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Post by Mr. Wonder on Apr 29, 2010 15:16:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 15:17:19 GMT -5
kiiiiiiiii of course you would promote such cheap eyewear.
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Post by Mr. Wonder on Apr 29, 2010 15:17:29 GMT -5
IWALY is the second most successful song of all time. AIWFC is not. IWALY was #1 for 14 weeks on the Hot 100. AIWFC was not. IWALY gets airplay year round. AIWFC does not. IWALY is covered on every singing competition around the world. AIWFC does not. IWALY was #1 on the world chart for like 22 weeks. AIWFC was not. IWALY propelled The Bodyguard to selling over 40 million copies. AIWFC did not. IWALY will be played and covered for years to come. AIWFC will not. This looks like nothing more than a pressed senior citizen's bullet points, so get up out my face. I've come to realize that when someone gets called a troll or pressed, that often means the person responding often has no argument to rebuttal with.
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Post by Mr. Wonder on Apr 29, 2010 15:17:56 GMT -5
kiiiiiiiii of course you would promote such cheap eyewear. Gotta appeal to the audience.
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Post by K Newman on Apr 29, 2010 16:18:31 GMT -5
AIWFC is a bonafide Xmas classic, it WILL continue to get played for years.
However, I have to agree with others that it is not on the same level as IWALY. IWALY is on the level of "Respect" and "Billie Jean" and those kinds of iconic hits.
As for the thread question, yes she is relevant. But it is VERY important for her next album to do well.
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Post by PDC1987 on Apr 29, 2010 17:18:17 GMT -5
But that isn't clear, you see? Don't disregard and instead take into account the few posts above commenting on how infrequently each poster involuntarily hears IWALY. What is clear though is how unfit you are to compare the two songs given your obvious bias. How is going on statistics being biased? ??? IWALY is now the second most successful song EVER. AIWFC isn't. If you don't like it, take it up with Mediatraffic and the ppl who made IWALY the success that it is. MediaTraffic? You're applying weight to a website that compiles weekly singles charts for weeks before the internet, let alone their website, was created?
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Post by gin on Apr 29, 2010 17:49:12 GMT -5
An example of your blatant bias wouldn't go further than referring to Mariah Carey as MooMoo, and then we have that opulent posting history of yours to solidify that claim; but I digress. You appear to be fixated with the common sense card and I believe AIWFC's title establishes exactly what time of the year it receives the bulk (or entirety) of its airplay so you can just pack that away for good. The most successful song and/or the second most successful song are undefined; I'm sure this is very difficult to stomach so consolation sessions are available via pm. It also doesn't provide anyone basis for appreciating a song anymore than one deems necessary. You, on the other hand, are dead set on the opposite. As I asked earlier, take into account the empirical evidence on display in this exact thread. Other posters, beside yourself but including me, have stated how rarely they'll come across IWALY on their respective radio dials. You're free to disregard each & every post that concludes AIWFC as the more lasting and/or impactful of the pair but you're not going to change anyone's mind. This sounds like nothing more than a troubled child's diary entry. Girl get the hell over it. IWALY is the second most successful song of all time. AIWFC is not. IWALY was #1 for 14 weeks on the Hot 100. AIWFC was not. IWALY gets airplay year round. AIWFC does not. IWALY is covered on every singing competition around the world. AIWFC does not. IWALY was #1 on the world chart for like 22 weeks. AIWFC was not. IWALY propelled The Bodyguard to selling over 40 million copies. AIWFC did not. IWALY will be played and covered for years to come. AIWFC will not. Again, if you don't like it, take it up with Billboard and Mediatraffic. Blame iTunes for selling the single. Blame Arista for shipping out the physical single and the public buying it. I'm not here to argue the facts. You can have you opinions, that's fine. But facts will always outweigh opinions. Get the point? Good. Let's dance. Gorl, SIT down.[/img]
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Post by Rurry on Apr 29, 2010 17:54:26 GMT -5
I'm sorry but the "I Will Always Love You gets airplay year-round while All I Want for Christmas is You only get its at Christmas time so IWALY is a bigger hit" argument might be one of the worst arguments I've ever seen here at Pulse. What are you expecting, people to be blasting it at their 4th of July barbecues? ???
