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Post by kim8 on Jul 18, 2008 15:50:13 GMT -5
Hmmm, maybe this is part of the reason for not releasing a new song from a new album. No time to promote it??
Tim McGraw gets low with new movie Friday, July 18, 2008 – Tim McGraw is working on a movie with Robert Duvall. "Get Low" is slated to see the light of day in 2009. There was no word on what the movie was about. Aaron Schneider is the director. The movie comes from a screenplay and story from Chris Provenzano. Schneider won an Oscar in 2004 for best short film, live action for "Two Soldiers."
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Post by someguy on Jul 20, 2008 9:57:06 GMT -5
Interesting choice. I just assumed this album was done (but, then again, I assumed the same thing after "Suspicions" peaked). I think this is a pretty good choice - this song would have been third on my list of songs to release (after "Between The River And Me" and "Train #10"), so I can't complain about it. After "I Need You", I think it's also the best sing that they've chosen to release from the album.
Still though, after two relative 'flops' for Tim, and a year and a half after the beginning of this project, my hopes for the performance of this song aren't as high as they would've been. I do think this will go top 10, but probably not top 5.
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Post by kw9461 on Jul 25, 2008 17:36:20 GMT -5
This was posted in the country news topic, but it bears repeating in here.
Country Q&A Week of July 23, 2008 By Neil Haislop
Q: Neil, can you tell me why a record company has the say in when a record is released? Why can't the artist have a say so? Tim McGraw was telling all of his fans about his newest single he was singing on tour, "You Had To Be There", would be on radio by this time, but now information has changed. According to what I have heard, they put his new album on hold. Tim's fans are still waiting for his new release and yet the stations are supposed to play "Let It Go" from his last album. What gives? (Myra, Breese, IL)
A: Myra, there was a recent change at Tim McGraw's record label with the Asylum part of Curb/Asylum splitting off. That caused some changes in the upper-level staff at Curb Records. The label is still re-grouping or, as some rumors propose, they're considering divesting themselves of the country division. So, it was just logical that they would release an interim song until the dust settles one way or the other.
------ Very interesting stuff. Since Curb isn't owned by either of the major record conglomorates (i think that's right word), would Curb artists simply be out of a record deal if the label dropped the country division? Obviously Tim wouldn't have any trouble finding a new home (and I'm sure it couldn't hurt his future singles choices), but the same can't be said for some others. I don;t think we've had a major label dissolve since Dreamworks did 4 or 5 years ago (and even then Mercury retained many of the DreamWorks artists).
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Post by zaclord on Jul 25, 2008 18:40:29 GMT -5
ooh that would suck if Curb vanished from Country. many artists would be out for good. Jo Dee certainly could, and Heidi Newfield could and other fabulous country singers. that would be a bad thing for lots of people
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Post by kw9461 on Jul 25, 2008 19:31:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I know Curb is crappy about picking singles, but they have some really great artists on the payroll that would be looking for a label (Heidi, LeAnn, Clay Walker, Rodney Atkins, Jo Dee, Lee Brice, ect) in a pretty crowded market. I'd hate to see someone like Heidi go the way of Tim Rushlow, who fell victim to his label disolving just as first solo record was released.
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Post by S4C on Jul 25, 2008 20:28:42 GMT -5
Since Asylum "split off" (rather than completely disintegrating), wouldn't it take some of the artists with it? Like, those who were on Asylum-Curb? That would include:
Lee Brice Cowboy Crush Cledus T. Judd Heidi Newfield LeAnn Rimes Rio Grand Clay Walker Hank Williams Jr. Wynonna
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 25, 2008 20:54:05 GMT -5
Curb divesting its country division? Oh no! What will Jeff Carson, Bomshel, Hal Ketchum, The Bellamy Brothers, and Sawyer Brown do?
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Post by zaclord on Jul 25, 2008 20:55:04 GMT -5
good point. hopefully that happens, just so some people can keep a record label
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Post by kw9461 on Jul 25, 2008 21:38:42 GMT -5
Since Asylum "split off" (rather than completely disintegrating), wouldn't it take some of the artists with it? Like, those who were on Asylum-Curb? That would include: Lee Brice Cowboy Crush Cledus T. Judd Heidi Newfield LeAnn Rimes Rio Grand Clay Walker Hank Williams Jr. Wynonna That's a good point, although I can't find any mension of any country artists on asylum's website, and Curb's has a full page add promoting Heidi Newfield's new album before you even get to thier homepage. It's very possible that the split isn't yet final though, because i think something like that would at the very least warrant a press release from involved parties.
