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Post by Jack on Jun 11, 2024 15:14:31 GMT -5
I donβt think itβs pretentious to hope/expect fans of a thing talk about it with more foresight and knowledge than the general public, sorry. x
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Post by Active Aggressive on Jun 11, 2024 15:43:39 GMT -5
I guess my point more broadly is. Seasoned, interested hobbyists (if we consider Pop Music a hobby) should be better at this. Of course the industry is unpredictable, of course these things arenβt an exact science. But as with sport, or politicsβ¦βmomentumβ is about a sure of a bet as you can have. Sabrina had that last Thursday, and she has it now. Please Please Please - whether itβs to your tastes or not - is clearly a quality product. It was produced one of the most successful producers of the moment, released with an expensive video featuring one of the biggest acting break outs of last year, who also happens to be dating the artist performing it - whose label and team have, for the last two months at least, had a real shot at at making Sabrina the biggest Popstar breakout of the decade. The fact that so many people had the lack of imagination or patience to pause for a second, consider those circumstances, and listen/ analyse about an industry they spend their days listening and analysing is just a bit galling to me. People on forums and Twitter were AGOG when it recently emerged that her team were unsure which song to put out first, Please Please Please or Espresso, citing the latterβs real-time dominance as a reason for the formerβs inadequacies in the past or future. And some 72 hours later, here they are battling for number one on all global platforms. Almost as though when the stakes for an artist, team, label are as high as thisβ¦theyβve put more thought into it than the people who took half a day to conclude it was a flop/mistake/trash. It seems pretentious to me to assume that everyone who pays attention to pop music or is on this forum is going to or *should* make good predictions. The large majority of us are not industry insiders and are not claiming to have some authority over the general public. Like you said in your post, songs can connect or not connect with the gp for any variety of reasons. Just leave it or you're going to get exhausted really soon, if you haven't reached that point already. You are 1000% entitled to your feelings and opinions regarding this song without being made to feel defective in some way, as is everyone else who have listened to this song, whether it be one or one thousand times. |
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Post by haven on Jun 11, 2024 16:53:14 GMT -5
Ftr: I actually like this song, I just didn't expect it to catch on like it has.
In spite of all this, I still don't really think it's made for pop radio. Espresso is still growing on pop, and feather is dropping on HAC/AC, so perhaps pushing it there could be the move. If it gets pop spins in the meantime, all the better.
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Post by jdanton2 on Jun 11, 2024 17:18:41 GMT -5
it got 7 adds this week at pop radio.
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Post by Jack on Jun 11, 2024 17:48:27 GMT -5
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Post by Active Aggressive on Jun 11, 2024 17:54:01 GMT -5
Thanks, you MOTHERFUCKER! LOLOL jk. Seriously though, I am going to give this some more spins to see if I notice other parts of it I like. My biggest issue with it was that it seemed disjointed, on first listen, and I am so stuck on Espresso and all its goofiness that this one just didn't hit me the way I was hoping it would. |
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Post by kimberly on Jun 11, 2024 22:03:29 GMT -5
Momentum doesn't always add up to success, especially in the era of "TikTok hits." Where is Tate McRae's "Exes"? What about Gayle? Hell, we all saw what happened to Miley Cyrus and her "Flowers" follow-ups.
All I'm saying is, there was no guarantee this song would be performing this way, and its success does not make it an "objectively quality product" either. I just don't see the point in arguing about people's initial reactions and belittling their interest in pop music. None of us have a crystal ball, but it's certainly easier to say "I told you so!" after things go the way you hoped/thought they would.
It's fun to see someone finally connect after years of modest returns, and suddenly smash on the charts like this. I really do wish I liked this song more!
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Post by brod on Jun 12, 2024 4:03:34 GMT -5
Some are really trying to go out of their way to explain the success of the song. Maybe some of us just really like it. I, for one, like it even more than Espresso.
