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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 10:19:48 GMT -5
I'm so happy this managed a Top 10 peak. Unfortunately I don't see Top 5 in the cards. I think it's best for Jana Kramer I Got The Boy to stop now and begin falling. Let's say they continue on for one more week. Best case scenario is that Blake Shelton and Chris Young fall below and Jana passes Sam Hunt (temporarily) and brings her song up to #7. Worst Case Scenario is only Chris Young falls below and Luke Bryan passes Jana so she'd stay at #10. It's not worth it anymore.
Now I still stand by my opinions that Jana should release Circles or Dance In The Rain because if you order her 5 songs from biggest hit to smallest hit look what's at the top. "Why Ya Wanna" and "I Got The Boy" and at the bottom "I Hope It Rains". Her mid to slow songs are her hits and I think that's what works so why change it up to an uptempo besides when the album was released Circles was the top song on iTunes besides I Got The Boy.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 22, 2015 14:14:47 GMT -5
I'm so happy this managed a Top 10 peak. Unfortunately I don't see Top 5 in the cards. I think it's best for Jana Kramer I Got The Boy to stop now and begin falling. Let's say they continue on for one more week. Best case scenario is that Blake Shelton and Chris Young fall below and Jana passes Sam Hunt (temporarily) and brings her song up to #7. Worst Case Scenario is only Chris Young falls below and Luke Bryan passes Jana so she'd stay at #10. It's not worth it anymore. Now I still stand by my opinions that Jana should release Circles or Dance In The Rain because if you order her 5 songs from biggest hit to smallest hit look what's at the top. "Why Ya Wanna" and "I Got The Boy" and at the bottom "I Hope It Rains". Her mid to slow songs are her hits and I think that's what works so why change it up to an uptempo besides when the album was released Circles was the top song on iTunes besides I Got The Boy. You can't have hits with only ballads and back-to-back ones are usually extremely rare, especially for someone with Jana's limited star-power. An uptempo that is more radio-friendly than "I Got the Boy" is definitely the way to go next as Jana faces a huge uphill battle to get anything else to stick now that she's gotten 1 hit off this album. Most women are allowed exactly one Top 20 hit and then radio largely gives them the cold shoulder. Even though "I Hope It Rains" peaked the lowest out of all her singles, I still believe it would've done better had "Whiskey" not effed up her momentum. That was a bad second single choice imo and "Dance in the Rain" would be to the same effect here. And as for this stopping now, I know fatigue is apparently high for this song (I don't look at the callout scores like others do), but this is still selling very well and it seems to be one of the most popular songs out there for awhile. One of the stations here said that it was the #1 song for requests for the past 5 days straight when I heard it on radio the other day. Maybe some people are getting tired of it because it's been out so long but a lot of people are still loving it and if "Love You Like That" can hang on like it did to go all the way to the top, I don't see why they can't at least try to get Jana close. Really the two chart-runs are fairly similar: long and slow but eventually caught on because sales were too good to just ignore.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 14:25:00 GMT -5
^ If there is a difference I don't think Canaan had nearly the fatigue rate that Jana had. Also I don't think Whiskey was a bad choice at all for a second single it sold well and if I recall correctly it was more or less just lost in the shuffle because I think that didn't because it got buried by new releases.
It's just the fatigue is high and I just don't know know if a few more chart positions will be ultimately worth it.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 22, 2015 17:16:01 GMT -5
^ If there is a difference I don't think Canaan had nearly the fatigue rate that Jana had. Also I don't think Whiskey was a bad choice at all for a second single it sold well and if I recall correctly it was more or less just lost in the shuffle because I think that didn't because it got buried by new releases. It peaked in the 20s so I don't think "lost in the shuffle" is an appropriate way to describe it's chart run ("I Hope It Rains" is probably a more accurate example of getting "lost in the shuffle"). It performed pretty typically for a follow-up to a female hit when you compare it to recent-ish second singles from artists like Sheryl Crow, Kacey Musgraves, Cassadee Pope, etc. but I definitely think going with another slower song after "Why Ya Wanna" was a mistake, and for similar reasons, I think "Dance in the Rain" is one of the worst choices they could make for the next single. She's not going to be able to keep scoring hits if all she releases is ballads in hopes that 1 in every 3 or 4 released turns into a success.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Dec 22, 2015 20:09:08 GMT -5
I think ultimately they should pick Don't Touch My Radio. It's fun and sassy and is a pretty short song. I think it could catch fire after a while on radio.