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 29, 2010 18:05:30 GMT -5
it seriously is one of the dumbest arguments the lambs have come up with to make mariah look more superior, which fails.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 18:05:52 GMT -5
at Mediatraffic. That's all that needs to be said really.
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Post by Tanisha Thomas. on Apr 29, 2010 18:11:43 GMT -5
I'm sorry but the "I Will Always Love You gets airplay year-round while All I Want for Christmas is You only get its at Christmas time so IWALY is a bigger hit" argument might be one of the worst arguments I've ever seen here at Pulse. What are you expecting, people to be blasting it at their 4th of July barbecues? ??? This whole debate is feeble and kinda off-topic. The whole "I don't hear "I Will Always Love You" on my local radio station as much as I do "All I Want For Christmas" isn't very strong either. The funny thing about this is that both songs are seen as these artists' signature songs. I say both are both classics. Which one is more "classic" is left to a particular person's discretion.
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Post by David on Apr 29, 2010 18:31:49 GMT -5
An example of your blatant bias wouldn't go further than referring to Mariah Carey as MooMoo, and then we have that opulent posting history of yours to solidify that claim; but I digress. You appear to be fixated with the common sense card and I believe AIWFC's title establishes exactly what time of the year it receives the bulk (or entirety) of its airplay so you can just pack that away for good. The most successful song and/or the second most successful song are undefined; I'm sure this is very difficult to stomach so consolation sessions are available via pm. It also doesn't provide anyone basis for appreciating a song anymore than one deems necessary. You, on the other hand, are dead set on the opposite. As I asked earlier, take into account the empirical evidence on display in this exact thread. Other posters, beside yourself but including me, have stated how rarely they'll come across IWALY on their respective radio dials. You're free to disregard each & every post that concludes AIWFC as the more lasting and/or impactful of the pair but you're not going to change anyone's mind. This sounds like nothing more than a troubled child's diary entry. Girl get the hell over it. IWALY is the second most successful song of all time. AIWFC is not. IWALY was #1 for 14 weeks on the Hot 100. AIWFC was not. IWALY gets airplay year round. AIWFC does not. IWALY is covered on every singing competition around the world. AIWFC does not. IWALY was #1 on the world chart for like 22 weeks. AIWFC was not. IWALY propelled The Bodyguard to selling over 40 million copies. AIWFC did not. IWALY will be played and covered for years to come. AIWFC will not. Again, if you don't like it, take it up with Billboard and Mediatraffic. Blame iTunes for selling the single. Blame Arista for shipping out the physical single and the public buying it. I'm not here to argue the facts. You can have you opinions, that's fine. But facts will always outweigh opinions. Get the point? Good. Let's dance. AIWFC still tops recurrent airplay atleast once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC still goes top 20 on itunes once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC is the best selling holiday single of all time. IWALY is not. AIWFC topped the holiday songs. IWALY did not.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 29, 2010 18:34:13 GMT -5
It can be argued that 'All I Want For Christmas Is You' is not considered to be one of Mariah's signature songs being tons of people don't even realize that it's her song and not a cover.
LOL at the "IWALY GETS AIRPLAY ALL YEAR SO ITS MORE POPULAR!!1!!11" argument.
Oh, and I love David.
