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Post by badrobot on Dec 11, 2009 12:09:21 GMT -5
Madonna on Club Play of the decade: 1 Hung Up 2 Music 13 Jump 18 Die Another Day 19 Sorry
(odd that she could have 5 songs in the top 20 but then no more in the top 50)
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Post by jebsib on Dec 11, 2009 12:51:52 GMT -5
Ah ha! Thank you 2m! Damn, All these years I overlooked it!
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Post by wavetunes on Dec 11, 2009 14:20:02 GMT -5
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Post by wolfmother on Dec 11, 2009 14:23:46 GMT -5
Looks all in all Bey has a lot to be proud of this decade! Yeah, the number of hits she has in this decade is phenomenal. It would be hard to imagine her doing this well by the end of the next decade, b/c this one was near record-breaking. :o near record-breaking? Not even close, Mariah Carey with 14 #1's in the 90's and many other success, Madonna, Michael J and Whitney Houston in the 80's, all had more successfull decades than her, and let's not talk about The Beatles in the 60's.
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Post by dbt88 on Dec 11, 2009 15:15:59 GMT -5
Yeah, the number of hits she has in this decade is phenomenal. It would be hard to imagine her doing this well by the end of the next decade, b/c this one was near record-breaking. :o near record-breaking? Not even close, Mariah Carey with 14 #1's in the 90's and many other success, Madonna, Michael J and Whitney Houston in the 80's, all had more successfull decades than her, and let's not talk about The Beatles in the 60's. Exactly. They're pushing it a little bit too much. I don't see anywhere in which Beyonce really dominated overall, but even as a female, she has Alicia Keys with her on Hot 100, and Britney performed better on BB 200. Not downplaying her achievements, but record breaking is too much
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Post by kellybcfan98 on Dec 11, 2009 15:24:21 GMT -5
YEAH KELLY!!!!!!!!!
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Post by jamrock16 on Dec 11, 2009 15:31:00 GMT -5
near record-breaking? Not even close, Mariah Carey with 14 #1's in the 90's and many other success, Madonna, Michael J and Whitney Houston in the 80's, all had more successfull decades than her, and let's not talk about The Beatles in the 60's. Exactly. They're pushing it a little bit too much. I don't see anywhere in which Beyonce really dominated overall, but even as a female, she has Alicia Keys with her on Hot 100, and Britney performed better on BB 200. Not downplaying her achievements, but record breaking is too much Can't everyone just agree that she is the highest ranking female therefore she dominated the entire decade MORE than any other female? The fact that she placed lower on the BB 200 than Britney is irrelevant since it is a combination of the 2 charts where she clearly performed better than anyone else.
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Post by skizzo on Dec 11, 2009 15:34:37 GMT -5
is there a Hot 100 year end of the 2000s for single sales (not digital)?
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Post by galvanize on Dec 11, 2009 15:39:19 GMT -5
is there a Hot 100 year end of the 2000s for single sales (not digital)? Billboard Hot 100 Singles Sales 1 MARIA MARIA Santana Featuring The Product G&B Arista 2 MUSIC Madonna Maverick/Warner Bros. 3 HOT BOYZ Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott Featuring NAS, EVE & Q-Tip The Gold Mind/East West/EEG 4 INCOMPLETE Sisqo Dragon/Def Soul/IDJMG 5 THIS IS THE NIGHT/BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER Clay Aiken RCA/RMG 6 BREATHE Faith Hill Warner Bros. (Nashville)/WRN 7 GET IT ON TONITE Montell Jordan Def Soul/IDJMG 8 FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY BROKEN HEART Britney Spears Jive 9 FLYING WITHOUT WINGS/SUPERSTAR Ruben Studdard J/RMG 10 I