Billboard Hot 100: 10/15/2022

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Oct 3, 2022 7:45:41 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Apparently, according to Pulse, anything is a Halloween song. So that means I can say Sunroof and California Gurls, cause having a head, just a head, out of a sunroof is hella creepy, and California Gurls is a happy song, just like how trick or treating is happy. Or what about Candy Shop by 50 Cent, cause candy goes with trick or treating you know.

"Halloween" songs are subjective in most cases, and are not straightforward like Xmas songs where you know you're listening to a Xmas song by hearing words: 'Christmas', 'tree', 'mistletoe', 'holly', 'present', 'merry'...

Some songs just have Halloween vibes, dark atmosphere, scary lyrics or just "Monster", "Ghost", "Dark" in their titles to be associated with Halloween or October as a whole. That's why I don't think we should argue about Halloween songs, since people hear different things and have different definition of Halloween and scary.

also, gummy bear showing middle finger can be scary tho

[jenglisbe]

Oct 3, 2022 8:43:00 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Oct 3, 2022 7:45:41 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Apparently, according to Pulse, anything is a Halloween song. So that means I can say Sunroof and California Gurls, cause having a head, just a head, out of a sunroof is hella creepy, and California Gurls is a happy song, just like how trick or treating is happy. Or what about Candy Shop by 50 Cent, cause candy goes with trick or treating you know.

"Halloween" songs are subjective in most cases, and are not straightforward like Xmas songs where you know you're listening to a Xmas song by hearing words: 'Christmas', 'tree', 'mistletoe', 'holly', 'present', 'merry'...

Even XMas songs have become fairly broad, though; "Baby It's Cold Outside," "Hallelujah," "My Favorite Things," etc aren't inherently holiday/Christmas songs but have become part of that canon.

Some songs just have Halloween vibes, dark atmosphere, scary lyrics or just "Monster", "Ghost", "Dark" in their titles to be associated with Halloween or October as a whole. That's why I don't think we should argue about Halloween songs, since people hear different things and have different definition of Halloween and scary.

That's no different than XMas songs that are considered such because they mention "snow," "winter," "presents," etc. I think this Halloween discussion is because some of us are surprised that people are saying just because a song has a dark tone it's a Halloween song; that's not about "monster" or "ghost." Obviously someone making their own playlist can add whatever they want to it, but that's separate from whether something is generally seen as a Halloween song (and that's a relatively new discussion, certainly compared to XMas songs, so it's evolving).

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 10/02/22

1(=) Sam Smith, Kim Petras - Unholy 1,497,907 (-159,874)
2(=) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 1,377,172 (-87,576)
3(=) Bad Bunny - Tití Me Preguntó 924,233 (-129,426)
4(+1) Harry Styles - As It Was 852,232 (-119,535)
5(-1) Bad Bunny, Chencho Corleone - Me Porto Bonito 851,355 (-134,254)
6(=) d4vd - Romantic Homicide 833,773 (-30,835)
7(=) Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl 751,253 (-112,610)
8(+2) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 673,714 (-46,728)
9(=) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 645,292 (-87,459)
10(-2) David Guetta, Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 639,910 (-116,443)

