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Post by Nyte on May 3, 2016 14:51:07 GMT -5
The Wiki defines the OHW based off that -- the industry standard. Until Billboard specifically says anything otherwise, that's what we're going on for this topic and any discussion of official OHWs. The Billboard writer in 2009 should be fired then for daring to put out a list that did not conform to the Wikipedia/Industry/nyte standards. Anyway, have fun with that. Not my standards, Billboard standards. It's common knowledge that appearing in the Top 40 (officially) makes a song a hit, whether it's a hit culturally depends.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 3, 2016 14:57:37 GMT -5
One/hit-wonder as a term has gone far beyond that of chart definitions anyway. If Billboard, or any chart for that matter, tried to define it by their own chart, that's their attempt at owning the term and making it their own - which would never hold anyway. If anyone chooses to use Billboard's definition, okay, but it's not the generally accepted definition of the word and you'll look ridiculous doing so.
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Post by lyhom on May 3, 2016 15:00:50 GMT -5
besides, the first sentence of the wikipedia article goes:
"The term one-hit wonder is most often used to describe music performers with only one top-40 hit single that overshadows their other work."
take note of the bold.
like it doesn't really matter anyways since the definition changes for every person lmao
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Post by Gary on May 3, 2016 15:01:10 GMT -5
The Billboard writer in 2009 should be fired then for daring to put out a list that did not conform to the Wikipedia/Industry/nyte standards. Anyway, have fun with that. Not my standards, Billboard standards. It's common knowledge that appearing in the Top 40 (officially) makes a song a hit, whether it's a hit culturally depends. Disagree on all counts. Billboard does not have "official standards", I gave you an example written by Billboard with a completely different definition than yours. it is not common knowledge that peaking at #40 is the magic threshold to say a song is a "hit". Truth is, there is no magic threshold. Some "hits" in reality have nothing to do with their chart peaks. Whose to say a song that peaks at #41 is any more or less or a hit than a song that peaks at #40? By your definition, that #41 song isn't even a hit to begin with. You don't seem to get it but that's OK. If you want to rely on a two-decade old book written by an independent journalist you want to rely on Wikpedia as your source of all truth go right ahead. You even want to call it the "official Billboard standard" go right ahead. You may find your definitions are not as universally accepted as you think.
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Post by Nyte on May 3, 2016 15:04:44 GMT -5
Not my standards, Billboard standards. It's common knowledge that appearing in the Top 40 (officially) makes a song a hit, whether it's a hit culturally depends. Disagree on all counts. Billboard does not have "official standards", I gave you an example written by Billboard with a completely different definition than yours. it is not common knowledge that peaking at #40 is the magic threshold to say a song is a "hit". Truth is, there is no magic threshold. Some "hits" in reality have nothing to do with their chart peaks. Whose to say a song that peaks at #41 is any more or less or a hit than a song that peaks at #40? By your definition, that #41 song isn't even a hit to begin with. You don't seem to get it but that's OK. If you want to rely on a two-decade old book written by an independent journalist you want to rely on Wikpedia as your source of all truth go right ahead. You even want to call it the "official Billboard standard" go right ahead. There is no "singular" definition, but the Billboard-approved book is the more-or-less the official one. Every knows the term "Top 40" -- that's the area where a song is generally considered to be in the "zone". Top 20 is where songs are definitely hits, but we're going by Top 40. Now can we please get back to the discussion? This becoming tiresome. I would rather speculate about the futures of the artists who scored their first hit than argue all day about something like this.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 3, 2016 15:09:40 GMT -5
Official? Naw.
As an aside, I'd call Rebecca Black a one hit wonder.
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Post by Gary on May 3, 2016 15:26:34 GMT -5
Disagree on all counts. Billboard does not have "official standards", I gave you an example written by Billboard with a completely different definition than yours. it is not common knowledge that peaking at #40 is the magic threshold to say a song is a "hit". Truth is, there is no magic threshold. Some "hits" in reality have nothing to do with their chart peaks. Whose to say a song that peaks at #41 is any more or less or a hit than a song that peaks at #40? By your definition, that #41 song isn't even a hit to begin with. You don't seem to get it but that's OK. If you want to rely on a two-decade old book written by an independent journalist you want to rely on Wikpedia as your source of all truth go right ahead. You even want to call it the "official Billboard standard" go right ahead. There is no "singular" definition, but the Billboard-approved book is the more-or-less the official one. Every knows the term "Top 40" -- that's the area where a song is generally considered to be in the "zone". Top 20 is where songs are definitely hits, but we're going by Top 40. Now can we please get back to the discussion? This becoming tiresome. I would rather speculate about the futures of the artists who scored their first hit than argue all day about something like this. Lots of Billboard approved lists/books have come out since 1997. You happened to only see one. But yes, for this thread we have your definition, perhaps you will find that even though you are branding it the "universally accepted definition", it may not be as "universal" as you think. Carry on
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 19:01:00 GMT -5
Desiigner DNCE G-Eazy Zayn
for some reason I feel like Lukas Graham will get another top 10 hit, idk why
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 10:03:24 GMT -5
These 2 are going to be legit 1 hit wonders. Add them to this list.
Kent Jones and Ruth B.
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Post by maine on May 23, 2016 14:03:28 GMT -5
twenty one pilots follow up "Stressed Out" with "Ride", as that is #36 on the Hot 100 now.
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Post by MTSChart21 on May 23, 2016 15:08:21 GMT -5
With proper promotion, Zayn will not be a one-hit wonder. Especially with the fanbase he has.
