong. Like I think aiw is a good song, but it's had enough time at #1. It's time for something else to be popular. But every time anyone says that, that person gets attacked by everyone. Yall need to chill tf out when it comes to Harry. Agreed, except there's nothing really out there to take over. ADT has been #1. RUTH might squeeze in on a slow week if airplay continues to grow, but it will be almost two months past it's streaming peak by then. BMS was #1, and doesn't seem to have the overall streaming demand to keep it there. when one looks at what is out there, it makes sense why AIW is still there near or at the top. |
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 11, 2022 15:04:40 GMT -5
See, with Bts failing miserably, I don't see Nicki doing too well. Also, while Phieagles is definitely wrong about the formula being flawed, he does have a point about this board thinking Harry is some sort of saint who can do wrong. Like I think aiw is a good song, but it's had enough time at #1. It's time for something else to be popular. But every time anyone says that, that person gets attacked by everyone. Yall need to chill tf out when it comes to Harry. Everyone has their own opinions of this song, and everyone is certainly entitled to it. The difference though with this song - for weeks on end - As It Was/formula is flawed comments have kind of gone hand in hand and variations of "As It Was sucks" or "As It Was chart run is too long"\have been on auto-repeat by the same one or two people --- long after the opinions of these/this person is known to all -- the posts stay on auto-repeat which I think creates a negative atmosphere for discussion regarding this song While I do think Phieagles has been annoying about it, I think everyone else is being just as annoying defending Harry like he's God. Like yall just need to chill tf out. I agree with different points on both sides when it comes to this. For example... Is it a good song? Yes Is the hot 100 formula flawed? No Is aiw popular? Yes But on the flip side... Do I want aiw to still be popular? No Do people need to stop treating Harry like he's a saint who can do no wrong? Yes Therefore imo, both sides have good points. But on the flip side, both sides are being equally as annoying as the other. |
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 11, 2022 15:06:01 GMT -5
I'm not saying that it isn't one of the biggest songs rn, cause it is. I just think it's had its time as one of the biggest songs rn. Also yall were saying the same thing about Heat Waves and Big Energy when they were big. Just saying. I haven't said anything about either of those songs. I'm just saying people in general have said the same thing about hw and be, but then when I go and say it about aiw, I get a bunch of hate. I wasn't pointing the finger at you or anyone specific. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2022 15:20:16 GMT -5
As far as I know this thread hasn't been talking--outside of a few isolated posts--about the canonization of Saint Harry of One Direction, but a fair amount of us have generally favorable opinions about him and his music. I think in general, though, that I can back your statements in general about AIW and Harry Styles and I think a lot of people would in general agree with your statements (I know of few people, for example, who think him incapable of doing wrong and some people who would be quite fierce about him).
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 11, 2022 15:44:16 GMT -5
Everyone has their own opinions of this song, and everyone is certainly entitled to it. The difference though with this song - for weeks on end - As It Was/formula is flawed comments have kind of gone hand in hand and variations of "As It Was sucks" or "As It Was chart run is too long"\have been on auto-repeat by the same one or two people --- long after the opinions of these/this person is known to all -- the posts stay on auto-repeat which I think creates a negative atmosphere for discussion regarding this song While I do think Phieagles has been annoying about it, I think everyone else is being just as annoying defending Harry like he's God. Like yall just need to chill tf out. I agree with different points on both sides when it comes to this. For example... Is it a good song? Yes Is the hot 100 formula flawed? No Is aiw popular? Yes But on the flip side... Do I want aiw to still be popular? No Do people need to stop treating Harry like he's a saint who can do no wrong? Yes Therefore imo, both sides have good points. But on the flip side, both sides are being equally as annoying as the other. Do you even know what you’re talking about? Because I don’t think anyone else does. There’s a difference between being sick of a song that’s still doing well and saying a song should stop being successful because you’re sick of it. Whether or not people are defending Harry, or any artist having an extended run at number one, isn’t going to make the song suddenly drop because you think it’s had enough time there. That’s not how charts work. It’s still challenging for number one because people haven’t had enough of the song. It’s likely people aren’t defending Harry as much as they’re defending the purpose of the chart, which is to measure what people are listening to. It’s no one else’s fault if you’re unable to separate the chart from the artist. |