Others:
11(=) Drake, 21 Savage - Jimmy Cooks 613,608 (-101,037)
12(=) Post Malone, Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) 590,423 (-98,686)
14(-1) Omar Apollo - Evergreen 581,722 (-51,023)
15(+2) The Weeknd - Die For You 561,695 (-26,149)
16(+4) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 555,052 (-8,969)
17(-3) Bad Bunny - Efecto 546,636 (-82,296)
18(+1) JVKE - golden hour 533,761 (-37,909)
19(+4) Joji - Glimpse of Us 523,406 (-25,785)
20(-5) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 522,708 (-82,564)
21(-3) Future, Drake, Tems - WAIT FOR U 509,321(-63,096)
22(=) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 485,934 (-73,597)
23(-2) Doja Cat - Vegas 483,995 (-76,363)
24(=) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 470,283 (-61,013)
26(+2) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 468,275 (-45,340)
27(+6) Steve Lacy - Static 465,473 (-11,501)
28(+2) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 454,636 (-44,638)
29(=) Lil Nas X - STAR WALKIN' 452,435 (-54,600)
30(-5) Bad Bunny - Moscow Mule 445,638 (-73,099)
31(+3) Kanye West - Bound 2 442,869 (-28,704)
32(-5) Lizzo - About Damn Time 437,843 (-77,988)
33(-2) Nicky Youre, dazy - Sunroof 430,282 (-63,719)
34(-2) Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make 421,879 (-68,184)
37(+2) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 411,463 (-19,471)
38(-2) Yung Gravy - Betty (Get Money) 396,313 (-62,942)
39(-2) Bad Bunny - Neverita 388,974 (-62,809)
40(-2) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 385,875 (-51,175)
43(+2) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 363,817 (-43,252)
44(+23) girl in red - we fell in love in october 362,785 (+28,795)
45(+1) BLACKPINK - Shut Down 358,691 (-48,131)
47(-3) Armani White - BILLIE EILISH. 357,159 (-52,118)
48(+11) Ghost - Mary On A Cross 350,875 (-10,665)
50(+3) Yeat - Talk 343,199 (-34,894)
51(-3) Grupo Frontera - No Se Va 342,592 (-61,079)
53(-3) Bizarap, Quevedo - Quevedo: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 52 333,847 (-57,807)
54(+10) Childish Gambino - Me and Your Mama 331,117 (-10,294)
55(+19) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 329,215 (+8,207)
56(-5) Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 327,055 (-56,637)
59(+3) Kanye West, Dwele - Flashing Lights 318,940 (-25,474)
60(-19) Coolio, D.V. - Gangsta's Paradise 318,471 (-103,403)
61(-4) Nardo Wick - Dah Dah DahDah 315,643 (-48,951)
63(-7) Manuel Turizo - La Bachata 311,586- 365,265 (-53,679)
64(+14) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 306,972 (-3,017)
66(-3) GloRilla, Cardi B - Tomorrow 2 302,580 (-39,991)
68(+2) Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock - Money Trees 301,976 (-28,643)
69(+7) Baby Keem - HONEST 301,783 (-14,228)
71(+22) Hotel Ugly - Shut up My Moms Calling 290,991 (-5,436)
75(+19) The Weeknd, Gesaffelstein - I Was Never There 285,308 (-9,893)
79(+13) AJR - World's Smallest Violin 281,042 (-16,006)
80(-25) Paramore - This is Why 279,476 (-91,801)
81(-1) Montell Fish - Hotel 279,258-304,364 (-25,106)
82(-3) Imagine Dragons - Bones 279,192 (-27,565)
83(-11) ROSALÍA - DESPECHÁ 278,879 (-48,936)
84(-1) Tory Lanez - The Color Violet 278,726 (-24,768)
86(+21) Beach Weather - Sex, Drugs, Etc. 276,856 (-394)
88(+16) Rosa Walton, Hallie Coggins - I Really Want to Stay At Your House 273,771 (-7,937)
89(-18) Elton John, Britney Spears - Hold Me Closer 273,137 (-54,969)
92(-26) Tate McRae - uh oh 269,866 (-67,531)
93(+24) Joji - SLOW DANCING IN THE DARK 267,617 (-2,512)
95(-4) Lil Baby - Freestyle 261,668 (-36,908)
98(-1) Charlie Puth, Jung Kook - Left and Right 259,569 (-31,237)
99(-11) Lizzo - 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready) 259,184 (-41,349)

103(-3) BLACKPINK - Pink Venom 257,189 (-28,959)
106(+18) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 256,381 (-9,187)
112(+28) Arctic Monkeys - I Wanna Be Yours 249,618 (+952)
115(-3) Rosa Linn - SNAP 245,609 (-27,683)
117(-19) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 245,369 (-43,813)
122(-20) DJ Khaled, Drake, Lil Baby - STAYING ALIVE 242,610 (-41,715)
123(+21) Tom Odell - Another Love 242,292 (-3,473)
125(-24) KAROL G, Maldy - GATÚBELA 240,305 (-45,303)
130(+22) Frank Ocean - Pink + White 236,423 (-4,576)
131(+7) Frank Ocean - Novacane 236,420 (-13,471)
136(+48) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 233,914 (+5,542)
140(-12) Tyler Hubbard - 5 Foot 9 231,661 (-31,567)
143(-68) Smino, J. Cole - 50 Proof 229,692 (-87,511)
150(+21) Mr.Kitty - After Dark 224,993 (-8,302)
153(-27) Marshmello, Khalid - Numb 222,672 (-41,024)
154(-3) Tyler Childers - Feather Indians 222,431 (-19,822)
157(+41) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 221,264 (-1,031)
159(+38) Ruth B. - Dandelions 219,990 (-3,480)
163(+18) Tyler Childers - All Your'n 217,381 (-11,454)
166(-10) Bailey Zimmerman - Fall in Love 215,139 (-23,100)
168(+20) Brent Faiyaz - ALL MINE 214,947 (-12,239)
170(+2) Yeat, Lil Uzi Vert - Flawlëss 213,688 (-19,548)
177(re-entry) mazie - dumb dumb 211,402
180(-23) Central Cee - Doja 210,987 (-26,869)
187(+8) YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Put It On Me 208,012 (-26,869)
189(+1) $uicideboy$ - Antarctica 207,560 (-18,786)
194(re-entry) Harry Styles - Matilda 206,042
198(-39) Jordan Davis - What My World Spins Around 204,832 (-32,619)
199(-33) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 203,160 (-31,193)
200(re-entry) Tyler the Creator - ARE WE STILL FRIENDS? 203,042