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Post by redrooster on May 24, 2016 2:20:10 GMT -5
With proper promotion, Zayn will not be a one-hit wonder. Especially with the fanbase he has. Bold prediction: DNCE and Zara Larsson will be one hit wonders. Like I Would was just released today, which puts it on pace to start making waves on the Hot 100 chart dated June 18th. How that song does will likely tell us all we need to know about Zayn's future.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 24, 2016 2:22:13 GMT -5
I really ought to bookmark that post so in two months I can drag you for being 100% wrong.
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Post by redrooster on Jun 1, 2016 15:23:47 GMT -5
Okay, Sound of Silence is killing me. It needs to either go top 40 or drop out like right now!
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Post by MTSChart21 on Jun 1, 2016 15:53:59 GMT -5
With proper promotion, Zayn will not be a one-hit wonder. Especially with the fanbase he has. Bold prediction: DNCE and Zara Larsson will be one hit wonders. Toothbrush is already doing well, so I don't think you will be right about DNCE.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 17:13:34 GMT -5
Okay, Sound of Silence is killing me. It needs to either go top 40 or drop out like right now! It doesnt matter if it doesnt reach top 40. Its already considered a hit.
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Post by redrooster on Jun 1, 2016 18:31:07 GMT -5
Bold prediction: DNCE and Zara Larsson will be one hit wonders. Toothbrush is already doing well, so I don't think you will be right about DNCE. Doing well? It hasn't even made the Hot 100 yet!
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Jun 1, 2016 23:12:32 GMT -5
besides, the first sentence of the wikipedia article goes: "The term one-hit wonder is most often used to describe music performers with only one top-40 hit single that overshadows their other work." take note of the bold. like it doesn't really matter anyways since the definition changes for every person lmao With that definition, 90% of the Pop gurls would be considered one hit wonders.
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Post by redrooster on Jun 2, 2016 1:05:33 GMT -5
besides, the first sentence of the wikipedia article goes: "The term one-hit wonder is most often used to describe music performers with only one top-40 hit single that overshadows their other work." take note of the bold. like it doesn't really matter anyways since the definition changes for every person lmao With that definition, 90% of the Pop gurls would be considered one hit wonders. Carly Rae Jepsen and One Direction aren't one hit wonders you moron
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Jun 2, 2016 1:59:40 GMT -5
With that definition, 90% of the Pop gurls would be considered one hit wonders. Carly Rae Jepsen and One Direction aren't one hit wonders you moron I didn't know One Direction were considered Pop gurls. Well, Liam maybe because of, you know.
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Post by redrooster on Jun 2, 2016 2:45:07 GMT -5
Carly Rae Jepsen and One Direction aren't one hit wonders you moron I didn't know One Direction were considered Pop gurls. Well, Liam maybe because of, you know. Was referring to your comment on the other thread which you failed to address TWICE. And by the way, when I say Carly isn't a one hit wonder, I am not referring to "I Really Like You" ;)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 2, 2016 5:09:49 GMT -5
With that definition, 90% of the Pop gurls would be considered one hit wonders. Carly Rae Jepsen and One Direction aren't one hit wonders you moron Reported
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Post by House Lannister on Jun 6, 2016 15:42:24 GMT -5
Since we're done with "another discussion" of one hit wonders, I'd like to do a new update of newer entries now:
Out: OT Genasis (unfortunately; Cut It) Twenty One Pilots (Ride)
In: Kent Jones (Don't Mind) Ruth B. (Lost Boy) Ghost Town DJ's (My Boo) Remy Ma (All the Way Up)
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Jun 6, 2016 16:17:51 GMT -5
Is Remy Ma a OHW? If I'm not mistaken she was on "Lean Back".
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Post by thebulse on Jun 9, 2016 21:13:14 GMT -5
Ok guys this the possible roster of 1 Hit Wonders for the week of 6/18/16
Post Malone- White Iverson Alessia Cara- Here Tory Lanez- Say It Cam- Burning House G-Eazy- Me Myself and I Camila Cabello- I know what You Did Last Summer ROZES- Roses DNCE- Cake by the Ocean Yo Gotti- Down in the DM ZAYN- Pillowtalk Karen Farechild- Home Alone Tonight Lukas Graham- 7 Years James Bay- Let it Go Kevin Gates- 2 Phones Zara Larrson- Never Forget You MNEK- Never Forget You Bipolar Sunshine- Middle Troye Sivan- YOUTH Desiinger- Panda WizKid- One Dance Kyla- One Dance Ghost Town DJs- My Boo Ruth B- Lost Boy Kent Jones- Don't Mind Remy Ma- All the way up Infared- All the Way Up
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 21:22:21 GMT -5
Kevin Gates is not a 1 hit wonder. Neither is Yo Gotti or Alessia Cara.
Just cause a song doesnt reach top 40, doesnt mean that its a hit.
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Post by godjanny on Jun 9, 2016 22:23:57 GMT -5
f**k any bitch that calls Yo Gotti a one hit wonder, that law. By the way, this isn't meant to be shade, I was just quoting the song.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:56:54 GMT -5
G-Eazy will be getting another hit this year, probably You Don't Own Me.
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Post by thebulse on Jun 10, 2016 12:10:34 GMT -5
I'm just going by the rules guys. This is not the official roster but the current and possible one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 12:26:16 GMT -5
It is not a rule. Whoever said top 40 status is 1 hit wonder is BS. I gave plenty of examples of songs hitting top 40 that werent hits and songs not hitting top 40 that were hits.
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