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Post by ccchui on Apr 19, 2024 11:23:03 GMT -5
The album isn't cohesive? Hmmm. Meanwhile one of the overarching criticisms is that it all sounds too samey. lol --------- And didn't Drake and Morgan and a few others release album's with a ton of songs too? Were there complaints about their album's being so long here? Personally I think people who "take issue" with 30 Taylor tracks being released were gonna take issue with 17 Taylor tracks being released as well. If you aren't a fan her releases are likely going to ignore you clogging your feed regardless. Personally, I hope she releases a third and fourth and fifth collection to match all stages of grief and just to piss people off. π€£ Yes, people definitely complained about Drake and Morgan's albums. And I disagree, even if it is with my favorite artist, I really dread listening to long albums, and 17 vs. 31 tracks really makes a big difference. It just takes all that much more time to listen to all of them and weed them down into your own personal version/playlist of the album as you mention. Additionally, we all know that bonus tracks added on to albums tend to be a bit weaker, but we end up liking at least one or two of them, so going through all those extras to find the goodies makes it additionally cumbersome. Also, I've only listened about 12 tracks in, but does anyone else agree that Fortnight is by far the weakest track? Has me wondering why they chose it as the lead. If it had to be with Post, surely they could have come up with something better. Very Very reminiscent of the ME! situation. It will debut at #1 for sure and do at least as well as that, but with so many better tracks, I don't see it being the single with the most longevity at all.
I believe Fortnight being positioned as a track 1 will always have the advantage for Day 1 streaming since it is the beginning of the album. Everyone will listen to that first. So I think Taylor's team may want to secure a quick #1 in its first week by putting this song as a single make sense. Then they probably will observe and see which other song the public draw the most and try to get a 2nd #1 in succession quickly to create more buzz to the album which is not a bad marketing strategy.
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Post by lazer on Apr 19, 2024 11:23:05 GMT -5
I don't think the new Taylor album will have longevity in the charts. It will have an album bomb in the first day for sure but considering that it's over 31 songs and it's Taylors least radio friendly album since Evermore, only a few songs will stick around. Her overexposure might as well be another reason too.
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Post by Choco on Apr 19, 2024 11:24:04 GMT -5
Taytay really hates small artists. Imagine going from the amount of chart diversity the last two weeks and coming home to 31 tracks clogging the charts. Generally awful for everyone Yes. An artist at the top of her game should really just quit because she's dominating too much. Just like Michael Jackson had to quit after Thriller, how Madonna had to quit multiple times, etc..
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Post by fridayteenage on Apr 19, 2024 11:27:40 GMT -5
Well, a lot of people feel the second half of the album is very in the spirit of Evermore.
Not every song she releases needs to be manufactured to be a smash.
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Post by fengyu on Apr 19, 2024 11:35:48 GMT -5
United States Apple Music Top Songs | 12:32 EDT 1 NEW Taylor Swift - Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 2 NEW Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department 4 NEW Taylor Swift - My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 5 NEW Taylor Swift - So Long, London 6 NEW Taylor Swift - Down Bad 7 NEW Taylor Swift - But Daddy I Love Him 8 NEW Taylor Swift - Florida!!! (feat. Florence + the Machine) 9 NEW Taylor Swift - Fresh Out The Slammer 11 NEW Taylor Swift - Guilty as Sin? 12 NEW Taylor Swift - loml 13 NEW Taylor Swift - Whoβs Afraid of Little Old Me? 14 NEW Taylor Swift - I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can) 15 NEW Taylor Swift - I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 17 NEW Taylor Swift - The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived 18 NEW Taylor Swift - The Alchemy 20 NEW Taylor Swift - Clara Bow 35 NEW Taylor Swift - Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 57 NEW Taylor Swift - The Black Dog 60 NEW Taylor Swift - imgonnagetyouback 61 NEW Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department 70 NEW Taylor Swift - So High School 73 NEW Taylor Swift - thanK you aIMee 80 NEW Taylor Swift - The Albatross 88 NEW Taylor Swift - Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus 92 NEW Taylor Swift - My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 97 NEW Taylor Swift - Down Bad 98 NEW Taylor Swift - How Did It End?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 19, 2024 11:50:19 GMT -5
I don't think the new Taylor album will have longevity in the charts. It will have an album bomb in the first day for sure but it's Taylors least radio friendly album since Evermore, only a few songs will stick around. Her overexposure might as well be another reason too. As I said the other day: this makes me laugh because I people said similar things about Midnights. Also given we're in the era of Noah Kahan, Hozier, and Zach Bryan having longevity on the streaming charts, is it really out of the realm of possibility an album similar to evemore or folklore would have a long shelf life?
