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Post by KeepDeanWeird on May 14, 2024 1:38:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if she's sitting on single #2 until the Drake/Kendrick feud blows over. She was probably anticipating a fairly quiet May with a few easy weeks at #1. Watch her drop the next video at an upcoming Friday tour date in the next month. 13. I'm sure it's totally random that ICDIWABH is Track #13 + Taylor is sitting at 12 No. 1...
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Post by Push The Button on May 15, 2024 6:19:24 GMT -5
This album is so damn good LOL
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Post by schnetzka on May 15, 2024 6:28:21 GMT -5
I haven't seen anybody else talk about it, but I really like the line "your home's really only a town you're just a guest in" from "Florida!!!".
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Post by Rhythm Nation on May 15, 2024 6:37:58 GMT -5
I’m still finding new things I like about the album every day!
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Post by justlurkingaround on May 15, 2024 7:27:56 GMT -5
1 month in and I haven’t stopped listening to this, I’ve just been shuffling it all the way through and then repeating. What a masterpiece.
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Post by gomichaelgo on May 16, 2024 17:04:17 GMT -5
Has anyone heard these “first draft phone memo” songs?
Nvm, it’s a preorder lol
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Post by Nick on May 16, 2024 17:34:13 GMT -5
I’m still finding new things I like about the album every day! Same.
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Post by thezatch on May 16, 2024 18:16:03 GMT -5
🙄 @ “voice memo variants” now. The ones for the Lover deluxe from Target were a one-and-done listen so no thanks, Blondie.
The people want The Anthology 2-disc CD or a 4-disc vinyl.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on May 16, 2024 21:21:11 GMT -5
She’s really taking a memo from Kpop Stars. Kpop acts release like 20 variants from one album. She knows her fanbase and she capitalises on that. She’s a smart businesswoman. I’m okay with buying one and will listen to any other extra songs on Spotify.
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Post by justlurkingaround on May 16, 2024 22:04:47 GMT -5
The digital versions won’t be available until tomorrow so I suppose she’s blocking Billie.
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Post by adamalterlago on May 16, 2024 22:18:58 GMT -5
As a casual fan, where the F is the full album on vinyl?! Has she or her team said anything?
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Post by andrebra on May 16, 2024 22:47:22 GMT -5
She sometimes makes it very hard to me to support her. I love her music but you cannot convince me that this is for any other reason than to block Billie. There’s a reason why none of her peers at the Grammy’s were happy when she announced this album - because she doesn’t give anyone a chance to take up their own space! It comes across as petty and is a big turnoff for me.
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Post by MissAmericana on May 16, 2024 23:11:25 GMT -5
She sometimes makes it very hard to me to support her. I love her music but you cannot convince me that this is for any other reason than to block Billie. There’s a reason why none of her peers at the Grammy’s were happy when she announced this album - because she doesn’t give anyone a chance to take up their own space! It comes across as petty and is a big turnoff for me. Agreed. This isn’t even close to her first time pulling a ridiculous gimmick like this. In 2021, she released four “digitally signed” versions of Evermore, each with very slightly different covers, to block SOUR from the #1 spot. In 2023, she released four versions of Midnights, advertised as having “exclusive behind-the-songs content”, only for them to be atrociously low quality 30-second clips, recycled from an iHeartRadio event from months prior, to block SOS from the #1 spot. Just let Billie have a single week at #1. She’s so insecure about her place in the industry (based on ICDIWABH and Clara Bow) and for what reason, exactly? She’s so frustrating.
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Post by Choco on May 16, 2024 23:57:52 GMT -5
Yeah I love her but the only version she needs to drop is the full 31 song album on physical. Anything else is not needed. This is the first time I feel the fanbase is kinda pissed tho. Very small sample but the comments on social media seem to be mostly negative.
Also when your album opens at 2.6 milli who cares about another random week at #1? Come on.
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Post by MissAmericana on May 17, 2024 0:06:50 GMT -5
I remember being pissed by the Midnights attempt in particular. In retrospect, that might’ve been the first hint of my disillusionment with her, but I just thought it was so gross she deemed her fans gullible enough to spend $20+ on two minutes of an audio recording they can find free on YouTube.
