Billboard Hot 100: 08/31/2024

[Jay D83]

Aug 21, 2024 6:37:00 GMT -5 #LisaRinna said:

US Spotify:
1. Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die with a Smile - 2,229,247 plays (+251,257)

Go Bruga!

[Ernesto]

Aug 21, 2024 6:37:00 GMT -5 #LisaRinna said:

US Spotify:
1. Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars - Die with a Smile - 2,229,247 plays (+251,257)

A fitting position for the Record of the Year! 

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2024 » / « 08 » / « 21 »

1(=) Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 107.09(+0.23)
2(=) Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen) 85.68(-0.61)
3(=) Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY 68.63(-0.12)
4(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 68.45(-0.01)
5(=) Hozier - Too Sweet 67.52(-0.36)
6(=) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 59.77(+0.13)
7(=) Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 55.37(+0.04)
8(=) Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 51.21(-0.20)
9(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please 44.46(+0.84)
10(=) SZA - Saturn 42.28(-0.39)

12(=) Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER 41.86(+0.63)

13(=) Dasha - Austin (Boots Stop Workin') 41.01(+0.61)

14(=) Drew Baldridge - She's Somebody's Daughter (The Wedding Version) 40.26(+0.66)

19(+1) Luke Combs - Ain't No Love In Oklahoma 33.50(+0.62)

27(=) GloRilla & Megan Thee Stallion - Wanna Be 28.80(+0.69)

34(=) Post Malone - Pour Me A Drink (feat. Blake Shelton) 23.30(+0.72)

53(+2) GloRilla - TGIF 16.40(+0.65)

92(+19) Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile 9.95(+1.44)

[jayhawk1117]

Number one on Spotify after 5 consecutive days of ONLY growth? But I thought Gaga’s career was in the toilet?? You mean to tell me one of the most culturally relevant artists of all time is STILL making hits after having the most successful rebounds of the last decade? Couldn’t be! People on pulse are always right and in touch with pop culture!

[morgan96]

Aug 21, 2024 11:02:50 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Number one on Spotify after 5 consecutive days of ONLY growth? But I thought Gaga’s career was in the toilet?? You mean to tell me one of the most culturally relevant artists of all time is STILL making hits after having the most successful rebounds of the last decade? Couldn’t be! People on pulse are always right and in touch with pop culture!

I think is huge because of bruno mars not for lady gaga. Sorry..
The song from gaga feat Rolling Stones was the biggest flop of the last 2 years..

[jayhawk1117]

And the coping begins I fear. A couple days ago it was “lucky” to get top 40 let alone the top 5 where it’s headed but now that’s CLEARLY a smash hit that’s resonating very well, it’s only because of Bruno. Eat the L and keep it pushing

[thegreatdivine]

When good music performs well commercially >>>

[clsvltn]

Aug 21, 2024 11:29:38 GMT -5 morgan96 said:

Aug 21, 2024 11:02:50 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Number one on Spotify after 5 consecutive days of ONLY growth? But I thought Gaga’s career was in the toilet?? You mean to tell me one of the most culturally relevant artists of all time is STILL making hits after having the most successful rebounds of the last decade? Couldn’t be! People on pulse are always right and in touch with pop culture!

I think is huge because of bruno mars not for lady gaga. Sorry..
The song from gaga feat Rolling Stones was the biggest flop of the last 2 years..

The Rolling Stones are not relevant in any way shape or form in 2024 to "charts" 

They are a legacy act that comes from touring.  Of course they are a great group but no one in the mainstream is checking for them.  Additionally, the song was like 7 minutes long. It was not going to do anything in the tiktok era.  Even the radio edit was super long. ALSO the song was hardly even featuring Gaga .  

Let's get the facts straight here

[allow that]

Aug 21, 2024 11:31:59 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

And the coping begins I fear. A couple days ago it was “lucky” to get top 40 let alone the top 5 where it’s headed but now that’s CLEARLY a smash hit that’s resonating very well, it’s only because of Bruno. Eat the L and keep it pushing

"It's only a hit because of.." is a really stupid argument here. They're both veteran A-Listers. They BOTH felt that working together was a good move for their respective brands. They both saw potential to score a hit as a team, or they simply wouldn't have collaborated.

[Enigma.]

Gaga is an artist who can always stay relevant if she wants to. She is very well known globally (her Wiki Page remains one of the most visited) and broadly liked. Not everything she does turns into gold, and it's not even meant to (like her jazz albums), but people should never underestimate her.

[spiritboy]

There's no gimmicks here, no remixes, no variants, no alternate versions, just a great song that's clearly resonating with people.