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on Apr 19, 2024 11:56:10 GMT -5
Oh. Drake put out "Push Ups"
It's on.
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Post by fengyu on Apr 19, 2024 12:01:33 GMT -5
in half a day!!
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on Apr 19, 2024 12:04:35 GMT -5
I guess that's one way to mobilize the Swifties to go for another top 10 lockout. Top 10 Lockout is officially impossible with "Push Ups" out. The real question is if "Push Ups" can take #1 or not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2024 12:05:17 GMT -5
I guess that's one way to mobilize the Swifties to go for another top 10 lockout. Top 10 Lockout is officially impossible with "Push Ups" out. The real question is if "Push Ups" can take #1 or not. Isn't Fornight aiming for 8M on US Spotify tomorrow?
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Apr 19, 2024 12:07:39 GMT -5
yeah, Drake won't be close to that #1, but he'll ruin her potential 10/10 part 2.
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Post by atg on Apr 19, 2024 12:09:34 GMT -5
I guess that's one way to mobilize the Swifties to go for another top 10 lockout. Top 10 Lockout is officially impossible with "Push Ups" out. The real question is if "Push Ups" can take #1 or not. The diss track also mentioning βthe Swiftiesβ is hilarious when it comes to this week I donβt think it will do as well. The hype for it was a lot more instantaneous when it was unofficially out but top 20 does seem easily doable.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 19, 2024 12:09:55 GMT -5
I guess that's one way to mobilize the Swifties to go for another top 10 lockout. Top 10 Lockout is officially impossible with "Push Ups" out. The real question is if "Push Ups" can take #1 or not.We've already had Taylor vs Drake for a #1 back in 2022. Anti-Hero on its second week still beat a new Drake song. She ain't losing to him with a full week.
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on Apr 19, 2024 12:11:20 GMT -5
I'm getting really tired of people referring to this like it is a random Drake song like in 2022 when he went against Anti-Hero. I'm really really getting tired of it because we have clarified so many times over that it is not about it just being some random new Drake song. Are you just gonna disregard "Like That" 3 week number 1 reign? Okay.
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Post by iHype. on Apr 19, 2024 12:17:55 GMT -5
omg. he is serious about getting revenge for her depriving him of the #1. Honestly, well played. How do you even come to this conclusion π
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Post by fridayteenage on Apr 19, 2024 12:17:58 GMT -5
Drake songs this decade, weeks in the top 2: toosie: 3 way 2 sexy: 2 what's next, wait for you, jimmy, slime, shooter: 1
life is good: 8 rich flex: 3 wants and needs, search, idgaf, girls, laugh now: 1
He's probably upset she blocked his chance at a multi-week #1 this decade. Roddy blocked him more, but I think they've collaborated before.
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Post by Music Fan on Apr 19, 2024 12:24:09 GMT -5
This isn't going to make much of a dent, if any, but Wyatt Flores' new EP is out and it's quite great. Wouldn't be a fan if I didn't at least try to get 2-3 more streams his way lololol
In regards to the Taylor week, I don't think she'll have a full Top 10. I think Drake and Hozier will ruin that for her. So she'll have 8/10.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Apr 19, 2024 12:27:31 GMT -5
I'm getting really tired of people referring to this like it is a random Drake song like in 2022 when he went against Anti-Hero. I'm really really getting tired of it because we have clarified so many times over that it is not about it just being some random new Drake song. Are you just gonna disregard "Like That" 3 week number 1 reign? Okay. Itβs a diss track 2 weeks late and has been leaked for over a week ALOT of people that wanted to hear it have heard it. The song will be even weaker than the one that was beat by Anti Hero because this is Taylor WEEK ONE. Itβs gonna be a canyon sized gap at 1. He probably stops the 10/10 But he isnβt even in the discussion for number one this week. Fortnite has airplay, a MV, and is going for damn near 10m in the US day 1 if weβre predicting based on AM.