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Post by andrebra on May 17, 2024 0:22:45 GMT -5
I remember being pissed by the Midnights attempt in particular. In retrospect, that might’ve been the first hint of my disillusionment with her, but I just thought it was so gross she deemed her fans gullible enough to spend $20+ on two minutes of an audio recording they can find free on YouTube. The sad part is a significant amount of them were and still are.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 17, 2024 2:17:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm sick of this. I love her music, and I love her, but as others said, it's hard to support her at times when she does stuff like this. Literally what is the point other than chart manipulation or money greed? It's like when she decided to release her entire discography on streaming the day Witness came out. She can be so petty when she wants to be. I also realise I hate I Can Do It With A Broken Heart. The "I'm so depressed I act like it's my birthday everyday, I'm miserable and no one even knows" is just so.. idk, sounds so wrong coming from her? That isn't to say she can't be those things, she absolutely can and that isn't my argument. But when she's just selling it for money or to seem relatable, it's awkward. Sort of "let them eat cake" vibes
Also, screw her for removing The Last Great American Dynasty from the tour lol
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Post by Rhythm Nation on May 17, 2024 2:41:53 GMT -5
Girl chill. I'm a fan since 2006, never bought a variant, and this doesn't in any way change how I feel about Tay.
(Also I'm going to the Eras Tour tonight!)
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Post by born on May 17, 2024 3:11:11 GMT -5
Will it ever be enough? So greedy and capitalistic.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 17, 2024 3:37:33 GMT -5
Girl chill. I'm a fan since 2006, never bought a variant, and this doesn't in any way change how I feel about Tay. (Also I'm going to the Eras Tour tonight!) And I’ve been a casual listener since 2009 and a big fan since 2014, and it has changed how I feel about Taylor. That doesn’t make me right or you right. Just sharing our opinions on a forum for opinions Enjoy the show!
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Post by musiclife on May 17, 2024 4:15:53 GMT -5
She sometimes makes it very hard to me to support her. I love her music but you cannot convince me that this is for any other reason than to block Billie. There’s a reason why none of her peers at the Grammy’s were happy when she announced this album - because she doesn’t give anyone a chance to take up their own space! It comes across as petty and is a big turnoff for me. Maybe Billie shouldn't be trying to shade her then? And maybe Billie should practice what she preaches and only release one version? But she released multiple versions too after she made comments about multiple variants. Also maybe Billie shouldn't throw shade by saying shorter albums are better cause there isn't filler. Karma is a cat.. I hope Taylor stays #1.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 17, 2024 6:42:12 GMT -5
She sometimes makes it very hard to me to support her. I love her music but you cannot convince me that this is for any other reason than to block Billie. There’s a reason why none of her peers at the Grammy’s were happy when she announced this album - because she doesn’t give anyone a chance to take up their own space! It comes across as petty and is a big turnoff for me. Maybe Billie shouldn't be trying to shade her then? And maybe Billie should practice what she preaches and only release one version? But she released multiple versions too after she made comments about multiple variants. Also maybe Billie shouldn't throw shade by saying shorter albums are better cause there isn't filler. Karma is a cat.. I hope Taylor stays #1. This sounds like a personal vendetta. Let’s unravel this shall we?
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Post by Taylor. on May 17, 2024 7:36:32 GMT -5
Billie has done/said a few shady things (I'd rank bringing out Damon Albarn on stage to perform with her after he praised Billie but bashed Taylor saying she doesn't write her own music above the recent variant stuff), so she probably does have a bit of a grudge. Not a great look, but at the end of the day, who cares.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on May 17, 2024 8:06:29 GMT -5
I mean, Taylor’s been pretty clear on the topic. She doesn’t cater to all these vipers dressed in empath’s clothing. 🤷🏻♂️
Have I purchased a single variant of this album? No. I listen to music exclusively through Apple Music. Will I purchase one this week? Sure thing. I like Billie a lot, but she’s been throwing shade. I still enjoy both of their music regardless.
