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Post by justfloating on May 23, 2007 12:21:43 GMT -5
are u guys just saying digital sales more important than airplay cuz NA is flopping? RCA never care about hot100, it's all about mediabase airplay top 40 No, i was just supporting the idea that sales are always more important than airplay. if you arent selling you wont make it, thats fact. Billboard is more than sales so that irrelevant. Airplay is in that too. NA is not flopping, its struggling. Huge difference since its still not dead and its been out for a month. |
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Post by un4gitible on May 23, 2007 12:24:36 GMT -5
I'm not saying that one is more important than the other. They both have their merit.
FACT: Just because a song makes it to top 10 doesn't guarantee it will lead to huge sales. There have been quite a few songs, actually, that have been very popular on radio but people just don't want to buy the cd because of it. The more a song is out there, for the public to hear, the BETTER the chance they will want to buy the cd with the song on it (or just the song itself) but nothing is guaranteed.
On the other hand, if people are willing to shell out 99 cents for one song (before the cd is available), I think it increases the odds that they will consider buying the whole cd, for $9.99, once it's released.
So I think both are important, in their own way. Radio play IS important for the sales of cd's - why would someone buy a cd if they have never heard any songs from it? Radio is the biggest and best media to get songs heard - but it's not the only media. TV appearances, Videos on Video Music Channels, etc, etc, - heck even good reviews in print media to an extent - all get the song out there for the general public to hear and possibly buy the cd.
POP, IMO, IS the queen of all radio - the most bang for your spins audience wise. But artists CAN succeed without POP radio play - the sales success just might not be as big as it would be with POP play.
I mean country cd's seem to be selling good (and are some of the healthiest sellers right now) and their maximum audience is just over half what the maximum audience is for POP. It's more how you resonate with the audience you reach then it is the sheer number of people IMO.
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Post by neally on May 23, 2007 12:41:08 GMT -5
It's official, Kelly will be singing 'Never Again' on the American Idol finale tonight as posted on the official RCA website: rcarecords.com/ |
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 23, 2007 12:45:29 GMT -5
It's official, Kelly will be singing 'Never Again' on the American Idol finale tonight as posted on the official RCA website: rcarecords.com/Yep just heard that from the Express, so glad! People need to get real, artists don't abandon their songs after 1 month lol. |
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Post by missclarkson on May 23, 2007 13:30:49 GMT -5
It's official, Kelly will be singing 'Never Again' on the American Idol finale tonight as posted on the official RCA website: rcarecords.com/Yep just heard that from the Express, so glad! People need to get real, artists don't abandon their songs after 1 month lol. lol true ... especially kelly. i bet she doesnt wanna be proven wrong with NA ....since kelly pushed so hard for NA. |
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 23, 2007 13:41:19 GMT -5
Yep just heard that from the Express, so glad! People need to get real, artists don't abandon their songs after 1 month lol. lol true ... especially kelly. i bet she doesnt wanna be proven wrong with NA ....since kelly pushed so hard for NA. Yah heh, also I like on how RCA's homepage they use Katherine Mcphee's "Over It" (I like that song btw) but everywhere is Kelly this Kelly that, DL Kelly this, look for Kelly that lol. |
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Post by Patches on May 23, 2007 13:42:32 GMT -5
Aww I wanted her to perform something new, this performance probably wont do much for airplay but should see a smashing increase in sales.
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Post by muscleclub on May 23, 2007 13:49:16 GMT -5
She is so ... P!nk, lately! "I am 'big' enough I do my thing, give my fans what feels best and if success comes with it, GOOD! ... if not, next time, folks!"  I love her! |
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Post by missclarkson on May 23, 2007 14:14:47 GMT -5
oh well if kelly had to go to the try this pink route ... im ok with that. it's just ... it'll be very hard to win top 40 radio support back ... but oh well.....
i hope she rocks it out tonite bare feet, some raspy vocal .... please do long hair ..straight or wavy ... no short hair please, especially no to that short curly she's been doing lately ...eww...
please let the vocal be ON! ...i have a feeling she's gonna go rock it out wango tango style, but please nail it this time!!...
i hope she'll do a medley with a short 2nd single at the beginning ... who am i kidding huh it's not gonna happen lol
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Post by OUcultjam on May 23, 2007 14:38:51 GMT -5
I hope she has a cute outfit on this time. If not, that's all anyone will talk about the next day. lol! And I like the short curly hair - it's cute! I'm not worried about her voice at all for some reason. I think she's well-rested, as long as she wasn't out partying last night.  |
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Post by Mike on May 23, 2007 14:42:17 GMT -5
I'm hoping she can sound somewhere like she did on Ellen. The Ellen performance was good up until the last choruses. The begining was fantastic, though.
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Post by muscleclub on May 23, 2007 14:43:19 GMT -5
I don't think she will have to go though ALL that! I just LOVE her even more for feeling strong enough to give to the fans HER music and not what others think she should give. Radio might not respect that, but fans do. She had to flop at some point like any other big top 40 artist but talents like her always find the way to recover ... radio will always be there for that. :)
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Post by missclarkson on May 23, 2007 14:46:04 GMT -5
im hoping she will have the power and intensity vocal like on letterman tonight
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Post by SILENCE on May 23, 2007 15:08:38 GMT -5
I'm very excited to see Kelly perform this song tonight on Idol!