I think they may try to get a couple placements higher for I Got The Boy. This next week will tell me hopefully what they are planning for this songs future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 20:20:22 GMT -5
I guess Don't Touch My Radio could work as it's radio friendly pop-rock song that lyrics are basically bro-country. Like this is a time where I want to be wrong but I just have a nagging sense that the uptempo will prove fatal. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Dec 22, 2015 21:38:23 GMT -5
"Don't Touch My Radio" is very radio-friendly and would be a big hit for any male singer, so I think it's one of Jana's best bets at hopefully getting another hit off this album. Another ballad on the heels of this song is just not going to be a hit so an uptempo is definitely the way to go if she has any chance of bucking the one-and-done trends for most females.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2015 12:00:16 GMT -5
I'm curious to see how much longer Jana has on the charts with this Luke & Karen have now made the pass and it appears Sam Hunt will probably stay ahead of Jana and to add insult to injury Tim McGraw is still holding on. If Jana has two advantages is that the competition below (Granger, Kelsea ,Brad, Keith and Randy) there all a long way behind and her sales continue to remain strong as well. But at now 44 weeks I feel like the end for Jana Kramer has to be coming soon for I Got The Boy. I could see Jana holding on but right now only Cam and Blake are falling so Jana next week realistically could get #8 at the highest maybe #7 if Tim McGraw finally officially throws in the towel but I don't see Jana holding on much longer she's at 44 weeks that's a lot to ask for this song to hold on that long.
I bring this up because it appeared last week for those Christmas losses Jana Kramer were pretty high for losses as she lost about as much as Chris Young I'm Coming Over did so I do think radio is ready to move on from I Got The Boy.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 4, 2016 20:44:16 GMT -5
Warner Music Nashville is going to have "I Got The Boy's" final push week start this upcoming Sunday (1/10). They will most likely get a top 5 finish since there's no way they can get a #1 out of this single. Country radio is very much through with this song though and expect the bottom to fall out, "Run Away With You"/"Fly"-style once they let go of promotion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 20:47:21 GMT -5
I don't see where Jana can get the Top 5 I just can't. Maybe MB but it all depends if Jason Aldean falls. I'm also gonna say Jana won't get a Top 5 on BB,
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 4, 2016 20:51:06 GMT -5
I don't see where Jana can get the Top 5 I just can't. Maybe MB but it all depends if Jason Aldean falls. I'm also gonna say Jana won't get a Top 5 on BB, Sure I can. She's got until the 17th since the push by Warner comes this upcoming Sunday (the 10th). Tim, Blake and Jason will all fall below/go recurrent by that date. They'll be happy with the MB chart.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 20:54:17 GMT -5
I don't see where Jana can get the Top 5 I just can't. Maybe MB but it all depends if Jason Aldean falls. I'm also gonna say Jana won't get a Top 5 on BB, With 2 more weeks of gains (the push will be from the 10th-17th), Jana will have a pretty good chance at a top 5 peak (most likely right at #5). Blake and Tim will be gone next week, and Jason Aldean is most likely done as well. Jana is already at #8 on Mediabase, so that's a +3 right there. On Billboard she'd need to re-pass Luke Bryan...on paper that might sound daunting, but really it shouldn't be, as Jana only needs to edge ahead of him for a few days (or even just 1 day, at the end of the chart week), and she's only about 500k behind Luke on tonight's BB chart. So I definitely think it's doable, although I wouldn't be surprised to see this "only" peak at #6 on Billboard (but #5 on Mediabase).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 21:03:34 GMT -5
Yeesh...I just saw that they're actually hoping for a #1 with this. The ad says "Let's deliver a bouncing baby #1 on January 18".
