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Post by icefire9 on Feb 15, 2015 11:45:03 GMT -5
I enjoy Sugar a lot, but I'll admit that I'm a bit pressed that its smashing when Birthday didn't.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Feb 15, 2015 12:41:57 GMT -5
I enjoy Sugar a lot, but I'll admit that I'm a bit pressed that its smashing when Birthday didn't. because dark horse was still like number 4 when it was released. |
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Post by josh on Feb 15, 2015 13:04:03 GMT -5
omg can people stop with the same excuses.
people didn't like birthday. period. if they did then it would have sold well and had good callout scores and streaming (not talking about the video since the length decreased replayability, but other streaming like spotify).
animals was still huge on airplay when sugar was released yet sugar is still a big hit.
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Post by icefire9 on Feb 15, 2015 13:17:48 GMT -5
omg can people stop with the same excuses. people didn't like birthday. period. if they did then it would have sold well and had good callout scores and streaming (not talking about the video since the length decreased replayability, but other streaming like spotify). animals was still huge on airplay when sugar was released yet sugar is still a big hit. I know, I just find it weird how people didn't like Birthday, but like Sugar which is basically the same song. Do they just like Adam's falsetto better? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 13:33:12 GMT -5
omg can people stop with the same excuses. people didn't like birthday. period. if they did then it would have sold well and had good callout scores and streaming (not talking about the video since the length decreased replayability, but other streaming like spotify). animals was still huge on airplay when sugar was released yet sugar is still a big hit. I know, I just find it weird how people didn't like Birthday, but like Sugar which is basically the same song. Do they just like Adam's falsetto better? Exactly my thoughts lol. A bit like Shake It Off vs. Happy which both have a very similar-sounding beat. |
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Post by josh on Feb 15, 2015 13:42:35 GMT -5
omg can people stop with the same excuses. people didn't like birthday. period. if they did then it would have sold well and had good callout scores and streaming (not talking about the video since the length decreased replayability, but other streaming like spotify). animals was still huge on airplay when sugar was released yet sugar is still a big hit. I know, I just find it weird how people didn't like Birthday, but like Sugar which is basically the same song. Do they just like Adam's falsetto better? My comment wasn't directed at you.  But I am one of the people who likes "Sugar" but not "Birthday." Honestly, I don't hear many similarities, but then again I've avoided much of "Birthday" so maybe if I listened to them back to back I would hear the similarities? Regardless, I don't love "Sugar," I just think it's a decent song, so it's not like I love it and hate "Birthday." I'm just annoyed by the excuses that "Dark Horse" caused "Birthday" to flop, the video caused it to flop, etc. It's been a year, lol |
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Post by imbondz on Feb 15, 2015 14:13:05 GMT -5
I like Birthday a lot and the only thing I can think of as to why it didn't go top 10, is I think it's a relatable thing to the lyrics. Even tho the lyrics are good and make sense, your Birthday only comes around once/year. not that exciting to sing about treat me like it's my birthday today when it's not. maybe a part of the reason at least.
