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Post by Luckie Starchild on Dec 7, 2010 22:37:08 GMT -5
"Holding steady" usually indicates that a title saw sales similar to its debut week. Not saying Burlesque didn't hold up well, percentage-wise in its second week, but it didn't"hold steady." So Eminem's latest album failed to "hold steady" following its first week of release?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 7, 2010 22:38:15 GMT -5
^Any album that sees a sizable decline does not "hold steady." One title may hold up better than another, but, as stated, unless something fares similarly to the prior week, it ain't a "steady" showing (rank may be another story- but we're talking about sales numbers). Or has Webster gone and changed the definition of "steady" on me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 23:30:40 GMT -5
I don't know but position wise, albums have fallen from 1 to 39 or 40 The biggest drops on the Billboard 200 in history: (1-37) Light Grenades – Incubus 3 other catalog albums also beat it and it was the 40th most popular album of the week in week #2 after being #1 in the first week
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Post by BadRomance on Dec 8, 2010 0:14:55 GMT -5
Jessica Simpson opening at #123 with 10K. Ouch.
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Post by leoapp on Dec 8, 2010 0:55:04 GMT -5
"Holding steady" usually indicates that a title saw sales similar to its debut week. Not saying Burlesque didn't hold up well, percentage-wise in its second week, but it didn't"hold steady." Please, it drops only 34%, much lower than usual drop for 2nd week. Why don't you admit that this is doing better than expected? It's definitely holding steady. It's just a soundtrack album for a moderate successful movie.
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Post by malwaredie on Dec 8, 2010 0:59:02 GMT -5
"Holding steady" usually indicates that a title saw sales similar to its debut week. Not saying Burlesque didn't hold up well, percentage-wise in its second week, but it didn't"hold steady." Please, it drops only 34%, much lower than usual drop for 2nd week. Why don't you admit that this is doing better than expected? It's definitely holding steady. It's just a soundtrack album for a moderate successful movie. Is English dying around here or what? HolidayGuy is correct and it isn't holding steady unless the percent change is very small in either direction. He never stated that the drop was worse than expected at any point in time.
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Post by grandelf on Dec 8, 2010 1:07:02 GMT -5
So BEP only scanned 7K more than Christina despite having a moderately big hit, damn! Which means there's no such thing as living off previous successes anymore, and BEP appeals to the demographic who could not care less about CDs.
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Post by badrobot on Dec 8, 2010 1:12:01 GMT -5
"Holding steady" usually indicates that a title saw sales similar to its debut week. Not saying Burlesque didn't hold up well, percentage-wise in its second week, but it didn't"hold steady." Please, it drops only 34%, much lower than usual drop for 2nd week. Why don't you admit that this is doing better than expected? It's definitely holding steady. It's just a soundtrack album for a moderate successful movie. Holding steady = ~0% drop/increase Holding up well = smaller than normal/expected decrease I think you meant to say it was holding up well.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 8, 2010 9:37:41 GMT -5
^Exactly. And for the record, I think it's too generous to use "moderately successful" to describe a movie playing in 3,000+ theaters, that had loads of promotion and is on target for a finish of ~$37 million in the USA and Canada. And, most box office analysts would tend to agree.
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 8, 2010 9:40:52 GMT -5
Burlesque, at the box office anyway, is having some of the smallest decreases on the chart daily. It has already outperformed other holiday musical releases, like Rent and Nine, and the soundtrack has far outpaced those releases as well. It has shown nice legs along the way.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 8, 2010 9:53:49 GMT -5
^Adjusting for inflation, Burlesque has performed pretty close to Rent. And, to use a movie that's been mentioned in a lot of the reviews, Showgirls would have grossed ~ $37.2 million in today's dollars (and that was with an NC-17 rating). While some of its daily percentage decreases may not be as large as others, seven other films in the top 10 had larger Friday-Saturday gains. Like I said, it's not a huge flop, but it's also not really a hit- it's performed mildly- i.e. it likely won't even crack the year's top 60-grossing releases in the USA and Canada.
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Post by jams on Dec 8, 2010 14:01:26 GMT -5
I hope this means the end to Will I Am using the Peas albums to try to revive his failed solo career. Every song is just about him, and he ruins Fergie's vocals with autotune on nearly ever track. It sure seemed like an attempt to use the Peas brand to make himself have the spotlight, since he can't do it on his own. It mostly is about him and Apl, who he always considers his best friend. Apl is not that strong of an artist to carry any song, that is why the Time fails IMO. They could have used Fergie more and instead when for silly, embarrasing raps with Apl. Taboo is nearly non-existent on all of the tracks. I think every since Oprah became Will's buddy because he wrote some song for Obama, it has went to his head. he is absolutely conceited and obnoxious some of his interviews now, where he used to be very likable.
Supposedly, Fergie is coming out with a solo CD in 2012, she should have really been the one to release a CD now, and not the rushed CD the BEP did.
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 8, 2010 15:17:10 GMT -5
-- 6 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 117,066 -- BEGINNING 1 7 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/IDJMG 106,003 -80% MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED... 15 42 KE$HA KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 25,785 -64% CANNIBAL Yeesh -- embarrassing numbers for all of them. i dont consider kanyes numbers embarrasing at all. no hit single, and released black friday of course he was going to have a big second week drop; its opening makes up for that. i thought kesha would be selling more, but i think they shouldve released it in january where its less competiive. BEP is an underperformance yes .
