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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 16, 2007 4:17:00 GMT -5
That was probably aimed more at some of the posts above mine than my own, but I probably should have said "people who think the song is overrated" and "people who think the song is underrated" instead of "hate" and "love". I'm sure he was referring more to krhazy than to you, good sir.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jul 16, 2007 8:44:19 GMT -5
According to Artist Direct, Hallelujah is going to be the second single.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jul 17, 2007 18:26:17 GMT -5
They did a stripped down cover of U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday. Personally, I like their cover of Foo Fighters' My Hero better.
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Post by unicorns on Jul 17, 2007 18:30:02 GMT -5
I loooove the cover of Sunday Bloody Sunday.
My Hero is good too.
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Post by Haley on Jul 17, 2007 18:30:14 GMT -5
According to Artist Direct, Hallelujah is going to be the second single. Really? That's an...interesting choice. Not one that i had in mind. hmmm
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Post by Matt4319 on Jul 17, 2007 19:35:36 GMT -5
According to Artist Direct, Hallelujah is going to be the second single. Really? That's an...interesting choice. Not one that i had in mind. hmmm Me either. I don't put as much stock in Artist Direct as FMQB or AllAccess though.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 18, 2007 3:13:54 GMT -5
They did a stripped down cover of U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday. Personally, I like their cover of Foo Fighters' My Hero better. I'd prefer never to hear either one.
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Post by unicorns on Jul 18, 2007 17:36:10 GMT -5
According to Artist Direct, Hallelujah is going to be the second single. I think they're also releasing "Born For This" with it...
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jul 18, 2007 18:19:09 GMT -5
Born for This from last night's MTV Live taping in Times Square. They will be putting a live set on MTV in the near future.
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Post by tortuga on Jul 18, 2007 23:28:26 GMT -5
They did a stripped down cover of U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday. Personally, I like their cover of Foo Fighters' My Hero better. I'd prefer never to hear either one.
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Post by crash46 on Jul 19, 2007 1:20:24 GMT -5
I'll nullify that pretentious image posted above by saying that for them to record those songs is truly laughable, not merely because they're nobodies pissing on classic records, but also because the chances of them truly understanding the songs are minimal.
This goes for either song, since none of them were nearly alive when the actual Bloody Sunday occurred, and Hayley must have been five years old when Cobain did his thing.
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Post by tortuga on Jul 19, 2007 2:27:47 GMT -5
Its being comedic, not pretentious so lighten up. I was hoping someone would just laugh about it instead of creating another flame war.
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Post by tortuga on Jul 19, 2007 2:35:48 GMT -5
Haha, I should've used that one, maybe. How's that for pretentious?
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Post by crash46 on Jul 19, 2007 2:38:41 GMT -5
A: There's never been a flame war here. B: Audio.(I didn't say there was anything wrong with taking that extra step...)
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Post by roentgenizdat on Jul 19, 2007 6:19:07 GMT -5
Modern Rock: #34 Hot 100: #86 Pop 100: #73
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Post by tortuga on Jul 19, 2007 21:25:52 GMT -5
A: There's never been a flame war here. B: Audio.(I didn't say there was anything wrong with taking that extra step...) A: It does feel like one though. Me vs. You and Nicholas2.0. 2 against 1. Nobody is helping me. :'( B. Haha, I love sounds like that.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Jul 19, 2007 21:31:18 GMT -5
I think we've found two people who are jealous of Paramore and wish they could have broken through with their bands at age 18. :)
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 19, 2007 23:56:50 GMT -5
I think we've found two people who are jealous of Paramore and wish they could have broken through with their bands at age 18. :) Yeah, that's it.
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Post by crash46 on Jul 20, 2007 0:06:14 GMT -5
I think we've found two people who are jealous of Paramore and wish they could have broken through with their bands at age 18. :) Now that's being 'comedic'.
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Post by pen on Jul 20, 2007 5:39:46 GMT -5
I'll nullify that pretentious image posted above by saying that for them to record those songs is truly laughable, not merely because they're nobodies pissing on classic records, but also because the chances of them truly understanding the songs are minimal. This goes for either song, since none of them were nearly alive when the actual Bloody Sunday occurred, and Hayley must have been five years old when Cobain did his thing. Yeah, because you have to be born when a song was written to be able to understand it. Shit, I guess that means I can never listen to The Clash.
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Post by crash46 on Jul 20, 2007 11:04:55 GMT -5
Oh come on penance, I haven't heard your band's Clash covers yet. You're simply appreciating good music if you're listening to The Clash. The songs in question were written to give people a better understanding of each respective event in history, through the perspective of their songwriters. Bono is Irish; he was affected firsthand by Bloody Sunday. Dave Grohl knew Kurt Cobain firsthand; he was his hero. Paramore is just a bunch of kids who haven't paid a nickel of dues yet and have no connections to either of the two events looking to capitalize on two classic modern rock hits to gain popularity.