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Post by NeRD on Apr 29, 2010 18:47:11 GMT -5
This sounds like nothing more than a troubled child's diary entry. Girl get the hell over it. IWALY is the second most successful song of all time. AIWFC is not. IWALY was #1 for 14 weeks on the Hot 100. AIWFC was not. IWALY gets airplay year round. AIWFC does not. IWALY is covered on every singing competition around the world. AIWFC does not. IWALY was #1 on the world chart for like 22 weeks. AIWFC was not. IWALY propelled The Bodyguard to selling over 40 million copies. AIWFC did not. IWALY will be played and covered for years to come. AIWFC will not. Again, if you don't like it, take it up with Billboard and Mediatraffic. Blame iTunes for selling the single. Blame Arista for shipping out the physical single and the public buying it. I'm not here to argue the facts. You can have you opinions, that's fine. But facts will always outweigh opinions. Get the point? Good. Let's dance. AIWFC still tops recurrent airplay atleast once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC still goes top 20 on itunes once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC is the best selling holiday single of all time. IWALY is not. AIWFC topped the holiday songs. IWALY did not. DEATH
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Post by PDC1987 on Apr 29, 2010 18:49:32 GMT -5
This sounds like nothing more than a troubled child's diary entry. Girl get the hell over it. IWALY is the second most successful song of all time. AIWFC is not. IWALY was #1 for 14 weeks on the Hot 100. AIWFC was not. IWALY gets airplay year round. AIWFC does not. IWALY is covered on every singing competition around the world. AIWFC does not. IWALY was #1 on the world chart for like 22 weeks. AIWFC was not. IWALY propelled The Bodyguard to selling over 40 million copies. AIWFC did not. IWALY will be played and covered for years to come. AIWFC will not. Again, if you don't like it, take it up with Billboard and Mediatraffic. Blame iTunes for selling the single. Blame Arista for shipping out the physical single and the public buying it. I'm not here to argue the facts. You can have you opinions, that's fine. But facts will always outweigh opinions. Get the point? Good. Let's dance. AIWFC still tops recurrent airplay atleast once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC still goes top 20 on itunes once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC is the best selling holiday single of all time. IWALY is not. AIWFC topped the holiday songs. IWALY did not. *cough* "White Christmas" *cough*
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Post by ƒreakshow on Apr 29, 2010 18:51:56 GMT -5
AIWFC topped the holiday songs. IWALY did not.
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Post by David on Apr 29, 2010 18:53:17 GMT -5
AIWFC still tops recurrent airplay atleast once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC still goes top 20 on itunes once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC is the best selling holiday single of all time. IWALY is not. AIWFC topped the holiday songs. IWALY did not. *cough* "White Christmas" *cough*Well if you wanna nitpick.
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Post by Mr. Wonder on Apr 29, 2010 19:37:48 GMT -5
This sounds like nothing more than a troubled child's diary entry. Girl get the hell over it. IWALY is the second most successful song of all time. AIWFC is not. IWALY was #1 for 14 weeks on the Hot 100. AIWFC was not. IWALY gets airplay year round. AIWFC does not. IWALY is covered on every singing competition around the world. AIWFC does not. IWALY was #1 on the world chart for like 22 weeks. AIWFC was not. IWALY propelled The Bodyguard to selling over 40 million copies. AIWFC did not. IWALY will be played and covered for years to come. AIWFC will not. Again, if you don't like it, take it up with Billboard and Mediatraffic. Blame iTunes for selling the single. Blame Arista for shipping out the physical single and the public buying it. I'm not here to argue the facts. You can have you opinions, that's fine. But facts will always outweigh opinions. Get the point? Good. Let's dance. AIWFC still tops recurrent airplay atleast once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC still goes top 20 on itunes once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC is the best selling holiday single of all time. IWALY is not. AIWFC topped the holiday songs. IWALY did not. How silly of me to underestimate the competitiveness of the holiday songs charts. :o MOVE OVER Hot 100, a new sheriff is in town! :o
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Post by Mr. Wonder on Apr 29, 2010 19:38:52 GMT -5
How is going on statistics being biased? ??? IWALY is now the second most successful song EVER. AIWFC isn't. If you don't like it, take it up with Mediatraffic and the ppl who made IWALY the success that it is. MediaTraffic? You're applying weight to a website that compiles weekly singles charts for weeks before the internet, let alone their website, was created? Isn't it hilarious to see ppl try to discredit others when the source isn't convenient for their argument?
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Post by Bojangles on Apr 29, 2010 19:52:25 GMT -5
AIWFC still tops recurrent airplay atleast once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC still goes top 20 on itunes once a year. IWALY does not. AIWFC is the best selling holiday single of all time. IWALY is not. AIWFC topped the holiday songs. IWALY did not. How silly of me to underestimate the competitiveness of the holiday songs charts. :o MOVE OVER Hot 100, a new sheriff is in town! :o How much more clearer can we get that AIWFCIY is a HOLIDAY song, so of course around the holidays it's going to get madd airplay and itunes sales? Just like all other popular Holiday songs? I mean, seriously. LOL That's like saying IWALY is the biggest soundtrack single of all time and AIWFCIY is not.