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Post by icefire9 on Feb 15, 2015 14:13:46 GMT -5
I know, I just find it weird how people didn't like Birthday, but like Sugar which is basically the same song. Do they just like Adam's falsetto better? My comment wasn't directed at you.  But I am one of the people who likes "Sugar" but not "Birthday." Honestly, I don't hear many similarities, but then again I've avoided much of "Birthday" so maybe if I listened to them back to back I would hear the similarities? Regardless, I don't love "Sugar," I just think it's a decent song, so it's not like I love it and hate "Birthday." I'm just annoyed by the excuses that "Dark Horse" caused "Birthday" to flop, the video caused it to flop, etc. It's been a year, lol Yeah, I never bought that Dark Horse was responsible for Unconditionally and Birthday's performance. While radio sometimes is slow to move on to the next single for some acts after a huge hit, radio was totally on board for both of Unconditionally and Birthday until callout scores came in. Its kind of hard to describe what makes a song sound similar to another, and admittedly a lot of it is subjective. This mashup takes advantage of their similarities pretty well, though. Some of it is the lyrics. They're both talking about sugar/sweetness when actually referring to sex. The instrumentals can be switched with each other and the songs will work, like in this mashup of Sugar with Birthday's instrumental. Adam and Katy both sing in a high pitched falsetto during much of the song. There are also some portions of the song that have the same tune and rhythm. "Sugar, yes please, won't you come and put it down on me." vs. "So make, a wish, give you something good to celebrate." & "I'm hurting, baby, I'm broken down I need your loving, loving I need it now" vs. "I heard you're feeling nothing's going right Why don't you let me stop by?" Heck, the videos even have similar concepts with Katy/Maroon 5 crashing different celebrations (though I think Maroon 5 pulled it off better). |
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Post by DJ General on Feb 15, 2015 15:42:17 GMT -5
Ughhh. Poor Ed.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Feb 15, 2015 16:42:05 GMT -5
Hey don't give up hope. At least even if he doesn't get it UF will most likely get 10 weeks |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 15, 2015 17:01:12 GMT -5
I like Birthday a lot and the only thing I can think of as to why it didn't go top 10, is I think it's a relatable thing to the lyrics. Even tho the lyrics are good and make sense, your Birthday only comes around once/year. not that exciting to sing about treat me like it's my birthday today when it's not. maybe a part of the reason at least. For many people, their birthday is the one day of year where they are the center of attention and everyone fawns all over them, so for Katy to sing 'I'll make it like your Birthday everyday," is perfectly relatable. If it had made the Top 10 no one would even question it. Had they waited a month and also released an single edit of the video, it would've made it, but they didn't and it was still a Top 20 hit. Still compared to Roar & DH, Birthday and the other singles pale - not even close. The Sugar video - made the song an instant Top 5 iTunes hit, which certainly paved the way for radio to add it even faster than normal. It would be great if Sugar hit #1, but I think sales/video points peaked far too early. Now if M5 performs it on TV, I could see a big boost. |
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Post by imbondz on Feb 15, 2015 17:07:52 GMT -5
I like Birthday a lot and the only thing I can think of as to why it didn't go top 10, is I think it's a relatable thing to the lyrics. Even tho the lyrics are good and make sense, your Birthday only comes around once/year. not that exciting to sing about treat me like it's my birthday today when it's not. maybe a part of the reason at least. For many people, their birthday is the one day of year where they are the center of attention and everyone fawns all over them, so for Katy to sing 'I'll make it like your Birthday everyday," is perfectly relatable. If it had made the Top 10 no one would even question it. Had they waited a month and also released an single edit of the video, it would've made it, but they didn't and it was still a Top 20 hit. Still compared to Roar & DH, Birthday and the other singles pale - not even close. The Sugar video - made the song an instant Top 5 iTunes hit, which certainly paved the way for radio to add it even faster than normal. It would be great if Sugar hit #1, but I think sales/video points peaked far too early. Now if M5 performs it on TV, I could see a big boost. Yeah agreed. relatable isn't the right word. Just some disconnect with singing about birthdays. But maybe not. I think it's a perfectly good pop song. |
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 15, 2015 17:46:48 GMT -5
I enjoy Sugar a lot, but I'll admit that I'm a bit pressed that its smashing when Birthday didn't. Oh me too!!!  I like Birthday and Sugar but I really don't see much of a difference between the songs. I'm still baffled as to why Sugar is doing better than Birthday but maybe it just came down to timing on when the singles were released Anyways...I'm still rooting for TOL. I'm not giving up hope!! Fingers crossed! |
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 15, 2015 18:33:53 GMT -5
Birthday is decent, but I do not get the hype about Sugar. Idk, I found the chorus really annoying :/ Same with Animals. Still annoyed Maps performed the weakest.
I also find the start of Sugar (some of the instrumentation) to be similar to Love Me Harder.
