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Post by Eloqueen™ on Sept 14, 2024 19:16:59 GMT -5
Woooooaaaah there, let's calm down a bit. lol I mean, it’s a distinct possibility on streaming atp. Radio, probably not, but I also can’t see them not getting fully on board in the long run. Well it's got a long hill to climb with "Shallow" sitting at 2.5 Billion as far as streaming is concerned, but it's reaching to think this will be bigger than "Bad Romance", "Poker Face" or a few other of her absolutely gargantuan songs imo. lol It would have to explode even further from here and maintain for quite a while to reach those heights!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 14, 2024 19:55:59 GMT -5
It could happen, it could not. Nothing wrong with being hopeful. It sounds like a song that could be huge over time. (I'd love it if it were!)
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Post by bat1990 on Sept 14, 2024 20:29:50 GMT -5
I know GaGa isn't a main pop girl like Sabrina, Chappell, and Charli have been all summer, but why not try having two songs out at once? Radio has shown it will bite if the public support is there and LG7's single is probably WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY different than this.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Sept 14, 2024 20:47:36 GMT -5
Yeah if anything the LG7 single could benefit from this being so successful. I'm sure they're very different as well. And it sounds like this is attached to Bruno's album.
What I find weirder is all of this happening alongside the Joker movie/awards season, her album especially. She's usually ALL in for movie promo. Maybe she saw the writing on the wall...
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Post by arturo52311 on Sept 14, 2024 21:23:28 GMT -5
i'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but i'm confused abt why people are surprised this one is performing so well ? (a vibe i got from early on in this thread so this isn't just about some of the recent posts). last i checked, bruno mars is still a massive name, with his last single lead single (as part of silk sonic yes but im guessing 90% of the public saw it as just bruno) debuting at #1 and having some solid legs / smoking out the window also having a solid top 10 run, not to mention i've heard both in public multiple times in the years since. meanwhile gaga is maybe a bit more of a legacy act, but there seems to be a lot of affection towards her from the public and her star is enough that she's scored two #1 hits in the last 5 years combine this with the fact that this is arguably a bit more radio friendly then anything bruno did in the silk sonic era and the lyrics probably resonate with a lot of people rn for various reasons and yeah. this is abt how i thought this would do. if anything i could've seen this debuting even higher, altho obv a #3 debut is still excellent by any measure Leave the Door Open debuted at #4
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Post by #brayden on Sept 14, 2024 21:28:10 GMT -5
I know GaGa isn't a main pop girl like Sabrina, Chappell, and Charli have been all summer, but why not try having two songs out at once? Radio has shown it will bite if the public support is there and LG7's single is probably WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY different than this. Correct. Gaga has been a main pop girl since 2009.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Sept 14, 2024 21:34:42 GMT -5
It could happen, it could not. Nothing wrong with being hopeful. It sounds like a song that could be huge over time. (I'd love it if it were!) I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with being hopeful within reason. So then do you personally think this genuinely has a good shot at replacing "Bad Romance", "Poker Face", and say "Uptown Funk" as GaGa and Bruno's biggest hits?
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Post by rainie on Sept 15, 2024 2:22:43 GMT -5
i'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but i'm confused abt why people are surprised this one is performing so well ? (a vibe i got from early on in this thread so this isn't just about some of the recent posts). last i checked, bruno mars is still a massive name, with his last single lead single (as part of silk sonic yes but im guessing 90% of the public saw it as just bruno) debuting at #1 and having some solid legs / smoking out the window also having a solid top 10 run, not to mention i've heard both in public multiple times in the years since. meanwhile gaga is maybe a bit more of a legacy act, but there seems to be a lot of affection towards her from the public and her star is enough that she's scored two #1 hits in the last 5 years combine this with the fact that this is arguably a bit more radio friendly then anything bruno did in the silk sonic era and the lyrics probably resonate with a lot of people rn for various reasons and yeah. this is abt how i thought this would do. if anything i could've seen this debuting even higher, altho obv a #3 debut is still excellent by any measure Leave the Door Open debuted at #4 oops, total mandela effect for me
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Post by beachboi69 on Sept 15, 2024 3:39:28 GMT -5
I know GaGa isn't a main pop girl like Sabrina, Chappell, and Charli have been all summer, but why not try having two songs out at once? Radio has shown it will bite if the public support is there and LG7's single is probably WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY different than this. Correct. Gaga has been a main pop girl since 2009. Gaga has not had a solo hit in over a decade. She's not a pop girl anymore. It's sad but it's true.
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Post by holdmecloser255 on Sept 15, 2024 3:44:24 GMT -5
Correct. Gaga has been a main pop girl since 2009. Gaga has not had a solo hit in over a decade. She's not a pop girl anymore. It's sad but it's true. Her last solo hit was Applause, so it's accurate.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 15, 2024 4:44:31 GMT -5
Her last solo hit was "Stupid Love."