[shakemaki]

Just amazing what DWAS is already doing, and it’s just getting started! I’m so hyped for this chart run. That ROTY/SOTY Grammy feels imminent. Especially if the heavy hitters go with some of the weaker tracks from their albums just bc they were the first single (e.g. Lunch, Texas Hold ‘Em, Fortnight, etc). I don’t think any of those could compete with DWAS. Birds of a Feather and/or Chihiro could be much stiffer comp though.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Yeah, I'm just not buying the notion GaGa is incapable of producing a hit or even that she needs a high-profile co-star in order to execute one. I mean, she's pretty much had consistent hits throughout her career, with her only real backslide being Artpop at the time and even it had "Applause" and "Do What U Want" so to minimize her abilities as a hit-maker feels disingenuous and just like a bit of hateration, holleration...

[Music Fan]

Gaga still has a huge fanbase that will follow her, and while the GP is not necessarily looking for new music from here, she's still a household name with a positive reputation that will allow her to get people interested in good music. However, the biggest reason this song is doing great is because of Bruno -- let's not lie to ourselves here.

[shakemaki]

Aug 21, 2024 12:51:26 GMT -5 Music Fan said:

Gaga still has a huge fanbase that will follow her, and while the GP is not necessarily looking for new music from here, she's still a household name with a positive reputation that will allow her to get people interested in good music. However, the biggest reason this song is doing great is because of Bruno -- let's not lie to ourselves here.

Because I think it’s highly debatable that’s the biggest reason? I’d say the biggest reason is the song itself sounds like an instant timeless classic…

[Lost In Musical Reverie]

Aug 21, 2024 12:41:39 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

Just amazing what DWAS is already doing, and it’s just getting started! I’m so hyped for this chart run. That ROTY/SOTY Grammy feels imminent. Especially if the heavy hitters go with some of the weaker tracks from their albums just bc they were the first single (e.g. Lunch, Texas Hold ‘Em, Fortnight, etc). I don’t think any of those could compete with DWAS. Birds of a Feather and/or Chihiro could be much stiffer comp though.

You make a very interesting point here that could favour "Die With A Smile" 's chances come Grammy season. Granted, I find both "LUNCH" and "TEXAS HOLD 'EM" to be great songs, but the former definitely isn't as Grammy-friendly as "BIRDS OF A FEATHER", while Beyoncé's single might suffer from getting lost in the shuffle while she did nothing to promote or campaign for it (something which I fear may also apply to "COWBOY CARTER" to some extent). A lot has happened in the music world since February/March 2024.

I'd also add Sabrina Carpenter to this list. I know most chart watchers and pop fans prefer "Espresso", but I find "Please Please Please" to be more interesting both lyrically and sonically, as well as having the Jack Antonoff association, factors which in my view make it a stronger contender for her.

That being said, I feel that Billie will get her submission right. Chappell Roan's "Good Luck, Babe!" would be my ideal winner, but I can see valid arguments made for "BIRDS OF A FEATHER", "Die With A Smile", Hozier's "Too Sweet", and Shaboozey's "A Bar Song (Tipsy)". Would prefer to see a first-time winner, though.

I may have countless grievances with how the Grammys operate and their...questionable history, but this year's fight is looking beyond intriguing in a way we haven't seen since 2020 (ugh...if only The Weeknd hadn't been snubbed and Cardi submitted "WAP").

[Enigma.]

Things I've seen on TikTok:
Bruno's debt --> Gaga "saved" him (this is obviously a joke)
Gaga's dancing - this is mostly Gaga
People praising the vocals - credits to both
"Barbie and Ken" set up with the two - credits to both

It's not doing great ONLY because of Bruno at least from viral aspect.

[shakemaki]

I think either of them could have taken DWAS to hit with just about any duet partner. The fact that they’re both well known and (mostly) well liked is just a plus for it imo.

If you want to go in on a Gaga hit maybe not being due to her as much, there’s a stronger argument for Rain On Me than this. Ariana was at unprecedented streaming powers at the time that released. To the point she had also gotten that ridiculously lazy and throwaway Bieber pandemic collab to a #1 debut as well. DWAS is not the same scenario with Bruno. If it was, it would have blown up on steaming on day 1 rather than this insane growth it’s having this week.

[cking33]

Aug 21, 2024 13:27:18 GMT -5 Lost In Musical Reverie said:

Aug 21, 2024 12:41:39 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

Just amazing what DWAS is already doing, and it’s just getting started! I’m so hyped for this chart run. That ROTY/SOTY Grammy feels imminent. Especially if the heavy hitters go with some of the weaker tracks from their albums just bc they were the first single (e.g. Lunch, Texas Hold ‘Em, Fortnight, etc). I don’t think any of those could compete with DWAS. Birds of a Feather and/or Chihiro could be much stiffer comp though.

You make a very interesting point here that could favour "Die With A Smile" 's chances come Grammy season. Granted, I find both "LUNCH" and "TEXAS HOLD 'EM" to be great songs, but the former definitely isn't as Grammy-friendly as "BIRDS OF A FEATHER", while Beyoncé's single might suffer from getting lost in the shuffle while she did nothing to promote or campaign for it (something which I fear may also apply to "COWBOY CARTER" to some extent). A lot has happened in the music world since February/March 2024.