When songs do well simply do well due to the success of a previous song (anticipation) they tend to debut high and then fall off. To have it grow day after day shows people are connecting with it. I'll concede it sounds nothing like anything that's on the radio now, but that's a good thing to me (like others have said, there are hints of abba, a bit of kacey, and i even hear a little dolly in her delivery).
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 12, 2024 5:45:58 GMT -5
#1 on Global Spotify, overtaking Espresso
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Post by jdanton2 on Jun 12, 2024 6:09:05 GMT -5
since its debut late Thursday night this has 60 spins at pop radio up from 39 yesterday.
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Post by chickythelittlechicken on Jun 12, 2024 16:21:34 GMT -5
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Post by getouttamyway on Jun 13, 2024 15:08:44 GMT -5
This is okay. I prefer Espresso, but both pale in comparison to true Sabrina gems like Nonsense, On Purpose, Thumbs, Why, Almost Love, or Looking At Me.
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Post by jdanton2 on Jun 13, 2024 15:13:13 GMT -5
it shows up on the Spincrease list today with a gain of 102 at pop radio.
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Post by chickythelittlechicken on Jun 13, 2024 15:36:45 GMT -5
Oh it's coming!
Also another day of 5M+ in the US, wow.
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Post by G-Reg on Jun 13, 2024 16:07:15 GMT -5
Screaming that we're witnessing in real-time Sabrina Carpenter having one of the biggest hits of the decade with a mid-tempo ABBA country song.
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Post by haven on Jun 13, 2024 21:40:50 GMT -5
This is okay. I prefer Espresso, but both pale in comparison to true Sabrina gems like Nonsense, On Purpose, Thumbs, Why, Almost Love, or Looking At Me. There is a world in which sabrina's back catalog is boosted enough to where Looking At Me becomes a hit, or at least comes onto the streaming charts. That is a world I want to live in. |
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Post by sportytheartist on Jun 14, 2024 13:16:22 GMT -5
POP (Mock-Up):
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Post by Maximillian on Jun 14, 2024 15:05:57 GMT -5
This took a moment but it clicked and now Iβm bopping
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Post by ItsAStormOutside on Jun 14, 2024 17:50:49 GMT -5
Had no idea my local radio station was already playing this. They rarely jump on newer tracks, I guess with the song doing well on streaming and they play espresso and feather a lot it was inevitable.
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Post by chickythelittlechicken on Jun 14, 2024 19:31:00 GMT -5
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Post by johnm1120 on Jun 14, 2024 21:28:23 GMT -5
Debuts at #3 in the UK
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Post by CatSoul on Jun 15, 2024 10:21:53 GMT -5
The radio edit is so funny. "I beg you don't embarrass me, mothertrucker" There's one that says 'little sucker' now. Guess that was too close for comfort for some stations (and the trouble she's going to has to confirm a pop push). |
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Post by jdanton2 on Jun 15, 2024 16:37:17 GMT -5
The radio edit is so funny. "I beg you don't embarrass me, mothertrucker" There's one that says 'little sucker' now. Guess that was too close for comfort for some stations (and the trouble she's going to has to confirm a pop push). version released with little sucker. |
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Post by kimberly on Jun 16, 2024 1:56:04 GMT -5
the Spotify autoplay on this song is insane. here's some of us pulse users found autoplays on Spotify:
Lose Control --> Please Please Please
Beautiful Things --> Please Please Please
Espresso --> Please Please Please
Fortnight --> Please Please Please
Not Like Us --> Please Please Please
HISS --> Please Please Please
We Can't Be Friends --> Please Please Please
I Had Some Help --> Please Please Please
Million Dollar Baby --> Please Please Please
A Bar Song --> Please Please Please
Texas Hold Em --> Please Please Please
