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Post by Rodze on Mar 23, 2011 19:47:33 GMT -5
you guys are a JOKE that's not even funny. If by you guys you mean Americans and their obsession with deifying (euphemism) horribly flawed celebrities, indeed.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Mar 23, 2011 19:57:50 GMT -5
He said its for the naysayers, doubters and people who want him to fail. That sums up a lot of people here Well pardon us for not liking wife beaters who come inches away from killing someone. And getting off with measly probation which obviously did not help since he's breaking windows still. Breaking windows >>> breaking faces I'm not fan of Chris's actions or character, but your fave is no saint either, bro. js
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Post by slicknickshady on Mar 23, 2011 20:16:57 GMT -5
Well pardon us for not liking wife beaters who come inches away from killing someone. And getting off with measly probation which obviously did not help since he's breaking windows still. Breaking windows >>> breaking faces I'm not fan of Chris's actions or character, but your fave is no saint either, bro. js If you really don't think theres a difference between rapping about smacking a girl and actually smacking a girl. One is just words on a mic. The other is a felony. Big difference. I never claimed Eminem is a saint. He doesnt claim to be one either. He pistol whipped a dude and got six years of probation shorty after he sold 1.74 Million copies in a week. But were talking about beating a women inches away from death here. Look if say Chris Brown pistol whipped a guy i wouldn't really give it a second thought. It would make me a hypocrite. But Male on Female violence i am strongly against. Look I don't really care that he will have the #1 album. I just am appalled some people feel sorry for him and think he has had it so rough. He beat a female. Like i care if he says this album is for his haters or naysayers? He deserved those. It's not like he was crawling through garbage on the street. If a lot of his female fans don't care that he almost killed a female then i feel sorry for those female fans of his. Those are the females who will if beaten will continue to take getting beaten and it will end up killing them. Must be the water here in Michigan. :)
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Post by musik... on Mar 23, 2011 20:20:22 GMT -5
Taking the Charlie Sheen route really seems to work.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Mar 23, 2011 20:21:09 GMT -5
Breaking windows >>> breaking faces I'm not fan of Chris's actions or character, but your fave is no saint either, bro. js If you really don't think theres a difference between rapping about smacking a girl and actually smacking a girl. One is just words on a mic. The other is a felony. Big difference. I never claimed Eminem is a saint. He doesnt claim to be one either. He pistol whipped a dude and got six years of probation shorty after he sold 1.74 Million copies in a week. But were talking about beating a women inches away from death here. Look if say Chris Brown pistol whipped a guy i wouldn't really give it a second thought. It would make me a hypocrite. But Male on Female violence i am strongly against. Look I don't really care that he will have the #1 album. I just am appalled some people feel sorry for him and think he has had it so rough. He beat a female. Like i care if he says this album is for his haters or naysayers? He deserved those. It's not like he was crawling through garbage on the street. If a lot of his female fans don't care that he almost killed a female then i feel sorry for those female fans of his. Those are the females who will if beaten will continue to take getting beaten and it will end up killing them. +1 to the bolded. I'm not gonna address the Eminem portion.
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Post by pnobelysk on Mar 23, 2011 20:51:02 GMT -5
great numbers for jen
im very curious to see how chris holds in coming weeks
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Mar 23, 2011 21:43:13 GMT -5
Breaking windows >>> breaking faces I'm not fan of Chris's actions or character, but your fave is no saint either, bro. js If you really don't think theres a difference between rapping about smacking a girl and actually smacking a girl. One is just words on a mic. The other is a felony. Big difference. I never claimed Eminem is a saint. He doesnt claim to be one either. He pistol whipped a dude and got six years of probation shorty after he sold 1.74 Million copies in a week. But were talking about beating a women inches away from death here. Look if say Chris Brown pistol whipped a guy i wouldn't really give it a second thought. It would make me a hypocrite. But Male on Female violence i am strongly against. Look I don't really care that he will have the #1 album. I just am appalled some people feel sorry for him and think he has had it so rough. He beat a female. Like i care if he says this album is for his haters or naysayers? He deserved those. It's not like he was crawling through garbage on the street. If a lot of his female fans don't care that he almost killed a female then i feel sorry for those female fans of his. Those are the females who will if beaten will continue to take getting beaten and it will end up killing them. Must be the water here in Michigan. :) I agree with u on most things but you cant start attacking people for buying the album. Its a brilliant album and i see nothing wrong with people recognizing the music.