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Post by weaver on Apr 29, 2010 20:07:16 GMT -5
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Post by Mr. Wonder on Apr 29, 2010 20:07:35 GMT -5
How silly of me to underestimate the competitiveness of the holiday songs charts. :o MOVE OVER Hot 100, a new sheriff is in town! :o How much more clearer can we get that AIWFCIY is a HOLIDAY song, so of course around the holidays it's going to get madd airplay and itunes sales? Just like all other popular Holiday songs? I mean, seriously. LOL That's like saying IWALY is the biggest soundtrack single of all time and AIWFCIY is not. !!!! Additionally, the bulk of consumer activity is during the holiday seasons. And AIWFC is a holiday song so of course it's gonna get airplay. A song that gets year round airplay will be more recognized than a song that's only played for about a month and some change. If you were to add up the yearly airplay of IWALY and AWIFC, they could probably be the same. IWALY, on a scale of popularity, is up there with Billie Jean, La Isla Bonita, and I Will Survive. When the acapella intro of "Iiiiiiifffffffffff IIIIIIIIIII shooooould staaaay....", ppl already know what time it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 20:10:57 GMT -5
A song that receives a very high amount of concentrated airplay around the holiday seasons could very well be better known than a song that receives less concentrated airplay throughout the year. Once a year All I Want For Christmas is ALL over the radio and on every type of radio station not just radio stations playing old songs.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 29, 2010 20:16:34 GMT -5
How much more clearer can we get that AIWFCIY is a HOLIDAY song, so of course around the holidays it's going to get madd airplay and itunes sales? Just like all other popular Holiday songs? I mean, seriously. LOL That's like saying IWALY is the biggest soundtrack single of all time and AIWFCIY is not. !!!! Additionally, the bulk of consumer activity is during the holiday seasons. And AIWFC is a holiday song so of course it's gonna get airplay. A song that gets year round airplay will be more recognized than a song that's only played for about a month and some change. If you were to add up the yearly airplay of IWALY and AWIFC, they could probably be the same. IWALY, on a scale of popularity, is up there with Billie Jean, La Isla Bonita, and I Will Survive. When the acapella intro of "Iiiiiiifffffffffff IIIIIIIIIII shooooould staaaay....", ppl already know what time it is. Yeah...old people. Kids won't know what IWALY is but I bet they all have AIWFCIY on their iPods. It being a holiday song has nothing to do with it IMO. Mariah's is more popular because people of all generations generally love and enjoy it, whereas IWALY is not necessarily a generation-crossing song. Just basing it off of my own personal experience with people my age. IWALY was actually brought up in conversation the other day and nobody knew what it was.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 20:17:03 GMT -5
This is hysterical. LOL!!!
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Post by Mic Technique on Apr 29, 2010 20:18:34 GMT -5
AIWFCIY is a huge Christmas song, but it will never be on IWALY's level. Get real lambs. I don't need to be brought to reality because I am not deluded and I deserve to be addressed specifically as I am perfectly capable of assuming a stance without having my efforts supressed by any affiliation you desire to brand me with. I'm an adult, thank you. This sounds like nothing more than a troubled child's diary entry. Girl get the hell over it. I beg to differ; though if we're going to aim below the belt, I suggest you think twice. IWALY is the second most successful song of all time. AIWFC is not. IWALY was #1 for 14 weeks on the Hot 100. AIWFC was not. IWALY gets airplay year round. AIWFC does not. IWALY is covered on every singing competition around the world. AIWFC does not. IWALY was #1 on the world chart for like 22 weeks. AIWFC was not. IWALY propelled The Bodyguard to selling over 40 million copies. AIWFC did not. IWALY will be played and covered for years to come. AIWFC will not. Again, if you don't like it, take it up with Billboard and Mediatraffic. Blame iTunes for selling the single. Blame Arista for shipping out the physical single and the public buying it. I'm not here to argue the facts. You can have you opinions, that's fine. But facts will always outweigh opinions. Here you are again, heedlessly blurting out bullets like you're on the brink of insanity and disregarding the gist of what I had written. Just as my efforts have gone unnoticed, your bullets of no consequence to me. Nevermind how outlandish it is to cite Mediatraffic as a credible source but you are hindering yourself as well your potential audience of accuracy. :gasp: I'll give you a moment to take that in. As we've both