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Post by skat on Oct 15, 2004 18:11:48 GMT -5
Every single one of the songs from 'Britney' performed the same way as this song. Or worse. This song is performing similarly to "Not a Girl." The last 2 singles from 'Britney' peaked in the 30's. Her worst performing single though was from the "Oops" album. So yeah, it's nothing new for her. It's more common for her to have flops than hits on the radio.
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Post by Peach on Oct 15, 2004 18:37:21 GMT -5
So yeah, it's nothing new for her. It's more common for her to have flops than hits on the radio. No kidding. It's ridiculous to say MP's bullet will rebound. Jive will just give it up and move onto the next single. Nothing new here.
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Post by Marv on Oct 16, 2004 0:35:53 GMT -5
The core audience of CHR/Pop radio (12-24 year-olds) is sick of her. Some of them wrote her off when the first single from her second CD (Oops...) sounded like an exact copy of her first single (Baby...) and stopped taking her seriously.
Lots of others have joined them since.
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Post by skat on Oct 16, 2004 1:40:49 GMT -5
The core audience of CHR/Pop radio (12-24 year-olds) is sick of her. Some of them wrote her off when the first single from her second CD (Oops...) sounded like an exact copy of her first single (Baby...) and stopped taking her seriously. Did you conduct your surveys by mail or phone?
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Post by specialist on Oct 16, 2004 1:49:08 GMT -5
LMAO. I'm sure you've been saying this since 1999. Never has it been more true. Jive isn't wasting any money. They're chucking out this "Hits" album, a mere year after her last release, (and a mere 5 years into her career ), to make a quick, final bit of money off her, and then they're rid of her, what with it being the last album on the contract. They, like most others, know that she's done.
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Post by bluenote on Oct 16, 2004 2:53:53 GMT -5
Did you conduct your surveys by mail or phone? I think they were conducted within that small mind they have.
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Post by msanoja on Oct 16, 2004 3:55:08 GMT -5
Never has it been more true. Jive isn't wasting any money. They're chucking out this "Hits" album, a mere year after her last release, (and a mere 5 years into her career ), to make a quick, final bit of money off her, and then they're rid of her, what with it being the last album on the contract. They, like most others, know that she's done. Raieven?
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Post by allow that on Oct 16, 2004 10:35:11 GMT -5
This is just about done at even the video outlets. It drops 14-19 on VH1's countdown this week. I was shocked to see it falling already, because unlike the song, the video is actually quality.
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Post by Peach on Oct 16, 2004 11:39:55 GMT -5
Parts of the video are good, others aren't. I'm surprised to hear it's falling so quickly.
Actually, a #20 or so peak for her isn't too bad, but I had expected that the first single from her GH album would be much bigger.
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Post by Dee on Oct 16, 2004 11:49:22 GMT -5
Is it really true that she is going to release a 2nd single from her GH?
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Post by benmcd2000 on Oct 16, 2004 12:24:54 GMT -5
This song is actually growing on me big time! I hated it at first, but now, after hearing it in the clubs and seeing the smokin video, I love it! I am kinda surprised it’s almost finished at Top 40. Could it have something to do with Britney rapidly losing touch with her fanbase?
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Post by Kimmers on Oct 16, 2004 13:03:54 GMT -5
LMAO She's not going anywhere. You might as well accept it rather than continuing on being disappointed.
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Post by skat on Oct 16, 2004 13:31:47 GMT -5
Could it have something to do with Britney rapidly losing touch with her fanbase? Do people say this every time one of her singles flops?! It's getting kind of old.
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Post by friend on Oct 16, 2004 13:31:56 GMT -5
I think this song got lost in the suffle of other songs. I still think it'll regain some momentum, but it looks like Jive isn't putting much effort/money into Britney anymore. She's not the fresh teenager she once was.
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Post by gbaby on Oct 16, 2004 16:51:32 GMT -5
Is it really true that she is going to release a 2nd single from her GH? I think they might release "(I've Just Begun) Having My Fun", but don't take my word for it. I'm just speculating here. And --- *sigh* --- I really like this song. It sucks that it's doing poorly. :'(
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Oct 16, 2004 18:17:40 GMT -5
I was in the car today and Lindsay Lohan's "Rumors" came on, but it was just the beginning instrumental and I swear at first I thought it was "My Prerogative".