LIKE IT Sammie Freeworld/Capitol 11 I WANNA LOVE YOU FOREVER Jessica Simpson Columbia 12 CAN'T FIGHT THE MOONLIGHT LeAnn Rimes Curb 13 THANK GOD I FOUND YOU Mariah Carey Featuring Joe & 98 Degrees Columbia 14 DOESN'T REALLY MATTER Janet Def Jam/Def Soul/IDJMG 15 A MOMENT LIKE THIS Kelly Clarkson RCA/RMG 16 GIRL ON TV LFO Arista 17 SWEAR IT AGAIN Westlife Arista 18 HE WASN'T MAN ENOUGH Toni Braxton LaFace/Arista 19 SMOOTH Santana Featuring Rob Thomas Arista 20 SAY MY NAME Destiny's Child Columbia 21 LOVERBOY Mariah Carey Featuring Cameo Virgin/Capitol 22 DANCE WITH ME Debelah Morgan The DAS Label/Atlantic 23 COME ON OVER BABY (ALL I WANT IS YOU) Christina Aguilera RCA 24 MIRROR MIRROR M2M Atlantic 25 WHAT A GIRL WANTS Christina Aguilera RCA 26 ANOTHER DUMB BLONDE Hoku Geffen/Interscope 27 THERE YOU GO Pink LaFace/Arista 28 STUTTER Joe Featuring Mystikal Jive 29 GET OVER YOURSELF Eden's Crush 143/London-Sire 30 HE LOVES U NOT Dream Bad Boy/Arista 31 AMAZED Lonestar BNA 32 HE CAN'T LOVE U Jagged Edge So So Def/Columbia 33 ALL THE SMALL THINGS Blink-182 MCA 34 LIQUID DREAMS O-Town J 35 THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER Whitney Houston Arista/RMG 36 I KNEW I LOVED YOU Savage Garden Columbia 37 BENT matchbox twenty Lava/Atlantic 38 MY LOVE IS YOUR LOVE Whitney Houston Arista 39 DO I MAKE YOU PROUD/TAKIN' IT TO THE STREETS Taylor Hicks Arista/RMG 40 MY BABY Lil' Romeo Soulja/Priority 41 ALL FOR YOU Janet Virgin/Capitol 42 INSIDE YOUR HEAVEN/INDEPENDENCE DAY Carrie Underwood Arista/RMG 43 AARON'S PARTY (COME GET IT) Aaron Carter Jive 44 GOODBYE EARL Dixie Chicks Monument 45 DON'T SAY YOU LOVE ME M2M Atlantic 46 PICTURE Kid Rock Featuring Sheryl Crow Universal South 47 COULD IT BE Jaheim Divine Mill/Warner Bros. 48 WHAT WOULD YOU DO? City High Booga Basement/Interscope 49 GIVE ME JUST ONE NIGHT (UNA NOCHE) 98 Degrees Universal/UMRG 50 24/7 Kevon Edmonds RCA After 2001, the physical market pretty much waivered off except for the American Idol singles.
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Post by Young Money on Dec 11, 2009 16:29:59 GMT -5
Interesting !^
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Post by David on Dec 11, 2009 17:11:29 GMT -5
Its funny how Pink was #7 on Hot 100 Airplay Artists, yet doesn't even have 1 song in the Hot 100 Airplay. LOL!
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Post by weaver on Dec 11, 2009 17:46:42 GMT -5
reeeally confused lol- IGF spent exactly the same amount of weeks at #1, sold WAY more than WBT and basically spent the same time in the top 40; so how is WBT way ahead? Lord, Billboard couldnt be more up Mariahs a*s lol. Oh please. We Belong Together was the big hit of the decade. There's no denying in that. Proof is that I Gotta Feeling landed at #5. Yes, I Gotta Feeling sold WAY more than We Belong Together, but remember the latter spent weeks with over 200 million AI while the former barely reached 120 million. It also was #1 on something like 7 different formats for multiple weeks.
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Post by neverduplicated on Dec 11, 2009 18:04:10 GMT -5
Oh please. We Belong Together was the big hit of the decade. There's no denying in that. Proof is that I Gotta Feeling landed at #5. Yes, I Gotta Feeling sold WAY more than We Belong Together, but remember the latter spent weeks with over 200 million AI while the former barely reached 120 million. It also was #1 on something like 7 different formats for multiple weeks. Also, digital sales in 2009 are much higher than those in 2005 for all singles. So comparing their raw sales isn't fair (though IGF wins either way). Likewise, airplay for all songs is much lower in 2009 than in 2005 (though WBT wins either way). However, WBT's airplay dominance was unparalleled.
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Post by K. on Dec 11, 2009 18:31:35 GMT -5
Why is Christina so low? And why is Beautiful not even in the top 100 songs? Weird.