If they can somehow get it done (and I have my doubts that this will get past #5), it would probably be the worst and most manipulative push we've seen yet. Jana is still at least 14-15 million away from the #1 spot on Billboard...I just don't see any way they can gain that much in 2 weeks' time. This song already has an astronomically high burn-rate, and it appeared to be running on fumes before Christmas (it was showing daily decreases before most other songs were).
I just don't even know what to think anymore. I can't believe that any label would even think about forcing a song from 10 to 1 in a 2-week time span. I mean, how is that an accomplishment? That's not a song going #1 on its own merits...it's a label paying radio for their preferred outcome on the charts, and I have no idea why any label would be proud of that.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 4, 2016 21:09:21 GMT -5
Yeesh...I just saw that they're actually hoping for a #1 with this. The ad says "Let's deliver a bouncing baby #1 on January 18". If they can somehow get it done (and I have my doubts that this will get past #5), it would probably be the worst and most manipulative push we've seen yet. Jana is still at least 14-15 million away from the #1 spot on Billboard...I just don't see any way they can gain that much in 2 weeks' time. This song already has an astronomically high burn-rate, and it appeared to be running on fumes before Christmas (it was showing daily decreases before most other songs were). I just don't even know what to think anymore. I can't believe that any label would even think about forcing a song from 10 to 1 in a 2-week time span. I mean, how is that an accomplishment? That's not a song going #1 on its own merits...it's a label paying radio for their preferred outcome on the charts, and I have no idea why any label would be proud of that. I literally don't give that part of the ad any credence. There's just no way after 45 weeks, with a song that is testing as poorly as "I Got The Boy", can be pushed from #8/#9 to #1/#2 in less than two weeks time...that's downright asinine. They'll get a top 5 and be happy with it. We'll see what the updates hold for Jana's song come next week but I'm sure that Reviver, EMI and MCA have other plans anyway since they have songs that are in line for #1 two weeks from now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 21:09:54 GMT -5
It'll take a double Canaan Smith "Love You Like That" push to even have a chance.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Jan 4, 2016 21:10:18 GMT -5
Yeesh...I just saw that they're actually hoping for a #1 with this. The ad says "Let's deliver a bouncing baby #1 on January 18". If they can somehow get it done (and I have my doubts that this will get past #5), it would probably be the worst and most manipulative push we've seen yet. Jana is still at least 14-15 million away from the #1 spot on Billboard...I just don't see any way they can gain that much in 2 weeks' time. This song already has an astronomically high burn-rate, and it appeared to be running on fumes before Christmas (it was showing daily decreases before most other songs were). I just don't even know what to think anymore. I can't believe that any label would even think about forcing a song from 10 to 1 in a 2-week time span. I mean, how is that an accomplishment? That's not a song going #1 on its own merits...it's a label paying radio for their preferred outcome on the charts, and I have no idea why any label would be proud of that. I agree, it's foolish to think of this going number 1. I think they were putting the 'bouncing baby number 1' in there cause that could be when her due date is?.. it could be just a fun gesture to radio to get it playing alot.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jan 4, 2016 21:14:44 GMT -5
Yeesh...I just saw that they're actually hoping for a #1 with this. The ad says "Let's deliver a bouncing baby #1 on January 18". If they can somehow get it done (and I have my doubts that this will get past #5), it would probably be the worst and most manipulative push we've seen yet. Jana is still at least 14-15 million away from the #1 spot on Billboard...I just don't see any way they can gain that much in 2 weeks' time. This song already has an astronomically high burn-rate, and it appeared to be running on fumes before Christmas (it was showing daily decreases before most other songs were). I just don't even know what to think anymore. I can't believe that any label would even think about forcing a song from 10 to 1 in a 2-week time span. I mean, how is that an accomplishment? That's not a song going #1 on its own merits...it's a label paying radio for their preferred outcome on the charts, and I have no idea why any label would be proud of that. I agree, it's foolish to think of this going number 1. I think they were putting the 'bouncing baby number 1' in there cause that could be when her due date is?.. it could be just a fun gesture to radio to get it playing alot. Um why is it foolish? This song is much better than all of that R&B Country stuff and it has a lot of lyrical depth. Don't be so negative.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jan 4, 2016 21:21:02 GMT -5