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Post by WotUNeed on Mar 23, 2011 21:56:24 GMT -5
Dear people who forgot this forum is General Music News:
I'd like to remind you that this forum is General Music News. Discussions of things not related to music (e.g., your opinion of the character of an artist) is not forbidden, but it is encouraged that you at least try to make music somehow important to your argument. If all you want to do is gossip about an artist and have nothing to say about his or her music, you might want to consider taking that to one of the off-topic fora.
Anybody who posted before this need not worry about official Pulse action being taken; anyone who continues to draw a General Music News topic away from primarily discussing music may not be as lucky. So, consider this a friendly reminder that, in this forum, we are focused on the music.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Mar 24, 2011 0:40:28 GMT -5
Wow, I must say I'm pretty surprised at Brown's projection! I'm sure this bodes quite well for Britney. She should easily do 300K at the very least.
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Post by microcuts on Mar 24, 2011 3:24:03 GMT -5
If you really don't think theres a difference between rapping about smacking a girl and actually smacking a girl. One is just words on a mic. The other is a felony. Big difference. I never claimed Eminem is a saint. He doesnt claim to be one either. He pistol whipped a dude and got six years of probation shorty after he sold 1.74 Million copies in a week. But were talking about beating a women inches away from death here. Look if say Chris Brown pistol whipped a guy i wouldn't really give it a second thought. It would make me a hypocrite. But Male on Female violence i am strongly against. Look I don't really care that he will have the #1 album. I just am appalled some people feel sorry for him and think he has had it so rough. He beat a female. Like i care if he says this album is for his haters or naysayers? He deserved those. It's not like he was crawling through garbage on the street. If a lot of his female fans don't care that he almost killed a female then i feel sorry for those female fans of his. Those are the females who will if beaten will continue to take getting beaten and it will end up killing them. Must be the water here in Michigan. :) I agree with u on most things but you cant start attacking people for buying the album. Its a brilliant album and i see nothing wrong with people recognizing the music. I think in the context of this discussion it's worth noting that serial killer mastermind Charles Manson tried his hand at being a musician, as well. And Guns N' Roses got tons of shit for just covering one of his songs on an album some 20 years ago. Not that I'm saying Chris Brown's actions come anywhere close to those of a serial killer, mind you. But it is interesting how celebrities - and almost specifically male ones at that - with extreme personalities get put up on some kind of pedestal. Guess it's just the society we live in.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 24, 2011 3:54:33 GMT -5
It's obvious that those who dislike Brown because of his recent behaviour were never going to buy his album anyway.
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Post by singingsparrow on Mar 24, 2011 17:57:08 GMT -5
It's obvious that those who dislike Brown because of his recent behaviour were never going to buy his album anyway. I couldn't care less about his behavior with respect to influencing my opinion of his music. That said, I'm not buying "F.A.M.E." either because I find it to be a mediocre record overall. To his credit, he tries tackling a broader range of sounds, but I just find the composition hollow and lacking any personal and/or emotional depth. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by livelikedying111 on Mar 24, 2011 19:03:16 GMT -5
It's obvious that those who dislike Brown because of his recent behaviour were never going to buy his album anyway. I couldn't care less about his behavior with respect to influencing my opinion of his music. That said, I'm not buying "F.A.M.E." either because I find it to be a mediocre record overall. To his credit, he tries tackling a broader range of sounds, but I just find the composition hollow and lacking any personal and/or emotional depth. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus I gotta agree. I personally think he's dangerous to society, but if he's got a good song I'll listen to it. Look At Me Now is hot, but I'm really not feeling the album. Not at all. Neither of his ealier albums, I don't like his style aside of singles he releases...
