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Post by Evergreen on Jul 10, 2004 19:02:33 GMT -5
Alicia might just take home more nominations than any other female artist in history because "If I Ain't Got You" and "You Don't Know My Name" could be big in mutliple categories. "If I Ain't Got You" will definitely beat "YDKMN" for a Record of the Year nomination, but both songs have a great shot at being nominated for Song of the Year.
Usher's only big nomination will be "Album of the Year" because the album is so huge that have to put it there. He'll win rap/sung collaboration, and maybe r&b male, but will lose R&B album to Alicia.
Clay Aiken was very eligible for Best New Artist last year. No chance of seeing him this year. Look for Joss Stone, Gretchen Wilson, Kayne West, Maroon Five for sure. Fifth spot is up in the air. Could go to Nellie McKay, Fantasia, Damien Rice, Tobey Lightman, or even Jojo if she can keep a really high profile.
Along with Alicia and Usher, you'll definitely find Loretta Lynn nominated for Album of the Year. Jay Z could himself nominated as well. And in this weak year, you cannot count out Britney Spear's "In the Zone"
Record of the Year will definitely include an Alicia Keys song, but she's the only lock. "Everytime" by Britney Spears should make it. "My Immortal" was the early favorite to win, but it's losing steam, it will still be nominated. As will "This Love" by Maroon Five.
Britney will finally win her long overdue Grammy. She'll top Norah in both female pop vocal and pop vocal album.
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Post by Evergreen on Aug 6, 2004 11:42:25 GMT -5
Jojo and Ashlee Simpson are fighting for a spot in BNA. The locks are Kayne West, Joss Stone, Gretchen Wilson, and Maroon 5.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Aug 6, 2004 12:03:22 GMT -5
I had considered Joss Stone pretty much locked, but now I'm thinking the commercial success of one of those two could cancel out her critical success and leave her without a nod.
I'm going to post my revised nominees in a bit.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Aug 6, 2004 12:58:55 GMT -5
I highly doubt Britney or Jessica will win anything.
But Teena Marie better win a lil' sumpin' sumpin'!
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Post by flarbygarby on Aug 6, 2004 19:32:16 GMT -5
I highly doubt Britney or Jessica will win anything. I second that.
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Post by bluenote on Aug 6, 2004 21:00:51 GMT -5
Jojo and Ashlee Simpson are fighting for a spot in BNA. The locks are Kayne West, Joss Stone, Gretchen Wilson, and Maroon 5. LOL. I dont think Jo Jo will even come close.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Aug 6, 2004 21:51:27 GMT -5
Could My Immortal get a nom for both Record and Song of the Year?
Compared to other songs that you've mentioned, how good are the chances?
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Post by bluenote on Aug 6, 2004 22:10:16 GMT -5
you cannot count out Britney Spear's "In the Zone" Britney will finally win her long overdue Grammy. She'll top Norah in both female pop vocal and pop vocal album. Music to my ears!
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Post by Lohanfan on Aug 6, 2004 22:22:06 GMT -5
Britney's going to beat Jessica, Norah, Beyonce, Christina, and Avril Lavigne? I really doubt that. She's the one most likely to NOT get an award. She always gets a couple of nominations, but that's about it. I think she'll get nominated for "Best Pop Collaboration" with Madonna, "Best Pop Vocal Album", and "Best Pop Vocal Performance" for "Toxic", that's about it.
My predictions
Record Of The Year Usher "Yeah!" Maroon 5 "This Love" Alicia Keys "If I Aint Got You" A Norah Jones song... something else
Album Of The Year Usher Alicia Keys Norah Jones .............
Best Pop Vocal Performance Britney Spears "Toxic" Christina Aguilera "The Voice Within" Jojo "Leave" Jessica Simpson "With You" Avril Lavigne "Don't Tell Me" or "My Happy Ending" someone else...
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Post by bluenote on Aug 6, 2004 22:35:28 GMT -5
Christina Aguilera isnt getting any nominations. Jessica SImpson sucks and wont win anything. Avril will lose as usual. Jo Jo is a No No.