... basically every hit song from 2024 autoplays this song next. but wait, there's more:
Criminal (Fiona Apple) --> Please Please Please
A Toast To Men (Willa Ford) --> Please Please Please
Motion Sickness (Phoebe Bridgers) --> Please Please Please
Don't Stop the Music (Rihanna) --> Please Please Please
9 to 5 (Dolly Parton) --> Please Please Please
APESHIT (BeyoncΓ© & Jay Z) --> Please Please Please
Hips Don't Lie (Shakira) --> Please Please Please
TROLLZ (6ix9ine & Nicki Minaj) --> Please Please Please
Back to Black (Amy Winehouse) --> Please Please Please
LGBT (Cupcakke) --> Please Please Please
Stronger (Britney Spears) --> Please Please Please
Say My Name (Destiny's Child) --> Please Please Please
... and people are noticing. this tweet from earlier today has a lot of people agreeing to experiencing this (160k and counting):
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Post by Jack on Jun 16, 2024 5:25:18 GMT -5
Seems a bit incidental, given it's number one on pretty much every platform (including Apple Music, YouTube) in almost every major Western market globally. Auto
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Post by jred on Jun 16, 2024 11:41:11 GMT -5
the Spotify autoplay on this song is insane. here's some of us pulse users found autoplays on Spotify: Lose Control --> Please Please Please Beautiful Things --> Please Please Please Espresso --> Please Please Please Fortnight --> Please Please Please Not Like Us --> Please Please Please HISS --> Please Please Please We Can't Be Friends --> Please Please Please I Had Some Help --> Please Please Please Million Dollar Baby --> Please Please Please A Bar Song --> Please Please Please Texas Hold Em --> Please Please Please ... basically every hit song from 2024 autoplays this song next. but wait, there's more: Criminal (Fiona Apple) --> Please Please Please A Toast To Men (Willa Ford) --> Please Please Please Motion Sickness (Phoebe Bridgers) --> Please Please Please Don't Stop the Music (Rihanna) --> Please Please Please 9 to 5 (Dolly Parton) --> Please Please Please APESHIT (BeyoncΓ© & Jay Z) --> Please Please Please Hips Don't Lie (Shakira) --> Please Please Please TROLLZ (6ix9ine & Nicki Minaj) --> Please Please Please Back to Black (Amy Winehouse) --> Please Please Please LGBT (Cupcakke) --> Please Please Please Stronger (Britney Spears) --> Please Please Please Say My Name (Destiny's Child) --> Please Please Please ... and people are noticing. this tweet from earlier today has a lot of people agreeing to experiencing this (160k and counting): prefacing this with the fact that i love this song and think it's one of the best pop hits of the year already . . . . . . this feels pretty wild. what is even the crossover audience with some of these? espresso (obviously), fortnight, wcbf probably have some decent overlap with this. but what person willingly listening to a 6ix9ine song in 2024 is going to seek out sabrina carpenter next? not an entirely exclusive issue to this song either, obviously. people have been complaining about similar issues for months, but it does feel like it's gotten a lot worse recently? |
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Post by haven on Jun 16, 2024 14:29:21 GMT -5
I'm happy it's sabrina getting the special treatment, but it's definitely a bit outrageous the wide range of songs this'll play after. She can live with 2 million streams a day and a huge social media following, it's going to be bad for her reputation with the GP if the label keeps buying autoplay like this. She's clearly already organically popular!
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Jun 16, 2024 16:02:55 GMT -5
Well, depending on the week pans out, maybe it wonβt matter if she misses the #1 this week:
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Jun 16, 2024 16:28:09 GMT -5
I played Espresso a lot (and Fast Times too), so it wasn't really strange to me that PPP automatically plays, but when my friend who basically hates everything modern and popular (and never heard of Sabrina) complained about it...idk π€·ββοΈ
Still don't get the song, it's kinda boring to me, but I'd happy to see Sabrina at #1.
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Post by jdanton2 on Jun 16, 2024 16:42:51 GMT -5
100M on Spotify.
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