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Post by Forever Winter on Dec 17, 2022 9:33:36 GMT -5
For the record, Taylor passed 3 million this week at 3.03. Bad Bunny is at 3.3 million. Triple platinum in two months? We love to see it. I wonder if she'll be #1 the final two weeks of the year of if SZA can hold on for a second week. Would really like to see her match the 10 weeks at the top that '1989' and 'Fearless' got. I think SZA will likely be #1 for at least two more weeks. The second week is locked
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Post by imbuemyblue on Dec 17, 2022 9:39:33 GMT -5
I think SZA will likely be #1 for at least two more weeks. The second week is locked I wouldn't say it's locked; if it falls 65% it would put her at 110K. That would be considered a good drop for most second weeks. Meanwhile, Taylor is at the point where she is dropping <10% and would likely be over 125K. That being said, I think 'SOS' is buzzy enough to have a better-than-average fall. Hopefully the week after next Tay returns. And if she is sharing honors with someone at the top, I'm glad it's SZA!
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Post by Forever Winter on Dec 17, 2022 10:08:51 GMT -5
I think SZA will likely be #1 for at least two more weeks. The second week is locked I wouldn't say it's locked; if it falls 65% it would put her at 110K. That would be considered a good drop for most second weeks. Meanwhile, Taylor is at the point where she is dropping <10% and would likely be over 125K. That being said, I think 'SOS' is buzzy enough to have a better-than-average fall. Hopefully the week after next Tay returns. And if she is sharing honors with someone at the top, I'm glad it's SZA! Is a 65% drop normal for a mostly streaming fueled release? She doesn't have many pure sales
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Post by imbuemyblue on Dec 17, 2022 10:43:26 GMT -5
Is a 65% drop normal for a mostly streaming fueled release? She doesn't have many pure sales I just checked and Metro Boomin' fell 44% and Drake fell 58% in their second weeks. I guess I shouldn't rely on my memory of how the market was five years ago and apply it to today! SZA very likely to take the top spot again. I stand corrected ;)
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Post by Choco on Dec 17, 2022 13:08:38 GMT -5
I don't know who needs to hear this but Midnights was never close to her best album <3.
It's good on it's own though. But RED, 1989, folklore and tbh unpopular opinion, but Lover all are better imo.
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Post by Forever Winter on Dec 17, 2022 13:22:35 GMT -5
It usually takes Swifties a few years and followups to come to terms with the fact that she released yet again, an amazing, top-tier album that's probably better. I'm certain most rankings will change in 2014-2025
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Post by imbuemyblue on Dec 17, 2022 13:30:59 GMT -5
I agree with both the subjective opinion that 'Midnights' is middle tier Taylor and also that the only reason that is even possible is because she sets an insanely high bar for herself.
It doesn't reach the heights of 'Red TV' or 'Folklore' or the first five tracks of 'Evermore'. It doesn't have a 'Getaway Car' or a 'Cruel Summer' or a 'Style' or a 'Blank Space'. But the second you say that out loud you realize how stupid you sound.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Dec 17, 2022 15:28:54 GMT -5
I’m staying firmly in my Midnights is tops mode. It’s just what I want from her at this moment in time. Mature synth pop feeds my soul. No doubt the top tier includes 1989, Red TV, and Folklore as well though.
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Post by joshtheking on Dec 17, 2022 15:43:37 GMT -5
so far for me it's looking like S: 1. Red, 2. Speak Now, 3. Folklore, 4. Midnights A: 5. 1989, 6. Lover B: 7. Evermore, 8. Reputation, 9. Fearless C: 10. Debut
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Post by kimberly on Dec 17, 2022 16:28:15 GMT -5
For me, I'd say her debut and Fearless sound like her rookie albums for sure, but beyond that, there's only one dud in her discography. Otherwise she's been evolving and improving her craft quite nicely, even though it comes with ebbs and flows, naturally. Midnights isn't a bad album, but it's far from a favorite in a catalog this stacked.
9+, Top Tier, A-range etc. 1. folklore 2. Red 3. Speak Now
Very good, B+ vibes 4. 1989 5. evermore
Epic highs and lows of high school football 6. Lover 7. Midnights
Special tier: objectively solid, but not my thing 8. Fearless
Forgettable / unforgettable for all the wrong reasons 9. Reputation 10. Taylor Swift
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Post by schnetzka on Dec 17, 2022 16:39:32 GMT -5
I'd say 'Midnights' is among my top three albums by her but nothing will top 'Reputation' for me. I know that is controversial but I love the overall electronic sound of the album.
