Agent YoncΓ©
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Post by Agent YoncΓ© on Mar 3, 2014 12:56:52 GMT -5
The only logical reason I can think of for them to continue along w/this era is if they're re-releasing this album right after 'G.U.Y' peaks (if it's true this will be the next single). It doesn't make any sense to further push this album that's been dead for some months now, despite the amount of potential hits/impactful songs she still has. I hope whatever they have cooked up will put her back onto the success train.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 3, 2014 13:06:04 GMT -5
What they really need to do is sell the album at a reasonable price Ikr. It's overpriced.
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Post by when the pawn... on Mar 3, 2014 13:08:16 GMT -5
I don't see a re-launch working (unless, MAYBE, there is new music) and I think it will just hurt public perception further. If they released G.U.Y. when DWUW was free-falling from the top 10 on CHR, that might have worked. I think the GP has made it clear that they do not want ARTPOP.
Regardless, I'm excited for that video.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 3, 2014 13:28:16 GMT -5
I don't see a re-launch working (unless, MAYBE, there is new music) and I think it will just hurt public perception further. If they released G.U.Y. when DWUW was free-falling from the top 10 on CHR, that might have worked. I think the GP has made it clear that they do not want ARTPOP. I didn't see the new about protesters holding signs like "WE DON'T NEED ARTPOP!!. {Spoiler}jk
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Post by 85la on Mar 3, 2014 15:22:36 GMT -5
I'm not exactly getting how people like GUY so much. The chorus especially sounds just awful to me.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Mar 3, 2014 15:32:18 GMT -5
I love GUY, but it does not seem at all like the correct song to relaunch an entire era at this moment even with a good video. I am still semi-hoping it is all a trick and they are going to release a brand new song.
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Post by Juanca on Mar 3, 2014 15:37:29 GMT -5
She posted that she's now back to work on #monsterstuff after the oscars.
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Post by tommymonster44 on Mar 3, 2014 17:06:39 GMT -5
I was doing some reading today and was reminded of Gaga. This was written by Hemmingway on Fitzgerald after his death. When i look back to TF/TFM and look at Gaga now, i feel the quote really applies to her.
"His talent was as natural as the pattern that was made by the dust on a butterflyβs wings. At one time he understood it no more than the butterfly did and he did not know when it was brushed or marred. Later he became conscious of his damaged wings and of their construction and he learned to think and could not fly any more because the love of flight was gone and he could only remember when it had been effortless."
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Post by josh on Mar 3, 2014 17:17:42 GMT -5
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Post by Rocky on Mar 3, 2014 17:30:39 GMT -5
How cool.
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 3, 2014 17:36:07 GMT -5
G.U.Y, really? Such a lifeless song to re-launch the album with. I think "Gypsy" could work quite well. She could do a combo of stripped down/full production performances. Plus it has a nice spring/summer sound to it.
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Post by kmbgs on Mar 3, 2014 17:45:40 GMT -5
Yeah GUY is nice but I'm kind of over it. It doesn't sound like a mega smash that could resurrect an entire era.
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Post by jazzyskye10Β² on Mar 3, 2014 17:52:31 GMT -5
Gaga looked fantastic last night. As far as ARTPOP is concerned, I still enjoy it. I do not think that G.U.Y. is a good choice to try and resurrect the era. In fact I feel that the window of opportunity has been closed for the most part. As a fan I would love for songs like MANiCURE and ARTPOP to be given the proper single treatment, but again it may be too late in general.
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Post by carriefan15 on Mar 4, 2014 3:52:21 GMT -5
so single #3 has been...Gypsy then Venus then Gypsy then Dope then Artpop and now G.U.Y. lol I think MANiCURE was rumored for about half of a day too.
Let's just make it Sexxx Dreams!!!
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Post by Ivy Leegueβ’ on Mar 4, 2014 7:12:33 GMT -5
I learned to tolerate GUY but it really doesn't do anything for me. Manicure has the energy. Gypsy has the straightforward lyrics, driving beat, and emotion...oh, and it's catchy, with multiple hooks. I'm not really sure why people are pushing for a song with the chorus "I wanna be your G U Y...the girl underneath you" and a turgid, plodding beat, but...everyone is different. Still love the album, overall...and MJH has even grown on me. My favorites are still Dope, Applause, DWUW, Manicure, and Gypsy. They are up there with my all-time favorite Gaga songs, actually.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Mar 4, 2014 9:26:36 GMT -5
I think that if Gaga pushed this with everything she got, GUY could do well (hopefully). But I admit I wish it was Gypsy or MANiCURE getting the single treatment instead. I feel like they would do better than GUY, no matter how much I like GUY.
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Post by no apologist on Mar 4, 2014 10:38:49 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Gaga's...I'm a general listener... her problem is no catchy songs. her songs this era do not have that hit factor. Like i said, I'm not a fan but The Fame Monster EP was my shit. IMO, she tries to be too artistic when all people want from her is a good song, look at Katy Perry for reference.
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Post by bat1990 on Mar 4, 2014 11:17:38 GMT -5
Aura is still the most catchy and instant to me.
Aura >>>>> Do What U Want/Sexxx Dreams >>>> Applause >>>>>>>>>>>> Venus/GUY >>>>>>>>>>> rest of album >>>>>>>>>> Dope >>>>>> Jewels n Drugs
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Post by wjr15 on Mar 4, 2014 12:50:57 GMT -5
Gaga needs a good catchy, mainstream single like "Venus" for the GP to regain interest.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 4, 2014 13:06:30 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Gaga's...I'm a general listener... her problem is no catchy songs. her songs this era do not have that hit factor. Like i said, I'm not a fan but The Fame Monster EP was my s**t. IMO, she tries to be too artistic when all people want from her is a good song, look at Katy Perry for reference. Not even. Katy makes great pop songs. I wouldn't want anything else from her. Gaga makes pop experiences. I expect nothing less.