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Post by rowdawg21 on Jul 27, 2008 11:01:58 GMT -5
Almost two weeks after being sent out to radio, "Let It Go" is not in Mediabase's top 50. Ouch.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Jul 28, 2008 12:29:16 GMT -5
it was the 9th biggest spin gainer of the weeek....dont know how much that matters though.
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Post by Jonsolo on Jul 28, 2008 13:14:48 GMT -5
it was the 9th biggest spin gainer of the weeek....dont know how much that matters though. Exactly. 9th largest is nothing to brag about. The 2nd and 3rd weeks on the chart is typically where you'll see the superstar artists make a big splash, and make leaps up in chart positions of the +15 to +20 variety. But instead of Timmy doing a cannonball into the chart pool off of the high dive, he's easing his way in, like an old man into a warm bath.
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Post by zaclord on Jul 29, 2008 12:19:20 GMT -5
i wonder why he isn't on Mediabase yet. according to this he should be top 40 oh, now he is #48.
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Post by Marv on Jul 29, 2008 14:37:31 GMT -5
This is unquestionably the lowest debut (#50 @ Country Aircheck) of any of his singles since he became a superstar.
Since this was my choice as his fifth single from what is still a very good CD, I'd certainly hope that he doesn't miss the top ten again after missing on back-to-back top tens for the first time since the very early stages of his career.
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Post by kevin59 on Jul 30, 2008 18:29:44 GMT -5
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Post by pipi on Aug 2, 2008 6:30:24 GMT -5
interesting and sad news about Curb, but I guess that is where the industry is at.
And Tim - LMAO, what a ridiculous single choice. Suspicions, Kristofferson, and now this? ROTF. What a mess. After 'Reading This' they should have just put out 'Rive and Me' and been done with this horrible album. His career is in trouble now.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 2, 2008 7:17:35 GMT -5
Even if Tim can bounce back from this his career wil never be what it was before. He's ruined himself.
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Post by austin on Aug 3, 2008 14:22:21 GMT -5
The CD, in my opinion, was one of his best. He will never be able to top Set This Circus Down as far as song quality goes, but this CD had several GREAT songs on it and a few songs that would have made killer singles.
"Between the River and Me" is probably my all-time favorite song in his catalog, and "The Whiskey and You" as well as "Train #10" would have done very well at radio.
I happen to like "Suspicions" very much, and I know I am in the minority but I was OK with it as a single. It's "Kristofferson" I had a problem with.
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Post by kw9461 on Aug 4, 2008 20:15:08 GMT -5
Here's a pretty entertaining review from the 9513. The reviewer feels pretty much the same way the rest of us do about the "Let It Go" era.
"The release of the title track from Tim McGraw’s album, Let It Go, extends a series of bizarre decisions, creating a case study on how not to manage an album. Despite having one of the top selling tours in country music, he only has one chart topper to his name among his past eleven releases. What makes the decision to release “Let It Go” odd is the fact that McGraw allegedly told concert-goers to expect a new album this fall, and although no date has been set in stone, the slow playlist rotation at radio makes it hard to believe that the next single will have enough time to adequately generate anticipation for a new album. In addition, “Let It Go” isn’t a strong enough song to significantly boost sales of his current album, but I don’t think radio is ready to let him go just yet, so it still has a chance to do well.
The song avoids becoming a motivational sermon by having the narrator focus inward, upon himself, but all we learn is that he’s trying to put the skeletons in his closet behind him and move on. Ultimately, without any sort of supporting story, the lyric is uninteresting and generic; in fact, it’s generic enough to be applicable to nearly any situation and only has as much meaning as the listener is willing to give it.
Lines like “It’s like carrying around the past in a hundred pound sack” and “Skeletons and Ghosts are hiding in the shadows” aren’t pretty or original, but are generally effective. McGraw mostly seems interested in trying to create a sing along with an interesting melody and while the sound is aurally pleasing, the uninspired vocal fails to make up for the lack of substance in the lyric.