It's kinda funny to me that this song totally bombed. The album is still more than 3 weeks away, so either we are going to see the song get an increase in spins due to payola, or they will put another new song out there and payola that to ensure it gets some success, at least Top 15, to last a little while following the albums release, and then call it a day after the album tops out at around 2 million.
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Post by britneyrocks18 on Oct 17, 2004 10:41:45 GMT -5
Never has it been more true. Jive isn't wasting any money. They're chucking out this "Hits" album, a mere year after her last release, (and a mere 5 years into her career ), to make a quick, final bit of money off her, and then they're rid of her, what with it being the last album on the contract. They, like most others, know that she's done. You know a lot about Britney and her Management to be a hater ;)
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Post by friend on Oct 17, 2004 11:33:44 GMT -5
Looks like the official peak is 21. I predicted top 15, and wasn't too far off.
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Post by Jens on Oct 17, 2004 12:22:42 GMT -5
I hate Britney to death, but I have to admit that the song is pretty good and the video is nice, too. But on the other hand I'm glad that the song flops because this probably means a loooong break from Britney!
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Post by JCMF3 on Oct 17, 2004 14:32:33 GMT -5
I hate Britney to death, but I have to admit that the song is pretty good and the video is nice, too. But on the other hand I'm glad that the song flops because this probably means a loooong break from Britney! Well, at least till her next single hits radio possibly before the end of the year! ;) Honestly, I don't know what Jive is gonna do, but I wouldn't doubt if they just want to get rid of Britney...
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 17, 2004 14:35:30 GMT -5
Why on earth would they want to get rid of Britney?
Here is a question for more knowledgeable people than me.... Did the profits from the album and Toxic and Everytime and MATM being hits (or semi hits-I know MATM is debatable) offset the money put into the effort of making it a hit in the first place?
(Did that question make sense?)
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Post by tidetoit on Oct 17, 2004 15:07:13 GMT -5
Why on earth would they want to get rid of Britney? Here is a question for more knowledgeable people than me.... Did the profits from the album and Toxic and Everytime and MATM being hits (or semi hits-I know MATM is debatable) offset the money put into the effort of making it a hit in the first place? (Did that question make sense?) A laymans opinion: Britney has not been very diligent in her work ethic or fanbase preservation lately. Britneys marriage and its consequences to her image concerns Jive. Britney is not appearing in high profile endorsment deals these days. Britney just wrote (purportedly) a letter trivializing her own fanbase and desire to escape her fame and garrishly taunted her fellow "blonde" competitiors. It was a dumb ill advised correspondance to her fans. Jive has probably had to invest far more in production fees and promotion for Britney than other artists and still sales were not spectacular. They have done a marvelous job and probably see the future as far less profitable for their alliance with Britney and want to end it or slow it down and take profit while the opportunity exists.
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Post by Kimmers on Oct 17, 2004 15:53:23 GMT -5
A laymans opinion: Britney has not been very diligent in her work ethic or fanbase preservation lately. Britneys marriage and its consequences to her image concerns Jive. Britney is not appearing in high profile endorsment deals these days. Britney just wrote (purportedly) a letter trivializing her own fanbase and desire to escape her fame and garrishly taunted her fellow "blonde" competitiors. It was a dumb ill advised correspondance to her fans. Jive has probably had to invest far more in production fees and promotion for Britney than other artists and still sales were not spectacular. They have done a marvelous job and probably see the future as far less profitable for their alliance with Britney and want to end it or slow it down and take profit while the opportunity exists. Oh Yes who is making money for them now? R. Kelly's latest didn't do so great. Justin's not into the music industry anymore.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Oct 17, 2004 15:56:28 GMT -5
Jive has probably had to invest far more in production fees and promotion for Britney than other artists and still sales were not spectacular. They have done a marvelous job and probably see the future as far less profitable for their alliance with Britney and want to end it or slow it down and take profit while the opportunity exists. Bull. Any album moving over 7 million units worldwide is going to be profitable. She's still raking in the dough for them and there's no way in hell they'll let her leave after this GH.