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Post by David on Dec 11, 2009 18:36:57 GMT -5
Why is Christina so low? And why is Beautiful not even in the top 100 songs? Weird. Genie, her biggest hit, was in 1999. I think WAGW was as well. Then you have to factor in she's really only released 2 albums within this decade. B2B only spawned like 2 hits. Also, Christina seems to only get Pop airplay. She crosses over to HAC every now and again, but she's mainly a Pop artist. As for Beautiful.. not 100% sure why thats not even on the list. But I'm guessing it just barely missed out.
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Post by Rodze on Dec 11, 2009 19:13:27 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/#/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-the-fascinating-lady-gaga-1004053213.story'MUSIC' MAKES THE PEOPLE WONDER ... Hi Gary, Two questions: 1, How can the Black Eyed Peas' "I Gotta Feeling" rank higher "Boom Boom Pow" on the entire decade's Billboard Hot 100 chart than and yet lower on the 2009 year-end Hot 100 chart?2, How can the decade-end Hot 100 pan out such that a song like Madonna's "Music," which spent four weeks at No. 1, is omitted? Just curious. Sincerely, David Fritz Reseda, California Hi David, Keen of you to notice that, yes, the Peas' two 2009 smashes appear in reverse order on our year-end and decade-end tallies. The oddity is due to different methodologies being used in the compilation of each list. Billboard director of charts Silvio Pietroluongo explains some of the rationale that went into the creation of our extensive recap of 2009 and the entire past decade, which premiered on billboard.com today. The second and third Q&As below apply specifically to your question about the Black Eyed Peas: "Q: How were the decade-end charts compiled? A: Most of our decade-end music charts represent aggregated sales or radio airplay (audience impressions or total plays) for each artist and title from the weekly charts on which they appeared from the start of the 2000 chart year (Dec. 4, 1999) though the end of the 2009 chart year (Nov. 28, 2009). In other words, if a weekly chart is based on unit sales, audience impressions, or total radio plays, those numbers are added up for each week a title or an artist appeared on that chart during the decade. The Billboard 200 rankings, for example, are based on total sales for each title or artist, while they were on the chart. Sales totals are based on weekly data compiled by Nielsen SoundScan, with radio airplay measured by Nielsen BDS. Q: Does that methodology apply to all the decade-end charts?
A: No. Some charts that changed methodology during the decade (such as Country Songs, which segued from weekly plays to weekly audience impressions) employ an inverse point system, with weeks at No. 1 earning the greatest value and weeks at the chart's lower end earning the least.
The Hot 100, which is ranked on a weekly basis incorporating airplay, sales and streaming data, also employs this inverse point system for its decade-end lists, since the chart's formula was altered various times during the 2000s.
Q: So, the Hot 100 formula is different for the decade-end charts than it is for the 2009 rankings?
A: That is correct. Since the Hot 100 formula was stable for 2009, we simply aggregated weekly points for each title and artist. This explains why some songs on the decade-end Hot 100 tally might be ranked in a different order than they appear on their corresponding year-end rankings. Q: How were the top artists of the decade categories compiled (for overall, country, R&B and Latin genres)? A: The overall top artists of the decade category is based on a formula blending aggregated sales totals for each artist's title in the weeks it appeared on the Billboard 200 chart with the inverse points system used for the Hot 100 recaps for all of the artist's titles that appeared on that list. The top artists categories for country, R&B and Latin were determined by employing the inverse point system based on an artist's weekly ranking on each format's respective albums and songs charts." As for your question about Madonna's "Music" not making the decade-end cut, consider that 129 songs rose to No. 1 in the 2000s, so there was simply no way that every Hot 100 topper this decade was going to make the top 100 recap. When a pop culture monster like "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)," which, like "Music," reigned for four weeks, ranks at No. 99 for the decade, it's clear that competition was, pardon the Beyonce pun, fierce. And, in some ways, that's a good thing. With such major hits not making our list, it's a sign that the 2000s gave us a deep reservoir of pop music that has made a lasting impression on fans and consumers. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE SALES TOTAL IS Dear Gary, How well is Mariah Carey's beautiful album "Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel" doing sales-wise in the U.S.? Thank you, Zwan Chandon Didier Kaduna, Nigeria Hi Zwan, Carey's 12th studio release has sold 344,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan. It peaked at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 upon its debut in October and became her fifth No. 1 on R&B/Hip-Hop Albums. On the decade-end Hot 100, Carey boasts the No. 1 title, 2005's "We Belong Together." Carey has also just announced that her eight-week, 19-city "Angels Advocate" tour will begin New Year's Eve and run through Feb. 27 in Las Vegas. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT BARBARA'S SOURCE IS Hi Gary, On Wednesday (Dec. 9), I watched the Barbara Walters special, "The 10 Most Fascinating People of 2009," and am once again confused by a statistic quoted during Lady Gaga's introduction. Walters stated that Lady Gaga is the "first artist ever to have four No. 1 hits off a debut album," which I have heard several times in the past few months. As a huge fan of Mariah Carey, I know that Lady Gaga wasn't the first artist to accomplish this feat, as Mariah saw her first four singles go to No. 1 in 1990 and 1991. Maybe I'm missing something, but can you please provide any insight and/or clarification? I love Lady Gaga. But, I love Mariah more! Thanks, Travis Parker Lee Arlington, Virginia Hi Travis, Both divas dominated with four career-opening No. 1 songs - but on different charts. Mariah Carey topped the Hot 100 with "Vision of Love," "Love Takes Time," "Someday" and "I Don't Wanna Cry" in 1990-91. Lady Gaga has led the mainstream top 40-based Pop Songs radio airplay chart with "Just Dance," "Poker Face," "LoveGame" and "Paparazzi," a record run from the start of an artist's career on the 17-year-old tally. She could add a fifth, as "Bad Romance" darts 13-11. And at No. 36, she bows this week with her sixth entry on Pop Songs, "Telephone," featuring Beyonce. Gaga is Walters' second-most "fascinating" person of the year, trailing only Michelle Obama. One other musician made the list - Adam Lambert - while Michael Jackson's three children, Paris Michael Katherine, Prince Michael Jr., and Prince Michael II ("Blanket"), share the No. 10 ranking. On Billboard's 2009 year-end chart festivities, Lady Gaga is a standout. She earns the coveted honors of the year's top new artist, top Hot 100 artist, top female Hot 100 artist, top Hot Digital Songs artist, top Pop Songs artist, top Hot Dance Airplay artist, top Dance/Electronic Albums artist and has the top Dance/Electronic Album ("The Fame"). BTW. All these gazillion threads about the year-end and decade charts are a terrible MESS to go through.
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Post by felipe on Dec 11, 2009 20:59:15 GMT -5
Either BBP was bigger than I Gotta Feeling or it was not. If year-end chart has one thing and decade chart has another, then something in the fromula is obviously wrong.
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Post by jebsib on Dec 11, 2009 23:19:45 GMT -5
On the Hot 100 of the 2000s list:
26% of the songs did not make #1
Roughly 24% are not r&b based songs (up to interpretation, but you get the idea)
also, concluding that the cut-off was during I Gotta Feeling's reign:
# 1 Songs that didn’t make the list:
• What a Girl Wants • Thank God I Found You • Amazed • Say My Name • Be With You • It’s Gonna Be Me • Incomplete • Doesn’t Really Matter • Music • Come On Over Baby • Ms. Jackson • Stutter • Butterfly • Angel • Lady Marmalade • Bootylicious • A Moment Like This • Bump Bump Bump • All I Have • 21 Questions • This Is The Night • Shake Ya Tailfeather • Slow Jamz • I Believe • Confesions part 2 • Slow Motion • Inside Your Heaven • Don’t Forget About Us • Laffy Taffy • Grillz • So Sick • SOS • Ridin’ • Hips Don’t Lie • Do I Make You Proud • London Bridge • Money Maker • My Love • I Wanna Love you • Say It Right • What Goes Around Comes Around • This Is Why I’m Hot • Glamorous • Don’t Matter • Give It To Me • Makes Me Wonder • Beautiful Girls • Touch My Body • Take A Bow • Womanizer • My Life Would Suck Without You • Crack a Bottle
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Post by seanblain on Dec 12, 2009 1:40:49 GMT -5
reeeally confused lol- IGF spent exactly the same amount of weeks at #1, sold WAY more than WBT and basically spent the same time in the top 40; so how is WBT way ahead? Lord, Billboard couldnt be more up Mariahs a*s lol. We Belong Together is also the #1 Hot 100 Airplay song of the decade all time. Mariah broke the one-week audience total in BDS history many times over and spent a decade-best 16 weeks on top of the Billboard Hot 100 Airplay chart.