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Post by suth on Feb 15, 2015 19:18:57 GMT -5
I think maybe people were just burned out on Katy Perry. The only songs that smashed off "Prism" were the ones that didn't really sound like her circa 2010. ("Unconditionally" was also a departure -- it just wasn't very catchy.)
It seems like Maroon 5 has a bit of a built-in audience right now, and Top 40 radio programmers love them. I just don't hear a #1 in "Sugar," or pretty much any song right now except _maybe_ LMLYD, but the big question there is how well the song survives the buzz over the movie fading. Right now it feels a lot like early spring last year: a feel-good throwback locked in for a months-long reign at the top, a stripped-down ballad holding down second place and patiently waiting its turn. That time, it lasted all the way until summer when "Fancy" ended up breaking out, but I don't hear any grabby "Fancy"-like hooks or Iggy Azalea newcomer narratives at the moment.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Feb 15, 2015 20:55:58 GMT -5
I think maybe people were just burned out on Katy Perry. The only songs that smashed off "Prism" were the ones that didn't really sound like her circa 2010. ("Unconditionally" was also a departure -- it just wasn't very catchy.) It seems like Maroon 5 has a bit of a built-in audience right now, and Top 40 radio programmers love them. I just don't hear a #1 in "Sugar," or pretty much any song right now except _maybe_ LMLYD, but the big question there is how well the song survives the buzz over the movie fading. Right now it feels a lot like early spring last year: a feel-good throwback locked in for a months-long reign at the top, a stripped-down ballad holding down second place and patiently waiting its turn. That time, it lasted all the way until summer when "Fancy" ended up breaking out, but I don't hear any grabby "Fancy"-like hooks or Iggy Azalea newcomer narratives at the moment. Well since UF can't hold out until a song completely reveals itself as the next number one, it looks like Sugar is the next likely candidate considering it is almost guaranteed to peak at 3, minimum imo. |
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Feb 15, 2015 21:36:03 GMT -5
Style only got less than 4 million views on day 2 worldwide. Blank Space it's not.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Feb 15, 2015 22:04:13 GMT -5
Style only got less than 4 million views on day 2 worldwide. Blank Space it's not. I dont wanna count the song out yet but with these kind of numbers how can you not? |
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Post by suth on Feb 15, 2015 22:40:03 GMT -5
Well, if the recent charts have taught us anything, it's that we shouldn't underestimate just how long the same songs can hold down the top two. But Maroon 5 are also the ones who gave us the all-time champ with a _nine-week_ placeholder #1 that never really felt like a #1 hit, so there's that.
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Post by Future Captain on Feb 15, 2015 23:27:00 GMT -5