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Mar 24, 2011 19:38:06 GMT -5
The top of next week's chart will be dominated by Sony Music with as many as seven titles in the Top 10. Chris Brown will lead the way with debuts by Jennifer Hudson, The Strokes and Kirk Franklin also on tap. Adele, this week's chart topper, could possibly remain in the Top 5. However, the spoiler to an all-Sony Top 5 could come from Universal Music as they are slated to release a compilation album tomorrow (3/25) to benefit the earthquake- and tsunami-ravaged Japan. The album will be digital only, at least for now, and will feature dozens of tracks from all the major music groups. Rihanna, Justin Bieber and possibly Lady GaGa have all contributed tracks. Where this will land on the chart won't be known until Monday morning. Overall, eight of the Top 15 may be new entries. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend:
*Chris Brown (Jive/JLG) 270-280k *Jennifer Hudson (Arista/RMG) 160-170k *The Strokes (RCA/RMG) 90-95k Adele (XL/Columbia) 85-90k *Kirk Franklin (Gospocentric/JLG) 85-90k *Panic at the Disco (Decaydance/FBR/Atlantic) 50-55k Mumford & Sons (Glassnote) 35-40k *Bobby V (Capitol/EMI) 35-40k P!nk (LaFace/JLG) 28-32k Lupe Fiasco (Atlantic) 25-28k Marsha Ambrosius (J/RMG) 25-28k Now 37 (Capitol/EMI) 25-28k *Yellowcard (Hopeless) 25-28k *Green Day (Reprise) 25-28k Glee Cast Vol. 5 (Columbia) 24-27k Justin Bieber Never Say Never (Island/IDJ) 24-27k Rise Against (Geffen) 24-27k Rihanna (Def Jam/IDJ) 24-27k
*Debuts (3/24p)
yesssssss breezy
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Post by singingsparrow on Mar 24, 2011 19:44:31 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about his behavior with respect to influencing my opinion of his music. That said, I'm not buying "F.A.M.E." either because I find it to be a mediocre record overall. To his credit, he tries tackling a broader range of sounds, but I just find the composition hollow and lacking any personal and/or emotional depth. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus I gotta agree. I personally think he's dangerous to society, but if he's got a good song I'll listen to it. Look At Me Now is hot, but I'm really not feeling the album. Not at all. Neither of his ealier albums, I don't like his style aside of singles he releases... I'm trying to keep an open mind in general and making a commitment to observing, rather than judging, any given individual..........and juxtaposing conscious and unconscious actions and impulses from the broader individual...........and it is for that reason why I generally don't bother participating in threads in the News and Lounge sections anymore. If anything, one can be the most callous, arrogant, malicious face to many....... and also be capable of producing a most capable, compelling, even classic artistic effort. Which can be, in itself, crucially important in that, say that troubled spirit reached deep within one's self and recorded an album of songs expressing, channeling, and perhaps re-evaluating and reflecting on those callous, arrogant, malicious impulses..............could prove to be important from an artistic standpoint in that, like audio archaeologists, we can then try to find clues and indicators to WHAT prompts and/or motivates others to live so unconsciously, or WHY some people can be so incorrigible. So, I make a point, when reviewing music, to remind myself to separate the individual's personal life from the artistic output laid before me. And make no mistake that, when it comes to reviewing artistic output...........................I find it unequivocally fair game to be more nit-picky and direct when considering components like execution, composition, style, resonance and relevance, as well as the overall arc of the material when sized up to other efforts. * And with that in mind, I just don't find "F.A.M.E." anything to boast about. The title implies quite a striking statement for sure, but the songs just don't add up to the album's own title. It's just, overall, a medley of throwaway cuts boasting about casual sex and running it in the club, with a pinch of schmaltzy, more starry-eyed flavor in a few ballads just to remind listeners he has a softer side to his artistry too. This is just commercial cruise-control. Boilerplate intended for short-term instant gratification. Which is a shame, because considering...............for instance..............all the community service Brown has been completing as of late to complete his sentence requirements............and the reported praises he's been consistently receiving with regards to his community service............he could write a number of worthy songs reflecting on his personal experiences fulfilling community functions and his connections amidst it all, for one. There's nothing remotely intimate about this record. Heck, he doesn't even emit much breath haranguing about and/or mocking his detractors like he did on "Graffiti". There's very little substance here that promises staying power beyond a three-month time-span at best. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by jamrock16 on Mar 24, 2011 19:58:16 GMT -5
This conversation reminds me of a random thought I once had, would people be able to separate music from the person if say, someone like Hitler had recorded an album. To me I definitely have some bias when listening to certain artists. Nothing overwhelming though, b/c obviously due to PR and all, it's best for most artists to have a squeaky clean image. In Chris Brown's case, I guess I'm able to separate the music from everything else but I could easily see how some people might not be able to.