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Post by lazer on Aug 11, 2022 16:08:58 GMT -5
Everyone has their own opinions of this song, and everyone is certainly entitled to it. The difference though with this song - for weeks on end - As It Was/formula is flawed comments have kind of gone hand in hand and variations of "As It Was sucks" or "As It Was chart run is too long"\have been on auto-repeat by the same one or two people --- long after the opinions of these/this person is known to all -- the posts stay on auto-repeat which I think creates a negative atmosphere for discussion regarding this song While I do think Phieagles has been annoying about it, I think everyone else is being just as annoying defending Harry like he's God. Like yall just need to chill tf out. I agree with different points on both sides when it comes to this. For example... Is it a good song? Yes Is the hot 100 formula flawed? No Is aiw popular? Yes But on the flip side... Do I want aiw to still be popular? No Do people need to stop treating Harry like he's a saint who can do no wrong? Yes Therefore imo, both sides have good points. But on the flip side, both sides are being equally as annoying as the other. The formula is a bit flawed. |
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Post by degen on Aug 11, 2022 16:37:20 GMT -5
Who is claiming Nicki is a #1 contender tho? It seems to me it’s people who don’t like her that make that expectation, only so they can shame her when she falls short.
At this point in her career, It would be wonderful if she debut anywhere in the top 10. To have that achievement 13 years into your career as a rap artist is a nice feat. Not everybody has that.
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 11, 2022 16:51:53 GMT -5
While I do think Phieagles has been annoying about it, I think everyone else is being just as annoying defending Harry like he's God. Like yall just need to chill tf out. I agree with different points on both sides when it comes to this. For example... Is it a good song? Yes Is the hot 100 formula flawed? No Is aiw popular? Yes But on the flip side... Do I want aiw to still be popular? No Do people need to stop treating Harry like he's a saint who can do no wrong? Yes Therefore imo, both sides have good points. But on the flip side, both sides are being equally as annoying as the other. Do you even know what you’re talking about? Because I don’t think anyone else does. There’s a difference between being sick of a song that’s still doing well and saying a song should stop being successful because you’re sick of it. Whether or not people are defending Harry, or any artist having an extended run at number one, isn’t going to make the song suddenly drop because you think it’s had enough time there. That’s not how charts work. It’s still challenging for number one because people haven’t had enough of the song. It’s likely people aren’t defending Harry as much as they’re defending the purpose of the chart, which is to measure what people are listening to. It’s no one else’s fault if you’re unable to separate the chart from the artist. You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not attacking the purpose of the chart in any way, shape, or form. Aiw is popular, it's number 3 rn because it's big. I just don't want it to be big. When there's a song you hate climbing the charts, you hope it doesn't become a hit, right? Same thing here, except for this time I like the song, I just am sick of it being in the top three. I rather would have Sunroof in the top three this week, but I know that aiw is in the top 3 fair and square. I never said that it wasn't, so please stop twisting my words. |
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Post by M5AGTS on Aug 11, 2022 16:54:39 GMT -5
Also, I know they're defending Harry because nobody was defending "the purpose of the chart" with Heat Waves or Big Energy.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Aug 11, 2022 17:09:22 GMT -5
ADT's hold on radio is immense, it's closest competition are still far behind it in audience (BMS, Sunroof and RUTH). It should keep #1 for the rest of August unless it starts losing a lot very quickly.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 11, 2022 17:26:26 GMT -5
All I'll say about Harry is that every single time I've held a famous person to an unrealistic standard of goodness and purity, it's eventually come out that they're indeed terrible people behind the scenes.
People always forget that these celebrities are human and they have multiple sides to themselves. Harry choosing to only show you the good sides to himself in no way means that's all there is to him. It also doesn't mean he's secretly some monster either but I'm just saying — you'd think people would have learned to stop worshipping celebrities as saints in 2022 but here we are.