Style only got less than 4 million views on day 2 worldwide. Blank Space it's not. Pretty sure it's around 10 Million..... |
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Post by josh on Feb 15, 2015 23:31:47 GMT -5
Style only got less than 4 million views on day 2 worldwide. Blank Space it's not. Pretty sure it's around 10 Million..... When you subtract day 1 plays you get the less than 4 million. |
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Post by Future Captain on Feb 15, 2015 23:41:20 GMT -5
Pretty sure it's around 10 Million..... When you subtract day 1 plays you get the less than 4 million. Oh, I thought it's about the total view, my bad. I just really hope that Taylor sort the fuck out with Spotify |
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Post by Enigma. on Feb 16, 2015 4:32:30 GMT -5
I was disappointed in Style's initial performance after the video was released but now I'm happy that it will be top ten hit nevertheless.. She hasn't had too many third singles reaching top ten (because her album sales are so huge)
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Post by Daniel Collins on Feb 16, 2015 6:08:03 GMT -5
Mediabase (02/15/15) *This is yesterday's update
1. MARK RONSON - Uptown Funk f/Bruno Mars: 229.910 (+ 0.451)
2. ED SHEERAN - Thinking Out Loud: 184.249 (+ 0.835)
3. TAYLOR SWIFT - Blank Space: 167.105 (- 1.179)
4. HOZIER - Take Me To Church: 151.186 (- 0.886)
5. MEGHAN TRAINOR - Lips Are Movin: 124.360 (- 0.670)
6. SAM SMITH – I’m Not The Only One: 113.979 (- 3.144)
7. NICK JONAS - Jealous: 110.520 (- 2.340)
8. TAYLOR SWIFT - Style: 103.029 (+ 3.073)
9. PITBULL - Time Of Our Lives f/Ne-Yo: 98.216 (+ 1.317)
10. MAROON 5 - Sugar: 95.934 (+ 2.511)
11. USHER - I Don't Mind f/Juicy J: 91.667 (- 0.349)
12. LILLYWOOD & ROBIN SCHULZ - Prayer In C: 73.927 (+ 0.509)
13. NE-YO - She Knows f/Juicy J: 73.909 (+ 0.677)
14. RIHANNA/KANYE WEST/P MCCARTNEY - FourFiveSeconds: 71.466 (+ 2.544) ▲
15. ELLA HENDERSON - Ghost: 71.061 (- 0.024) ▼
16. FALL OUT BOY – Centuries: 67.754 (+ 0.120) ▲
17. ARIANA GRANDE & THE WEEKND - Love Me Harder: 67.242 (- 2.683) ▼
18. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Sun Daze: 66.711 (+ 0.202)
19. THOMAS RHETT - Make Me Wanna: 65.622 (+ 0.239) ▲
20. LUKE BRYAN - I See You: 65.240 (- 1.152) ▼
BLAKE SHELTON – Lonely Tonight f/ Ashley Monroe: 62.706 (+ 0.300)
RANDY HOUSER - Like A Cowboy: 58.856 (- 0.065)
JASON ALDEAN - Just Gettin' Started: 58.739 (- 0.039)
NICKI MINAJ - Truffle Butter f/Drake...: 55.920 (+ 2.299)
BRETT ELDREDGE - Mean To Me: 55.878
BEYONCE - 7/11: 54.618 (- 0.744)
NICKI MINAJ - Only f/Drake, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown: 54.379 (- 0.163)
VANCE JOY - Riptide: 53.994 (+ 0.078)
ELLIE GOULDING - Love Me Like You Do: 49.988 (+ 2.176)
KELLY CLARKSON - Heartbeat Song: 45.588 (+ 0.372)
CALVIN HARRIS - Outside f/Ellie Goulding: 44.068 (+ 0.675)
CHRIS BROWN & TYGA - Ayo: 41.680 (+ 0.808)
ZAC BROWN BAND - Homegrown: 40.530 (+ 0.550)
