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Post by Juan Carlos on Jul 8, 2024 10:34:17 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=341825Meanwhile, this week will also see the release of Eminem's hotly anticipated The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce), which is projected to bow on the subsequent week's chart at 300k-350k. Is there anything Tay can do to hold off the rap god's new Shady/Aftermath/Interscope set? We don't know, but we look forward to finding out.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 13, 2024 5:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by musiclife on Jul 13, 2024 10:39:53 GMT -5
He has no physicals right? 63 million if he keeps up that trend is probably like 115-130k. Right?
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Post by theycallmedualian on Jul 13, 2024 10:42:49 GMT -5
He has no physicals right? 63 million if he keeps up that trend is probably like 115-130k. Right? he did 27 million streams on US spotify, which translates to around 150-175k SEAs depending on his AM performance and midweek hold. and yea, his physicals ship in october. |
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Post by seak05 on Jul 13, 2024 11:03:07 GMT -5
He should have some digital album sales, but think he's looking more in the 200k range then 300k. Will be very interesting to see if Taylor has anything in reserve to try to push him. For a variety of reasons, including the number 13, I suspect she would give a lot to get this 13th straight week
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 13, 2024 11:43:56 GMT -5
Oh, well, if he is sitting at 175k - 200k....."baby let the games begin" lol
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Post by musiclife on Jul 13, 2024 11:45:10 GMT -5
Whatever it is she has planned *if she has something planned* it has to be something big.
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Post by Positive Tension on Jul 13, 2024 15:32:16 GMT -5
Admittedly I don't know much about how the charts work, but wouldn't it have made more sense for Eminem to get the biggest first week possible, rather than delaying physical sales? I would expect the album to be front-loaded anyway, so it doesn't seem to make sense to play the long game?
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Post by iHype. on Jul 13, 2024 15:40:14 GMT -5
Admittedly I don't know much about how the charts work, but wouldn't it have made more sense for Eminem to get the biggest first week possible, rather than delaying physical sales? I would expect the album to be front-loaded anyway, so it doesn't seem to make sense to play the long game? Rap artists usually release without physicals because they don’t sell much pure anyways. He is obviously an outlier to most rap artists in pure sales, but also releasing without physicals allows you to work on the album and make edits/changes essentially all the way until the day before. Perhaps some artists feel comfortable with the idea they now do not have to finish an album 2-3 months prior to release then just settle on everything with no going back in order to have Vinyls/CDs ready. Katy for example already announced her release date of September, has Vinyls ready for preorder, and the tracklist is essentially finalized. However the lead single has been largely panned and people are disappointed with the collaborative choices. She theoretically could’ve benefitted from not finalizing everything so early on before she could get initial feedback to make edits & changes prior to the release. |
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Post by musiclife on Jul 13, 2024 16:00:37 GMT -5
Didn't Miley do like 25 million US first day? What was her debut numbers again?
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Post by think pink. on Jul 13, 2024 16:08:19 GMT -5
Admittedly I don't know much about how the charts work, but wouldn't it have made more sense for Eminem to get the biggest first week possible, rather than delaying physical sales? I would expect the album to be front-loaded anyway, so it doesn't seem to make sense to play the long game? Rap artists usually release without physicals because they don’t sell much pure anyways. He is obviously an outlier to most rap artists in pure sales, but also releasing without physicals allows you to work on the album and make edits/changes essentially all the way until the day before. Perhaps some artists feel comfortable with the idea they now do not have to finish an album 2-3 months prior to release then just settle on everything with no going back in order to have Vinyls/CDs ready. Katy for example already announced her release date of September, has Vinyls ready for preorder, and the tracklist is essentially finalized. However the lead single has been largely panned and people are disappointed with the collaborative choices. She theoretically could’ve benefitted from not finalizing everything so early on before she could get initial feedback to make edits & changes prior to the release. Eminem is also very paranoid about his songs/albums leaking ever since the debacle that happened with his 3rd and 4th albums. I think that was the major reasoning behind not having physicals first week. |
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Post by Choco on Jul 13, 2024 17:45:24 GMT -5
Yeah if the numbers keep trending down for Eminem I can Taylor Nation dropping TTPD Sped Up Version.