stated, you are free to believe as you please but these are not facts. Everything presented can be argued; each song's respective success remains undefined; nothing is concrete; the proof is not in the pudding. I think you got the point, but in the case you did not, I'll be here all night. Get the point? Good. Let's dance. I'll pass. How much more clearer can we get that AIWFCIY is a HOLIDAY song, so of course around the holidays it's going to get madd airplay and itunes sales? Just like all other popular Holiday songs? I mean, seriously. LOL That's like saying IWALY is the biggest soundtrack single of all time and AIWFCIY is not. The showdown between each is certainly perposterous and this is an argument I most certainly would rather not be a participant in but our dearest Human Nature stepped forward and decidedly changed the course of this thread in an effort to skew thought and even rewrite history.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 20:19:14 GMT -5
How much more clearer can we get that AIWFCIY is a HOLIDAY song, so of course around the holidays it's going to get madd airplay and itunes sales? Just like all other popular Holiday songs? I mean, seriously. LOL That's like saying IWALY is the biggest soundtrack single of all time and AIWFCIY is not. !!!! Additionally, the bulk of consumer activity is during the holiday seasons. And AIWFC is a holiday song so of course it's gonna get airplay. A song that gets year round airplay will be more recognized than a song that's only played for about a month and some change. If you were to add up the yearly airplay of IWALY and AWIFC, they could probably be the same. IWALY, on a scale of popularity, is up there with Billie Jean, La Isla Bonita, and I Will Survive. When the acapella intro of "Iiiiiiifffffffffff IIIIIIIIIII shooooould staaaay....", ppl already know what time it is. The very first time I heard that beginning, I KNEW I was listening to something very special.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 20:20:16 GMT -5
!!!! Additionally, the bulk of consumer activity is during the holiday seasons. And AIWFC is a holiday song so of course it's gonna get airplay. A song that gets year round airplay will be more recognized than a song that's only played for about a month and some change. If you were to add up the yearly airplay of IWALY and AWIFC, they could probably be the same. IWALY, on a scale of popularity, is up there with Billie Jean, La Isla Bonita, and I Will Survive. When the acapella intro of "Iiiiiiifffffffffff IIIIIIIIIII shooooould staaaay....", ppl already know what time it is. Yeah...old people. Kids won't know what IWALY is but I bet they all have AIWFCIY on their iPods. It being a holiday song has nothing to do with it IMO. Mariah's is more popular because people of all generations generally love and enjoy it, whereas IWALY is not necessarily a generation-crossing song. Just basing it off of my own personal experience with people my age. IWALY was actually brought up in conversation the other day and nobody knew what it was. Like I said, you had to be old enough to have been there. The song was HUGE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2010 20:21:43 GMT -5
Yeah...old people. Kids won't know what IWALY is but I bet they all have AIWFCIY on their iPods. It being a holiday song has nothing to do with it IMO. Mariah's is more popular because people of all generations generally love and enjoy it, whereas IWALY is not necessarily a generation-crossing song. Just basing it off of my own personal experience with people my age. IWALY was actually brought up in conversation the other day and nobody knew what it was. Like I said, you had to be old enough to have been there. The song was HUGE. People are talking about it's popularity NOW not in 1992. One Sweet Day is the biggest song of all time according to Billboard and most people probably don't even know that song today.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Apr 29, 2010 20:21:47 GMT -5
Yeah...old people. Kids won't know what IWALY is but I bet they all have AIWFCIY on their iPods. It being a holiday song has nothing to do with it IMO. Mariah's is more popular because people of all generations generally love and enjoy it, whereas IWALY is not necessarily a generation-crossing song. Just basing it off of my own personal experience with people my age. IWALY was actually brought up in conversation the other day and nobody knew what it was. Like I said, you had to be old enough to have been there. The song was HUGE. Keyword: was. Just because it was a huge song doesn't mean that kids listening to Justin Bieber are going to be familiar with it. I'm not trying to hate on the song, IWALY is one of my all-time favorite ballads. I'm just trying to be realistic. It seems to me as though people are confusing popularity/familiarity with success. They are not always equivalents.
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