I don't think it's gonna have much of an impact on radio play but who knows, stranger things have happened.
I think if this single continues to sell well it'll help CD sales. and I think this song will have no trouble selling 500K and getting gold certification.
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Post by Focus on May 23, 2007 15:53:34 GMT -5
Bare feet and a rested voice. What more does she need.  |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 23, 2007 16:08:06 GMT -5
ok everyone considered "maneater" a flop because it was, now it probably sold very well as a single and was a massive hit in the uk and europe. maneater was a flop and on radio it preformed the same as NA so therefore NA is a flop!!!
You can't compare songs like that though.
Every single song that's released is released under it's own situation. Lead-off singles have a certain amount of pressure to perform well, especially when they're anticipated leadoff singles. It all depends on the situation of the artist and the song and the amount of promotion put into each. |
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 23, 2007 16:52:11 GMT -5
Back up 2 spots to #2 on Ratethemusic. Maroon 5 compared to last week ending (right before all their Idol stuff) up 2 spots to claim #1. Pink down 2 spots to #3, Linkin Park debuts on top 10 and JC from N'sync debuts within top 5. Daughtry drops 3 spots to #10 to round out the top 10:
Here are the Top Ten songs right now
according to RateTheMusic.com Raters
(Click here for Top Songs in All Formats)
1) Makes Me Wonder
Maroon 5
2) Never Again
Kelly Clarkson
3) U + Ur Hand
Pink
4) You Ruined Me
JC Chasez
5) Summer Love
Justin Timberlake
6) Wait For You
Elliott Yamin
7) Thnks Fr Th Mmrs
Fall Out Boy
8) What I've Done
Linkin Park
9) Before He Cheats
Carrie Underwood
10) Home
Daughtry
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 23, 2007 16:57:53 GMT -5
^so do digital sales. Airplay is just promotion. Digital sales is money in the bank. If the Federal exception to royalties is pulled, airplay will not only mean promotion to lead to money in the bank but it will also mean immediate money in the bank for artists and preformers as well - becoming a more important factor. |
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Post by 4 Minutes to be a Legend on May 23, 2007 17:04:44 GMT -5
Why do people put so much energy into ratethemusic or call out scores when they have proved nothing time and time again in the past? I really don't get it. It means NOTHING. It never has, and it never will.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 23, 2007 17:11:58 GMT -5
By putting so much energy do you mean posting results? Cause people do stuff like that all the time. Saying you heard a song on the radio and the DJ said it rocked means nothing too, but I may come and post that in a song's thread.
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Post by popmusicaddict on May 23, 2007 17:53:14 GMT -5
Why do people put so much energy into ratethemusic or call out scores when they have proved nothing time and time again in the past? I really don't get it. It means NOTHING. It never has, and it never will. Excuse you but the #1 songs on the pop charts this past year have always been high PRIOR to its #1 success on here and like LPL said its nothing energy or time consuming. They aren't 'meaningless', executives and promo people USE it. It can't even be manipulated or multiplied like voting multiple times or requesting, you are given about 35 to 40ish songs and you rate them ONCE per week. Nothing fan devoted at all lol. |
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Post by justfloating on May 23, 2007 19:14:01 GMT -5
AMAZING performance on Idol...yea i know i wouldnt watch Idol but had to see this performance. Its fantastic.
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Post by foxxden on May 23, 2007 19:15:41 GMT -5
Watching Idol right now. She looks great for a change. But what happened to her voice...it use to be better than this no?
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 23, 2007 19:19:19 GMT -5
She sounded and looked a lot better than usual!
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Post by justfloating on May 23, 2007 19:23:21 GMT -5
Her voice has always been like this, it doesnt sound like it on her albums because she is not straining as much because of course she can record different parts at different times.
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Post by desertflower on May 23, 2007 19:31:07 GMT -5
Kelly just isn't a good Live Performer...she sounds much better Recorded. She has a beautiful voice, but it just doesn't hold up well. When I saw her during the Addicted Tour, she would hold out the Mic and have the audience sing the high notes. I don't know if I'm going to go and see her this Tour...just didn't feel like it was worth it when she is only on stage for an hour or less.
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Post by ashley on May 23, 2007 19:51:43 GMT -5
I saw her on tour in the UK and thought her voice sounded amazing and her voice has sounded great for all of her NA performances I think. She's not a very exciting performer but she always delivers. Not seen AI yet.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 23, 2007 19:56:50 GMT -5
So her upcoming tour will be less than an hour long?
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Post by desertflower on May 23, 2007 19:59:20 GMT -5
I saw her on tour in the UK and thought her voice sounded amazing and her voice has sounded great for all of her NA performances I think. She's not a very exciting performer but she always delivers. Not seen AI yet. I saw her towards the end of the Tour and her voice was pretty rough. I have no idea. Her previous Tours her set have pretty short. Most Concerts I go to the Headliner usually does close to 2 hours. |
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Post by pyrates on May 23, 2007 20:05:46 GMT -5
I've seen Kelly live a few times, and 95% of the time, I love the live versions of her songs a lot more than the recorded versions.
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