Honestly I'd be more than OK with that. Eminem hasn't dropped a good song in a decade, let alone a decent album.
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Post by WolfSpear on Jul 13, 2024 18:45:32 GMT -5
Eminem is a legend. He will tie Barbra Streisand, Bruce Springsteen and Kanye with 11 number one albums.
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Post by musiclife on Jul 13, 2024 21:14:03 GMT -5
No official projection yet. I've noticed the last 12 weeks they haven't been posting projections the day after releases. With the exception of Zach snd Gracie. Maybe this means Eminem's numbers are lower than previously thought.
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Post by Mayman on Jul 13, 2024 21:24:17 GMT -5
I think the fact that Taylor didn't do anything to start the week off like she did with Billie means she may not be going for #1 this week. I really think if she ever does drop the Anthology vinyl she will give it a few weeks for pre-order as well.
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Post by theycallmedualian on Jul 13, 2024 21:36:45 GMT -5
I think the fact that Taylor didn't do anything to start the week off like she did with Billie means she may not be going for #1 this week. I really think if she ever does drop the Anthology vinyl she will give it a few weeks for pre-order as well. if she sees Em is only gonna be 50-70k up from TTPD then she will be pushing for it for sure. this is why i think HDD hasnt been posting saturday early predictions lately. maybe they dont wanna be part of the causes of other artists getting blocked i guess. Mayman there is no reason for pre-orders aside from gathering bigger first week numbers which is pointless at this stage. if she sold and shipped 60k CDs on a Tuesday then she can block Eminem on a whim with Disc 2 physicals. |
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Post by clsvltn on Jul 13, 2024 22:08:30 GMT -5
He is doing 300-350k ... she won't be doing 250k+ there is no chance she will be anywhere near him
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Post by 85la on Jul 13, 2024 22:20:37 GMT -5
He has no physicals right? 63 million if he keeps up that trend is probably like 115-130k. Right? he did 27 million streams on US spotify, which translates to around 150-175k SEAs depending on his AM performance and midweek hold. and yea, his physicals ship in october. Wait so how the hell did his projections balloon way up to 300-350k? |
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Post by theycallmedualian on Jul 13, 2024 22:41:55 GMT -5
he did 27 million streams on US spotify, which translates to around 150-175k SEAs depending on his AM performance and midweek hold. and yea, his physicals ship in october. Wait so how the hell did his projections balloon way up to 300-350k? The 300-350k figure was thrown out there on HDD’s *last week* article regarding Zach Bryan’s numbers. it obviously was just a random wild guess not based on anything, other than Em’s last project’s numbers, and the fact that his lead single debuted decrntky big this time. We now know his SEA wasn’t that great and he ain’t got any physicals shipping this week. I doubt he’ll be touching 200k |
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Post by Mayman on Jul 13, 2024 22:51:32 GMT -5
I think the fact that Taylor didn't do anything to start the week off like she did with Billie means she may not be going for #1 this week. I really think if she ever does drop the Anthology vinyl she will give it a few weeks for pre-order as well. if she sees Em is only gonna be 50-70k up from TTPD then she will be pushing for it for sure. this is why i think HDD hasnt been posting saturday early predictions lately. maybe they dont wanna be part of the causes of other artists getting blocked i guess. Mayman there is no reason for pre-orders aside from gathering bigger first week numbers which is pointless at this stage. if she sold and shipped 60k CDs on a Tuesday then she can block Eminem on a whim with Disc 2 physicals. She could probably get another 250k+ week from vinyl alone if she shipped all of the Anthology ones at the same time. Although I guess if she wanted to extend its run at #1 she could do like 30k each week for like 6 months. All of them would sell out. |
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Post by theycallmedualian on Jul 14, 2024 0:20:12 GMT -5
if she sees Em is only gonna be 50-70k up from TTPD then she will be pushing for it for sure. this is why i think HDD hasnt been posting saturday early predictions lately. maybe they dont wanna be part of the causes of other artists getting blocked i guess. Mayman there is no reason for pre-orders aside from gathering bigger first week numbers which is pointless at this stage. if she sold and shipped 60k CDs on a Tuesday then she can block Eminem on a whim with Disc 2 physicals. She could probably get another 250k+ week from vinyl alone if she shipped all of the Anthology ones at the same time. Although I guess if she wanted to extend its run at #1 she could do like 30k each week for like 6 months. All of them would sell out. youre unware of the trick she did on day 1 of TTPD's release, she actually put signed CDs on sales, held them back all the way till billie's release week (so for more than a month!) before shipping them. she could do this again with disc2 physicals and we know swifities would still be fine with it  |
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Post by musiclife on Jul 14, 2024 1:37:56 GMT -5
Wait so how the hell did his projections balloon way up to 300-350k? The 300-350k figure was thrown out there on HDD’s *last week* article regarding Zach Bryan’s numbers. it obviously was just a random wild guess not based on anything, other than Em’s last project’s numbers, and the fact that his lead single debuted decrntky big this time. We now know his SEA wasn’t that great and he ain’t got any physicals shipping this week. I doubt he’ll be touching 200k I don't see him touching 200k either. Itunes makes very little difference in sales. I say he is probably at the 130-150k mark right now. |
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Post by balletgirlmom on Jul 14, 2024 4:56:42 GMT -5
Eminem, Taylor??? Eminem, Taylor??? Eminem, Taylor???
