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Post by ListenToMe on Oct 11, 2003 7:50:29 GMT -5
Christina gives a great vocal performance in "The Voice Within", but her best is in "Cruz", "Beautiful" and "Impossible", IMO.
I also really hope there is another single, but to be honest, I think it's unlikely as not many artists release five singles in the first place. But if there was a sixth single it should be "Cruz".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 8:14:25 GMT -5
Doesn't anyone else besides Luckie Starchild and I notice that "Impossible" sounds EXACTLY like "Ain't No Way" by Aretha Franklin? It's not even like I'm saying that they sound a little bit alike. The verses are identical to "Ain't No Way". That's why I think it shouldn't be released.
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Post by FriendsFan on Oct 11, 2003 15:23:06 GMT -5
Doesn't anyone else besides Luckie Starchild and I notice that "Impossible" sounds EXACTLY like "Ain't No Way" by Aretha Franklin? It's not even like I'm saying that they sound a little bit alike. The verses are identical to "Ain't No Way". That's why I think it shouldn't be released. Even if "Impossible" does become a single, some people have never heard of Aretha's "Ain't No Way." The people who haven't heard the song, wouldn't be able to judge the similarities. Including me! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 15:28:11 GMT -5
Even if "Impossible" does become a single, some people have never heard of Aretha's "Ain't No Way." The people who haven't heard the song, wouldn't be able to judge the similarities. Including me! Well maybe Aretha will sue her. |
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Post by M on Oct 11, 2003 15:30:17 GMT -5
....do you think a 6th single will be on the horizon?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 15:31:24 GMT -5
....do you think a 6th single will be on the horizon? I hope, but she can't follow up a pop ballad with something like "Cruz". She needs an R&B song. I think it would be perfect to release "Get Mine, Get Yours" as long as the video is tasteful. |
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Post by Caviar on Oct 11, 2003 15:35:08 GMT -5
Has there been word on when the song will go for adds?
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Post by radiorules on Oct 11, 2003 17:49:08 GMT -5
Please lets hope that there is no 6th single! I don't want Christina to be washed up like J.lo or Pink who have been releasing singles non stop for years.
The only thing i expect from Christina in 2004 besides "The Voice Within" is a soundtrack single, she should release one next year in August/September, after a few months of the radio being Christina free. And a movie role like how she said. Well now that i think about it, it would be cool if the Soundtrack single would be from her movie! And then i expect a new album from her in Fall 2005, so radio will have a lot of Christina free months.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 17:51:10 GMT -5
Please lets hope that there is no 6th single! I don't want Christina to be washed up like J.lo or Pink who have been releasing singles non stop for years. They got washed up because they released crap. If Christina can keep releasing the good material, she'll have success like Michael and Janet who did that all the time. |
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Post by M on Oct 11, 2003 18:12:49 GMT -5
They got washed up because they released crap. If Christina can keep releasing the good material, she'll have success like Michael and Janet who did that all the time. I'll second that! If a 6th single is released, they should go with "Get Mine, Get Yours", that way it'll just be a full circle to end the album. |
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Post by radiorules on Oct 11, 2003 18:28:38 GMT -5
I just thought of something, if "The Voice Within" flops, hopefully it will show what hypcorites Christina's "Complainers" are, and it will finally shut them up for once. And by "Complainers" i mean the people that do nothing but talk about her "Dirrty" image and how she should wear clothes and sing ballads instead, well here it is, if it flops, then maybe you'll shut up and realize that Christina knows what she is doing? I actually see a little hypocracy already, the people that bashed Dirrty because she is a skank in it and instead needs to show off her voice are predicting a flop for this song. "What Christina is doing what i have been hoping she would do for years? Well it's gonna flop!" It's like a lose lose situation fo Xtina!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 18:31:14 GMT -5