^ Jamie was being realistic here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 21:21:27 GMT -5
Why is it foolish. Because no song naturally rises from #8-#9 to the #1 that's it's radio manipulation at it's absolute worst. I can only hope the other labels fight back,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 21:21:40 GMT -5
Um why is it foolish? This song is much better than all of that R&B Country stuff and it has a lot of lyrical depth. Don't be so negative. You don't seem to grasp how charts work. Songs aren't supposed to be able to increase by 15 million in audience in a 2-week time span. If/when that happens, that's called "payola". Paying for a massive #1 push to force a song that wouldn't have otherwise gone to #1 = foolish. Also, saying one song is better than another (or a different style of song) is an opinion, not a fact. Radio will play what they want to play, and whatever songs they want to play the most are the ones that are "deserving" of #1. It's pretty clear to me that radio and listeners are showing some major resistance to this one, but it looks like Jana's label is going to try to force it up the chart for another 2 weeks anyway (likely by giving out free concert tickets, meet and greets, promising interviews to radio staffers, etc...that's what payola looks like in this day and age).
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jan 4, 2016 21:30:03 GMT -5
Um why is it foolish? This song is much better than all of that R&B Country stuff and it has a lot of lyrical depth. Don't be so negative. You don't seem to grasp how charts work. Songs aren't supposed to be able to increase by 15 million in audience in a 2-week time span. If/when that happens, that's called "payola". Paying for a massive #1 push to force a song that wouldn't have otherwise gone to #1 = foolish. Also, saying one song is better than another (or a different style of song) is an opinion, not a fact. Radio will play what they want to play, and whatever songs they want to play the most are the ones that are "deserving" of #1. It's pretty clear to me that radio and listeners are showing some major resistance to this one, but it looks like Jana's label is going to try to force it up the chart for another 2 weeks anyway (likely by giving out free concert tickets, meet and greets, promising interviews to radio staffers, etc...that's what payola looks like in this day and age). I'm sure they've been playing this song quite a bit. Yes, I know and I never said that it was a fact. Of course it's my opinion. And yes I know that radio has been manipulating songs, they've been doing that for many years.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Jan 4, 2016 21:38:32 GMT -5
Believe me, I'm not negative. I'm probably one of the biggest jana supporters on the Board, if not the biggest. Ive followed this song closely and I Can say with a matter afact this wont hit the top. Its not being negative its me being realistic. I would love for this to hit the number one spot, but as said above it would be a really messed up chart cheat.
Happy this might get to top 5 though!!
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jan 4, 2016 21:42:05 GMT -5
Believe me, I'm not negative. I'm probably one of the biggest jana supporters on the Board, if not the biggest. Ive followed this song closely and I Can say with a matter afact this wont hit the top. Its not being negative its me being realistic. I would love for this to hit the number one spot, but as said above it would be a really messed up chart cheat. Happy this might get to top 5 though!! I do think it could hit the top 5. What do you think they'll go with after this song peaks?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 4, 2016 23:26:08 GMT -5
I'll be pretty content with a Top 5 peak for this. With all the same factors taken into consideration, I'm pretty sure this would've taken off a lot faster if this song were performed by a male and been a surefire #1 hit by now, but I digress. A Top 5 peak is certainly a wonderful finish for something as traditional-leaning and slow as this by a female artist not named Carrie or Miranda in 2015/2016, so I'm happy about it. Even just hitting the Top 10 was wonderful to see for this. I just hope we aren't waiting another few years for Jana Kramer to get another big hit because her album is full of great radio potential and I grow tired of the trend of country radio going "nope, you've already fulfilled our 1-hit-per-era quota for female artists" to everyone.
