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Post by drock89 on Jul 15, 2008 9:52:46 GMT -5
The new single from Tim at radio today. Goes for adds July 28th.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jul 15, 2008 9:56:39 GMT -5
So I was hallucinating when I thought I saw a Country Aircheck ad last week touting a new (unnamed) Tim McGraw single for a new album set to be released on 21 October?
I wonder what happened?
ETA: I'll move either this or the "You Had to Be There" thread to the Non-Singles/Album Tracks forum as appropriate once we've sorted out which is the new single.
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Post by drock89 on Jul 15, 2008 10:00:13 GMT -5
I know it's this one. It's on Play and the ad last night in Country Aircheck says "Let It Go" on it. Looks like they pulled a fast one on us!
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Post by kim8 on Jul 15, 2008 10:02:47 GMT -5
What the heck? You've got to be kidding me. This is not a favorite of mine. Geez, let this album die already.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jul 15, 2008 10:03:38 GMT -5
Oh geez. What are they doing to his career?
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Post by Jonsolo on Jul 15, 2008 10:09:45 GMT -5
Maybe the new album wasn't going to be ready by October 21st, and they needed yet another single from his old album to "buy some time" until the new material is ready....
Either that or they took those "lyrical and content criticisms" of You Had To Be There that were posted here to heart, and sent it back to the writers for a re-write. They don't want to be promoting the idea of criminals not having to take responsibility for their own actions, right?
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Post by rowdawg21 on Jul 15, 2008 10:33:29 GMT -5
Well, first let me apologize for starting the "You Had To Be There" thread. Here's a list of reasons why I was confident it would be the next single:
1. Tim has been saying his new album will be out in the fall 2. Tim has been saying a lead single will be out in the summer 3. Tim has made it known that he wanted "You Had To Be There" to be the first single 4. "You Had To Be There" wasn't registered on Mediabase until the day I started the thread for it 5. "Kristofferson" fell so long ago that I think everyone figured the Let It Go album was done when a new single wasn't promptly released
So on to "Let It Go." I really don't know what to say. This is the strangest thing I've ever seen happen. I think the only reason they would release this is if the album couldn't be finished by the fall, as Jonsolo suggested. However, I can't see that being true. If that was the case, why would Tim have continually been telling his fans in concert that he would have a new album out in the fall? I saw Tim in concert toward the end of May, and he said just that. He's probably been saying that for at least two months. I hope we get an explanation from somebody because I have to think that something changed.
Anyway, I don't know what to expect this single to do. It's good enough to make the top 5, but it will be interesting to see how radio reacts to it given that they were probably gearing up for a brand new single.
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Post by Marv on Jul 15, 2008 10:53:00 GMT -5
When I saw that ad in Country Aircheck last night, I was totally perplexed.
This could have been released as a single 4-5 weeks ago after it became evident that 'Kristofferson' would huff and puff its way into the top twenty and not much farther before radio abandoned this song like no other Tim McGraw single of the past 12+ years.
No format megastar has whiffed on more choices for singles in the past four years (since 'Back When' hit #1) than Tim has, and that's really sad.
I don't know what they're doing to his career either, but releasing a new CD before the end of the year appears to be out of the question, even if this tune tanks as his last two singles did.
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Post by Jonsolo on Jul 15, 2008 11:08:58 GMT -5
Right now, he has one #1 in his last ten officially released singles. Not expecting this to make it, so that would make the stat one #1 in eleven singles.
Starting with Back When and looking backward, he had racked up ten #1s in a twelve-single span.
Quite the reversal of fortune.
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Post by Marv on Jul 15, 2008 11:34:19 GMT -5
To which I'd also add missing the top ten with back-to-back singles after missing once (Drugs Or Jesus) in the past dozen years.
This isn't going to #1 either.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Jul 15, 2008 11:51:53 GMT -5
He is honestly on the verge of dunzo after this album. This whole era has been career suicide.
I'm so pissed we have to go thru ANOTHER single from this atrocious album when he coulda pulled a Keith or Brad and released one of his old gems.