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Post by Lohanfan on Aug 6, 2004 22:55:50 GMT -5
Christina Aguilera isnt getting any nominations. Jessica SImpson sucks and wont win anything. Avril will lose as usual. Jo Jo is a No No. I'm sorry but your theory doesn't sound logical "Christina Aguilera isn't getting any nominations" -Says who? "Jessica Simpson sucks and won't win anything" -it's perfectly fine for you to say she sucks but when i say Britney sucked i get roll eyed? If Jessica sucks, then believe me, Britney sucks too "Avril will lose as usuaul" -If losing 2 years in a row is 'losing as usual', then what's losing 5 years in a row? (Britney's case). If your theory is that Avril won't win anything because she never wins anything, then what would be so different about Britney since she's obviously lost TWICE as much as Avril? "Jojo is a no-no" -See Christina Aguilera.
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Post by j on Aug 7, 2004 3:25:50 GMT -5
Best Pop Vocal PerformanceBritney Spears "Toxic" Christina Aguilera "The Voice Within" Jojo "Leave" Jessica Simpson "With You" Avril Lavigne "Don't Tell Me" or "My Happy Ending" someone else... Only 5 nominees per award 99% of the time.
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Post by bluenote on Aug 7, 2004 8:09:09 GMT -5
I'm sorry but your theory doesn't sound logical "Christina Aguilera isn't getting any nominations" -Says who? "Jessica Simpson sucks and won't win anything" -it's perfectly fine for you to say she sucks but when i say Britney sucked i get roll eyed? If Jessica sucks, then believe me, Britney sucks too "Avril will lose as usuaul" -If losing 2 years in a row is 'losing as usual', then what's losing 5 years in a row? (Britney's case). If your theory is that Avril won't win anything because she never wins anything, then what would be so different about Britney since she's obviously lost TWICE as much as Avril? "Jojo is a no-no" -See Christina Aguilera. Christinas year was last year. The voice within isnt good enough for them to recognize her another year. Beyonce has a better shot at getting a nomination then her. Jessica Simpson may have had a good year due to her stupidity on television but her music is not good enough to win anything. Her sister could win over her. Jessicas music is very dry. She will be nominated because ehr status has gone up but a win? Nope not even close. But i'm sure she will be nominated because of her high profile now. The difference between Avril and Britney is that no1 thinks this is Avrils year. Most people agree that this is Britneys year to win. Avril has really become a dissapointment. And i anything Britney will at tleast win in the dance recording category if she submits Toxic for dance and "everytime" for pop vocal performance. Also Brinteys career is mimicing Madonnas so Britney will probably win her first VMA and Grammy this year, same as Madonna with Ray of light;) JoJo wont end up doing anythin significant in the industry. She is basicaly a nobody and I dont think anything she does will never be as successful as "Get out." She will probably get another minor hit or 2 but I forsee her being gone soon(she was never really here anyway). Her profile isnt larger enough to get her a nomination. Certain artists have to get nominations becausethey have status and the Gramys need ratings so they will make sure certain A-list people will be there....JO JO is not needed nor does she have profile, let alone a high one lol. Especially in the female pop vocal category. thats one of the biggest non major categories of the year. Record, album, song of the year and best new artist are the big ones. Then after that its the pop vocal performances. There are too many other important people that have clout and will be recognized before Jo Jo. Ashless simpson would get a nomination before Jo JO because of who she is...and her music is just better. Also Alanis Morriesette is another contender for pop vocal performance. See, no room for a Jo Jo.
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Post by bluenote on Aug 7, 2004 8:13:27 GMT -5
Anyone think "dip it low" can get a best dance recording nomination??? Or a rap/sung collaboration for "whatever u want" or "dip it low"???
Anyone think Monica could get a best female r&b vocal performance for "u shoulda known better"?
Also, can eyonce submit another album track for best female r&b vocal performance or does it have to be a song she released because her album was eligible last year?