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Post by theycallmedualian on Jul 14, 2024 10:37:32 GMT -5
The 300-350k figure was thrown out there on HDD’s *last week* article regarding Zach Bryan’s numbers. it obviously was just a random wild guess not based on anything, other than Em’s last project’s numbers, and the fact that his lead single debuted decrntky big this time. We now know his SEA wasn’t that great and he ain’t got any physicals shipping this week. I doubt he’ll be touching 200k I don't see him touching 200k either. Itunes makes very little difference in sales. I say he is probably at the 130-150k mark right now. he suffered a ~45% drop on US spotify today, i guess he is leaning towards 130k more than 170k. all taylor has to do is sit down and take a few hours to sign another ~70k CDs and she'll have it in the bag |
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Post by Choco on Jul 14, 2024 11:20:22 GMT -5
Kinda wanna see Taylor do it this time only because Eminem's gonna be pissed.
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Post by musiclife on Jul 14, 2024 13:47:06 GMT -5
I would loveeee if Taylor beat him lol
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Post by clsvltn on Jul 14, 2024 17:59:58 GMT -5
Are these numbers taking into account the digital copies he sold on his website? He offered 2 different digital exclusives over the course of 2 weeks or so with different bonus tracks.
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Post by think pink. on Jul 14, 2024 19:00:53 GMT -5
Kinda wanna see Taylor do it this time only because Eminem's gonna be pissed. What would give you that impression? He hasn't cared about charts in years and doesn't talk numbers. Doesn't play any of the chart manipulation tactics, is still making songs the traditional long way with 3 verses and a bridge, and doesn't promote his albums at all outside of music videos. And didn't even have physicals ready for the first week when he has a fanbase that buys his music to double his sales even further. He's like, one of the few artists left releasing music in the most organic way lol. |
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on Jul 14, 2024 19:15:42 GMT -5
Are these numbers taking into account the digital copies he sold on his website? He offered 2 different digital exclusives over the course of 2 weeks or so with different bonus tracks. Salient point. That was digital so it definitely counts. I bought both of those pre-orders and was emailed my downloads yesterday I believe it was, if not late Friday. I really wonder if that is being factored in. Em fans are pretty dedicated too! |
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jul 14, 2024 20:06:38 GMT -5
Are these numbers taking into account the digital copies he sold on his website? He offered 2 different digital exclusives over the course of 2 weeks or so with different bonus tracks. Salient point. That was digital so it definitely counts. I bought both of those pre-orders and was emailed my downloads yesterday I believe it was, if not late Friday. I really wonder if that is being factored in. Em fans are pretty dedicated too! I can’t imagine digital sales are going to count for more than 30-50k. So even if he does 50k digital and 150k SPS Taylor would only need to move an extra 80k to pass him. No way they didn’t have something up their sleeves to make that happen with such a HUGE run this is going on. She hasn’t held any punches thus far for the last three months, I can’t imagine she’s going to make an exception for Eminem |
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