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Post by charleyno on Jul 15, 2008 13:12:53 GMT -5
The sad thing is he was suppose to release a new single from a new album before suspicions was released then before kristofferson & now let it go. He may end up deciding to release every song off of the Let It Go album well thats the way it seems to be going. Now he will probably never release "You Had To Be There" which I think is an amazing song instead he will release all the wrong tracks as singles off the next album & just let that one be an album cut.
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Post by kw9461 on Jul 15, 2008 13:32:58 GMT -5
Leave it to the fine folks at Curb records to do exactly what we thought they wouldn't do. This makes no sense at all. Had this been released as the 4th single, it would've easily made the T5, but now, after back-to-back bombs, I don't think T10 is guarenteed at all. With a strong single like You Had To Be There waiting in the wings, I don't think his career is in jeopardy just yet, but Curb is trying their best to derail their cash cow.
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Post by Jonsolo on Jul 15, 2008 14:07:47 GMT -5
He is honestly on the verge of dunzo after this album. This whole era has been career suicide. I don't know about "career suicide", but it does seem like there's been a lot of mismanagement with this album's "era". We can't forget what was going on at this time last year, with the mistake of stumbling into having two singles out at the same time (Reading This and I Need You), that by themselves would have had good chances to go to #1 (and Reading This would have been a certain smash), but together were able to distract from each other. Of course, that was more of Tim's doing, instead of Curb's fault, in wanting to play Reading This at the ACMs, causing it to take off. But he thought the song was special enough to get it out to the public as soon as possible, chart implications be damned, so I guess we have to respect that decision.
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Post by drock89 on Jul 15, 2008 14:31:59 GMT -5
Tim's publicist says there are "no problems" with the new album, such as delays, and that the decision was made to release "Let It Go" because, "we believe the title track will continue to help drive sales of the current album to double platinum."
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Post by kim8 on Jul 15, 2008 14:40:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the info--so this means the album probably won't be released in Oct, right? That wouldn't give them enough time to promote a new single from the new CD, I assume. I am completely miffed at this decision :(
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Post by rockingcountry on Jul 15, 2008 14:49:00 GMT -5
Tim and Toby both have had the same problem the last couple years. Each single has gotten progressivly worse. Glad that both of them seem to be digging their way out though.
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Post by Jonsolo on Jul 15, 2008 15:31:25 GMT -5
Tim's publicist says there are "no problems" with the new album, such as delays, and that the decision was made to release "Let It Go" because, "we believe the title track will continue to help drive sales of the current album to double platinum." That does sound a little bit like "spin" on the part of the publicist. The album's already at 1.4 mill units sold, and would probably be certified for 2 mill shipped when it gets around, what, 1.8 mill or something? And the weekly sold numbers are in the 3000 to 4000 range. Do they really think this song is going to affect sales that much, to either bump up to 5 or 6 thousand, or at least continue to remain steady? It would seem to me that Let It Go would eventually reach double-platinum on its own without the single release, perhaps a handful of months later than now expected. It would make more sense to have a new album out right in that October/November period, to really maximize out the sales, as opposed to moving the album release to next February or so.
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Post by WamuFive on Jul 15, 2008 17:42:15 GMT -5
So where was this single BEFORE the "Suspicions" debacle?! Just when I was okay with them leaving the "Let It Go" era behind and starting a clean slate, we have to endure another single!!! I don't even know what to think anymore. Granted, I would rank LIG as probably the 5th or 6th best single choice on the album (better than Suspicions, Kristoffersen, or Last Dollar) but really, it's time to "let it go", no pun intended. If they really wanted to push for double platinum, did they really think that Suspicions and Kristoffersen would be the songs that would spike album sales? Get real! Anyone who thinks those songs have mass commercial appeal must have been living under a rock since 1980. So now we're 6 singles deep into this album, and they still haven't released any of the three best songs on the album.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jul 15, 2008 20:14:30 GMT -5
I could see this one inching its way to #27, just because it's following two duds in a row.