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Post by firefox on Aug 11, 2022 17:34:41 GMT -5
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 17:47:12 GMT -5
Everyone has their own opinions of this song, and everyone is certainly entitled to it. The difference though with this song - for weeks on end - As It Was/formula is flawed comments have kind of gone hand in hand and variations of "As It Was sucks" or "As It Was chart run is too long"\have been on auto-repeat by the same one or two people --- long after the opinions of these/this person is known to all -- the posts stay on auto-repeat which I think creates a negative atmosphere for discussion regarding this song While I do think Phieagles has been annoying about it, I think everyone else is being just as annoying defending Harry like he's God. Like yall just need to chill tf out. I agree with different points on both sides when it comes to this. For example... Is it a good song? Yes Is the hot 100 formula flawed? No Is aiw popular? Yes But on the flip side... Do I want aiw to still be popular? No Do people need to stop treating Harry like he's a saint who can do no wrong? Yes Therefore imo, both sides have good points. But on the flip side, both sides are being equally as annoying as the other. Ow. Come. On. there has been zero talk about Harry, there's been talk about AIW as a song, people have not been droning on about how awesome and fantastic and how he can't do anything wrong as a person. Certainly not like if you dare say anything anti Drake on this forum, or Taylor or some other fan bases, |
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Post by Groovy on Aug 11, 2022 17:47:34 GMT -5
Why is Harry as a person even relevant right now, he hasn't done anything to where y'all need to go back and forth about him.
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 17:53:45 GMT -5
ADT's hold on radio is immense, it's closest competition are still far behind it in audience (BMS, Sunroof and RUTH). It should keep #1 for the rest of August unless it starts losing a lot very quickly. It's been losing over 1 AI for a few days now. At this rate, it's two weeks away from falling below AIW. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Aug 11, 2022 17:54:26 GMT -5
what the f is this Harry is a saint conversation?  |
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Post by kimberly on Aug 11, 2022 17:55:23 GMT -5
is anyone even idolizing Harry Styles in the Hot 100 threads? all I see is people complaining about him being idolized.
I think he's a bit sus tbh, but he's doing the right thing for his career by hiding most of his personality and personal life behind the "soft boy" image and extremely private persona.
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 17:56:58 GMT -5
Why is Harry as a person even relevant right now, he hasn't done anything to where y'all need to go back and forth about him. I disagree with that take. You've got the anti AIW making it about Harry, while everyone else is trying to say it's not it's about the song, |
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Post by dragonslair on Aug 11, 2022 17:58:43 GMT -5
what the f is this Harry is a saint conversation? No conversation, it's one sided. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2022 17:59:28 GMT -5
Wait, what, is this serious? We need to talk about this right now. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Aug 11, 2022 18:00:53 GMT -5
is anyone even idolizing Harry Styles in the Hot 100 threads? all I see is people complaining about him being idolized. I'm surprised and confused too. People (including me) defend As It Was, just because some poster(s) think it's not a huge hit and it didn't deserve those weeks at #1, not Harry Styles. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 11, 2022 18:01:46 GMT -5
Also, I know they're defending Harry because nobody was defending "the purpose of the chart" with Heat Waves or Big Energy. Except you’ve made it into this big deal where people are defending Harry whenever someone says they’re sick of the song. It’s possible I’m not paying attention but somehow what I’m seeing is this suggestion that the charts are wrong for “allowing” AIW to still be riding so high after such a long time. It’s fine to be sick of the song; it’s always been average at best to me, but being angry at people for countering back at those who say it needs to drop off the chart and claiming it’s some defensive stans is a bit of a reach. Eventually haters of any artist/song begin to sound tired and boring. We get it. Some people are over the song. And everyone else is over hearing about it. |
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Post by Abbaschand on Aug 11, 2022 18:04:30 GMT -5
Wait, what, is this serious? We need to talk about this right now. The guy did plan to release 5 new remix of Sunroof this Friday. |
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