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Post by tidetoit on Oct 17, 2004 16:44:58 GMT -5
Bull. Any album moving over 7 million units worldwide is going to be profitable. She's still raking in the dough for them and there's no way in hell they'll let her leave after this GH. I'm a layman in music trend and forecasting artists future projections but I'm not a layman in business. If I owned any part of Britneys contract I'd be looking for a buyer.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 17, 2004 16:52:36 GMT -5
Once again, what are Britney's exact sales of her album? I know I asked in another topic but I forgot which one. I thought Britellectual said that ITZ sits at 6.4 million right now (or within the past 2 weeks). But everyone is saying she is well above 7 million so I may have mistaken what he said? (I always trust Britellectual-he is the Britney God. Wait...I think he calls himself something else on here-gah) Anyways, my point in asking what I did is that...everyone seems to view Britney as a money making god who is raking in millions upon millions of profit for herself and everyone who is even remotely associated with her. To me...it would seem like the effort placed in promotion, production, and push of her as a product would eat into this profit. So I think she is making a profit, but not as much as people like to claim. I bet her expenses as an artist are extremely high.
However, I have a hard time believing they are so high that Jive is willing to drop her and be done with her.
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Post by friend on Oct 17, 2004 17:03:51 GMT -5
I think Jive realizes Britney isn't the money-making queen she use to be. Britney doesn't have the appeal she once had. She was a 16-year old, virgin blonde-bombshell who had a decent voice and decent dance moves. They marketed her sexy and provocative, thus getting MANY groups of people interested. There's only so many times you can market the same thing. With each album, Britney seems to continue to over-sex her image, but there comes a point when people lose interest. I think that's what's happening now. I think it's also happening with Christina and Jessica...no one is really interested anymore. It's time to bring on a new generation, although Hilary isn't having much success anymore. I think this is a perfect time for Britney to take a hiatus, live a somewhat normal life, and get her priorities straight. She's been a puppet for Jive the past six years...give her some freedom and room. I can't make a solid prediction what's gonna happen to Britney in the future, but if she were to die out tomorrow, she's made a lasting impression on Pop Culture.
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Post by WhySoSerious? on Oct 17, 2004 17:04:35 GMT -5
I'm a layman in music trend and forecasting artists future projections but I'm not a layman in business. If I owned any part of Britneys contract I'd be looking for a buyer. And neither am I. To assume that her label would be interested in getting rid of her is absurd. No way is she not one of their more profitable artists.
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Post by Bcacb on Oct 17, 2004 17:22:29 GMT -5
So do y'all think Jive will make a new contract for Britney offering a HUGE amount of money? Is it possible for her to break Mariah or Janet's record (I can't remember who has it, if it's either of them) of the highest paid female artist?
Thanks, Ben
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Post by Pink Champagne Ricochet on Oct 17, 2004 17:27:33 GMT -5
Don't forget, there's the law of diminishing returns. Each Britney album has sold less than the last (at least between Baby One More Time/Oops! to Britney/ITZ). Didn't the MATM video cost over $1 million to make? I heard that somewhere. Not to mention that it seems that Britney no longer has an interest in her own career anymore. They have to spend more on videos and other types of promo b/c of that. Has Britney done a single "live" (loose definition here) performance of "My Perogative" on ANY tv show or other venue? When was the last time she's done an interview about something that isn't Kevin Federline? Why would Jive want to keep her if she doesn't care? They'd probably rather get another blonde teenager on the cheap. Whether that other girl would gain the fraction of the success of Britney is unknown; but the exhorbitant contract it would prolly take to re-sign Britney would probably be too much for as little work as she seems to put into it these days. If they actually gave her a huge deal, IMO it would be an even worse debacle than the Mariah/Virgin situation. Most labels are probably put off by those exhorbitant price tags these days, especially for someone whose popularity and success has been more based on performance, dance, and looks than singing.
I think Jive pushed this song a bit too early. If they had waited a few weeks, it'd still be going when the GH comes out. At this point, they'll most likely have to rush out the other new track. And hell, would they actually get Ms. Spears to come in and film yet another video for it?
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