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Post by PDC1987 on Dec 12, 2009 9:07:38 GMT -5
reeeally confused lol- IGF spent exactly the same amount of weeks at #1, sold WAY more than WBT and basically spent the same time in the top 40; so how is WBT way ahead? Lord, Billboard couldnt be more up Mariahs a*s lol. We Belong Together is also the #1 Hot 100 Airplay song of the decade all time. Mariah broke the one-week audience total in BDS history many times over and spent a decade-best 16 weeks on top of the Billboard Hot 100 Airplay chart. Yet it came nowhere near the sales of many other (smaller) radio hits of the time.
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Post by neverduplicated on Dec 12, 2009 9:15:09 GMT -5
We Belong Together is also the #1 Hot 100 Airplay song of the decade all time. Mariah broke the one-week audience total in BDS history many times over and spent a decade-best 16 weeks on top of the Billboard Hot 100 Airplay chart. Yet it came nowhere near the sales of many other (smaller) radio hits of the time. Yet it fueled the sales of the best-selling album of 2005. People don't buy the single from Itunes if they're going to buy the whole album instead. BTW, your avatar is creeeepy.
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Post by Myth X on Dec 12, 2009 22:22:30 GMT -5
I can't believe "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams" is not here in the list Hot 100 of 2000s.
It ranked higher than "Candy Shop" on the Year-end chart of 2005. Boulevard was #7 and Candy Shop was #8.
Now in this list "Candy Shop" is #52 and "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams" isn't here.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 12, 2009 23:35:07 GMT -5
The decade-end chart probably is chart-performance-based, hence the discrepancy. "Candy Shop" was #1 for multiple weeks, no? "Boulevard" "only" peaked at #2.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 23:45:03 GMT -5
It is chart peformance based. An inverse point system was employed due to various definition changes throughout the decade. Here time at #1 means more. Whereas the 2009 list was based on points rather than chart runs
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Post by badrobot on Dec 13, 2009 2:11:37 GMT -5
I am surprised at the omission of "Music" as well. It not only spent 4 weeks at #1, but an additional 6 weeks at #2.
I think they could have done a better method for compiling the decade chart. Chart methods may have changed, but at its core every week has been about adding up total points. If you normalize the chart so that if, say, during 02-04 it only took 125 pts on average to hit #1, but during 07-09 it took 250 pts on average (or something like that), you could just double the points value for that time. Similar to the idea of "adjusted grosses" for movies.
Ranking based on position alone completely ignores weeks where a certain song, or songs, may have been WAY ahead of the competition, while on other weeks the entire top ten might have been extremely close.
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Post by falkos on Dec 13, 2009 3:15:33 GMT -5
Congrats to MIMI BEST POP SONG EVER BY FAAAAAAR and i hope no one try to cover it, i'll kill him/her
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Post by CTE on Dec 13, 2009 4:25:10 GMT -5
With all the hype Beyonce gets you'd think she was #1 in every category.
I'm shocked that her songs aren't higher. Soulja boy higher than SL? Shocking...
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Post by felipe on Dec 14, 2009 7:31:53 GMT -5
I am surprised at the omission of "Music" as well. It not only spent 4 weeks at #1, but an additional 6 weeks at #2. I think they could have done a better method for compiling the decade chart. Chart methods may have changed, but at its core every week has been about adding up total points. If you normalize the chart so that if, say, during 02-04 it only took 125 pts on average to hit #1, but during 07-09 it took 250 pts on average (or something like that), you could just double the points value for that time. Similar to the idea of "adjusted grosses" for movies. Ranking based on position alone completely ignores weeks where a certain song, or songs, may have been WAY ahead of the competition, while on other weeks the entire top ten might have been extremely close. I think they could've come up with a better method too. If they're trying to rank the biggest hits of the decade it should be more objetive and not something that looks kind of random and has hugh disccrepancies if comparade to, say, 2009's year-end chart.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2009 9:25:27 GMT -5
It wasn't random
Because the definition of being on the Hot 100 changed several times in 10 years , they established an point sytem. More weight went to longer stays at #1 and total chart runs
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Post by r.enato on Dec 14, 2009 9:33:13 GMT -5
Yeah it had to be that way.
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