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Post by Kyle on May 27, 2015 6:24:26 GMT -5
I just hope they decide to release more than one single from the album before it comes out unlike what happened with North. I think Overjoyed came out a couple days before the album was out, but the wait from June to September was a long wait with only one song.
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Post by crazyfun1 on May 27, 2015 15:00:02 GMT -5
I've been an MB20 fan since Robs days in Tabithas Secret and I have to say this is the worst song I've ever heard from him. It sounds nothing like him and he's trying way too hard. The song is awful
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Post by No Brake$ on May 27, 2015 15:40:50 GMT -5
I have no idea how, but this song reminds me of The Hives, "Hate To Say I Told You So". I mean you can almost sing the lyrics right along to the music.
On that note. I find myself thinking of this as a decent pop song, but do not like it as a RT song if that makes sense? The way I look at it, I have heard that there is a "If You're Gone 2" on this album, and if this opens up for that to be released this Fall, which they have gone with mid-ballads for him and M20 in the Fall with the exception of disease in the past two decades, I'm all for it. I think this will end up being a hit with many people thinking it's someone that isn't Rob, or really not knowing him at all...exactly what they were aiming for. I hated Lonely No More, but did like that album quite a bit, and I'm sure this will do the same.
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Post by Rumors on May 27, 2015 15:54:03 GMT -5
Well, for people who love Rob and ballad's, he's giving you one. I just read this in an article I posted in the album thread. :)
Set for release in late summer, The Great Unknown is just about finished. "I have this one ballad that we just cut," Thomas says. Producer "Matt Serletic sent me the strings for it today. I've got to cut the vocals for that. It's really just me with the piano and strings. That would officially be the last one."
Edit - I guess this may be the same song No Brake is talking about above.
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Post by Rumors on May 27, 2015 15:57:52 GMT -5
I just hope they decide to release more than one single from the album before it comes out unlike what happened with North. I think Overjoyed came out a couple days before the album was out, but the wait from June to September was a long wait with only one song. Overjoyed was a terrible choice for second single. It killed any momentum they may have garnered from She's So Mean. I honestly hope they don't go this route for Rob even if Trust You flops.
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Post by Rumors on May 27, 2015 16:06:18 GMT -5
I've been an MB20 fan since Robs days in Tabithas Secret and I have to say this is the worst song I've ever heard from him. It sounds nothing like him and he's trying way too hard. The song is awful I obviously have liked most of Rob's stuff - reason why I'm still a fan but he has had a few clunkers for me. All That I Am and Real World '09 don't do much for me. Put Your Hands Up is pretty generic as well from North. I guess I'm simply in the minority on Trust You. I really, really like it and I hope there's more of this sound on the album. :)
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Post by crazyfun1 on May 28, 2015 8:37:39 GMT -5
I've been an MB20 fan since Robs days in Tabithas Secret and I have to say this is the worst song I've ever heard from him. It sounds nothing like him and he's trying way too hard. The song is awful I obviously have liked most of Rob's stuff - reason why I'm still a fan but he has had a few clunkers for me. All That I Am and Real World '09 don't do much for me. Put Your Hands Up is pretty generic as well from North. I guess I'm simply in the minority on Trust You. I really, really like it and I hope there's more of this sound on the album. :) Knowing how amazing both Rob and Ryan are at songwriting and hit songs, this one is a total miss. As an MB20 since the day they arrived I am shocked at the quality and seems mediocricy of this song. I could only listen to part of it before turning it off.
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Post by No Brake$ on May 28, 2015 9:47:14 GMT -5
The more I listen to this, the more I can't stand it. It's terrible lyrics, and the "ooh ooh ooooooh, oooh ooooh oooooh" part is so bad after the chorus. I feel like Tedder gave one of the 100 songs he threw away to work with Rob, and then the rest was just so lazy....I don't know even know. Rob is a great songwriter, I can't imagine he wanted this to be released first. I hope this doesn't get critically panned, this is BAD.
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Post by Kyle on May 28, 2015 11:36:53 GMT -5
I enjoy the song for what it is, it's not the best he's made, but I am definitely expecting the rest of the album to be better than this. From the new songs he preformed at his acoustic shows, the rest of the album has some promising songs
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Post by crazyfun1 on May 28, 2015 14:15:55 GMT -5
The more I listen to this, the more I can't stand it. It's terrible lyrics, and the "ooh ooh ooooooh, oooh ooooh oooooh" part is so bad after the chorus. I feel like Tedder gave one of the 100 songs he threw away to work with Rob, and then the rest was just so lazy....I don't know even know. Rob is a great songwriter, I can't imagine he wanted this to be released first. I hope this doesn't get critically panned, this is BAD. I always think of ohs, nahs, tas, etc as just filler, useless lyrics
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Post by Kyle on May 28, 2015 15:09:30 GMT -5
I think the worse song compared to this would be "Our Song" off of North. I could not stand that song, it was way too poppy for me. For some reason I like this one though.