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Post by born on Dec 17, 2022 17:34:35 GMT -5
All this time I was pretty sure that Red was my top album from her but seeing the tracklist now makes me realise that it has a lot of dead weight sadly. After a rating & ranking through different parameters, the result was this:
the elite 1. reputation (high highs, no duds) 2. 1989 (super high highs, a couple of skips here and there) 3. Red (some of the best songs i've ever heard but also a handful of duds) 4. folklore (consistent with no lows)
the 'quality deep cuts' 5. evermore (also super high highs but i kinda only use 3/5 of the album) 6. Speak Now (consistent with a couple of strong highs and a couple of lows)
sex and the city era 7. Midnights (consistent pop album that doesn't really stand out in her catalog) 8. Lover (some great pop songs here but most of the album i don't play anymore)
country girl i love you 9. Fearless (very consistent record that would shine in someone else's catalog, but not this one) 10. Taylor Swift (at least she tried)
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Post by Au$tin on Dec 17, 2022 17:45:28 GMT -5
I delivered a vinyl of folklore today. I couldn't believe Amazon really just slapped a label on it and shipped it. Thankfully it at least had plastic wrap on it, but even then... what if the recipient was a collector that wanted it to be kept in its plastic wrap? Also if it's a Christmas gift, then oops the recipient of the gift is gonna see.
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Post by matty005 on Dec 17, 2022 18:56:08 GMT -5
It usually takes Swifties a few years and followups to come to terms with the fact that she released yet again, an amazing, top-tier album that's probably better. I'm certain most rankings will change in 2014-2025 I know you're new here and you seem super sweet, but you don't have to respond to every single post on here. People love Taylor. She is still at the top of her game. It's okay if not every post from others isn't 100% glowing.
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Post by taylor on Dec 17, 2022 19:10:46 GMT -5
^^ and why are we policing how many posts people respond to lmao. We’re all entitled to respond to as many posts as we feel like.
This backseat moderation is tiring. I’m sure staff does not need help.
anyways. To join in the ranking game, I’d have to split baby hairs. It’s just too incredible a discography to have a solid list, as least for me, but I do have a #1, and that’s evermore. You girlies just don’t get it :kii: and I’m glad you don’t because it’s not fun to relate to it. But I will ride or die for that album bc it means a lot to me personally and has helped me over the past couple years and honestly been a sort of therapy lately.
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Post by Forever Winter on Dec 17, 2022 20:10:39 GMT -5
It usually takes Swifties a few years and followups to come to terms with the fact that she released yet again, an amazing, top-tier album that's probably better. I'm certain most rankings will change in 2014-2025 I know you're new here and you seem super sweet, but you don't have to respond to every single post on here. People love Taylor. She is still at the top of her game. It's okay if not every post from others isn't 100% glowing. Is there a rule or something against quoting posts? Could you maybe use the ignore button or gloss over my posts? Because with all due respect I couldn't care less if It bothers you or anyone else lmao Also, I have 163 posts during the last three years. I think i'm fine. But hey, thanks for keeping tabs on me.
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Post by matty005 on Dec 17, 2022 21:58:00 GMT -5
No, you’re more than allowed to post a defense of every little tiny bit of criticism. As a Taylor fan it doesn’t bother me and I’m Not trying to do any moderation (thanks for chipping in Taylor, always so nice to hear from you. Tell Mike Fisher hi). I’m just putting my 2 cents in. Taylor is at the top of her game still. She’s literally THE music industry right now. Someone saying the album isn’t her best isn’t the worst thing to say. But carry on and happy holidays.
And it doesn’t bother me. I’m just giving you my 2 cents. You’re more than welcome to take your own advice that you gave me and ignore me too.
