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Post by allow that on Oct 2, 2003 12:57:44 GMT -5
After about 2 months of slowly climbing the Pop chart with spin gans right around +100, the follow-up to "Unwell" finally seems to be picking up all of a sudden. It's in the Top 30 with its spin trend tripled. Maybe this will make a steady climb to the Top 10 afterall. With "Unwell" most likely going recurrent this week, hopefully some of the stations holding out on this one will finally add it.
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Post by arebomb on Oct 2, 2003 13:55:48 GMT -5
I don't know what "Bright Lights" is going to end up doing, but with the awards season coming up in the next few months, does anyone thing that matchbox twenty may have a chance to really score big by the time the Grammys roll around?
I think this could be the year that mb20 breaks through and wins a few awards...I know that matchbox twenty have never been Grammy favorites, but they have been nominated in the rock categories for "Push" and "Bent" before. To me, "Unwell" just kind of seems like the type of tune that the Grammy voters seem to enjoy and I think they could pull in a few noms. When you add to the fact that mb20 is somewhat of a veteran artist and they are the only band of the era when the Hot-AC type of rock music was huge on pop that are still cranking out big hits I think they have a really good chance at winning a Grammy or two. Also, matchbox twenty has been getting a little bit of love from the minor award shows. matchbox are up for a couple of awards at the Radio Music Awards and they are nominated for favorite Pop-Rock band and the Viewer's Choice award at the AMAs.
If "Bright Lights" becomes a decent sized hit and mb20 score a few trophies during the awards season I think they could ride the wave of momentum to increased album sales and maybe come close to the range of the sales that they got for "Mad Season." I know that its a bold prediction to say that "More Than You Think You Are" is going to sell two million more copies when it hasn't even sold that in its first year on the shelves, but I think it could happen.
If "Bright Lights" does become successful enough to warrant a fourth single, what do you guys think would be the best choice?
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Post by FreakyFlyBry on Oct 2, 2003 14:14:46 GMT -5
:) Nice to see "Bright Lights" becoming the hit it deserves to be. I hope it can go top 10.
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Post by Rural Juror on Oct 2, 2003 15:16:23 GMT -5
I was shocked to see BL in the top 30 when I checked Mediabase just a little while ago. I don't know how successful BL will be but I don't think it will equal or surpass Unwell's success. Here's hoping it does though. ;)
As for the Grammys, it would be a travesty if Unwell doesn't get nominated in the top categories (Record and Song of the Year). That alone would be huge. There's no way they would ignore this song because it was such a massive hit and was everywhere this year. Plus, it's one of the better songs by a solid band that was released this year. It would be wonderful if they could pull off a win in one of the major categories. The band has come a loooong way from being called 'one hit wonders' and it's about time they get recognized for being one of the enduring pop/rock bands of our time. You can't say that with a lot of bands out right now.
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Post by Rural Juror on Oct 2, 2003 15:19:28 GMT -5
Forgot to add my choice for the fourth single. I want it to be All I Need. I have a feeling it would do very well since it's a very catchy song and has a great feel-good vibe to it.
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Post by Eyeball on Oct 2, 2003 15:34:34 GMT -5
Hopefully this starts losing lots of spins, really fast. MB20 is SO overrated. And the song is incredibly bland.
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Post by allow that on Oct 2, 2003 15:43:11 GMT -5
Forgot to add my choice for the fourth single. I want it to be All I Need. I have a feeling it would do very well since it's a very catchy song and has a great feel-good vibe to it. "All I Need' sounds good to me. Either that of "Cold," which is the "Bent" of this album, but better IMO. I'd also like to see "Downfall" released since it's so good and so different, with the gospel choir addition. I think it could fit radio, but it's still kind of iffy. |
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Post by Hervard on Oct 2, 2003 15:52:49 GMT -5
In another thread, I mentioned how much this song sounds like Train's "Drops Of Jupiter". Didn't that song also start out rather slow but then eventually catch on? I wonder if this song could have the same success?
Then again, that's sort of comparing apples to oranges, as DOJ was the first single off that album while "Bright Lights" is the third, and with a preceding single that was so huge and will probably be played as a recurrent for quite some time. I definitely don't see "Bright Lights" taking off on the A/C chart, as "Unwell" will probably be on there for quite some time - possibly longer than "If You're Gone".