NATALIE LA ROSE - Somebody f/Jeremih: 39.666 (+ 0.874)
J. COLE - Apparently: 34.912 (- 0.287)
IMAGINE DRAGONS - I Bet My Life: 32.211 (+ 0.033)
SAM HUNT – Take Your Time: 31.474 (+ 0.685)
ONE DIRECTION - Night Changes: 29.462 (+ 0.456)
DRAKE - How About Now: 23.245 (+ 0.166)
NICK JONAS - Chains: 21.158 (+ 1.161)
MIRANDA LAMBERT - Little Red Wagon: 21.078 (+ 0.577)
FLO RIDA – GDFR f/ Sage The Gemini: 19.893 (+ 0.754)
THE WEEKND - Earned It: 17.759 (+ 1.031)
NICKI MINAJ – Feeling Myself f/Beyoncé: 17.302 (+ 0.156)
TOVE LO - Talking Body: 14.814 (+ 0.142)
ARIANA GRANDE – One Last Time: 14.594 (+ 1.848)
GEORGE EZRA - Budapest: 13.463 (+ 0.210)
KANYE WEST - Only One f/Paul McCartney: 10.062 (+ 0.318)
SAM SMITH – Lay Me Down: 8.922 (+ 1.478)
CIARA - I Bet: 6.864 (+ 0.235)
JESSIE J – Masterpiece: 6.190 (+ 0.005)
ECHOSMITH - Bright: 4.561 (+ 0.381)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – Little Toy Guns: 3.011 (+ 0.270)
IGGY AZALEA – Trouble f/Jennifer Hudson: 2.535 (+ 0.064)
SIA – Elastic Heart: 2.288 (+ 0.158)
MADONNA – Living For Love: 2.253 (+ 1.555)
FLORENCE + THE MACHINE - What Kind Of Man: 2.251 (+ 0.577)
FIFTH HARMONY - Worth It f/Kid Ink: 2.074 (+ 0.254)
CHARLI XCX - Doing It: 0.671 (+ 0.010)
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Post by Daniel Collins on Feb 16, 2015 6:12:20 GMT -5
YouTube (Worldwide) 2/8/15 - 2/14/15 "Thinking Out Loud" 34.8 M (+13.7M) "Uptown Funk!" 32.7 M (+3.7M) 2/1/15 - 2/7/15 "Thinking Out Loud" 21.1 M "Uptown Funk!" 29.0 M Updated estimates 1. Thinking Out Loud 312,000 2. Uptown Funk 284,000 3. FourFiveSeconds 266,000 4. Sugar 179,000 5. Love Me Like You Do 164,000 6. Take Me To Church 163,000 7. Style 124,000 8. Earned It 120,000 9. Stay With Me 114,000 10. I'm Not The Only One 89,000 kworb.net/ccThe tracking week isn't over when this is posted , right? So the gap could be smaller/bigger. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 16, 2015 7:38:27 GMT -5
For people saying birthday wasn't relatable because it's once a year , that didn't stop birthday sex from being successful
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Post by badrobot on Feb 16, 2015 9:44:54 GMT -5
Madonna suddenly with a decent gain? Fluke?
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Post by Daniel Collins on Feb 16, 2015 9:51:05 GMT -5
Mediabase (02/16/15)
1. MARK RONSON - Uptown Funk f/Bruno Mars: 230.449 (+ 0.539)
2. ED SHEERAN - Thinking Out Loud: 185.374 (+ 1.125)
3. TAYLOR SWIFT - Blank Space: 165.137 (- 1.968)
4. HOZIER - Take Me To Church: 150.969 (- 0.217)
5. MEGHAN TRAINOR - Lips Are Movin: 124.115 (- 0.245)
6. SAM SMITH – I’m Not The Only One: 111.535 (- 2.444)
7. NICK JONAS - Jealous: 108.758 (- 1.762)
8. TAYLOR SWIFT - Style: 105.973 (+ 2.944)
9. PITBULL - Time Of Our Lives f/Ne-Yo: 99.227 (+ 1.011)
10. MAROON 5 - Sugar: 98.018 (+ 2.084)
11. USHER - I Don't Mind f/Juicy J: 91.745 (+ 0.078)
12. RIHANNA/KANYE WEST/P MCCARTNEY - FourFiveSeconds: 75.129 (+ 3.663) ▲
13. NE-YO - She Knows f/Juicy J: 74.830 (+ 0.921)
13. LILLYWOOD & ROBIN SCHULZ - Prayer In C: 74.720 (+ 0.793) ▼