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 3, 2022 9:21:41 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Oct 3, 2022 8:43:00 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

"Halloween" songs are subjective in most cases, and are not straightforward like Xmas songs where you know you're listening to a Xmas song by hearing words: 'Christmas', 'tree', 'mistletoe', 'holly', 'present', 'merry'...

Even XMas songs have become fairly broad, though; "Baby It's Cold Outside," "Hallelujah," "My Favorite Things," etc aren't inherently holiday/Christmas songs but have become part of that canon.

Some songs just have Halloween vibes, dark atmosphere, scary lyrics or just "Monster", "Ghost", "Dark" in their titles to be associated with Halloween or October as a whole. That's why I don't think we should argue about Halloween songs, since people hear different things and have different definition of Halloween and scary.

That's no different than XMas songs that are considered such because they mention "snow," "winter," "presents," etc. I think this Halloween discussion is because some of us are surprised that people are saying just because a song has a dark tone it's a Halloween song; that's not about "monster" or "ghost." Obviously someone making their own playlist can add whatever they want to it, but that's separate from whether something is generally seen as a Halloween song (and that's a relatively new discussion, certainly compared to XMas songs, so it's evolving).

The difference though is that Christmas has very specific motifs and themes that can appeal to people even outside of a Western context. Like Tropical Countries still have an idea of what Christmas is like even though we don't have a Winter. There are still gift giving, there's still the food, there's still getting together with family, there's still this warmth and holiness to Christmas that we can all relate with even if we have our own unique traditions (cultural or social).

Halloween isn't as specific. The only things really universal to Halloween is horror (which could also apply at various other season) and costumes. Trick or treating is not a thing outside of suburbs. So there are no real universal traditions outside of costume parties or horror marathons and even then, it's more a social tradition rather than one you have a commitment to do every year. (also note: I said horror but I didn't specify something being scary. Cause 1.) horror doesn't need to be scary to be effective, 2.) what is scary is subjective so what people deem scary will vary, and 3.) not everyone likes being scared or at least not regularly)

[jenglisbe]

Oct 3, 2022 10:52:25 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Halloween isn't as specific. The only things really universal to Halloween is horror and costumes. Like trick or treating is not a thing outside of suburbs. So there are no real universal traditions outside of costume parties and even then, it's more a social tradition rather than one you have a commitment to do every year. (also note: I said horror but I didn't specify something being scary. Cause 1.) horror doesn't need to be scary to be effective, 2.) what is scary is subjective so what people deem scary will vary, and 3.) not everyone likes being scared or at least not regularly)

It's not less specific, then, it's actually more specific and thus fewer songs would be relevant. Halloween in terms of the U.S. (and at least some of Europe) is exactly what you said; trick-or-treating, costumes, and "scary" stuff (witches, spiders, ghosts, mummies, etc with some being more relevant in some countries than others). There are then some other things associated with Halloween and the general season, such as pumpkins and maybe apple cider or something.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

By less specific, I might in terms of universal symbols. Idk what apple cider is and I've never seen a pumpkin in real life which is why I didn't mention any of those.