I just thought of something, if "The Voice Within" flops, hopefully it will show what hypcorites Christina's "Complainers" are, and it will finally shut them up for once. And by "Complainers" i mean the people that do nothing but talk about her "Dirrty" image and how she should wear clothes and sing ballads instead, well here it is, if it flops, then maybe you'll shut up and realize that Christina knows what she is doing? I actually see a little hypocracy already, the people that bashed Dirrty because she is a skank in it and instead needs to show off her voice are predicting a flop for this song. It's like a lose lose situation fo Xtina! No. "Beautiful" was a ballad and that went to #1. |
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Post by radiorules on Oct 11, 2003 18:32:24 GMT -5
No. "Beautiful" was a ballad and that went to #1. "Beautiful" would've flopped if Dirrty didn't come before it, at least imo. I really believe that these two songs needed each other and it wouldn't have worked any other way. It was like a combo release. |
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Post by M on Oct 11, 2003 18:35:58 GMT -5
I just thought of something, if "The Voice Within" flops, hopefully it will show what hypcorites Christina's "Complainers" are, and it will finally shut them up for once. And by "Complainers" i mean the people that do nothing but talk about her "Dirrty" image and how she should wear clothes and sing ballads instead, well here it is, if it flops, then maybe you'll shut up and realize that Christina knows what she is doing? I actually see a little hypocracy already, the people that bashed Dirrty because she is a skank in it and instead needs to show off her voice are predicting a flop for this song. "What Christina is doing what i have been hoping she would do for years? Well it's gonna flop!" It's like a lose lose situation fo Xtina! Would you give it a rest? We really don't need this on these boards. Besides, if this does flop, there could be many reasons that could explain why it flopped. You should really stop alienating people who complain or dislike Christina; it's their opinion. But, if you really want to say something, then say it without alienating people. It's all about respect; and it goes both ways. That's all i've got to say. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 18:40:34 GMT -5
"Beautiful" would've flopped if Dirrty didn't come before it, at least imo. I really believe that these two songs needed each other and it wouldn't have worked any other way. It was like a combo release. So basically you can manipulate this to work any way you want? |
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Post by radiorules on Oct 11, 2003 18:43:25 GMT -5
I think Christina's "Complainers" (Notice how i am not saying haters anymore) are kind of biased. BTW, if "The Voice Within" becomes a bigger hit than Fighter, CHUD, and Dirrty, then i will admit that these "Complainers" are right, Christina shouldn't use image, but i really doubt this will happen.
Rebirth, another thing i wanted to mention. "Beautiful" was a huge success, but today, do people talk more about Christina "Beautiful" image or her "Dirrty" image?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 18:50:58 GMT -5
I think you need to chill. Christina has had a great deal of success with this album. Can't you just be satisfied with that and not worry what the members of this board think?
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Post by radiorules on Oct 11, 2003 18:52:15 GMT -5
:o ??? who said anything about members of this board?  what i said was directed towards either everyone or no one. |
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Post by Keith3000 on Oct 11, 2003 18:52:24 GMT -5
So radiorules, basically what you're saying is that the only reason "Beautiful" did as well as it did is because the public saw how much "Dirrty" sucked in comparison, lol?
I don't think that makes sense at all. If anything, "Dirrty" would have led people and the radio away from Christina even more; you know how easily radio is affected by performance of debut singles. I remember when "Dirrty" first came out, so many people were ready to dismiss Stripped just like that, similarly to the way people have dismissed Madonna's latest CD. "Beautiful" would have done well even as a debut single.