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Post by Normi on Dec 18, 2022 6:02:10 GMT -5
Lmao at Jim posting his album ranking when I was hesitant on posting mine
So my relationship with Taylor has been changing all the time with Red making me a fan until ME! kinda lost me and her last 2019/2020 just not being my cup of tea (at the time) BUT Midnights changed that for me making me see her in a different light and appreciating the lyricism of hers even more Now I've been blasting her music all winter and will continue to, discovering more and more favs
My current ranking of her albums Pop Smashes (these are basically interchangeable and my order would change any day) 1. 1989 (nostalgia) 2. Reputation (crazy how much my favs have changed, I don't remember vibing so much to CIWYW and TIWWCHNT back in the day) 3. Midnights 4. Red (nostlagia 2.0)
5. Lover (The Archer?? INTHAF? IFTYE etc., How did I sleep on this for so long???) 6. folklore
7. Speak Now 8. evermore 9. Fearless 10. Taylor Swift
I just really like fun Taylor when she doesn't take herself too serious but do enjoy a big portion of her more songwriting-focused stuff too
Well now that Taylor has become my most-listened to artist on Spotify there is no more denying that I am a Swiftie, end of my short stanning
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Post by imbuemyblue on Dec 18, 2022 9:06:10 GMT -5
Oof, a Taylor ranking is just SO effing hard. Literally, everything but the debut is total gold. I really had to pull up the tracklists to decide, butI often feel like just the *feeling* an album gives you is indicative of where it lies in the ranking (I think someone else said this about 'Midnights'). Where were you in your life when this came out? What did it get you through? Who does it makes you think of? That is what is the most magical about each era, I think.
Within each category, anything could be moved around and tbh things get veeeery rough from 3-8. She's just too good for her own good!
TOTALLY UNTOUCHABLE PERFECTION
1. Folklore 2. Red TV
MASTERWORKS
3. Reputation 4. 1989 5. Evermore (primarily here for its unparalleled tracks 1-5)
HIGHLY DISTINGUISHED (with a few skips)
6. Lover 7. Midnights 8. Speak Now
SOME TRULY MASTERFUL CREATIONS (and a few more skips)
9. Fearless TV
A GOOD EFFORT WITH STRONG SINGLES
10. Debut
Just noticed that @kimberly and I have a nearly identical list, minus one glaring difference. It's so funny how two people can be so similar and diverge so sharply on just one thing! That's why I love talking about Taylor; different things speak to different people. :)
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Post by Mayman on Dec 18, 2022 9:32:26 GMT -5
1. Folklore 2. Evermore 3. Speak Now 4. Red (Taylor's Version) 5. Midnights (definitely could change for better or worse later on) 6. 1989 7. Reputation 8. Lover 9. Fearless (Taylor's Version) 10. Taylor Swift
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Post by Active Aggressive on Dec 18, 2022 14:58:54 GMT -5
1. Folklore 2. Red 3. Lover 4. Midnights 5. Evermore 6. Rep 7. 1989 8. Fearless 9. Speak Now 10. Taylor Swift
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Dec 18, 2022 15:14:15 GMT -5
1. Reputation 2. folklore 3. Midnights 4. 1989 5. evermore 6. Lover 7. Red 8. Fearless 9. Speak Now 10. Taylor Swift
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Post by Future Captain on Dec 18, 2022 15:23:18 GMT -5
Oh we're ranking Taylor's albums again? As for standard version of the albums: 1. Speak Now 2. evermore 3. Red 4. folklore 5. 1989 6. Lover 7. Midnight 8. Fearless 9. Reputation 10. Taylor Swift Taking things like bonus tracks, target exclusives, 3am tracks, etc into account: 1. evermore (I'm obsessed with Right Where You Left Me) 2. Speak Now 3. Red 4. folklore 5. Midnights (3 out of 5 of my favorite Midnights tracks arent even in the standard version of the album ) 6. 1989 7. Lover 8. Fearless 9. Reputation 10. Taylor Swift
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Post by SabrinaFan on Dec 18, 2022 15:47:22 GMT -5
Absolutely love all of these albums, even the ones that are a bit lower.
Love 1. Red 2. Midnights 3. 1989 4. Reputation
Great 5. Lover 6. Folklore 7. Speak Now
Good 8. Fearless 9. Evermore 10. Taylor Swift
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Post by schnetzka on Dec 18, 2022 16:01:18 GMT -5
1. Reputation2. 1989 3. Midnights 4. Speak Now 5. Red (TV) 6. Lover 7. Folklore 8. Fearless (TV) 9. Evermore 10. Taylor Swift
This is my current ranking but some of the middle ones change often.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 18, 2022 16:17:16 GMT -5
I haven’t heard them all but of the ones I have:
1. Lover 2 folklore 3. Evermore 4. 1989 5. Midnights 6. Red
Red has great songs but it also has a lot that doesn’t particularly interest me.
