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Post by popstop on Oct 4, 2013 13:09:45 GMT -5
I think two of the Hanson guys were younger than 16; the oldest was 16 - #1 for Mmmbop
Peggy March - I Will Follow Him is the youngest girl
Edit: found 2 more
Brenda Lee was 15 - I'm Sorry
Leslie Gore was 16 - It's My Party
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Post by velaxti on Oct 4, 2013 17:59:14 GMT -5
It wasn't just I Love It that got 21 weeks on the chart (even though it was outside the top 50). Other songs like Bugatti and Harlem Shake did too I think. I'm sure there's more too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 18:02:03 GMT -5
Paul Anka was 16 when "Diana" which he also wrote, went to #1 in 1957.
Brian Hyland was still only 16 when he went to #1 with "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini" in 1960.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 18:04:04 GMT -5
It wasn't just I Love It that got 21 weeks on the chart (even though it was outside the top 50). Other songs like Bugatti and Harlem Shake did too I think. I'm sure there's more too. Don't songs that gain in chart points have to stay on the chart even if they fall below 50? That could explain it. |
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Post by josh on Oct 4, 2013 18:11:11 GMT -5
It wasn't just I Love It that got 21 weeks on the chart (even though it was outside the top 50). Other songs like Bugatti and Harlem Shake did too I think. I'm sure there's more too. Nope, both were just 20 by my count. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Oct 4, 2013 20:30:51 GMT -5
It wasn't just I Love It that got 21 weeks on the chart (even though it was outside the top 50). Other songs like Bugatti and Harlem Shake did too I think. I'm sure there's more too. Don't songs that gain in chart points have to stay on the chart even if they fall below 50? That could explain it. No that's not the rule. Once the song falls below 50, it is removed. So even if it is 51 with a bullet in 21st week gone. The rule used to be that the song had to be above 50 for the rule to apply. If a song was never reached 50 with 20 weeks and was still climbing or being promoted it could continue. However, that changed - probably with the "Whitney" rule. (There used to be a 20 week waiting period or something ridiculous before a song could bounce back.) Confusing. Yep. This way is so much easier. |
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Post by WotUNeed on Oct 4, 2013 20:41:55 GMT -5
No that's not the rule. Once the song falls below 50, it is removed. So even if it is 51 with a bullet in 21st week gone. While Billboard has removed some songs that fit your description, that's not actually the way they have it written. If you look at the Recurrent Rules section of their charts legend, all of their descriptions specifically refer to removing "descending songs", so a song that is still gaining / rising up the chart should not meet the recurrency rule as written. |
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Post by rfucom on Oct 4, 2013 23:03:50 GMT -5
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Post by Duca on Oct 5, 2013 7:13:45 GMT -5
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2. LORDE – Royals: 168.807 (+3.913) ▲
3. JAY Z – Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 165.879 (-1.087) ▼
4. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 162.071 (-2.722)
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6. AVICII – Wake Me Up: 150.796 (+2.258)
7. CAPITAL CITIES – Safe And Sound: 133.158 (-1.610)
8. LANA DEL REY – Summertime Sadness: 125.425 (-0.146)
9. LADY GAGA – Applause: 105.079 (+0.992)
10. MAROON 5 – Love Somebody: 79.905 (-1.298)
11. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 77.765 (-0.683)
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PARAMORE – Still Into You: 60.844 (+1.691)
LUKE BRYAN – That’s My Kind Of Night: 60.631 (+0.089)
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PINK – True Love f/Lily Allen: 48.862 (+0.598)
IMAGINE DRAGONS – Demons: 42.711 (+0.595)
EMINEM – Berzerk: 39.665 (+0.156)
SELENA GOMEZ – Slow Down: 39.249 (+1.249)
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JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – TKO: 29.122 (+1.326)
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Post by Daniel Collins on Oct 5, 2013 9:44:01 GMT -5
It wasn't just I Love It that got 21 weeks on the chart (even though it was outside the top 50). Other songs like Bugatti and Harlem Shake did too I think. I'm sure there's more too. Tapout as well |
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Post by AngelsForever on Oct 5, 2013 9:54:35 GMT -5
8. LANA DEL REY – Summertime Sadness: 125.425 (-0.146) It's time for Young & Beautiful.  |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Oct 5, 2013 10:04:37 GMT -5
PINK – True Love f/Lily Allen: 48.862 (+0.598)
BRITNEY SPEARS – Work Bitch: 33.107 (+0.186)
As much as I love P!nk, it's been awhile since we've had a song rise up based on "replacing" lost airplay from previous hit. I've hated TL from the beginning - just thought it was weak. After seeing the test scores, I'm still amazed this is gaining. It's even more bizarre to see it trumping Brit. I'd rather the two swapped places.