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Post by Rumors on May 28, 2015 18:44:51 GMT -5
This is why I like Rob. He's just cool. :) He obviously knows lots of fans aren't digging the new song and some tweeted that he liked Rob but not the new song. Rob's tweet back... Rob Thomas @thisisrobthomas gotta keep doing new things or you die. You'll like stuff in the new album I also think Rob picked the single. He said in an article long ago that the band and he when solo pick the singles. They may strongly consider input from others (management, family, label, etc.) but at the end of the day they make the call. So I think Rob is fully behind this song, in my opinion of course. Having said that I don't think they always get it right (i.e., Overjoyed).
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Post by Kyle on May 28, 2015 22:14:23 GMT -5
This is why I like Rob. He's just cool. :) He obviously knows lots of fans aren't digging the new song and some tweeted that he liked Rob but not the new song. Rob's tweet back... Rob Thomas @thisisrobthomas gotta keep doing new things or you die. You'll like stuff in the new album I also think Rob picked the single. He said in an article long ago that the band and he when solo pick the singles. They may strongly consider input from others (management, family, label, etc.) but at the end of the day they make the call. So I think Rob is fully behind this song, in my opinion of course. Having said that I don't think they always get it right (i.e., Overjoyed). I don't think Overjoyed was a bad song by any means, but it didn't feel like single material. I think that How Long or Radio would have been great singles. Hell even maybe Parade.
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Post by The Music Man on May 29, 2015 23:05:35 GMT -5
I was definitely surprised by this on first listen; thought it sounded like an Enrique Iglesias song. After hearing this twice more, it's catchy and truthfully not a departure from Rob's previous solo material. If he was truly engaged in recording and releasing this song, and I have no reason to think he wasn't, I have no objection.
It's also by far the best move strategically. HAC has washed its hands of the soccer-mom sound embodied by 2000's-era MB20, Lifehouse, Fray, etc. If Rob attempted to release another "Someday," it would be lucky to breach the #15 threshold at absolute most. This is fresh and uptempo enough for the format to embrace more confidently, and it's already got some big-market spins to show for it. A CHR smash is essentially out of the question, but if it builds a story at HAC, it could at least break the Top 40 or so there.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on May 30, 2015 1:34:02 GMT -5
The main problem with the song is that it just doesn't really sound like his natural vocals. the music is passable, but good vocals are a must. It might just hit it off with the pop crowd because Poptarts fans don't really care about good vocal abilities. Just make em all sound like robots with autotune and you got a sure fire hit.
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Post by Rumors on May 30, 2015 10:17:12 GMT -5
[quote author=" The Music Man" source="/post/5238314/thread" timestamp="1432958735 "]"I was definitely surprised by this on first listen; thought it sounded like an Enrique Iglesias song. After hearing this twice more, it's catchy and truthfully not a departure from Rob's previous solo material. If he was truly engaged in recording and releasing this song, and I have no reason to think he wasn't, I have no objection.
It's also by far the best move strategically. HAC has washed its hands of the soccer-mom sound embodied by 2000's-era MB20, Lifehouse, Fray, etc. If Rob attempted to release another "Someday," it would be lucky to breach the #15 threshold at absolute most. This is fresh and uptempo enough for the format to embrace more confidently, and it's already got some big-market spins to show for it. "
Thank you for this. I couldn't agree more. Some people may say that Rob is selling out but I say he is just being smart. I would surmise that neither Cradlesong or North met commercial expectations so this song to me is Rob making a current sounding pop song that I just think has a killer beat, chorus, and vocals. Reading some comments here I think I'm listening to a different song. LOL! Anyway, it's all good. Music is so subjective. That's why there's so many diverse types of music now. I like a lot of current pop songs and this song does fit right in. I don't really follow radio charts anymore so it's good to hear that this song has a few spins so far. I hope someone will occasionally post here with radio updates. It's not going to make any digital noise unless radio picks it up. I followed it on iTunes and as far as I know it peaked at #78 all genres. It's currently sitting at #48 on the pop chart. Atlantic has paid for a banner all week so I'm really curious to see what effort they put into radio. Kind of like a case study for HotAC. :) So it looks like either his fans simply didn't buy the single or that he doesn't have much of a diehard fan base (those people that know about an artist releasing something without first hearing it on the radio). So if this song is going to hit it will be radio that drives that hit - not the other way around. Again, I'm curious to sit back and see what happens with this single and single #2. Even if this flops I think he will get a second single. I just have a hunch that this album is going to be great for us pop fans out here. Rob's new music is just going to need to find a new audience. :) Oh yeah, one last point - Rob's got people talking about this song. It may not all be positive but at least people have an opinion about it (kind of how Kayne West has built his entire career). Rob could have released a really lovely, safe ballad that everyone would be okay with but that radio would ignore. Where's the fun in that? Edit - And I obviously don't know how to use the quote feature on here!!!
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Post by No Brake$ on May 30, 2015 12:50:31 GMT -5
I don't think it is a coincidence that RT's worst charting songs were the ones that were more pop than rock. It doesn't matter what's released for a core artist like himself, if the song is good, it gets played. If Train could figure how to get on the radio with two big hits (both went to pop and we're definitely Adult Rock with Hey Soul Sister and If It's Love), not to mention another album afterwards, then Matchbox 20 and Rob should be able to figure it out, that's all I'm saying.