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Post by theflying on Dec 18, 2022 17:30:51 GMT -5
1. reputation - Even though technically I can’t call it flawless (why does TIWWCHNT exist? Why?), and Red is a more classic sounding album, this just had it all — It hit me at the right time, I enjoyed Taylor fighting back, I thought her doing an album with bite was interesting, and this touches my gay little heart that there’s the injustice of it not being critically acclaimed factor. I wore this record OUT. The whole album is intense, moody, catchy as hell, with such interesting production — I adore it. There are just soooooo many highs. Any song from this album could come on in a random shuffle and I would be booping the hell out of it.
2. Red TV - Red was already an incredible album but this is just her magnum opus. I mean, tracks 1-8 are some of her best work. It’s literally a 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 punch of *classic* songs. Then when you add in All Too Well 10 Minute Version, Message In A Bottle, The Very First Night, Better Man, Babe — I mean this is just an insane pop album. Nuts.
3. evermore - To me, what’s special about evermore is you feel like you truly go on a journey with this record. Maybe it’s because I was high when I first listened to it, but it feels like you go into these magical little worlds all contained within each song. Ivy is its own world. Cowboy like me is its own world. Gold rush is its own world. Dorothea and tis the damn season *really* capture you with the storytelling. The chorus of “evermore” is one of her most stunning and catchiest. If you listen to this album straight through, you just feel like you’ve been to the moon and back. The storytelling and atmosphere is so strong, and Taylor is so submerged in her role here. I think this is truly what she set out to do with folklore.
4. Midnights — Midnights is really good. For me, I think the sum of its parts is probably better than the whole. There are just a ton of really fantastic songs here. And it mostly works. But for me, even with a song like “I’m On Your Own Kid” that I recognize is super well written, I’m not really drawn to wanting to put it on repeat. What is the mood I’d be in to be in that vibe? Plenty of people adore it, but this is part of the intangible quality of why certain songs hit you. I feel the same about something like “Mastermind” — love the concept of it, and it’s catchy, but it doesn’t beg for me to repeat it. I think I just find the sonic and lyrical world-building a little disjointed. BUT, there’s just *so many songs* that are phenomenal, Classic Taylor — Lavender Haze, Maroon, Anti-Hero, Midnight Rain, Bejeweled, Karma, WCS, Paris.
5. Folklore - I think where folklore succeeds the most is it draws you in. It kind of doesn’t matter where you start — if you’re in the mood to listen to mirrorball, you’re just as likely to be in the mood to listen to invisible string or the 1. You put on one song, and suddenly, this album is all you’ve listened to for a chunk of time. Folklore succeeds because pretty much every song feels like an accessible entry into the world and vibe of the album.
6. 1989 - Massive pop classics. Come on. I’m also one of those people that thinks Wonderland, You Are In Love, and New Romantics are *absolutely* stronger than HYGTG, I Know Places, and This Love. Most of the songs are individually just so massive that I feel like anytime someone ranks an album above 1989, it becomes more about the entire forest of that particular album rather than the stunning trees found here.
7. Lover - I did play a LOT of songs on this album, a LOT. Cruel Summer? Come on. The Live In Paris versions of DBATC and Cornelia Street are two of my favorite things she’s ever done. It’s just that the overall sonic world this album builds is a little clunky and, to me, this is an album where you can feel what she tried to do but also feel how it didn’t quite reach that vision in its execution. Shoutout to It’s Nice To Have A Friend, which if it never existed no one would care, but is now getting noted for being in that MEGAN movie.
8. Fearless TV - I had never heard this album until the TV and it was actually really good! I knew it would be but I was surprised by how much I liked it. And the first 7 songs are *very* strong. Shoutout to Forever and Always for being THAT Shania bop I had no idea existed and was absolutely one of my most played songs in 2021. I also am a Today Was A Fairytale lover. Also I think You All Over Me is GORGEOUS and so catchy and I feel like VERY underrated by her fanbase. She was right to release that — it’s SO good.
Very much looking forward to a proper full listen of Speak Now with the TV.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2022 18:53:20 GMT -5
What the heck I’ll give this a whirl :)
Super Top Tier
1) Midnights (I’m dying on this hill lmao 😜) 2) Lover, 1989 3) Reputation, Speak Now
Top Tier
4) Folklore, Evermore 5) Red, Fearless
Mid Tier
6) Taylor Swift
I love them all tbh.
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Post by ampersand on Dec 18, 2022 19:00:09 GMT -5
1. Red TV 2. 1989 3. folklore 4. Speak Now 5. evermore 6. Midnights 7. reputation 8. Lover 9. Fearless TV 10. Self-titled
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 18, 2022 19:48:18 GMT -5
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