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Post by velaxti on Oct 5, 2013 10:09:33 GMT -5
It wasn't just I Love It that got 21 weeks on the chart (even though it was outside the top 50). Other songs like Bugatti and Harlem Shake did too I think. I'm sure there's more too. Tapout as well So: Tapout I Love It Harlem Shake Bugatti I'm sure there's others. Why do they do this though? It's too many just to be coincidence or a "mistake" imo. Or maybe do they correct these later, after we've already seen the chart? It wouldn't be the first time they edited the Hot 100 after releasing it this year. |
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Post by alake26 on Oct 5, 2013 10:57:15 GMT -5
45 +5 AUGUST ALSINA I Luv This Sh*t +3.212 ??? ???  |
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Post by chartfreak on Oct 5, 2013 11:25:53 GMT -5
When the Billboard article discusses the streaming total for a song, that includes youtube views and sources like Spotify, correct? They basically add the numbers together for views and listening?
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Post by josh on Oct 5, 2013 11:56:02 GMT -5
So: Tapout I Love It Harlem Shake Bugatti I'm sure there's others. Why do they do this though? It's too many just to be coincidence or a "mistake" imo. Or maybe do they correct these later, after we've already seen the chart? It wouldn't be the first time they edited the Hot 100 after releasing it this year. I have chart runs for all 4 of those songs and "I Love It" is the only one with an extra week. The other 3 only have 20. I usually don't save the new week right away so they might have been updated shortly after being posted. |
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Post by 85la on Oct 5, 2013 13:24:01 GMT -5
No that's not the rule. Once the song falls below 50, it is removed. So even if it is 51 with a bullet in 21st week gone. While Billboard has removed some songs that fit your description, that's not actually the way they have it written. If you look at the Recurrent Rules section of their charts legend, all of their descriptions specifically refer to removing "descending songs", so a song that is still gaining / rising up the chart should not meet the recurrency rule as written. Yeah, I think you are correct. |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 5, 2013 14:29:39 GMT -5
This thread is a mess.. Tapout, Harlem Shake and Bugatti never got that 21st week as Josh pointed out.
For example Harlem Shake's final week, its 20th (#70), was on chart dated 13/07/13
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Post by dgarcia3377 on Oct 5, 2013 15:57:57 GMT -5
So: Tapout I Love It Harlem Shake Bugatti I'm sure there's others. Why do they do this though? It's too many just to be coincidence or a "mistake" imo. Or maybe do they correct these later, after we've already seen the chart? It wouldn't be the first time they edited the Hot 100 after releasing it this year. Are you talking about from this year only? |
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Post by surfy on Oct 5, 2013 16:09:25 GMT -5
There's a rule that if a song is below the Top 50 on it's 21st,22nd,ect. and it still has a lot of points, they will grant it a "longevity week", which is why I Love It got an extra week.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2013 16:20:24 GMT -5
There's a rule that if a song is below the Top 50 on it's 21st,22nd,ect. and it still has a lot of points, they will grant it a "longevity week", which is why I Love It got an extra week. I am confused by that. Songs that fall to #51 in week 21 or week 22 have fewer points than songs at #50 There are two reasons a song that falls out of the top 50 with 20+ weeks and still remains on the chart 1. A song is still gaining in at least one radio format 2. Billboard goofed and allowed the extra week because they didn't check for recurrents that is basically it |
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Post by badrobot on Oct 5, 2013 16:58:02 GMT -5
I still think they give week 21 for songs that are barely outside the top 50 just in case they slide back into the top 50 the next week so they don't have to have the song re enter.
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Post by The Upper Hand on Oct 5, 2013 17:09:03 GMT -5
So we have the following artists with number ones that are 16 and under: Lorde Tiffany Donny Osmond Michael Jackson Stevie Wonder Did I miss any? Carly Rae Jepsen ;) lol |
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Post by velaxti on Oct 5, 2013 23:25:38 GMT -5
Okay, I looked it up, and it DID happen. Bugatti and Harlem Shake charted for a 21st week, as did Alive by Krewella and We Still In This Bitch got a 22nd week. All 4 of these songs were outside the top 50. This was all in the same week as well. I couldn't find the thread for it on this forum, but I found it on a different website: acharts.us/us_singles_top_100/2013/28Maybe Billboard changed it later on, but hopefully you guys now know I wasn't making this up. I did mention when everybody was fussing over I Love It getting a 21st week that it happened earlier in the year. |
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Post by josh on Oct 5, 2013 23:38:29 GMT -5
Okay, I looked it up, and it DID happen. Bugatti and Harlem Shake charted for a 21st week, as did Alive by Krewella and We Still In This Bitch got a 22nd week. All 4 of these songs were outside the top 50. This was all in the same week as well. I couldn't find the thread for it on this forum, but I found it on a different website: acharts.us/us_singles_top_100/2013/28Maybe Billboard changed it later on, but hopefully you guys now know I wasn't making this up. I did mention when everybody was fussing over I Love It getting a 21st week that it happened earlier in the year. Probably the week Billboard made a huge error. The charts were changed a lot after they updated them. |
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Post by tekkenguy on Oct 5, 2013 23:48:22 GMT -5
Where do you see "The Fox" charting next week?
