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Post by kimberly on Nov 7, 2022 15:35:21 GMT -5
Do we think the airplay switch is causing some last-minute formula tweaking? Normally we'd have a top ten by now, right? That's probably one factor. considering the sales misinformation they had earlier in the week about "Lift Me Up," too, so it might be taking longer than usual to verify everything is accurate. Hopefully we have news in the next hour and a half (before the end of work day). |
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Post by irice22 on Nov 7, 2022 15:39:39 GMT -5
They're delaying it to get clicks.
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Nov 7, 2022 15:41:34 GMT -5
Idk why youβre all talking about Oscar chances, Charli XCXβs βHot Girlβ clearly has it in the bag
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 7, 2022 15:47:20 GMT -5
Yep, either that, or possibly the race between Rihanna and Taylor is closer than expected and they're re-running the numbers, not exactly sure what's going on. A reverse βLevitatingxLeaveTheDoorOpenβ experienceβ¦ Or not and they just want clicks. |
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Post by hughster1 on Nov 7, 2022 15:49:07 GMT -5
Well let's hope it's her favor! It'd be nice to have that acknowledgement/accolade for her career. Except this award is meant to honor a specific song, not a career. Besides, she doesn't have a string of soundtrack contributions to merit an achievement acknowledgement. That said, *this* song + her vocals: definitely Oscar-worthy. A nomination is certain. Wins are political + marketing driven since Academy voters aren't musicians. I would make the case that quite a few Best Original Song Oscars over the past 40 years have been for careers, as much as, and in some cases more than, song. I think this was especially true as baby boomers constituted a greater percentage of the Academy and took the chance to reward some of their idols. Bob Dylan wrote a solid song for "Wonder Boys," but that award was as much for the chance to give an Oscar to DYLAN as it was for the song. In 1985 (for the 1984 film year), Stevie Wonder's win for the lame "I Just Called to Say I Love You" was no doubt influneced by the amazing run of songs and albums he had in the 60's and 70's. In the non-rock area, both Stephen Sondheim and Andrew Lloyd Webber won for songs (coincidentally both sung by Madonna) no one would rank among their best or most lasting, and each year there was at least one better choice on quality (ALW beat "That Thing You Do," for instance). Even Springsteen's win, absolutely a deserving one, was helped by his status as a legend even by that point. Lately they seem to have gotten away from this, and in fact the past two awards have gone to very young writer/artists. And the awards are supposed to be for the best of the year, not for career recognition. But as in every other Oscar category, they often go to the latter (just see Al Pacino's win for "Scent of a Woman" on his 8th nomination). And as far as competition for Rihanna at the Oscars: one possible nominee who will also compete is "Carolina" from "Where the Crawdads Sing", written by...Taylor Swift. So we could have another Rihanna v. Taylor race! (I think Rihanna might have the advantage - bigger hit, more Oscar-y song, and the chance to give an Oscar not only to Rihanna but also to Ryan Coogler who is a co-writer.) |
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Post by imbuemyblue on Nov 7, 2022 15:52:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been a little surprised that Caroline ended up having no Oscar buzz, but then again even Swifties don't like that song (except for me, apparently). LMU is definitely a better fit for the category and its history.
I have to disagree that those Sondheim and ALW songs aren't great though ;)
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Post by π Eloquent β’ on Nov 7, 2022 15:54:49 GMT -5
Oh Taylor is no competition for the Oscar. lol She has a tendency to attach herself to critically-panned films.
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 7, 2022 15:55:43 GMT -5
Except this award is meant to honor a specific song, not a career. Besides, she doesn't have a string of soundtrack contributions to merit an achievement acknowledgement. That said, *this* song + her vocals: definitely Oscar-worthy. A nomination is certain. Wins are political + marketing driven since Academy voters aren't musicians. I would make the case that quite a few Best Original Song Oscars over the past 40 years have been for careers, as much as, and in some cases more than, song. I think this was especially true as baby boomers constituted a greater percentage of the Academy and took the chance to reward some of their idols. Bob Dylan wrote a solid song for "Wonder Boys," but that award was as much for the chance to give an Oscar to DYLAN as it was for the song. In 1985 (for the 1984 film year), Stevie Wonder's win for the lame "I Just Called to Say I Love You" was no doubt influneced by the amazing run of songs and albums he had in the 60's and 70's. In the non-rock area, both Stephen Sondheim and Andrew Lloyd Webber won for songs (coincidentally both sung by Madonna) no one would rank among their best or most lasting, and each year there was at least one better choice on quality (ALW beat "That Thing You Do," for instance). Even Springsteen's win, absolutely a deserving one, was helped by his status as a legend even by that point. Lately they seem to have gotten away from this, and in fact the past two awards have gone to very young writer/artists. And the awards are supposed to be for the best of the year, not for career recognition. But as in every other Oscar category, they often go to the latter (just see Al Pacino's win for "Scent of a Woman" on his 8th nomination). And as far as competition for Rihanna at the Oscars: one possible nominee who will also compete is "Carolina" from "Where the Crawdads Sing", written by...Taylor Swift. So we could have another Rihanna v. Taylor race! (I think Rihanna might have the advantage - bigger hit, more Oscar-y song, and the chance to give an Oscar not only to Rihanna but also to Ryan Coogler who is a co-writer.) Speaking of, the academy giving Al Pacino the Oscar for βScent Of A Womanβ was ridiculous. Everyone knows Denzel Washington deserved it that year, for βMalcolm Xβ, or even Robert Downey Jr. in βChaplinβ. π The Oscars have a constant habit of giving out βOkay. Your performance was okay, but is for your legacyβ awards. |
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Post by Taylor. on Nov 7, 2022 15:59:05 GMT -5
Taylor seems to be putting her push behind All Too Well in the Short Film category rather than Carolina for Original Song. We'll see how that goes.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 7, 2022 16:07:39 GMT -5
They're delaying it to get clicks. People are going to engage whether itβs at 2 pm or 4 pm regardless lol. Everyone who is interested will check it out. Iβm also sure the staff donβt want to be delaying their work until late night. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 7, 2022 16:21:59 GMT -5
I wonder if the Tanya Tucker song as part of her new documentary might have a chance at being nominated for an Oscar.