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Post by smokey on Mar 4, 2014 16:27:07 GMT -5
I think continuing with this album is a mistake. She should start fresh. The general public is so not here for Artpop--it's #61 on Spotify, a spot below fucking Recovery by Eminem. For reference, Pure Heroin, Prism and Bangerz are 2, 4 and 8. Even Teenage Dream, 4 and Unapologetic are way ahead of Artpop. Something about this album is not connecting with people outside her fanbase. As much as I love G.U.Y., radio is moving in the opposite direction right now. If this flops, it underscores the idea that Gaga's "done." She needs to take a moment, find a new sound and get back in the studio.
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Post by Juanca on Mar 4, 2014 17:20:20 GMT -5
I remain team Gipsy ! Edge of glory put the BTW era back on track, connected with the audience thanks to its simplicity, vocal delivery, emotion. Gipsy has all those elements. And the piano version was sublime (maybe that could be an alternate version to be released in iTunes). That seems to be not what will be done though... In any case I just hope Gaga surrounds with smart people and all work together for this era revival.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 4, 2014 17:40:25 GMT -5
Just because the video foe the second single wasn't released doesn't mean the next single indicates a relaunch of the album. (if it were a brand-new track, that would be one thing.) She promoted the second single with multiple performances, and it's about to leave the Hot 100 after 18 weeks on, so it's just time for the next single. Plus, she's set to kick off the tour in May, so preparation and such will take up time, too.
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Post by die Lotterie on Mar 4, 2014 18:05:53 GMT -5
Just because the video foe the second single wasn't released doesn't mean the next single indicates a relaunch of the album. (if it were a brand-new track, that would be one thing.) She promoted the second single with multiple performances, and it's about to leave the Hot 100 after 18 weeks on, so it's just time for the next single. Plus, she's set to kick off the tour in May, so preparation and such will take up time, too. Yeah, it kind of does indicate such. The culmination of not having a music video since August, being out of the spotlight for the better part of the new year, the problems with her label/team, and the fact that the third single was due a long time ago pretty much signals a relaunch, especially by Lady Gaga standards. Regardless of your repetition concerning her performances, we are all aware she promoted DWUW months ago.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 4, 2014 18:20:52 GMT -5
That's your take on it, which is cool, and then there are others.
Repetition? You mean like stating and complaining how the DWUW video wasn't released? Gotcha. ;)
She has to plan and prep for a tour, so what does one expect her to have been doing the last couple of months? And she did perform recently on a hit program- granted, it wasn't a single, but she's not hibernating.
Rather than a relaunch, it's more of a continuation. A relaunch would be more fitting if there were new tracks tacked onto a reissue. Who knows- maybe that will happen, too.
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Post by no apologist on Mar 4, 2014 18:48:14 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Gaga's...I'm a general listener... her problem is no catchy songs. her songs this era do not have that hit factor. Like i said, I'm not a fan but The Fame Monster EP was my s**t. IMO, she tries to be too artistic when all people want from her is a good song, look at Katy Perry for reference. Not even. Katy makes great pop songs. I wouldn't want anything else from her. Gaga makes pop experiences. I expect nothing less. Who cares what you expect? People nowadays do not care about themed albums, they do not care about your concepts or the meaning behind each song. They just want good music. That's her problem along with Christina Aguilera's. They go into the studios for years trying to record these artistic albums and people don't want them. You've got to be a hardcore stan if you cannot see that her music is void of commercial appeal. Even when she was giving up all of her theatrics in the past, her music was catchy and spoke for itself without a visual. And THAT is why Katy is doing so well - she gets straight to the meat and the potatoes f**k an entree.
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Post by die Lotterie on Mar 4, 2014 18:51:35 GMT -5
That's your take on it, which is cool, and then there are others. Yes, I understand how a message board works. People share their opinions and understandings on topics⦠Repetition? You mean like stating and complaining how the DWUW video wasn't released? Gotcha. ;) Yes, repetition, as in one poster posting the same thing over and over, not multiple posters asking the same question. She has to plan and prep for a tour, so what does one expect her to have been doing the last couple of months? And she did perform recently on a hit program- granted, it wasn't a single, but she's not hibernating. The same thing that she's done every other era/what most artists of her caliber do. Follow up singles accordingly, film music videos, etc. We all know she has a tour, but DWUW was released in October, and not soon after announced as a single. Tour preparation isn't a very good excuse, lol. I know she performed on Fallon as well, that's why I used the term "for the better part of the new year." I'm sure there's a million reasons why this era has been handled poorly, but to act like everything is normal is a bit odd. I love ARTPOP, and can't wait for everything to get back on track.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 4, 2014 20:39:22 GMT -5
Actually, the same posters have commented on the lack of the video release multiple times, as well as how things haven't been handled properly, but that's beside the point. I've grown accustomed to being the go-to to point out repetitions, but I don't care to do so with others.
Say as you will, as long as you're not hurting or being mean to anyone, is my stance. :) Life is too short to concern yourself and get worked up over such trivial matters.
I'm glad you love and enjoy ARTPop- that's the power of music.
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Post by raprulestheworld on Mar 4, 2014 21:01:21 GMT -5
Wasn't there a pic of her leaving a recording studio recently? Maybe there will be an EP or reissue before the tour begins.
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Post by Keelzit on Mar 4, 2014 22:07:31 GMT -5
Since when is releasing a 3rd single/2nd video even after an 'absence' from media a relaunch? Unless the album is getting re-released they're just following the standard album campaign.
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