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 2, 2003 16:20:39 GMT -5
"All I Need' sounds good to me. Either that of "Cold," which is the "Bent" of this album, but better IMO. I'd also like to see "Downfall" released since it's so good and so different, with the gospel choir addition. I think it could fit radio, but it's still kind of iffy. Nooo... not "All I Need". It's not terrible, but I think it would be the worst release of their career. "Cold" or "Downfall" would be cool, though. |
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Post by ExActLy99 on Oct 2, 2003 16:25:53 GMT -5
It's great to the song gaining more!  I still think it will slowly rise into the Top 10, like "Unwell" only not peaking as high. The next release I think should be, I don't know "The Difference" has always sounded good to me, it's a really good ballad, I don't know "All I Need" is just not the way to end the album, it's just not like Unwell and Bright Lights, it has a bad sound compared to those. I'd go with either "The Difference", "Cold", or "Could I Be You" |
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Post by Keith3000 on Oct 2, 2003 19:38:19 GMT -5
I agree. MB20 have been around for a long time and hopefully the Grammys can finally recognize their excellence in the top categories. "Unwell" was a huge hit chart-wise, but chart success is not a criteria for the Grammys, nor will it affect a song's chances of winning after being nominated. The song definitely has high quality...I guess we'll see what happens.
Regarding BL, yeah, I think this song will go places. Now that "Unwell" is slowly fading from radio, expect this track to start a good climb up the charts.
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Post by radiorules on Oct 2, 2003 20:32:39 GMT -5
Am i the only one that thinks MB20 will not get nominated in the major categories at the Grammy's? I mean sure the song was a hit but it was a sleeper hit, not one of those massive songs that blew up and caused a lot of talk and stuff. The song was a very queit hit and there was no fuss over it, and even though everyone claims the Grammy's don't judge by how big a song is to win "Record Of The Year", i think they somewhat do, so that's why i don't think they will will win anything from the major categories. I would call "Unwell" the "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" of the song world, while all the other songs like "In Da Club" "Miss Independent" "Beautiful" "Rock Your Body" "Crazy In Love" "Where Is The Love" and "I'm With You" were more like the Spiderman's and Matrix of the song world.
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Post by mst3k on Oct 2, 2003 20:58:50 GMT -5
I would call "Unwell" the "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" of the song world, while all the other songs like "In Da Club" "Miss Independent" "Beautiful" "Rock Your Body" "Crazy In Love" "Where Is The Love" and "I'm With You" were more like the Spiderman's and Matrix of the song world. And which one of those movies was nominated for the Oscar for Best Screenplay? ;) |
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Post by FriendsFan on Oct 2, 2003 21:12:46 GMT -5
Good follow up to "Unwell," I really hope this does well. Top 10 possibily.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 3, 2003 10:47:49 GMT -5
Am i the only one that thinks MB20 will not get nominated in the major categories at the Grammy's? I mean sure the song was a hit but it was a sleeper hit, not one of those massive songs that blew up and caused a lot of talk and stuff. The song was a very queit hit and there was no fuss over it, and even though everyone claims the Grammy's don't judge by how big a song is to win "Record Of The Year", i think they somewhat do, so that's why i don't think they will will win anything from the major categories. I would call "Unwell" the "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" of the song world, while all the other songs like "In Da Club" "Miss Independent" "Beautiful" "Rock Your Body" "Crazy In Love" "Where Is The Love" and "I'm With You" were more like the Spiderman's and Matrix of the song world. The only song of that list I can see getting nominated in Record of the Year is 'Miss Independent' and MAYBE 'Beautiful' with an outside chance of 'In Da Club' and 'Rock Your Body'. The Grammy's don't favour the huge hits. BSB had huge hit after huge hit and they only got like one or two nominations of their career, didn't they? Same with 'N Sync. Meanwhile, Record and Song of the Year went to 'Change The World' and 'Sunny Came Home' in 97 and 98. Those were decent sized hits but they weren't HUGE! I forget who else has won since then but I disagree 99% with radiorules. Meanwhile, will Avril even be eligable for anything this year? She will probably get no nominations. |
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Post by allow that on Oct 3, 2003 11:52:14 GMT -5
"Bright Lights" gains are even up from yesterday.... +340 today... and +204 over at Hot AC. I guess stations simultaneously decided it's time for the song to kick in.
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Post by j on Oct 3, 2003 11:57:35 GMT -5
Simultaneously? Maybe it's payola.
