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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 15:29:24 GMT -5
If there's a roleblocker, I would reveal your action since it could potentially get rid of a scum assuming this kill was blocked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 15:29:44 GMT -5
vote: Josh because this is the third time he's on record for trying to shut down speculation
no time to elaborate rn so ttyl
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Post by josh on Jul 3, 2014 16:07:00 GMT -5
Cunthia returns. :'(
Well in one of the recent games (idk if you followed them at all) people spent forever speculating about nothing and completely wasted a lot of time on nothing, so I was just trying to prevent that. But, like others have said, we don't have much to go off of at all, so it really isn't bad. Unless we do nothing but speculate for like 5 real life days, obviously then that's too much lol. But yes, I concede after what others have said that some speculation at this point is fine.
I feel like a delayed kill is possible, but I feel like a kill was probably prevented. However, it is Kunt's strange game, so who really knows lol. I wish we knew what Invincible's role meant.
If a kill was prevented, we know it wasn't a doctor due to the OP saying there are no doctors. Same with jailbreaker. So roleblocker would be a big possibility. I can't think of any other blocking roles off the top of my head that it could be.
I need to look through the thread some more to see if I can find anything suspicious.
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Post by popstop on Jul 3, 2014 16:57:40 GMT -5
Hmmm, Cynthia has more to elaborate than that?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 3, 2014 23:10:16 GMT -5
Is it possible that mafia could have not sent in a kill? I mean, is it a requirement for a non-bastard game or just an option? I have a PoS on Drag at the moment if no night kill is a possibility.
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Post by Zeebz on Jul 3, 2014 23:12:28 GMT -5
Is it possible that mafia could have not sent in a kill? I mean, is it a requirement for a non-bastard game or just an option? I have a PoS on Drag at the moment if no night kill is a possibility. No night kill is usually a possibility, but not sure. |
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Post by josh on Jul 3, 2014 23:18:13 GMT -5
Is it possible that mafia could have not sent in a kill? I mean, is it a requirement for a non-bastard game or just an option? I have a PoS on Drag at the moment if no night kill is a possibility. We've had people forget to send it in or miss the deadline before. Not sure if anyone's ever not sent in a kill on purpose, though. But yes, it's possible to have no kill (without a doctor/roleblocker/whatever being the cause). |
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Post by SuperLaLaLa~ on Jul 3, 2014 23:18:22 GMT -5
Look! A Vote Count!~
Day 2 begins.
Deadline has been set for 7/10/2014 23:59:59 EDT.
With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Lozzy: 1 (Drag)
Josh: 1 (Cynthia)
Not voting: lots of people Zebra, Codex, Lahey, Max, josh, popstop, Lozzy, Landmarx, Ginger Spice
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 3, 2014 23:28:07 GMT -5
So if we have a roleblocker in here, how much would him (or her) revealing their role help us?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 0:08:28 GMT -5
re: my elaborating - yeah, basically I just found it strange that Josh keeps shooting down speculation so quickly, really before it even leads anywhere. It mostly stands out because it's not like we've got that much else to talk about. Even looking at jback's lynch didn't give me much - I could easily side eye how quickly it came together but then I'm the one who actually started it, so that would be rather silly of me lol. I'm just amazed my hunch was so spot-on. I do understand that not all speculation is worth it in the long run but even just getting people's thoughts and reactions to things can possibly provide something useful later, so I don't think it hurts as long as we don't dwell on something long after the topic has reached a dead end, or get to the point that we're putting a power role in danger. Which leads to my next point: So if we have a roleblocker in here, how much would him (or her) revealing their role help us? If we do have one I think it's too early to reveal that because: 1) he* would be a prime target for night two 2) he may not be entirely certain the person he blocked was actually scum (purposeful no-kill/delayed kill/infect-the-majority win condition theories are all still possibilities) 3) even if he was certain the person he blocked was scum he can't call them out right away b/c the scum partners are still unknown and there's no guarantee he'll get it right two nights in a row (leading back to point #1) *saying he b/c I'm the only girl in the game and I'm not it I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with speculating we have one, but I don't care to get really into debating it b/c that could lead to speculating about who the roleblocker is, and the last thing we want is to help scum figure out who the power roles are. fwiw I did a mental run-through of every player in the game and I don't believe we have one, but I'm not going to dismiss the idea for certain. If there is in fact a roleblocker I think it would be better for that person to wait until Day 3, when we'll either have a night kill to examine or the roleblocker will have in fact blocked two people which will increase the chances of us finding a tie to the teammate(s) they have let. |
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Post by josh on Jul 4, 2014 0:08:46 GMT -5
That would basically give scum a power role to kill. I feel like it's stupid to roleclaim until we have a good idea on scum. Otherwise why say so, since it would be a random shot as to who to block? Oh wait, if there's a roleblocker and they actually prevented the kill, then yes ok that would make more sense to roleclaim lol. I get where you're coming from now.  |
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Post by josh on Jul 4, 2014 0:14:08 GMT -5
I still think it's best not to roleclaim, though. Like Cynthia said, no kill may have happened for a reason other than roleblock, so nothing is for sure. Plus it's best to use your power to try to convince people to vote for the people you've seen without roleclaiming, that way you can still use your power on futher nights.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 0:18:36 GMT -5
that final word should be left not let
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 3:16:31 GMT -5
If there's a roleblocker, I would reveal your action since it could potentially get rid of a scum assuming this kill was blocked. cause I don't like the way you're playing + this seems like a set up. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 4, 2014 10:30:47 GMT -5
I'm voting Drag too. I just realized that his point about whoever roll-blocker is should make themselves known came after I PoS'ed him about possibly being behind the reason there were no night kills. He didn't acknowledge that at all but brought out the roll-blocker idea which would, if my theory is correct about him being the mastermind behind 'no-kill' for night 1, serve as protection for him.