15. ELLA HENDERSON - Ghost: 71.501 (+ 0.440)
16. FALL OUT BOY – Centuries: 68.561 (+ 0.807)
17. FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Sun Daze: 66.278 (- 0.433) ▲
18. THOMAS RHETT - Make Me Wanna: 66.266 (+ 0.644) ▲
19. ARIANA GRANDE & THE WEEKND - Love Me Harder: 64.785 (- 2.457) ▼
20. LUKE BRYAN - I See You: 64.170 (- 1.070)
BLAKE SHELTON – Lonely Tonight f/ Ashley Monroe: 62.576 (- 0.130)
RANDY HOUSER - Like A Cowboy: 59.095 (+ 0.239)
JASON ALDEAN - Just Gettin' Started: 58.815 (+ 0.076)
NICKI MINAJ - Truffle Butter f/Drake...: 58.031 (+ 2.111)
BRETT ELDREDGE - Mean To Me: 56.124 (+ 0.246)
NICKI MINAJ - Only f/Drake, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown: 54.831 (+ 0.452)
VANCE JOY - Riptide: 54.456 (+ 0.462)
BEYONCE - 7/11: 53.649 (- 0.969)
ELLIE GOULDING - Love Me Like You Do: 52.214 (+ 2.226)
KELLY CLARKSON - Heartbeat Song: 46.900 (+ 1.312)
CALVIN HARRIS - Outside f/Ellie Goulding: 44.567 (+ 0.499)
CHRIS BROWN & TYGA - Ayo: 42.353 (+ 0.673)
ZAC BROWN BAND - Homegrown: 41.188 (+ 0.658)
NATALIE LA ROSE - Somebody f/Jeremih: 41.157 (+ 1.491)
J. COLE - Apparently: 35.104 (+ 0.192)
IMAGINE DRAGONS - I Bet My Life: 32.451 (+ 0.240)
SAM HUNT – Take Your Time: 32.041 (+ 0.567)
ONE DIRECTION - Night Changes: 29.609 (+ 0.147)
DRAKE - How About Now: 23.426 (+ 0.181)
NICK JONAS - Chains: 22.175 (+ 1.017)
MIRANDA LAMBERT - Little Red Wagon: 21.801 (+ 0.723)
FLO RIDA – GDFR f/ Sage The Gemini: 20.694 (+ 0.801)
THE WEEKND - Earned It: 18.787 (+ 1.028)
NICKI MINAJ – Feeling Myself f/Beyoncé: 17.088 (- 0.214)
ARIANA GRANDE – One Last Time: 15.993 (+ 1.399)
TOVE LO - Talking Body: 15.039 (+ 0.225)
GEORGE EZRA - Budapest: 13.541 (+ 0.078)
SAM SMITH – Lay Me Down: 10.612 (+ 1.690)
KANYE WEST - Only One f/Paul McCartney: 10.185 (+ 0.123)
CIARA - I Bet: 7.004 (+ 0.140)
JESSIE J – Masterpiece: 6.334 (+ 0.144)
ECHOSMITH - Bright: 4.626 (+ 0.065)
MADONNA – Living For Love: 3.605 (+ 1.352)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD – Little Toy Guns: 3.364 (+ 0.353)
FLORENCE + THE MACHINE - What Kind Of Man: 2.833 (+ 0.582)
IGGY AZALEA – Trouble f/Jennifer Hudson: 2.819 (+ 0.284)
SIA – Elastic Heart: 2.471 (+ 0.183)
FIFTH HARMONY - Worth It f/Kid Ink: 2.219 (+ 0.145)
CHARLI XCX - Doing It: 0.713 (+ 0.042)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 10:31:41 GMT -5
YouTube (Worldwide) 2/8/15 - 2/14/15 "Thinking Out Loud" 34.8 M (+13.7M) "Uptown Funk!" 32.7 M (+3.7M) 2/1/15 - 2/7/15 "Thinking Out Loud" 21.1 M "Uptown Funk!" 29.0 M Updated estimates 1. Thinking Out Loud 312,000 2. Uptown Funk 284,000 3. FourFiveSeconds 266,000 4. Sugar 179,000 5. Love Me Like You Do 164,000 6. Take Me To Church 163,000 7. Style 124,000 8. Earned It 120,000 9. Stay With Me 114,000 10. I'm Not The Only One 89,000 kworb.net/ccSeeing as how Uptown Funk gained on Thinking Out Loud pretty significantly since Friday, it will surely be smaller. Hell, I won't even be surprised if UF sold more in this tracking week. |
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