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Post by nashvegas777 on Jul 15, 2008 20:27:53 GMT -5
Tim's publicist says there are "no problems" with the new album, such as delays, and that the decision was made to release "Let It Go" because, "we believe the title track will continue to help drive sales of the current album to double platinum." That does sound a little bit like "spin" on the part of the publicist. The album's already at 1.4 mill units sold, and would probably be certified for 2 mill shipped when it gets around, what, 1.8 mill or something? And the weekly sold numbers are in the 3000 to 4000 range. Do they really think this song is going to affect sales that much, to either bump up to 5 or 6 thousand, or at least continue to remain steady? It would seem to me that Let It Go would eventually reach double-platinum on its own without the single release, perhaps a handful of months later than now expected. It would make more sense to have a new album out right in that October/November period, to really maximize out the sales, as opposed to moving the album release to next February or so. I agree. I would not have thought anything of Curb releasing a final single from Let It Go until Tim's publicist released this statement. Honestly, if they really wanted this album to go double platinum, Curb would have sent better singles to radio in the first place. With a lackluster lead off single and 2/4 of the remaining singles being duds as well, I don't think this album had a chance of exceeding expectations even with Tim's stamp of approval on the project. Had better singles been chosen, I believe the numbers could have been better.
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Post by Marv on Jul 15, 2008 22:28:51 GMT -5
As I've stated before, 'I've Got Friends That Do' ranks easily among the 3 or 4 best songs he's ever recorded, and if that had been the follow-up to 'My Little Girl', it would undoubtedly have spent several weeks at #1, and possibly wound up #1 for the year in 2007.
'Whiskey & You' would have been my choice for the first single from 'Let It Go', followed by 'I Need You' & 'Train #10'.
If that had been the case, this CD would have reached double-platinum late last year, IMHO.
His publicist's spin job is as anemic as his last several singles choices, with the exception of 'I Need You'.
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Post by zaclord on Jul 16, 2008 0:04:17 GMT -5
well i personally like "Let It Go" but this era needs to die NOW! he is just making things worse and worse for his career.
You Had To Be There sounded like just thing he needed to get his career back on track but then Curb screwed it up again.
well i could possibly see this going top 10 because its miles better than Sus. and Kris. but i think radio might be sick of everything off this album
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Post by rockingcountry on Jul 16, 2008 6:19:57 GMT -5
This is a HUGE mistake. They need to leave the old cd in the past and bring out the new one RIGHT NOW! I honestly don't understand why Tim and Curb are doing everything they possibly can to kill his career. ???
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Post by Minimalism on Jul 16, 2008 9:11:30 GMT -5
Wow at all the negativity. This and "Between The River And Me" are my favorites from the album, I'm just glad he finally releases something worth listening to again.
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Post by libby on Jul 16, 2008 10:12:28 GMT -5
When the album was first released this song was the one I thought should be released after Last Dollar. IMO, the only poor single choice for this era was “Suspicions”. I don’t have a clue how radio will respond, but it is the next single so there’s no sense in hashing over what they should do. The only reason I’m somewhat disappointed is because I was getting hyped over the new album.
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Post by S4C on Jul 16, 2008 10:23:25 GMT -5
Wow at all the negativity. This and "Between The River And Me" are my favorites from the album, I'm just glad he finally releases something worth listening to again. Amen. I'm as distressed as everyone else that a new song isn't coming (especially one like "You Had To Be There"), but this is my second favorite on the album. Of course, I think he released all of the songs I didn't like aside from one or two, so I guess it wasn't that hard to pick one I liked...
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Post by kim8 on Jul 16, 2008 11:15:10 GMT -5
I need to go back and re-listen to it. I remember liking it but it was never one of my favorites on the CD. I loved I Need You, Shotgun Rider, and Nothin to Die For. I liked Kristofferson and Suspicions but I never thought Kristofferson was radio friendly--too twangy.
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Post by kevin59 on Jul 16, 2008 17:32:27 GMT -5
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Post by bamafan2102 on Jul 16, 2008 19:20:20 GMT -5
While Let It Go is not my favorite Tim McGraw album, I did like it (well everything but the single choices) but this is a really dumb move. This song is just average at best. I would hope that Tim would be fighting that this is not going to be released and to go ahead and start the next era. He has been doing YHTBT in his shows and sees the reaction and has to know that this is going to get him back to the top. Let It Go might not get top 20. I just don't get it.
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