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Post by Mike on Mar 24, 2011 20:03:53 GMT -5
Wow @ Adele barely dropping 10K. Amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 20:23:40 GMT -5
Yes at Adelle!! Marsha is holding up well too! No Avril in sight :s
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Post by kt1990 on Mar 24, 2011 20:32:18 GMT -5
Damn, Marsha is holding up pretty well. Could she go Gold?
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Post by mel46 on Mar 24, 2011 20:51:35 GMT -5
The top of next week's chart will be dominated by Sony Music with as many as seven titles in the Top 10. Chris Brown will lead the way with debuts by Jennifer Hudson, The Strokes and Kirk Franklin also on tap. Adele, this week's chart topper, could possibly remain in the Top 5. However, the spoiler to an all-Sony Top 5 could come from Universal Music as they are slated to release a compilation album tomorrow (3/25) to benefit the earthquake- and tsunami-ravaged Japan. The album will be digital only, at least for now, and will feature dozens of tracks from all the major music groups. Rihanna, Justin Bieber and possibly Lady GaGa have all contributed tracks. Where this will land on the chart won't be known until Monday morning. Overall, eight of the Top 15 may be new entries. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend: *Chris Brown (Jive/JLG) 270-280k *Jennifer Hudson (Arista/RMG) 160-170k *The Strokes (RCA/RMG) 90-95k Adele (XL/Columbia) 85-90k *Kirk Franklin (Gospocentric/JLG) 85-90k *Panic at the Disco (Decaydance/FBR/Atlantic) 50-55k Mumford & Sons (Glassnote) 35-40k *Bobby V (Capitol/EMI) 35-40k P!nk (LaFace/JLG) 28-32k Lupe Fiasco (Atlantic) 25-28k Marsha Ambrosius (J/RMG) 25-28k Now 37 (Capitol/EMI) 25-28k *Yellowcard (Hopeless) 25-28k *Green Day (Reprise) 25-28k Glee Cast Vol. 5 (Columbia) 24-27k Justin Bieber Never Say Never (Island/IDJ) 24-27k Rise Against (Geffen) 24-27k Rihanna (Def Jam/IDJ) 24-27k *Debuts (3/24p) yesssssss breezy YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS CHRIS
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Post by PDC1987 on Mar 24, 2011 21:00:16 GMT -5
Well pardon us for not liking wife beaters who come inches away from killing someone. And getting off with measly probation which obviously did not help since he's breaking windows still. Pardon him for trying to move on with his life how dare he think he can move on? who does he think he is? how DARE him think its ok to smile now and live his life HOW DARE HE! *End sarcasm* you guys are a JOKE that's not even funny. He hasn't moved on with anything. His little stunt on GMA wasn't a slip, it's quite simply how he is. He's a petulant and violent (terrible combination) little sh*t, full stop. When you buy his album you're putting money in his pocket, some people don't want to financially support a person like Chris Brown, and that's their choice.