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Post by Marv on Jan 5, 2016 10:37:28 GMT -5
Her label should be EXTREMELY content with a top 5/6 peak at the two trades; granted the chart run for this mesmerizing gem was downright infuriating, but given the current state of the format, lonnngggg chart runs for standout singles by format newcomers is pretty routine.
Just go back 5 years ago this month when 'Are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not' was trudging through a 36-week long trek to #1 and eventually wound up #1 for the year over Jason & Kelly, well before the bro-country craze blew up and smothered the format.
A new single within the next 3-4 weeks from an extraordinary singer would be wonderful; the angst/yearning in her voice is very genuine IMHO, and this was certainly among last year's VERY best singles without a doubt.
Where did this wind up on Billboard's year-end charts anyway?
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Jan 5, 2016 11:13:12 GMT -5
I'm glad this finally got to hit the Top 10, but like everyone else, I'd be more than content with a Top 5 peak. I'm surprised the label is pushing for a #1.
This song is really old and its burn rate is high. The only thing that's probably keeping it going is the sales. Its sales is much better than most Country songs on the chart.
Don't Touch My Radio for single #2!
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Post by g8erboi on Jan 5, 2016 11:29:43 GMT -5
Hi y'all. Newcomer here, longtime lurker. Anyway, is the label actually pushing for #1 with song? If so, why couldn't they delay their push week until next month or something? I mean, I know this song has been charting for too long, but putting another month on its chart run probably wouldn't make a huge difference at this point, especially since the sales are still strong.
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Post by prcbgcc1 on Jan 5, 2016 11:39:54 GMT -5
I remember being excited when this song hit the top 20. For the longest time it seemed like it wouldn't even get that far, so a top five peak would be absolutely fantastic for this song. I would have loved for it to have climbed much faster and a have a shot at #1, but I think from the beginning we all knew it would be a slow chart climb. I haven't had a chance to listen to the rest of the cd, but I look forward to checking it out soon and have my fingers crossed for another big hit after this one peaks.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 5, 2016 14:23:24 GMT -5
Hi y'all. Newcomer here, longtime lurker. Anyway, is the label actually pushing for #1 with song? If so, why couldn't they delay their push week until next month or something? I mean, I know this song has been charting for too long, but putting another month on its chart run probably wouldn't make a huge difference at this point, especially since the sales are still strong. I'm sure radio stations have made it known to Warner Music Nashville that they would like to be rid of this song from regular rotation, which is certainly understandable considering its 46 weeks old. Lasting another month would not be wise to try if you're Jana's promotion team. The incentive for radio with these final pushed is that they can officially be done with spinning it once the massive push is over...that's why they give in to these pushes...that and the free concert tickets and interviews that the labels give them in exchange for overnight spins and increased audience. Yes, the sales have been helping give Jana's label something to tout but radio stations pay closer attention to what the people listening to their station want and a heavy burn rate like this song is just not what they want to play on a heavy basis. Warner Music Nashville had to do this push now or let go of it. The problem I have with country radio/labels nowadays is that "everyone" needs to do some insane final push once their song is at the end of the road. 10-20 years ago, song's at this point of the chart never got these massive pushes, just the occasional single vying for the #1 position. Jana's song should not be charting right now but +40 week runs is what's the norm in 2016. I really don't think this song peaking at #5 (God forbid #1, which I don't think will happen) will make any significant difference from peaking #8...it's just bragging rights in the end. Doing some ridiculous, over the top push to inflate this song's peak isn't an accomplishment to me.
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Post by zjames on Jan 5, 2016 21:55:34 GMT -5
My local station DJ called this one "Jana's new song."
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