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Post by fridayteenage on Apr 19, 2024 12:30:10 GMT -5
I don't know if people are very invested in a repeat of 10/10 when she's already done it.
Hitting new highs in sales is much more exciting.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Apr 19, 2024 12:32:17 GMT -5
It would just be another swiftie talking point lol. Very much βTold You it was wasnβt a flukeβ
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Post by Music Fan on Apr 19, 2024 12:34:40 GMT -5
I don't know if people are very invested in a repeat of 10/10 when she's already done it. Hitting new highs in sales is much more exciting. I'm sure Taylor is very invested, though.
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Post by π Eloquent β’ on Apr 19, 2024 12:35:09 GMT -5
31 songs is overwhelming but no one is forcing anyone to digest it all at once. At the end of the day, its more content for the fans. People are acting like they are put at gun point to listen to the whole project. If you're a casual listener stick to whatver singles she promotes or the 'base' album. I've listened through the whole thing twice and now I'm jumping around seeing which songs I want in my rotation. Me entire thoughts exactly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2024 12:39:12 GMT -5
I don't know if people are very invested in a repeat of 10/10 when she's already done it. Hitting new highs in sales is much more exciting. I'm sure Taylor is very invested, though. She told you this?
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Post by fridayteenage on Apr 19, 2024 12:44:30 GMT -5
I don't know if people are very invested in a repeat of 10/10 when she's already done it. Hitting new highs in sales is much more exciting. I'm sure Taylor is very invested, though. I'm sure she's way more invested in maximizing the album opening week. Sounds like you're invested though.
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Post by Music Fan on Apr 19, 2024 12:46:55 GMT -5
I'm sure Taylor is very invested, though. She told you this? I'm sure Taylor is very invested, though. I'm sure she's way more invested in maximizing the album opening week. Sounds like you're invested though. Why ya'll acting like this is a dig? Clearly we're all invested ... we're on a fucking music chart discussing the Hot 100 for the week. Chill.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 19, 2024 12:49:34 GMT -5
I guess that's one way to mobilize the Swifties to go for another top 10 lockout. Top 10 Lockout is officially impossible with "Push Ups" out. The real question is if "Push Ups" can take #1 or not. It would be a huge power win if he did though, especially given that itβs a response track. What better way to show off than to beat the biggest name in music.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2024 12:57:51 GMT -5
Drake does actually have a chance here if the casual listener responds to Fortnight the way Swifties seem to be (divisively). None of the other songs would have the official push from her theyβd need to get to #1 in that case. Now if they had gone with I Can Do It With a Broken Heart with the full lead single push this week, Drake wouldnβt stand a chance imo.
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Post by clsvltn on Apr 19, 2024 12:58:28 GMT -5
Damn, I wanted Drake to do it differently to get #1 last week... But he needed to capitalize on the buzz. If taylor wasnt out this wouldve been an easy one in the bag. It will be interesting if it comes close at all. Maybe will be our best chance to get A post remix with extra verse LOL
also, Taylor still has the music video drop tonight which could also really help as it seems to be pretty well done and filled with easter eggs
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Post by Choco on Apr 19, 2024 13:06:28 GMT -5
I'm very fine with no entire top 10 for Taylor. Let it stay a rare occurrence or then we'll eventually see Drake doing it too when he drops a studio album, for example.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 19, 2024 13:11:21 GMT -5
I'm getting really tired of people referring to this like it is a random Drake song like in 2022 when he went against Anti-Hero. I'm really really getting tired of it because we have clarified so many times over that it is not about it just being some random new Drake song. Are you just gonna disregard "Like That" 3 week number 1 reign? Okay. Like That wasnt going up against a streaming behemoth like Taylor in any of its 3 weeks. Context matters. If this was any other week, Push Ups would be an easy look for #1. But this is a week where the biggest artist in the world just dropped a new album.
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