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Post by Choco on May 17, 2024 8:33:32 GMT -5
"Vipers dressed in empath's clothes", "Karma is a cat"... lmao none of these people are friends as much as they might act up when the cameras are on, these are not betrayals. Billie owes nothing to Taylor and viceversa. They only act friendly when it makes business sense (Beyoncé suddenly going to the Eras Tour film? Just when she had her own tour film coming? Sure they are "friends" now...) Anyone remember how quickly Olivia switched once she blew up?
The real issue here is Taylor flooding the market with literal shit. Power move, girl boss, sure. No one else could sell the amounts she sells. Lord knows Nicki and Travis try to, for example. But it's also why her album announcement was met with a collective groan on the Grammy stage.
Ultimately this might not be a huge issue. Maybe if she blocks Billie this will get some thinkpieces but overall no one will care. It's just kinda unneeded when your album did over 2.6m copies one week and hasn't dropped below 200k yet. I do feel bad but for the fans that are so enthralled by the phenomenon right now to buy into this. A friend just spent over 300 dollars on her webstore yesterday and minimum wage over here is still under 30 bucks so I just felt kinda worried about him tbh lol.
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Post by andrebra on May 17, 2024 8:47:28 GMT -5
I don’t care whatever “shade” her fans interpret was sent her way, it still is not a good look that she only does this when it’s to put another pop artist down (and most of the time women which is a whole other issue in itself). If you’re a woman who she feels is taking up too much space in her lane… watch out.
The vinyl variant debate is so bizarre to me because to me it’s pretty clear the difference in their vinyl output. Taylor made vinyls that had different songs which incentivized people to buy multiple versions (only to put them on streaming two hours after the album came out lmao). Billie made different color versions of the SAME album that were eco-friendly and it’s pretty much only so people can have a choice as to what color they want.
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Post by justlurkingaround on May 17, 2024 11:18:09 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t understand how having 15? variants of the same album is better for the environment than 4-5 variants of album + extra song. The same way Billie’s fans have a “choice” as to which color to get, Taylor’s fans also have a choice which version to get.
But you can’t preach loving the environment and chastising other artists when you’re committing the same/similar practices. You wanna talk the talk, then walk the walk.
Tbh, I don’t care about vinyl variants and the whole debate around it but this holier than thou attitude Billie wants to exude when she literally splashed paint on some HTE covers and then sold them as “signed,” among other practices.
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Post by dbhmr on May 17, 2024 11:45:05 GMT -5
She’s basically a findom at this point lmao. Just a ruthless, money-hungry CEO who happens to be a singer/songwriter.
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Post by musiclife on May 17, 2024 11:50:27 GMT -5
I mean, Taylor’s been pretty clear on the topic. She doesn’t cater to all these vipers dressed in empath’s clothing. 🤷🏻♂️ Have I purchased a single variant of this album? No. I listen to music exclusively through Apple Music. Will I purchase one this week? Sure thing. I like Billie a lot, but she’s been throwing shade. I still enjoy both of their music regardless. Exactly I would not care if Billie went #1 but she's shady and she's hypocritical. I also wouldn't mind if she went #1 without trashing the variants, but she has like 10 variants of her album too. Hate variants then why are you releasing them too? Lol She doesn't stay consistent.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 17, 2024 13:59:29 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t understand how having 15? variants of the same album is better for the environment than 4-5 variants of album + extra song. The same way Billie’s fans have a “choice” as to which color to get, Taylor’s fans also have a choice which version to get.
But you can’t preach loving the environment and chastising other artists when you’re committing the same/similar practices. You wanna talk the talk, then walk the walk. Tbh, I don’t care about vinyl variants and the whole debate around it but this holier than thou attitude Billie wants to exude when she literally splashed paint on some HTE covers and then sold them as “signed,” among other practices. There is a huge difference to not having songs (that we all have now anyway) from your favourite artist and a different colour cover art. I feel people are belittling the inclusion of extra songs as if it's a "so what if they're new songs?", as if people don't spend huge amounts of money to buy and leak demos and unreleased songs
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