vote: drag
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 10:48:07 GMT -5
Vote: Drag cause I don't like the way you're playing + this seems like a set up. YASSSSS drag my gameplay to filth hunty!!!! I was just looking at it from a number's perspective, if the roleblocker blocked the kill wouldn't we want to know who that potential scum is? But whatever floats your boat I guess.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 10:52:57 GMT -5
I'm voting Drag too. I just realized that his point about whoever roll-blocker is should make themselves known came after I PoS'ed him about possibly being behind the reason there were no night kills. He didn't acknowledge that at all but brought out the roll-blocker idea which would, if my theory is correct about him being the mastermind behind 'no-kill' for night 1, serve as protection for him. vote: dragMaxie maxie, I'll comment on that know since I didn't really think it was relevant at the time. Like you mentioned in that post, the only reason I made that strategy last game was because of the risk of town arming themselves and taking one of us down. That is certainly not the case this game. Anyways, I'm going to put an FOSon you for now. I've noticed that whenever someone brings up a new target; I brought Codex on day 1 since he wasn't that active; you quickly followed my vote. In this case, you quickly followed Codex's vote on the basis of something that isn't even relevant to this game.  |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 4, 2014 10:53:36 GMT -5
Vote: Drag cause I don't like the way you're playing + this seems like a set up. YASSSSS drag my gameplay to filth hunty!!!!  |
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Post by josh on Jul 4, 2014 10:59:17 GMT -5
ok this is off topic but piece of shit-ted her? wow drag her for filth |
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Post by josh on Jul 4, 2014 11:01:37 GMT -5
In this case, you quickly followed Codex's vote on the basis of something that isn't even relevant to this game. How is Codex's vote not relevant to the game? ??? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 11:06:14 GMT -5
How is Codex's vote not relevant to the game? ??? max mentioned a point from a previous game about me not wanting to nightkill and it wasn't relevant to this game. |
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Post by josh on Jul 4, 2014 11:15:27 GMT -5
Oh, I thought you were talking about Codex's reasoning.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 4, 2014 14:21:18 GMT -5
Not relevant to this game but indicative of what I believe could be relevant to your style of gameplay.
Also, the suggestion that because I'm copying codex or whoever with my votes I feel is such a cop-out. This whole thing against 'bandwagoning' in general, to me, is such an easy and lazy method of targeting someone and I think can be counterproductive. While I don't doubt that some players do legitimately vote for people who already have a target on them to draw attention away from themselves, I'm also of the impression that people may avoid voting for someone out of fear of being accused of bandwagoning even if their reasoning is perfectly valid. My vote for codex in day 1 was purely random in the random phase. My vote for Drag right now was given with a reason. It may be weak but it's enough for me right now. You (drag) accusing me of following other people is lazy and further adds to the case growing against you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 20:45:30 GMT -5
I'm bored so... Vote: Drag
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 21:28:59 GMT -5
Look! Another Vote Count!~
Day 2 begins.
Deadline has been set for 7/10/2014 23:59:59 EDT.
With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Drag: 3 (Codex, Max, Drag)
Josh: 1 (Cynthia)
Not voting: Zebra, Lahey, josh, popstop, Lozzy, Landmarx, Ginger Spice
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 21:39:54 GMT -5
I'm bored so... Vote: DragAiight then. Vote: Drag |
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Post by josh on Jul 4, 2014 21:45:51 GMT -5
@drag27 are you really trying to commit suicide? ???
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 21:55:08 GMT -5
@drag27 are you really trying to commit suicide? ??? do what u want what u want with yo body tbqh. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 22:03:56 GMT -5
These are the notes I made to myself right after Day 1, now is a good time to revisit and rethink out loud:
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- i still feel pretty good about Ginger
- i feel ok about Drag so far, thought not quite as much as i do Ginger
- I can't remember who it was that said they felt Zebra's 'shock' over Invincible's death rang false. At the time i thought that was reaching to find something suspicious, but his hesitance to hammer jback when we were so close to the deadline is making me wonder if i was wrong. like, why would you get cold feet about hammering on day 1 when we've 1) already discussed that no-lynches are bad, especially early in the game, 2) we have less than two hours left and 3) three or four players have already said they won't be around to change their votes (i.e. no chance of a bandwagon forming around someone else)? when i was scum i didn't like the idea of hammering either, so that gives me pause.
- something about josh just isn't sitting right with me still.
- i wasn't crazy about some of the questions Max was asking earlier b/c they seemed purposely basic/intended to not really lead to any answers. however he was one of the more active players for day one. would scum put in that much effort? or rather, would max put in that much effort as a scum player.
- Codex and Landmarx give me just-another-inactive-townie vibes
- i keep forgetting Slizz/Lozzy is playing and I have no idea why
- no reads on Lahey or popstop
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Now that it is Day 2 my opinions are shifting a bit:
- While I'm still suspicious about josh, I'm not quite as suspicious as I was before
- The current Max vs. Drag battle almost certainly means they are not teammates, however I am undecided on whether I think either of them is scum or if it's just them WIFOM'ing on each other
- still side-eying Zebra
- now that I'm paying more attention and realize Lozzy has entered the building, I'm tentatively thinking town for him
- Lahey is starting to fall into the disengaged-townie boat with Landmarx and Codex
- leaning a bit more toward town for popstop
Overall not sure why I wrote any of this up b/c I'm still not entirely ready to commit to anything. Instinct is saying to either stick with josh or switch to Zebra, and to keep an eye on Drag vs. Max. So I'll just keep my vote where it is for now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 22:05:05 GMT -5
well great i type all that up only to be majorly confused by Drag's last post, lol
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