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Post by mel46 on Mar 24, 2011 21:04:53 GMT -5
Pardon him for trying to move on with his life how dare he think he can move on? who does he think he is? how DARE him think its ok to smile now and live his life HOW DARE HE! *End sarcasm* you guys are a JOKE that's not even funny. He hasn't moved on with anything. His little stunt on GMA wasn't a slip, it's quite simply how he is. He's a petulant and violent (terrible combination) little sh*t, full stop. When you buy his album you're putting money in his pocket, some people don't want to financially support a person like Chris Brown, and that's their choice. No one said anyone was obligated to support him but we dont wanna hear the constant bitching!!! about how evil he is. ok we get it! you dont like him saying it over and over again repeatedly wont change our views
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Post by PDC1987 on Mar 24, 2011 21:09:54 GMT -5
He hasn't moved on with anything. His little stunt on GMA wasn't a slip, it's quite simply how he is. He's a petulant and violent (terrible combination) little sh*t, full stop. When you buy his album you're putting money in his pocket, some people don't want to financially support a person like Chris Brown, and that's their choice. No one said anyone was obligated to support him but we dont wanna hear the constant bitching!!! about how evil he is. ok we get it! you dont like him saying it over and over again repeatedly wont change our views ... and vice versa. lol
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Post by WotUNeed on Mar 24, 2011 21:19:40 GMT -5
This conversation reminds me of a random thought I once had, would people be able to separate music from the person if say, someone like Hitler had recorded an album. Godwin's Law; ever-reliable. Kidding aside, I would imagine people would be able to do so, in the same way that many agree Hitler was a highly skilled orator. People can acknowledge that he was a charismatic individual who excelled at that art without in any way supporting the man. To a lesser degree, the fact that Mein Kampf remains a commonly studied book also shows that people can recognize some sort of merit in Hitler's work, or at least the study of said work, without supporting the man himself. Honestly, I think it's common for people's enjoyment of a work of art to be influenced by their opinions of the artist(s) involved in its creation. As long as an individual recognizes this bias, he is capable of evaluating the work fairly. The key is being able to recognize that "I don't like this" is not the same thing as "This is not good work" and, by that same token, "I like this" is not equivalent to "This is good work." Taking that principle back to music, there are plenty of songs I enjoy whose flaws are numerous, just as there are songs about which I can find numerous praiseworthy factors and still would rather not hear.
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Mar 24, 2011 21:32:21 GMT -5
Pink increasing? She`s killing it.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Mar 24, 2011 21:33:23 GMT -5
Shaping up to be one of the biggest sales weeks of the year so far. :)
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Post by David on Mar 24, 2011 21:51:03 GMT -5
Go Pink! Get that increase and 600k!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 22:37:27 GMT -5
No one said anyone was obligated to support him but we dont wanna hear the constant bitching!!! about how evil he is. ok we get it! you dont like him saying it over and over again repeatedly wont change our views ... and vice versa. lol +1. Some like him, some don't. Simply put. Whining about the people that hate Chris Brown over and over again won't change anyone's views either. That said those are amazing sales and even though it isn't his best album imo (Exclusive and Chris Brown were better and more cohesive sets), there are a good amount of standouts. Not to mention the singles he's released so far (Deuces, No BS, Look At Me Now, Yeah 3x) were all strong releases and pretty much locked in is fanbase for a good frontloaded debut. He really worked for these sales. He did the Trey-strategy but took it up a notch dropping all those mixtapes and being featured in all those tracks and started building momentum months and months in advance for this. The question is will it hold up.
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Post by livelikedying111 on Mar 25, 2011 3:58:30 GMT -5
Finally some great longetivities!!! Why won't nicki's sales go up? Moment for life is blowing up at pop! I thought it would het her sales!
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Post by chopped89 on Mar 25, 2011 6:19:08 GMT -5
wow @ Rihanna!
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