I am not down with that. It's bad enough when American Idol does it.
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Post by pen on Jul 20, 2007 13:52:27 GMT -5
It's not like they're releasing the covers for sale. They just performed them live. How is that capitalism?
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Post by friday on Jul 20, 2007 19:35:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I think we're getting a little carried away here. These are live covers we're talking about here. If I'm not mistaken, I think almost every up-and-coming band will toss a cover or two of their favorite songs into their setlist. I haven't heard either of these covers, so for all I know, they may both suck (and being a huge U2 fan, I have to admit, much as I like these guys, I am kinda wary of hearing them attempt "Sunday Bloody Sunday"), but are people here really thinking they're trying to reinvent the wheel by covering these songs at a concert?
And I guess I never put two and two together for "My Hero," since I never realized that was about Cobain. Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if many other people didn't know that, since it's a song whose lyrics seem to easily lend themselves to a variety of interpretations or applications. Hell, I think ESPN used the song one year for their MLB playoff coverage. I mean, song meanings shouldn't be set in concrete anyway. Billie Joe Armstrong wrote a song about the death of his father that everyone took in as a requiem for September 11th. And, I don't know, I think if someone wanted to perform the song in concert for that reason, I don't see anyone saying,"Hey, you didn't know Billie Joe's father. What right do you have playing that song?" But even if there is no reason, other than they really like the song and think they can pull off a reasonably musically faithful version, then I say let them do what they want to do.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jul 20, 2007 21:02:23 GMT -5
Just to correct...both of those songs wre recorded. I believe Sunday Bloody Sunday was on the Misery Business vinyl sold in the UK and My Hero was originally acoustic and on the Sound of Superman soundtrack.
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Post by crash46 on Jul 20, 2007 23:23:22 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with a band with only one album under their belts performing a cover of a song by one of their influences or idols, but it just rubs me the wrong way when it's a song everyone knows. Doesn't really make it look like they've followed the influence too closely and one could suspect them of simply trying to keep ahold of the audience's attention. That may not necessarily be their intention, but when they've paid no dues at all, it's too early to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jul 21, 2007 3:30:37 GMT -5
Hell, Quietdrive (who?) is finding themselves a Pop hit with a cover of the well-worn "Time After Time."
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Post by pen on Jul 21, 2007 4:55:39 GMT -5
1. Paramore is a young band, but what dues do they exactly need to pay?
2. Quietdrive is a great band that deserves better than to get big off of a cover.
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Post by crash46 on Jul 21, 2007 18:28:58 GMT -5
I just prefer to see bands establish themselves with their own material. Notice how I never said anything about "Working Class Hero". Green Day can do whatever they please at this point. They've made it. Paramore's own material already sounds almost exactly like 1000 other bands from the past 3 years when they're just arriving at the scene now, and they've delivered covers of two modern rock staples to the public ear. That's two strikes, and I wish I'd never found out about those because by now I'd say I actually like "Misery Business", and it's too bad I have all this other crap now standing in the way of my respect for them.
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Post by pen on Jul 21, 2007 19:13:41 GMT -5
Okay, well for one, the band formed in 2004 and they've had an album prior to Riot, so I'd say that even if they haven't had to thrive in the underground like a lot of other bands, they've at least got enough touring behind them at this point to know how the game works.
For another, a lot of bands in that scene contribute covers to one cause or another. Hell, do you realize just how many compilations and tribute albums actually come out of the emo/punk scene? Every band in that scene has a cover on an album somewhere.
Finally, I stand by my point that they have never released a cover as a single. Maybe it's been recorded somewhere, but they're not exactly using them to gain popularity.
I still don't see what the problem here is. Lots of bands when they first start out play cover songs until they write their own material. Paramore on the other hand has written two albums worth of material. I think they're allowed to at least do one cover once in a while.
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Post by crash46 on Jul 21, 2007 22:57:42 GMT -5
I'm aware of the punk scene and their covers, and there are very few of them that ever interest me.
I wouldn't blame the band if one of their covers were released because that isn't their call. It is their call to go into the studio and record it. I would be wary though of the label backstabbing them and sending these remakes for radio adds, looking for the next "The Boys Of Summer", because their shit's ruined if that happens.
I am blowing this out of proportion. Because I'm getting impatient. There was never anything not to like about Garbage. There wasn't anything not to like about No Doubt until Gwen stepped aside and recorded a bunch of ridiculous solo tracks. I'm only looking for a female-fronted rock act that I can love. There have been none this decade. Plenty of good ones, but there's always something to pick nits about, it seems. It's just frustration.
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