I forget what else came out from the movies this year.
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Post by firefox on Nov 7, 2022 16:38:41 GMT -5
π These celebs are gullibles.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 7, 2022 16:41:06 GMT -5
π These celebs are gullibles. Break My Soul re-entry at No. 9, period π₯ |
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 7, 2022 16:41:50 GMT -5
I wonder if the Tanya Tucker song as part of her new documentary might have a chance at being nominated for an Oscar. I forget what else came out from the movies this year. That would be awesome for Tanya Tucker. It would be cool if she won just to hear the acceptance speech! I'm sure Gaga's "Hold My Hand" will get a push. I don't think it will win but the Academy loves her. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2022 16:43:38 GMT -5
I'm sure Gaga's "Hold My Hand" will get a push. I don't think it will win but the Academy loves her. I am definitely interested to see on this since the OneRepublic song was the bigger hit lol |
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Post by sheardbeard on Nov 7, 2022 16:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Nov 7, 2022 16:53:17 GMT -5
Feel so bad for SZA now...I hope she will debut in the top 10 for real.
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Post by atg on Nov 7, 2022 16:53:41 GMT -5
π These celebs are gullibles. This really actually looked legit until a genius had to sneak Break My Soul in there πβ¦ |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 7, 2022 16:59:55 GMT -5
I wonder if the Tanya Tucker song as part of her new documentary might have a chance at being nominated for an Oscar. I forget what else came out from the movies this year. That would be awesome for Tanya Tucker. It would be cool if she won just to hear the acceptance speech! I'm sure Gaga's "Hold My Hand" will get a push. I don't think it will win but the Academy loves her. Oh right lmao forgot about that. Thereβs also the score. She could be nominated in both categories perhaps? I didnβt see the movie but where in the film does Gaga and OneRepublicβs songs play? Apparently Gagaβs is during the credits but the Oscarβs are pretty picky about how songs are used in the film before making them eligible. |
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Post by M5AGTS on Nov 7, 2022 17:06:29 GMT -5
I'm getting flashbacks from Leave The Door Open vs Levitating here. What's the delay? Is it Taylor vs Riri or is it Sza?
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 7, 2022 17:15:26 GMT -5
Taylor vs rihianna is not a thing unless radio is PUSHED HARD.
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Post by joshtheking on Nov 7, 2022 17:19:16 GMT -5
π These celebs are gullibles. oh hunny...  |
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Post by joesuda on Nov 7, 2022 17:19:53 GMT -5
I'm sure Gaga's "Hold My Hand" will get a push. I don't think it will win but the Academy loves her. I am definitely interested to see on this since the OneRepublic song was the bigger hit lol I think I Ain't Worried is not eligible for Best Song Oscar due to the fact that it contains a sample and IIRC Oscars are weird about samples/it disqualifies the song. |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Nov 7, 2022 17:22:11 GMT -5
Taylor vs rihianna is not a thing unless radio is PUSHED HARD. she would need like 100M aud. impr. to get that #1, people are overestimating the radio power on the Hot 100. |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Nov 7, 2022 17:48:49 GMT -5
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Post by M5AGTS on Nov 7, 2022 18:14:12 GMT -5
The comment section in this is absolutely hilarious lolol. Everyone is coming up with different artists to blame it on lol. That's Stan Twitter for ya. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 7, 2022 18:25:33 GMT -5
The comment section in this is absolutely hilarious lolol. Everyone is coming up with different artists to blame it on lol. That's Stan Twitter for ya. Looks like the replies of every post on twitter ever except this has fewer βended (insert artist name here)β posts. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2022 18:35:01 GMT -5
I am definitely interested to see on this since the OneRepublic song was the bigger hit lol I think I Ain't Worried is not eligible for Best Song Oscar due to the fact that it contains a sample and IIRC Oscars are weird about samples/it disqualifies the song. I think that's true, but at the same time didn't "Skyfall" sort of sample the main Bond theme or something? I always wondered how that got through. |
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Nov 7, 2022 18:45:01 GMT -5
is this the first time they didn't even try giving a reason?
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 7, 2022 19:04:25 GMT -5
It doesn't look like they're trying to give a reason and of course everyone is suspicious and paranoid these days.
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