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Post by No Brake$ on May 30, 2015 12:52:40 GMT -5
Sorry, I mean everything I said above but to add, figure out how to get on radio and make sales without getting a hold of Ryan Tedder or Autotune or some goofy chorus. Watch this blow up. I hope it epically flops and they out money into a second single before the album is even close to being released
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 13:01:09 GMT -5
It's a weird mix of One Republic and Enrique Iglesias... I'm not sure I like this...
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Post by Rumors on May 30, 2015 13:25:41 GMT -5
I don't think it is a coincidence that RT's worst charting songs were the ones that were more pop than rock. It doesn't matter what's released for a core artist like himself, if the song is good, it gets played. If Train could figure how to get on the radio with two big hits (both went to pop and we're definitely Adult Rock with Hey Soul Sister and If It's Love), not to mention another album afterwards, then Matchbox 20 and Rob should be able to figure it out, that's all I'm saying. See, this is where music is so subjective. I think Train is so bland. Pat has a great voice but man those songs and some of his lyrics...I'll pass. I'll take Trust You over Hey Soul Sister any day. I guess the point that you and others might be trying to make is really this...Rob made rock music on 1-2 albums with MB20 and that's really all I'm going to like listening to from him even if that's not what is that popular today on the one format that will play his music. (Rob and MB20 were banished from alt/rock stations I guess as far back as 3am.) It doesn't really matter that Rob apparently likes pop music just as much as rock music. I've been a fan for 14 years? and I remember Rob posting how totally torn up he was when Michael Jackson died. I guess the main point is the "from him" part. Someone above posted that they like the song okay - just not from Rob. Rob's biggest solo hit is definitely pop, Lonely No More. So I would really argue that as a solo artist Rob has been a pop artist and not a rock artist all along. I don't think he expects every MB20 fan to be a fan of his solo stuff. I mean I like MB20 but I don't feel like I must like the music of the other guys in the band. I'm not THAT big a fan. MB20 - soft rock, pop, adult top 40 Rob solo - Pop, and now maybe some electronic and hip-hop beats As for Rob being a core artist of HotAC, I think that's what The Music Man was saying...THAT HotAC is gone as much as I may have personally loved the format over the years. Again - nothing personal to anyone. We are obviously all here because we like music more than most people....just not the same music (which is good). Have a great Saturday afternoon - off to a BBQ I go. :)
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Post by Rumors on May 30, 2015 13:29:30 GMT -5
Well....that's kind of sad....maybe you should just skip this era. Rob may go alt country or something for you on the next album.
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Post by Kyle on May 30, 2015 14:53:04 GMT -5
I mean Rob has stated on Twitter numerous times that there is something on this album for everyone, and that he isn't offended if you don't like "Trust You," hes acknowledged the fact that it is a departure from what he normally releases. To me I see solo Rob and MB20 as two different entities as they are different. Like Rumors said, MB20 is more rock, and solo Rob is more pop.
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Post by Daryl the Beryl on Jun 1, 2015 6:14:46 GMT -5
Top 50 on Hot AC:
0 49 ROB THOMAS Trust You 227 0 227 1.447
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Post by crazyfun1 on Jun 1, 2015 20:15:02 GMT -5
I love OneRepublic and old school MB20 but this song is terrible.
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Post by thirddegree50123 on Jun 2, 2015 3:21:01 GMT -5
Sounds like "Bad Romance." Didnt like it at first but it's growing on me. Not sure how well it'll do
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 2, 2015 7:34:48 GMT -5
+271 bullet after one full week, I'm pretty sure this is his worst first week on any song, ever. Perhaps they jump ship on this right now and switch gears, pretend it never happened. Other artists have had to do it before. Consider it a "buzz single"?
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Post by Kyle on Jun 2, 2015 20:46:21 GMT -5
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Post by musiciscool on Jun 2, 2015 23:05:58 GMT -5
I'm really hoping that Trust You can manage to get high enough on HOT AC radio. Even though this was most added on HOT AC radio, does that really guarantee a lot of airplay?
Since HOT AC is mirroring POP radio, and has been slowly been doing so for years now, I hope Rob has a chance on HOT AC still. It really stinks that this is what it has come down to, but if the acts of the 90s, and 2000s are being phased out, Trust You may very well be doomed. I want to be wrong about this.
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Post by crazyfun1 on Jun 3, 2015 4:43:25 GMT -5
Being added to radio and radio stations actually playing songs are 2 different things. I'm sure radio adds tons of songs without ever playing them.
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Post by Rumors on Jun 3, 2015 5:00:54 GMT -5
Loved the video clips on Facebook. Took me back to Rob in Lonely No More. I love that video.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the official adds date was yesterday. Let's give it more than 24 hours before we call it a failure. Rob won't release another "first" single. This is what they went with and they will stand behind it I'm sure. Now, whether he'll put out a second single at the end of summer and before the album comes out I don't know about that. Neither Rob or MB20 has done that in the past but there's always a first time for everything. What did Ed S. do with his current album? Same label Rob is on.
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