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Post by Dave on Aug 7, 2004 12:46:14 GMT -5
I definitely think that "The Voice Within" has an excellent shot at a nomination this year. Granted, I don't think it will win, but I feel it will be one of the nominees. If they decide to nominate Sheryl Crow for TFCITD in the pop category I think she will definitely win... she is eligible isn't she?
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Post by flarbygarby on Aug 7, 2004 15:43:15 GMT -5
Britney is as much of a Grammy "loser" as Avril, so I don't think mere subjectivity (in case people don't understand what that means, it's when you have preference towards something) is a good defense argument. Besides, some of the best acts in history have never won a Grammy (Led Zeppelin comes to mind)
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Aug 7, 2004 15:45:12 GMT -5
Also, can eyonce submit another album track for best female r&b vocal performance or does it have to be a song she released because her album was eligible last year? She can't submit anything in the R&B categories this year because her album won Best Contemporary R&B Album last year. That makes anything from it ineligible for this year.
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Post by Evergreen on Aug 7, 2004 17:34:00 GMT -5
That makes anything from it ineligible for this year. That's not completely correct. Even if an album wins an album of the year award, all the singles from the album are still eligible for Record of the Year. That's the one exception.
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Post by Evergreen on Aug 7, 2004 17:57:34 GMT -5
Jojo has huge industry buzz. A lot of people recognize her potential as an artist. She's so young and she's starting off so well. The album sales have been decent and the single is HUGE. Little girls with big voices fare well here, and the critics like her.
This isn't Britney's year. Sure, she'll get a few pop nominations, she'll have a year similar to Christina's last year. Look for her to get 3 nominations, and win Best Dance for "Toxic"
Christina will definitely be nominated. NARAS loves her. She has NEVER NOT been nominated when she had an eligible single. "The Voice Within" might sneak into Song of the Year, and is a lock for Pop Female Vocal Performance. Christina has been nominated 4 times in the last 3 years for Pop Collaboration, and she'll be nominated again for her deut with Missy Elliot. But she won't win any more this year.
Alicia Keys will have a record breaking night.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Aug 7, 2004 18:06:18 GMT -5
That's not completely correct. Even if an album wins an album of the year award, all the singles from the album are still eligible for Record of the Year. That's the one exception. I meant in the R&B categories.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Aug 7, 2004 18:09:14 GMT -5
This isn't Britney's year. Sure, she'll get a few pop nominations, she'll have a year similar to Christina's last year. Look for her to get 3 nominations, and win Best Dance for "Toxic" Less than a month ago you said she'd top Norah in Female Pop and Pop Album. What happened? I don't think Christina's getting anything for this year, and a Song Of The Year nom for "The Voice Within" is absurd.
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Post by Evergreen on Aug 7, 2004 18:19:11 GMT -5
Less than a month ago you said she'd top Norah in Female Pop and Pop Album. What happened? I don't think Christina's getting anything for this year, and a Song Of The Year nom for "The Voice Within" is absurd. Jojo and Ashlee are what happened to Norah. They are both strong enough to push her out completely. I didn't realize how dead in the water Norah Jones really is until recently. You may think "The Voice Within" is absurd, but at the board I post on most frequently, more people than not think she has a good shot, and 95% of the posters are picking her for a Pop Vocal Female. And no way NARAS will pass up on a Christina and Missy collaboration. It wasn't too long ago they took a song to number 1 and won a Grammy for that. No way Christina gets completely shut out. She's been nominated somewhere around 11 times in her short career. They love her, and "The Voice WIthin" was probably her strongest performance.
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Post by bluenote on Aug 7, 2004 19:12:24 GMT -5
"the voice within" is a good song....I had to really stop and think about it for a minute. She has a really good vocal performance on it but there are sooo many female pop artists I dont know if they would recognize her in that category again after winning.....but it could also give them more of a reason to nominate her again this year. hmmmmmmm??? My position still stands with Jo Jo. I think she is a No No. "pieces of me" on the other hand might have a chance for female pop vocal as well as Ashlee getting best new artist nom. I would laugh if Hillary Duff gets nominated. No1 has mentioned her
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Post by chebingeo on Aug 7, 2004 19:37:18 GMT -5
I could see Gretchen Wilson sweeping the country category, and possibly even Best New Artist.