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Post by Daniel Collins on Oct 6, 2013 0:05:37 GMT -5
Okay, I looked it up, and it DID happen. Bugatti and Harlem Shake charted for a 21st week, as did Alive by Krewella and We Still In This Bitch got a 22nd week. All 4 of these songs were outside the top 50. This was all in the same week as well. I couldn't find the thread for it on this forum, but I found it on a different website: acharts.us/us_singles_top_100/2013/28Maybe Billboard changed it later on, but hopefully you guys now know I wasn't making this up. I did mention when everybody was fussing over I Love It getting a 21st week that it happened earlier in the year. Probably the week Billboard made a huge error. The charts were changed a lot after they updated them. acharts is the one that made the mistake. If you tried looking manually week for week , you'll only see 20 weeks for the songs you mentioned that has a 21st week. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Oct 6, 2013 1:38:21 GMT -5
Where do you see "The Fox" charting next week? 5-3 |
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Post by Kris on Oct 6, 2013 2:15:02 GMT -5
I bet Steve Irwin would of been able to tell us what sound a fox makes.
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Post by Rocky on Oct 6, 2013 7:03:51 GMT -5
1. KATY PERRY – Roar: 215.850 (- 0.116)
2. LORDE – Royals: 172.552 (+ 3.745)
3. JAY Z – Holy Grail f/Justin Timberlake: 166.160 (+ 0.281)
4. ROBIN THICKE – Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I: 160.087 (- 1.984)
5. DRAKE – Hold On We’re Going Home: 157.503 (+ 0.884)
6. AVICII – Wake Me Up: 153.661 (+ 2.865)
7. CAPITAL CITIES – Safe And Sound: 131.666 (- 1.492)
8. LANA DEL REY – Summertime Sadness: 125.334 (- 0.091)
9. LADY GAGA – Applause: 105.656 (+ 0.577)
10. MAROON 5 – Love Somebody: 78.690 (- 1.215)
11. JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – Mirrors: 77.887 (+ 0.162)
12. J. COLE – Crooked Smile f/TLC: 75.985 (+ 0.039)
13. IMAGINE DRAGONS – Radioactive: 74.075 (- 0.850) ▲
14. ZEDD – Clarity f/Foxes: 73.772 (- 1.323) ▼
15. MILEY CYRUS – Wrecking Ball: 71.296 (+ 2.450)
16. JASON ALDEAN – Night Train: 65.283 (- 0.182)
17. BILLY CURRINGTON – Hey Girl: 64.297 (+ 0.256)
18. TYLER FARR – Redneck Crazy: 63.829 (+ 0.478)
19. THOMAS RHETT – It Goes Like This: 62.420 (+ 0.210) ▲
20. PARAMORE – Still Into You: 61.737 (+ 0.893) ▲
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DAFT PUNK – Get Lucky: 61.350 (- 1.351)
LUKE BRYAN – That’s My Kind Of Night: 60.899 (+ 0.268)
TAYLOR SWIFT – Everything Has …f/Ed Sheeran: 57.383 (+ 0.981)
ROBIN THICKE – Give It 2 U f/Kendrick Lamar: 54.680 (+ 0.334)
BRUNO MARS – Gorilla: 53.131 (+ 0.674)
CHRIS BROWN – Love More f/Nicki Minaj: 52.111 (+ 0.539)
BLAKE SHELTON – Mine Would Be You: 50.867 (+ 0.394)
PINK – True Love f/Lily Allen: 49.611 (+ 0.749)
IMAGINE DRAGONS – Demons: 42.942 (+ 0.231)
AUGUST ALSINA – I Luv This Sh*t: 39.939 (+ 0.921)
EMINEM – Berzerk: 39.857 (+ 0.192)
SELENA GOMEZ – Slow Down: 40.121 (+ 0.872)
KEITH URBAN & MIRANDA LAMBERT – We Were Us: 35.167 (+ 0.937)
BRITNEY SPEARS – Work Bitch: 33.814 (+ 0.707)
PARMALEE – Carolina: 31.199 (+ 0.068)
ONEREPUBLIC – Counting Stars: 31.056 (+ 0.626)
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE – TKO: 30.406 (+ 1.284)
PASSENGER – Let Her Go: 26.695 (+ 0.494)
FUTURE – Honest: 24.673 (+ 0.357)
TEGAN & SARA – Closer: 22.174 (+ 0.518)
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS – White Walls f/ScHoolboy Q: 20.647 (+ 0.535)
ARIANA GRANDE – Right There f/Big Sean: 17.040 (+ 0.241)
BASTILLE – Pompeii: 11.297 (+ 0.048)
RIHANNA – What Now: 9.701 (+ 0.302)
MIKE WILL MADE-IT – 23 f/Miley Cyrus, Wiz Khalifa: 7.764
ELLIE GOULDING – Burn: 3.646
KILLERS – Shot At The Night: 2.658 (+ 0.033)
CIARA – Overdose: 0.275
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