“Let It Go” fits the mold for background fodder and is good for a superficial listen, but with three of the best songs on the album left untouched, its release is a bit disappointing, and despite not making any serious missteps, the song’s generic quality and acceptance of mediocrity aren’t worth a thumbs up. I’m assuming the extra time will allow McGraw to act in an upcoming movie with Robert Duvall and who knows, we might even see a seventh single from his current album."
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Post by kim8 on Aug 6, 2008 14:29:47 GMT -5
Ok, why did this song need a radio edit? I don't get it. What they chopped off less than 15 seconds at the end of the song? It's not like it was a long song to begin with. Does every song get a radio edit now a days?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Aug 6, 2008 18:34:08 GMT -5
I like the melody but I don't think they came up with enough lyrics for it. The "Let it go-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh" is a bit annoying.
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Post by bks on Aug 12, 2008 10:28:21 GMT -5
Wow, this debuted at No. 11 this week in call-out -- very high debut for anyone and his highest in forever. Also, pulls in a very high Hit Pridector score of 92.8.
This Week At Callout America The "Power Debut" for the week is Tim McGraw's "Let It Go" debuting at No. 11 overall and No. 11 passion. Females are the drivers, ranking the song at No. 9. Men 25-34 debut at No. 14. - John Hart, Bullseye Media / R&R Update
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Post by Marv on Aug 12, 2008 16:25:33 GMT -5
That's astonishing, to put it mildly; but I don't remember three consecutive singles of his taking forever to start flying up the charts in ages, unless you go back to the singles he released between 'Indian Outlaw' and 'It's Your Love'.
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Post by someguy on Aug 12, 2008 17:02:30 GMT -5
That's a good sign. I do think this is the second best single from the album (after "I Need You"), so maybe others agree and radio will give it a shot. It'd be nice for Tim to end the album on a high note with a hit, rather than after 2 consecutive top 10 misses. "Let It Go" isn't moving that slowly, is it? Top 30 in 4 weeks for a 5th (or 6th, depending on how you look at it) single seems OK to me.
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Post by S4C on Aug 12, 2008 17:16:02 GMT -5
Wow, this debuted at No. 11 this week in call-out -- very high debut for anyone and his highest in forever. Also, pulls in a very high Hit Pridector score of 92.8. Thanks for the info. :) This is easily his best single off the album, imo (followed by Suspicions), so I'm glad it's catching on with others, too. The radio personality on my local station WKCQ introduced this song the other day.. and sounded really annoyed and sarcastic. "Well as we've been telling you Tim is supposed to have a new album out this fall. But they decided they had enough time to squeeze another single in from his latest album." lol It was so funny.
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Post by zaclord on Aug 12, 2008 17:18:48 GMT -5
this is by far my favorite single from this album.
01. Let It Go *huge gap* 02. If You're Reading This 03. Last Dollar *huge gap* 04. Kristofferson *gigantic gap* 05. I Need You *endless gap* 06. Suspicions
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Post by somebody60 on Aug 12, 2008 18:55:18 GMT -5
^I wouldn't say it's my favorite single from the album. I'd probably rate it 3rd behind If You're Reading This and I Need You, both of which I thought were great singles, but unfortunately, Curb had to release these 2 songs at the exact same time which (as others have said) I believe prevented 2 #1 hits (or at least a #1 and a Top 5).
I think this is a pretty good choice for a single. I believe it's much more radio friendly than Suspicions or Kristofferson. Having said that, since Tim has had 2 back-to-back singles that have stalled outside the Top 10, radio may not be too eager to play another song from this album, but I do think this is a much better choice than the other 2. I hope this goes Top 10.
Oddly, my least favorite single from this era is "Last Dollar", and that ended up being the only #1 hit on this album.
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Post by Marv on Aug 15, 2008 10:27:30 GMT -5
There's no doubt in my mind that coutry radio PDs have lost their faith in him; this is his third consecutive single to huff and puff its way up the charts.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 15, 2008 13:39:32 GMT -5
I'm actually starting to like this. My local stations are starting to play it.
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Post by kim8 on Aug 15, 2008 14:25:51 GMT -5
I don't really think being at #30 on R&R after only 4 weeks is "huffing and puffing" its way up the charts. Maybe it's bad by typical Tim standards, but I think a lot of artists would be thrilled to be in that position in just 4 weeks.
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