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Post by Evergreen on Aug 7, 2004 19:42:04 GMT -5
I could see Gretchen Wilson sweeping the country category, and possibly even Best New Artist. Lorreta Lynn has never won a Grammy. She released the most critically acclaimed album of the year, maybe of the decade. She'll definitely slaughter Gretchen in the country categories. Gretchen's only chance is best new artist, which Joss Stone will probably win.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Aug 7, 2004 20:11:17 GMT -5
Christina wins a Grammy every year so of course she'll pick up something for "The Voice Within." Once again, Christina's ship will come in while her competition continues to flounder on the seabed of life.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Aug 7, 2004 20:55:14 GMT -5
Lorreta Lynn has never won a Grammy. She released the most critically acclaimed album of the year, maybe of the decade. She'll definitely slaughter Gretchen in the country categories. Gretchen's only chance is best new artist, which Joss Stone will probably win. She won one for a collabo in the '70s, but that's it. And it's for reasons such as that, that Grammys mean very little to the country crowd. They value the CMAs and the ACMs far more. I agree Lynn will triumph. I just typed a long post of revised predix, and it got lost when I hit post. :'(
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Post by Bob on Aug 7, 2004 21:39:17 GMT -5
I just typed a long post of revised predix, and it got lost when I hit post. :'( ugh, that sucks
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Post by Lohanfan on Aug 7, 2004 22:27:44 GMT -5
I find it funny how the Britney fans think "In The Zone" is similar to Madonna's "Ray Of Light" era. That's ridiculous! First of all, "Ray Of Light" came 15 years into Madonna's career, Britney on the other hand hasn't even been out a full 5 years. Second, "Ray Of Light" rebounded Madonna in the sales department, "In The Zone" did nothing more but prove the theory "The more she releases, the less they are selling". And 3rd of all, "Ray Of Light". was described as one of Madonna's best albums at the time, no one besides the regular Britney "I think [Insert her latest album] is her best album to date" has said this about "In The Zone".
Why do you think Avril Lavigne is a dissapointmet? Your allowed to think she is a dissapointment and when people think "In The Zone" is a dissapointment that's not acceptable? I'm confused.
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Post by Bcacb on Aug 7, 2004 23:53:56 GMT -5
I think the comparison of "In the Zone" to "Ray of Light" is that Britney's "In the Zone" is her "Ray of Light," as of right now. "In the Zone" is a great pop album and I think it's the best she's put out so far. Just because it's her latest album doesn't mean it's the best. It is the best out of the four. And just because her sales aren't the same or greater than her other albums doesn't mean jack s**t. Look at the market now and look at the market when "...Baby One More Time" was released. CD burning, downloading MP3s, compilation albums, etc., were not as popular in the "...Baby One More Time" days, but now they're booming. I will never understand WHY people compare albums that are sold now to albums sold in the late 1990s. The market is insanely different than it used to be. Having "In the Zone" approach three million in sales is awesome. If you don't think so, think about the number of albums that have sold more than her in the past year. Now, think about the number of albums that have sold less than her. It's a big difference, isn't it? Yes, you can argue and say that Britney's stature should allow her to sell at least five million all the time, but she can't. Thinking that "In the Zone" will sell 14 million or 10 million is absurd. It's a long shot, but it could match the sales of "Britney," but I'm definitely not betting on it.
So the point of this post is: a). Just because "Ray of Light" came out 15 years AFTER Madonna's first album means nothing. You can have a great album come out in your prime and it can be a definitive album. "In the Zone" could possibly be Britney's "Ray of Light" further down the road. b). Do not compare sales of now to then. The market is in two totally different places.
And this was basically in response to LohanFan's post.
Thanks, Ben
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