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Post by #brayden on Sept 15, 2024 4:51:20 GMT -5
Correct. Gaga has been a main pop girl since 2009. Gaga has not had a solo hit in over a decade. She's not a pop girl anymore. It's sad but it's true. The world is a lot bigger than CHR. Sad but true is also acknowledging that there could be 100 people in a room, and 99 of them will probably know who Lady Gaga is. Unless that room is stacked with gay men under 40, the same cannot be said for "main" pop girls Sabrina, Chappell and Charli.
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Post by holdmecloser255 on Sept 15, 2024 5:26:45 GMT -5
Her last solo hit was "Stupid Love." 5-30 Still hasn't cracked 400M streams.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 15, 2024 5:36:45 GMT -5
Her last solo hit was "Stupid Love." 5-30 Still hasn't cracked 400M streams. Worry about them gerls and leave Gaga alone.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 15, 2024 6:44:24 GMT -5
POP: 19 18 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 6258 5665 593 14.703
+53 Spins -100 Bullet +0.358 Audience
HOT AC: 12 11 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 3199 2820 379 10.868
+60 Spins +17 Bullet +0.191 Audience
AC: 7 7 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 696 624 72 2.649
= Spins -28 Bullet -0.003 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 43 44 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 339 324 15 0.414
+4 Spins +1 Bullet +0.005 Audience
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 15, 2024 6:47:42 GMT -5
Sorry, nothing against Charli, but why is she constantly in the same conversation with Sabrina and Chappell? Yes, she had a cute moment this summer and BRAT is definitely a success, but she couldn't even crack the top 40 on the Hot 100 without Billie, and her new song debuted at #172 on the global Spotify chart yesterday. Based on twitter hype, you'd say she scored 2 #1s or something. Again, nothing against her, she's really talented and unique, and BRAT is a huge step in the right direction for her, but Sabrina and Chappell were on another level this (summer) year.
I know this post doesn't belong in this thread and I'm sorry for that lol.
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Post by chickythelittlechicken on Sept 15, 2024 8:28:43 GMT -5
Sorry, nothing against Charli, but why is she constantly in the same conversation with Sabrina and Chappell? Yes, she had a cute moment this summer and BRAT is definitely a success, but she couldn't even crack the top 40 on the Hot 100 without Billie, and her new song debuted at #172 on the global Spotify chart yesterday. Based on twitter hype, you'd say she scored 2 #1s or something. Again, nothing against her, she's really talented and unique, and BRAT is a huge step in the right direction for her, but Sabrina and Chappell were on another level this (summer) year. I know this post doesn't belong in this thread and I'm sorry for that lol. Yeah she doesn't have a single song that's doing super great on the Hot 100 or in other areas. (Also just a note the #172 was from a partial day, the following day it was #72 (+100).
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Sept 15, 2024 9:26:16 GMT -5
Charts aren’t everything. Charli is experiencing a huge cultural moment. That puts her in the same sphere.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 15, 2024 9:36:31 GMT -5
It could happen, it could not. Nothing wrong with being hopeful. It sounds like a song that could be huge over time. (I'd love it if it were!) I think there's absolutely nothing wrong with being hopeful within reason. So then do you personally think this genuinely has a good shot at replacing "Bad Romance", "Poker Face", and say "Uptown Funk" as GaGa and Bruno's biggest hits? No, mainly because I feel like Gaga always faces an uphill battle when it comes to her singles. If radio was doing more to push it up in airplay, then maybe, because the streams have been constant since day 1 and the song does legit sound like something that would be huge so if it were to be bigger than those, it would only surprise me as a pessimistic fan, not because it doesn’t sound like it, if that makes sense.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 15, 2024 12:23:57 GMT -5
Charts aren’t everything. Charli is experiencing a huge cultural moment. That puts her in the same sphere. I think the story about BRAT is interesting to people: the cover, aesthetic, custom texts, memes...but they are not THAT interested to stream it. I just can't put Sabrina and Charli in the same sentence, when Espresso alone has 250M streams more than the whole BRAT album.
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Post by holdmecloser255 on Sept 15, 2024 12:40:30 GMT -5
Charts aren’t everything. Charli is experiencing a huge cultural moment. That puts her in the same sphere. I think the story about BRAT is interesting to people: the cover, aesthetic, custom texts, memes...but they are not THAT interested to stream it. I just can't put Sabrina and Charli in the same sentence, when Espresso alone has 250M streams more than the whole BRAT album. Brat has had undeniable cultural impact, with governors and NATO posting Brat-related memes. And it sort of helped to launch Kamala's campaign (who might become the next president). Brat is also the second most acclaimed female album of all time (after Fiona Apple). Sabrina's streams are cute, but let's see if it translates into a sustainable career. She might become another Olivia Rodrigo or Dua Lipa. Does anyone remember them? Their recent eras flopped. And nobody knows that Chappell girl so far.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Sept 15, 2024 12:56:13 GMT -5
Charts aren’t everything. Charli is experiencing a huge cultural moment. That puts her in the same sphere. I think the story about BRAT is interesting to people: the cover, aesthetic, custom texts, memes...but they are not THAT interested to stream it. I just can't put Sabrina and Charli in the same sentence, when Espresso alone has 250M streams more than the whole BRAT album. The very specific point about streaming is fair but doesn't tell the whole story. It's impossible to discount Charli from that grouping when you bring all factors together. You see the trio referred to everywhere - Charli, Chappell, Sabrina.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 15, 2024 13:01:01 GMT -5
I think the story about BRAT is interesting to people: the cover, aesthetic, custom texts, memes...but they are not THAT interested to stream it. I just can't put Sabrina and Charli in the same sentence, when Espresso alone has 250M streams more than the whole BRAT album. Brat has had undeniable cultural impact, with governors and NATO posting Brat-related memes. And it sort of helped to launch Kamala's campaign (who might become the next president). Brat is also the second most acclaimed female album of all time (after Fiona Apple). Sabrina's streams are cute, but let's see if it translates into a sustainable career. She might become another Olivia Rodrigo or Dua Lipa. Does anyone remember them? Their recent eras flopped. And nobody knows that Chappell girl so far. delete this pls.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 15, 2024 13:06:20 GMT -5
Brat could be akin to what Snakes on a Plane was back in 2007. Everyone talked about it but no one saw it. Still had huge cultural impact but it still flopped.