I'd also add Sabrina Carpenter to this list. I know most chart watchers and pop fans prefer "Espresso", but I find "Please Please Please" to be more interesting both lyrically and sonically, as well as having the Jack Antonoff association, factors which in my view make it a stronger contender for her.

That being said, I feel that Billie will get her submission right. Chappell Roan's "Good Luck, Babe!" would be my ideal winner, but I can see valid arguments made for "BIRDS OF A FEATHER", "Die With A Smile", Hozier's "Too Sweet", and Shaboozey's "A Bar Song (Tipsy)". Would prefer to see a first-time winner, though.

I may have countless grievances with how the Grammys operate and their...questionable history, but this year's fight is looking beyond intriguing in a way we haven't seen since 2020 (ugh...if only The Weeknd hadn't been snubbed and Cardi submitted "WAP").

If we're getting into the Grammy weeds, DWAS is to me the runaway favorite right now, with "Birds of a Feather" runner up. Chappell Roan and Sabrina Carpenter will definitely also pick up nominations, (I think Sabrina should also submit "Please, Please, Please") but at this point I don't think either is a favorite to win in ROTY or SOTY. Billie is like Bruno, in the sense that both have dominated these two particular categories in their careers. It's really hard to get multiple wins in each, and they've each done it. You really have to come with a knockout if you're going to KEEP winning, and that's what DWAS is. "Birds of Feather," for how great it is, isn't a knockout track like this.

It's crazy to see a song growing like this in streaming from a decent but not overwhelming debut. This song has the potential to enjoy sustained Hot 100 success because I think it's going to be a song that crosses audiences and generations. I expect it'll be a strong digital seller for a while, in the sense that songs can be such a thing in the year 2024.

[SPRΞΞ]

if it keeps up, and it looks likely, I wonder if it can snag Top 10 of the year end? Didn't Roar debut around this time and ended up at #10 YE?

I think it has potential to be her biggest hit.

[SPRΞΞ]

Aug 21, 2024 14:21:32 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

I think either of them could have taken DWAS to hit with just about any duet partner. The fact that they’re both well known and (mostly) well liked is just a plus for it imo.

If you want to go in on a Gaga hit maybe not being due to her as much, there’s a stronger argument for Rain On Me than this. Ariana was at unprecedented streaming powers at the time that released. To the point she had also gotten that ridiculously lazy and throwaway Bieber pandemic collab to a #1 debut as well. DWAS is not the same scenario with Bruno. If it was, it would have blown up on steaming on day 1 rather than this insane growth it’s having this week.

what were Flowers streaming numbers first 7 days?

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Aug 21, 2024 16:44:59 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

if it keeps up, and it looks likely, I wonder if it can snag Top 10 of the year end? Didn't Roar debut around this time and ended up at #10 YE?

nah, it'd need like 650+ points every week.

[kingvavis]

Aug 21, 2024 16:44:59 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

if it keeps up, and it looks likely, I wonder if it can snag Top 10 of the year end? Didn't Roar debut around this time and ended up at #10 YE?

I think it has potential to be her biggest hit.

The year end tracking period ends in mid October for 2024. Back in 2013, it ended in late November. So there's less weeks to get into the top 10 of the year end compared to Roar.

[SPRΞΞ]

mid-October?? lol

[inverse]

can we all make a collective agreement to ignore Billboard's drunk ass and instead just decide the january - december year end list is the "canon" year end?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[stormlover74]

Aug 21, 2024 16:44:59 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

if it keeps up, and it looks likely, I wonder if it can snag Top 10 of the year end? Didn't Roar debut around this time and ended up at #10 YE?

I think it has potential to be her biggest hit.

There are only about 12 weeks left. Even if averages 250 points that's only 3000 points

[SPRΞΞ]

Aug 21, 2024 18:26:37 GMT -5 inverse said:

can we all make a collective agreement to ignore Billboard's drunk ass and instead just decide the january - december year end list is the "canon" year end?

yep, just like I ignore the Pop Songs Chart and think it's totally irrelevant compared to Mediabase's Chr Top 40 chart that has been around since 1973.

[gs]

"Jimin - Who" now has 34% US paid audio lmfaoo, legit unprecedented scammery via free Spotify accounts and <5,000 obsessed stans mass-streaming on multiple free Spotify accounts with 80 streams per account per day eligible to count for its single charting version.

It's going to keep freefalling on the Hot 100 (thanks to streaming tiers actually being useful in this scenario) until its audio is only 1% paid — no PAYING subscriber — not even his "fans" are listening to that garbage song at this point, only their free bots emanating sounds through non-worn headphones.

Spotify should start weighing streams for their charts. If they did, Flowers would be #1 fastest to 1 billion paid-equivalent streams, Seven OUT.

[Enigma.]

This article interestingly reveals what kind of portion Spotify has in the streaming market. "Smile" got 2.2M on Spotify and 3.52M overall on Monday - so 1.3M come from elsewhere in total. #1 on AM means maybe 900k?

www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/lady-gaga-bruno-mars-die-with-a-smile-growing-debut-week-1235758135/