Though yes, fever songs are relevant because of that, you're right

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 10 » / « 03 »

1(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 90.51(-0.44) -
2(=) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 90.20(+0.07)
3(=) Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 81.69(+0.40)
4(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 75.37(-0.14)
5(=) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 72.67(-1.00)
6(=) Doja Cat - Vegas (From the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack ELVIS) 64.80(+0.47)
7(=) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 58.05(+0.62)
8(=) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 57.58(+0.57)
9(=) Sia - Unstoppable 55.01(+0.60)
10(=) Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 47.72(+0.10)

19(+1) Elton John & Britney Spears - Hold Me Closer 38.36(+0.93)

46(+1) Jax - Victoria's Secret 25.45(+0.70)

52(+1) Lil Nas X - STAR WALKIN' (League of Legends Worlds Anthem) 23.21(+0.93)

62(+6) David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 19.41(+0.92)

77(+6) Bad Bunny - Tití Me Preguntó 16.43(+1.47) +

91(+6) Lewis Capaldi - Forget Me 13.53(+0.78)

-(-) Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy 8.86(+1.64)

-(-) GloRilla & Cardi B - Tomorrow 2 5.60(+1.71) +

[KeepDeanWeird]

Re: The Thriller to #1 - let's say it needs 225-250 for that week (depending on new releases). Obviously, streaming and whatever sales will be primary components with minimal radio.

Thriller has a structural disadvantage when it comes to streaming (and radio)- it's 6 minutes long - even the 2003 Edit is only 30 seconds shorter. Therefore it can only get half the streams per hour compared to the now-normal 3 minute (or less song) - worse if LNX releases another 2-minute track!

Using 24 hours: Thriller 240 max streams; 3 min song 480 max streams. That's significant over multiple days. No clue how the video streams matter now, but it's 14 minutes!

[M5AGTS]

Lol at aiw and mpb switching spotify spots again. I mean seriously I feel like even when they're in the 170's they'll still be doing that. Also I'm getting really impatient now for Sunroof just to get that top radio spot from aiw. It's been taking way too long.

[kimberly]

the most Halloween thing about The Weeknd is that he had a whole costume for his alter ego with the red suit, lol. I don't see how most of the songs listed relate to Halloween at all. I don't think his songs thematically fit at all, even though some do have an ominous vibe. it's more toxicity, less spooky.

"Thriller" is the supreme Halloween song precisely because there aren't that many of them. and no, "Dirty Diana" isn't one either.

anyway, check out Kim Petras' Halloween album TURN OFF THE LIGHT if you're looking for seasonal pop music:

[Gary]

Thriller based on prior year trends - not going to #1 at Halloween. The next month album reissue might help it

On the release of Thriller 25 in 2018 -- Thriller the song made it to #1 recurrent

What is a Halloween song or isn't -- won't be determined here but based on last year the big ones that rose up due to Halloween were

Thriller
Somebody's Watching Me (Rockwell)
Monster MASH
Ghostbusters (Ray Parker)
This Is Halloween (Danny Elfman)

[Music Fan]

Oct 3, 2022 11:22:33 GMT -5 kimberly said:

the most Halloween thing about The Weeknd is that he had a whole costume for his alter ego with the red suit, lol. I don't see how most of the songs listed relate to Halloween at all. I don't think his songs thematically fit at all, even though some do have an ominous vibe. it's more toxicity, less spooky.

"Thriller" is the supreme Halloween song precisely because there aren't that many of them. and no, "Dirty Diana" isn't one either.

anyway, check out Kim Petras' Halloween album TURN OFF THE LIGHT if you're looking for seasonal pop music:

Yeah, I do not think his music itself generally fits with "Halloween" music. But, the visuals of the era do.

See: The Weekend After Hours Nightmare at Universal Studios Horror Nights (which all things aside, I'm sure was extremely lucrative for him.)

[kimberly]

"CUFF IT" SZN 🔥
I didn't realize "Cool Kids" was having a resurgence. I loved that song & that Echosmith album back when it came out. They kinda fully disappeared after that era though.

[M5AGTS]

Oct 3, 2022 13:48:29 GMT -5 kimberly said:

"CUFF IT" SZN 🔥
I didn't realize "Cool Kids" was having a resurgence. I loved that song & that Echosmith album back when it came out. They kinda fully disappeared after that era though.

That's kind of funny. I was just jamming out to Cool Kids the other day. I had no idea there was a tik tok trend behind it until just now.

[enwhy]

Since 2019, Thriller has been on a pretty good run and has seen a big increase in streams. Halloween's on a Monday this year which lines up nicely for the chart week. That being said, the streams would probably need to double over 2021's levels to carry Thriller to #1. That isn't going to happen.