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 15, 2024 14:07:10 GMT -5
I think the story about BRAT is interesting to people: the cover, aesthetic, custom texts, memes...but they are not THAT interested to stream it. I just can't put Sabrina and Charli in the same sentence, when Espresso alone has 250M streams more than the whole BRAT album. Brat has had undeniable cultural impact, with governors and NATO posting Brat-related memes. And it sort of helped to launch Kamala's campaign (who might become the next president). Brat is also the second most acclaimed female album of all time (after Fiona Apple). Sabrina's streams are cute, but let's see if it translates into a sustainable career. She might become another Olivia Rodrigo or Dua Lipa. Does anyone remember them? Their recent eras flopped. And nobody knows that Chappell girl so far. Where are you pulling out these weird ass thoughts and opinions from? Nobody knows Chappell?
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Sept 15, 2024 14:19:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I wouldn't group Charlie in with Chappell or Sabrina either tbh. I think she's hugely popular with a very vocal minority online (youths), but it isn't translating into actual streams or performance at this point, which kinda keeps her from being akin to Sabrina or Chappell at this moment, as what is talk if it isn't translating to any type of noteable commerce for the artist? Look at Normani, she was spoken about like crazy for a period, but it doesn't mean she's popping. You need both word of mouth and traction to be one of the main pop girlies and I think Charlie's music remains kind of too niche for the mainstream at this point.
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Post by shakemaki on Sept 15, 2024 14:27:20 GMT -5
Brat is a massive zeitgeist moment of summer 2024. SNS and Sabrina are a massive commercial success era Teenage Dream thing. Two different things. Chappell is actually kinda falling into both of those things tbh (though maybe not quite as successfully as Brat is the zeitgeist and SNS is the charts), so good for her. All 3 are THE music stories of 2024, along with the Drake/Kendrick beef.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 15, 2024 14:56:48 GMT -5
Charli isn't a main pop girl and she's never going to be. She's very aware of this. And that's for the best when it comes to her image, her music and her career. She's done blockbuster numbers for HER and for her place in the industry.
She ruled pop culture and social media all summer and that absolutely translated into sales and streams. The best of her career in the US and internationally. She's landed multiple international hits and the album is still riding high months later. She's also touring the biggest venues of her career. Not everything is gonna look like a Sabrina, especially for Charli who's a completely different type of artist. Charli fully crossing over would probably be the death knell of her career tbh. The line she's been riding for this album of maintaining her indie girl cool and also having mainstream commercial success is a way trickier balancing act than you guys are giving it credit for. This era is gonna be studied.
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Post by arturo52311 on Sept 15, 2024 15:34:01 GMT -5
Correct. Gaga has been a main pop girl since 2009. Gaga has not had a solo hit in over a decade. She's not a pop girl anymore. It's sad but it's true. Always Remember Us This Way and Bloody Mary are bigger than some songs you would probably consider hits for other artists. Not to mention that Shallow, despite being a collaboration, is known as a signature Gaga song not a "Gaga and Bradley Cooper" song. Like Just Dance. She could perform it at another Super Bowl half time and not a single person would say "she can't do it without Bradley!"
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Post by Mayman on Sept 15, 2024 15:37:08 GMT -5
I think the story about BRAT is interesting to people: the cover, aesthetic, custom texts, memes...but they are not THAT interested to stream it. I just can't put Sabrina and Charli in the same sentence, when Espresso alone has 250M streams more than the whole BRAT album. Brat has had undeniable cultural impact, with governors and NATO posting Brat-related memes. And it sort of helped to launch Kamala's campaign (who might become the next president). Brat is also the second most acclaimed female album of all time (after Fiona Apple). Sabrina's streams are cute, but let's see if it translates into a sustainable career. She might become another Olivia Rodrigo or Dua Lipa. Does anyone remember them? Their recent eras flopped. And nobody knows that Chappell girl so far. Nobody knows Chappell when half of her album has charted on the Hot 100 for months. She's having a Billie-esc run where people actually listen to her whole discography rather than just one song.
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