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Post by JCMF3 on Oct 3, 2003 12:01:13 GMT -5
Simultaneously? Maybe it's payola. Urgh, why is this always the assumption? >:( >:( Couldn't it just be that Unwell is faltering on both formats and so more stations are adding the newer song? Couldn't it be that now that Bright Lights has entered the top 30 of pop some stations are like "wow, this is getting to be a great song. We should play it more." Couldn't it be that Hot AC stations are looking for newer music to replace an aging top 10? |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 3, 2003 12:09:34 GMT -5
This song is growing on me. I hope it does not get overplayed to the point that I hate it. I might buy their...new old cd (its not exactly new anymore lol)
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Post by allow that on Oct 3, 2003 12:20:28 GMT -5
Simultaneously? Maybe it's payola. I do not want this to turn into a Payola thread, but I'll just add this. I don't see Atlantic payolaing this song.... they know the 15 year old teeny boppers who listen to Pop radio won't be purchasing a MB20 album no matter what, so why wouldn't they save their Payola for the Avril/Pink/J. Lo/B2K types? |
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Post by j on Oct 3, 2003 14:27:02 GMT -5
Urgh, why is this always the assumption? >:( >:( Urgh, why was a simple idle suggestion called an assumption? >:( >:( I never said I believed it or assumed payola. But the possibility is still there. Anything's possible. |
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Post by Radical347 on Oct 3, 2003 19:39:40 GMT -5
The only song of that list I can see getting nominated in Record of the Year is 'Miss Independent' and MAYBE 'Beautiful' with an outside chance of 'In Da Club' and 'Rock Your Body'. The Grammy's don't favour the huge hits. BSB had huge hit after huge hit and they only got like one or two nominations of their career, didn't they? Same with 'N Sync. Meanwhile, Record and Song of the Year went to 'Change The World' and 'Sunny Came Home' in 97 and 98. Those were decent sized hits but they weren't HUGE! I forget who else has won since then but I disagree 99% with radiorules. Meanwhile, will Avril even be eligable for anything this year? She will probably get no nominations. Actually, "Change the World" and "Sunny Came Home" were huge that year... both were #2 pop hits and finished very high on the year-end chart. Not to mention they were huge on Hot AC and probably AC too. Both those songs were certainly not any less of hits than any of BSB's pre-1999 singles and definitely bigger than all of NSYNC's pre-2000 singles. It's just that "Change the World" and "Sunny Came Home" seemed like lesser hits than anything by BSB or NSYNC because BSB and NSYNC's fans were 100 times more annoying. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 4, 2003 14:20:22 GMT -5
I suppose, yeah, but as artists on the pop chart, nowadays and even then, they weren't huge or really big and they didn't have sales the way Beyounce does now, and whoever else was mentioned for Record of the Year predictions. I just don't think the nominees will be all big pop hits because they never are.
Doesn't John Waitt have a new album out? He'll be nominated for Best Pop Album.
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Post by allow that on Oct 4, 2003 15:22:07 GMT -5
It just keeps getting stonger and stronger. +375 now. I think this'll be huge around the holiday season.
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Post by JCMF3 on Oct 4, 2003 18:42:52 GMT -5
Urgh, why was a simple idle suggestion called an assumption? >:( >:( You don't give idle suggestions! ;)  |
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Post by ExActLy99 on Oct 4, 2003 18:46:34 GMT -5
I'm thinking the same thing, this song has that holdiay-feel to it, the piano and the coming home, it all works together. I predict the song will continue to gain through Christmas and won't start dropping until after New Year's but I don't know that does seem like a long time with a bullet.
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Post by Radical347 on Oct 4, 2003 22:30:12 GMT -5
It just keeps getting stonger and stronger. +375 now. I think this'll be huge around the holiday season. Yeah, and has a good fall feel to it too. Since Atlantic released it too early, I think its success was dependent on whether it could have hung around in the lower part of the chart until fall came. It has, so it'll be huge. |
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Post by ExActLy99 on Oct 5, 2003 9:46:49 GMT -5
The song is now the 8th greatest gainer! With the amount of songs right now with lower gains I think this song might be able to get higher than I previously thought, which is #7. The only big threat to this song in the near future is "Breathe" but even that has gone down into the +500's. The other 5 greatest gainers are above it. I'm not worried about this song, I think it will do very well on the chart.
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Post by ExActLy99 on Oct 5, 2003 15:52:49 GMT -5
The song is now nearing +400!! It hasn't seen a bullet like that since it's first few weeks. The highest spin gain for the song was on August 20, +546. The song has now been in the Top 40 for 6 weeks, The song will make it to #26, once "Unwell" goes recurrent. Looking ahead, next week: #24, it still may take 2-3 weeks to reach Top 20.
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Post by j on Oct 5, 2003 16:36:54 GMT -5
You don't give idle suggestions! ;) Oh yes I do. Anything less than 10 paragraphs from me should be considered an idle suggestion. |
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