US Spotify streams for Thriller each year (in thousands):
Orange = Halloween Chart week
Bolded = Halloween Day

[khan]

Y'all going on and on about Thriller but I'm sitting here waiting for Spooky Scary Skeletons to finally chart.

[Limited Edition]

Thriller is a much better song than Somebody's Watching Me and also works better as a Halloween song

[KeepDeanWeird]

Thriller Michael Jackson X BTS. Drop that #1 in your *Trick* or Treat bag.

Dead Man's Party (Oingo Bongo) + Something in My House (Dead or Alive) will always lead my Halloween party playlist. SIMH is one of few songs to SIMH reference Halloween.

[kalmanta]

Oct 3, 2022 13:48:29 GMT -5 kimberly said:

"CUFF IT" SZN 🔥

If „Cuff It“ were able to hit the top 10, it‘d be the first time since Sasha Fierce that she collected multiple top 10 hits from one album. 13/14 years between the two eras

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Big ass gain for girl in red on a Sunday, wow.

“we fell in love in october” is pretty well know despite not charting anywhere. Last year’s October resurgence was noticeable, sure, but not this big. I wonder if it’ll keep chugging along or if it’ll fall back down.

I hope it can pull a dark red and debut on the Hot 100

[Envoirment]

Rina Sawayama - "Frankenstein" to become a halloween staple please.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Oct 3, 2022 11:22:33 GMT -5 kimberly said:

the most Halloween thing about The Weeknd is that he had a whole costume for his alter ego with the red suit, lol. I don't see how most of the songs listed relate to Halloween at all. I don't think his songs thematically fit at all, even though some do have an ominous vibe. it's more toxicity, less spooky.

I don't think Weeknd's music relate that much to Halloween, I just think most of the songs drem and I listed fits this season and wouldn't be out of place if played at Halloween parties or somewhere else during Halloween.  

[sheardbeard]

The Halloweeniest song there is is John Carpenter’s Halloween Theme. I’ll also give you Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells (aka, Theme from The Exorcist).

[kcdawg13]

Certain Weeknd tracks like Blinding Lights or Sacrifice are great party tracks and would work fine for Halloween, although they aren't really Halloween songs perse compared to something like Thriller.

My favorite Halloween staple is Don't Fear The Reaper, mostly for it's inclusion in the original 1978 Halloween film. As for tracks that aren't Halloween songs but I still listen to throughout the season: Cher's Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves is one of my favorite "Halloween but not Halloween tracks" because of it's circus sound and the X-File's featuring it.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Sweater Weather reached new positional peaks yesterday at both US (#13) and Global (#22) Spotify.

[M5AGTS]

Oct 3, 2022 19:46:42 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Sweater Weather reached new positional peaks yesterday at both US (#13) and Global (#22) Spotify.

Why are we having a resurgence for one of the most boring hits of 2014? If we're gonna bring back a hit from 2014 why can't it be Maps, Chandelier, or The Monster?

[Groovy]

Yes, every time I think of fall I think of maps or swinging from lights.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Oct 3, 2022 19:48:37 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Oct 3, 2022 19:46:42 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Sweater Weather reached new positional peaks yesterday at both US (#13) and Global (#22) Spotify.

Why are we having a resurgence for one of the most boring hits of 2014? If we're gonna bring back a hit from 2014 why can't it be Maps or Chandelier?

It's not a resurgence, the song has been consistently popular for the past two years, especially in late summer and fall (plus, it's a bi anthem). It has 1,7B streams (the most streamed song released in 2012) and it's almost Diamond in the US.

[ephelia]

Halloween songs on Spotify last year, on Halloween Day itself:

#1: Monster Mash
#3: Thriller
#5: Ghostbusters
#7: This Is Halloween
#12: Somebody's Watching Me
#15: Spooky, Scary Skeletons
#16: Blinding Lights
#24: Disturbia
#25: Superstition
#27: Thriller (2003)
#29: Highway To Hell
#37: Toxic
#38: bad guy
#41: Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
#45: Time Warp
#50: She Wolf

Of course, this is highly affected by what Spotify puts on their playlists, but it's still an interesting look.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Oct 3, 2022 20:30:44 GMT -5 ephelia said:

Halloween songs on Spotify last year, on Halloween Day itself:

#50: She Wolf

I forgot this was in the top 50. What a bop!