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Post by radiorules on Oct 11, 2003 18:56:24 GMT -5
Kieth, i don't think "Dirrty" is a bad song, i think the reason "Beautiful" succeeded was because of "Dirrty". "I am beautiful, no matter what they say", Christina needed people to say she was ugly to sing that line, hence Dirrty. If Christina wouldv'e came off of her 18 month hiatus with "Beautiful" people would've been like "Huh? What did we say about her?" This Dirrty/Beautiful thing was a smart plan by RCA/Christina, i think they knew what they were doing. Right at the peak of the Dirrty controversy Christina threw "Beautiful" in everyone's faces and it got people to say "Hey, maybe she is right".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 18:57:40 GMT -5
Kieth, i don't think "Dirrty" is a bad song, i think the reason "Beautiful" succeeded was because of "Dirrty". "I am beautiful, no matter what they say", Christina needed people to say she was ugly to sing that line, hence Dirrty. If Christina wouldv'e came off of her 18 month hiats with "Beautiful" people would've been like "Huh? What did we say about her?" No, I really don't think so. |
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Post by radiorules on Oct 11, 2003 19:00:10 GMT -5
No, I really don't think so. Well i do, hopefully there is no problem with that, just like how i don't have a problem with you not agreeing with me. :) |
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Post by Keith3000 on Oct 11, 2003 19:00:53 GMT -5
Radiorules, you're acting like Christina expected "Dirrty" to bomb the way it did. But, as always, I guess one can never say "what if...". Had "Beautiful" been the first released song off the CD, things may have been different.
Whatever, man, "Beautiful" was a big hit anyway, so no point in us going on about this....
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Post by strong4PMB! on Oct 11, 2003 19:00:56 GMT -5
No, I really don't think so. Why does everything have to be a love thing, can we get together and just hang, is this where you really wanna go? No, I really don't think so. I predict #1. |
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Post by radiorules on Oct 11, 2003 19:04:53 GMT -5
Dirrty didn't bomb, if to this day people are still talking about it then i consider it an even bigger hit than "Fighter" and CHUD. RCA admitted they were dissapointed with the radio performance in America, but all the negative publicity they got was exactly what they thought would happen. If this isn't the case, then how come after "Beautiful" was released "Dirrty" regained it's bullet and hung around in the 30's until it went recurrent? It was because after people heard "Beautiful" they went back and appreciated "Dirrty" more.
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Post by Keith3000 on Oct 11, 2003 19:14:27 GMT -5
As far as the US charts are concerned, "Dirrty" did bomb. Just compare the song's performance on the Hot 100, for example, with that of Christina's other releases.
It may be true that people gave the song another look after "Beautiful" came out. However, let's face it---if "Dirrty" had been re-released after "Beautiful", like what happens so many times in the music business, I'm sure it still wouldn't have got much airplay or sales. I'm stating my opinion here---this is just my opinion, radiorules---when I say that "Dirrty" sucks when compared to "Beautiful" or any other of Christina's other releases. Quite frankly, I'm not surprised it did badly in the States, and was quite amazed with its success in Europe and the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2003 19:16:01 GMT -5
However, let's face it---if "Dirrty" had been re-released after "Beautiful", like what happens so many times in the music business, I'm sure it still wouldn't have got much airplay or sales. That's because "Dirrty" only flopped as far as airplay went. The song got massive promo. |
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Post by M on Oct 11, 2003 19:19:44 GMT -5
Dirrty didn't bomb, if to this day people are still talking about it then i consider it an even bigger hit than "Fighter" and CHUD. RCA admitted they were dissapointed with the radio performance in America, but all the negative publicity they got was exactly what they thought would happen. If this isn't the case, then how come after "Beautiful" was released "Dirrty" regained it's bullet and hung around in the 30's until it went recurrent? It was because after people heard "Beautiful" they went back and appreciated "Dirrty" more. Maybe, the ONLY reason people talk about "Dirrty" is because there's always someone bringing it up beforehand. I don't know...it might just be me. Bottomline: What's done is done. You can speculate all you want about how big it could've been blah blah blah. End of discussion. |
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Post by Keith3000 on Oct 11, 2003 19:23:24 GMT -5
Actually, "Dirrty" got enough CHR/Pop airplay to take it to #12 on the pop charts. However, it got hardly any airplay on other formats and wasn't even released as a single (if it was released, it may have performed like "Loverboy" if it was lucky). It just wasn't radio-friendly. I, for one, don't like the song, but we all have our own opinions. No point in contemplating why it bombed, or whether things would have been different under different circumstances.
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Post by Keith3000 on Oct 11, 2003 19:24:59 GMT -5
Maybe, the ONLY reason people talk about "Dirrty" is because there's always someone bringing it up beforehand. And I wonder which Christina fan M is talking about....? ;) |
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