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Dec 8, 2010 15:18:48 GMT -5
i guess that's why the E.N.D failed too, *rolls eyes* Was that not also predominantly Will.
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Post by jams on Dec 8, 2010 17:07:49 GMT -5
i guess that's why the E.N.D failed too, *rolls eyes* Was that not also predominantly Will. The End was no way as Will centered and as autotuned as The Beginning. And it just comes off as a lazy effort. The lyrics are mostly so stupid it's cringeworthy, and how many times must Apl say he's from the Philipines. The BEP is not known for deep lyrics, but between the lyrics and autotune, most of the CD is just more like a remix of songs for a dance club, rather than radio friendly.
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 8, 2010 17:16:06 GMT -5
i guess that's why the E.N.D failed too, *rolls eyes* Was that not also predominantly Will. nah fergie shined brightly on missing you and meet me halfway. her part in boom boom pow was pretty big. IGF decent enough. imma bee she had a big verse. RTB not so much. but she shined on the disc.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 8, 2010 17:23:54 GMT -5
^Exactly. And for the record, I think it's too generous to use "moderately successful" to describe a movie playing in 3,000+ theaters, that had loads of promotion and is on target for a finish of ~$37 million in the USA and Canada. And, most box office analysts would tend to agree. Most box office people are actually saying its doing better than expected. Remember that most predictions said it would do less than 30 million TOTAL for the US and Canada. It is at 30 million total now and still the #3 movie in the country making decent amounts every day. So, perhaps not a smash, but definitely performing better than expected/predicted by box office analysts. And yes, I know people would rather die than admit it, but I can guarantee most people here would have figured it would be out of the top 10 by now. It is nice for her to do better than expected rather than worse this year, ha ha. One small victory amongst a rough year otherwise.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Dec 8, 2010 17:26:02 GMT -5
^Exactly. And for the record, I think it's too generous to use "moderately successful" to describe a movie playing in 3,000+ theaters, that had loads of promotion and is on target for a finish of ~$37 million in the USA and Canada. And, most box office analysts would tend to agree. Most box office people are actually saying its doing better than expected. Remember that most predictions said it would do less than 30 million TOTAL for the US and Canada. It is at 30 million total now and still the #3 movie in the country making decent amounts every day. So, perhaps not a smash, but definitely performing better than expected/predicted by box office analysts. And yes, I know people would rather die than admit it, but I can guarantee most people here would have figured it would be out of the top 10 by now. It is nice for her to do better than expected rather than worse this year, ha ha. One small victory amongst a rough year otherwise. yeah it's doing better than expected, but it'll still have some trouble making that budget back.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 8, 2010 17:27:22 GMT -5
I still blame the Dirty Bit for most of BEP's issues. I hate it so much and I usually love BEP singles. Not a single person I know likes it even amongst people who loved BBP and IGAF AND Imma Be. Such a misstep-I haven't listened to the cd yet to see if there is a savior song that can be released.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Dec 8, 2010 17:29:31 GMT -5
Most box office people are actually saying its doing better than expected. Remember that most predictions said it would do less than 30 million TOTAL for the US and Canada. It is at 30 million total now and still the #3 movie in the country making decent amounts every day. So, perhaps not a smash, but definitely performing better than expected/predicted by box office analysts. And yes, I know people would rather die than admit it, but I can guarantee most people here would have figured it would be out of the top 10 by now. It is nice for her to do better than expected rather than worse this year, ha ha. One small victory amongst a rough year otherwise. yeah it's doing better than expected, but it'll still have some trouble making that budget back. That is most likely true-we will have to see what it does overseas. Even if it doesn't though it was the right step for Christina to start crawling back from Bionic. I don't really see any press or articles saying BURLESQUE IS A FLOP AND WON'T MAKE BACK ITS BUDGET!!! Its more "wow this isn't totally flopping like everyone expected and audiences are seeming to like it!" For Christina, she really needs any positive press right now and thankfully Burlesque isn't being labeled (by the press at least) as another huge monster bomb or flop for her.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 8, 2010 17:33:21 GMT -5
LPLove- before the movie opened, projections were that the movie would do $20 million-$25 million in its first five days- so, how would it have ended its run with $30 million? :) There was just one new wide release last week, so it's not like it had much in the way of competition to push it down. This coming weekend we see release of "Chronicles of Narnia" and "The Tourist"- so, another 45%-50% drop (or more) should occur, especially if some theaters drop it. Like said, I think "mild" is the best way to describer its box office performance. And, of course, the critical reception has not been too great (34% "Fresh" at Rotten Tomatoes). Even though the bad reviews were not as widespread as some may have thought they would be, it's still looking like a favorite to rack up some Razzie nominations. As for Aguilera, she's in a slump- but, I don't think the media would make much of it, anyhow, as she's never been of as much interest to the media as, say, a Britney Spears (just using her as an example, as she's a contemporary and the biggest female pop star of the last decade and change).
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 8, 2010 19:08:46 GMT -5
Critics do not like it, no, but it's scored very well on all audience surveys.
DVD sales and overseas receipts should be enough to make back its budget. I'm just glad it wasn't a Glitter-level failure.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Dec 8, 2010 23:18:57 GMT -5
^Exactly. And for the record, I think it's too generous to use "moderately successful" to describe a movie playing in 3,000+ theaters, that had loads of promotion and is on target for a finish of ~$37 million in the USA and Canada. And, most box office analysts would tend to agree. You've posted the same thing in three different Pulse forums. Why do you care so much?
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