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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 6, 2015 13:49:09 GMT -5
Can you buy individual tracks via Apple Music? because surely Apple wouldn't want to kick itself/iTunes in the keister.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 6, 2015 14:20:38 GMT -5
Well... No.2 seller is like 110,000... Set the world record..
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 6, 2015 14:25:07 GMT -5
Cant Feel My Face better not hit Number 1 before Cheerleader, Cheerleader needs to be Number 1 before Cant Feel My Face takes over, if it ever does, Idk why everyone likes that overrated Weeknd song, both Weeknd songs are overrated, also Classic Man is coming for that Number 1 spot in near future as well, so we will see what ends up happening How are both of the Weeknd songs overrated??! They, especially "the hills", deserve critical claim and no.1 much more than a song full of "ahh ah ahhhhhhhh ahh, ahhhh ahh ahhhhhhh ahhhh, ah ahh ahh ahh ahhhhhh ah ahh ah ahhhhh......." |
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 6, 2015 14:41:38 GMT -5
My Prediction:
1. Cheerleader
2. Bad Blood
3. See You Again
4. Can't Feel My Face
5. Trap Queen
6. Shut Up And Dance
7. Watch Me
8. Lean On
9. Fight Song
10. Uptown Funk or Cool For The Summer
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Post by lyhom on Jul 6, 2015 14:42:31 GMT -5
Cant Feel My Face better not hit Number 1 before Cheerleader, Cheerleader needs to be Number 1 before Cant Feel My Face takes over, if it ever does, Idk why everyone likes that overrated Weeknd song, both Weeknd songs are overrated, also Classic Man is coming for that Number 1 spot in near future as well, so we will see what ends up happening How are both of the Weeknd songs overrated??! They, especially "the hills", deserve critical claim and no.1 much more than a song full of "ahh ah ahhhhhhhh ahh, ahhhh ahh ahhhhhhh ahhhh, ah ahh ahh ahh ahhhhhh ah ahh ah ahhhhh......."  |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 6, 2015 15:09:52 GMT -5
My Prediction: 1. Cheerleader 2. Bad Blood 3. See You Again 4. Can't Feel My Face 5. Trap Queen 6. Shut Up And Dance 7. Watch Me 8. Lean On 9. Fight Song 10. Uptown Funk or Cool For The Summer Don't sell Bitch Better Have My Money short.. I feel that it has a lot of chance to take off to top 10 this week, as long as billboard.com is not brewing a secret plot to down this song. |
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Post by Gary on Jul 6, 2015 15:23:18 GMT -5
My Prediction: 1. Cheerleader 2. Bad Blood 3. See You Again 4. Can't Feel My Face 5. Trap Queen 6. Shut Up And Dance 7. Watch Me 8. Lean On 9. Fight Song 10. Uptown Funk or Cool For The Summer Don't sell Bitch Better Have My Money short.. I feel that it has a lot of chance to take off to top 10 this week, as long as billboard.com is not brewing a secret plot to down this song. So when has billboard.com ever had a secret plot to kill off a song? |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 6, 2015 15:35:39 GMT -5
Don't sell Bitch Better Have My Money short.. I feel that it has a lot of chance to take off to top 10 this week, as long as billboard.com is not brewing a secret plot to down this song. So when has billboard.com ever had a secret plot to kill off a song? Katy perry's roar, it was killed off the chart in 3 weeks from #27 (#27-#38-#46) and there's something fishy about it. Yiyis's the fox, right after it left top 10, it plummeted off top 50 in only 2 weeks! (#10-#29-#54) Do ye believe that's probable to happen? And... Most obviously, ***'s g**gnam style, spent 7 weeks at no.2 without hitting no.1 and its gap between one more night is teeny tiny.. Eventually it didn't top the chart even though its digital and spotify are way higher than OMN So you tell me, why not? |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 6, 2015 15:39:27 GMT -5
Don't sell Bitch Better Have My Money short.. I feel that it has a lot of chance to take off to top 10 this week, as long as billboard.com is not brewing a secret plot to down this song. So when has billboard.com ever had a secret plot to kill off a song? And Taylor's Out Of the Woods should have debuted top 10 but .. "no!!" Says billboard.com. Afterwards, it deducted its digital and let it debuted at #18 only. It should have sold about 300,000 that week but billboard just deducted, deducted, deducted... |
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Post by josh on Jul 6, 2015 15:40:36 GMT -5
payola!!!
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 6, 2015 15:41:58 GMT -5
So when has billboard.com ever had a secret plot to kill off a song? Katy perry's roar, it was killed off the chart in 3 weeks from #27 (#27-#38-#46) and there's something fishy about it. Yiyis's the fox, right after it left top 10, it plummeted off top 50 in only 2 weeks! (#10-#29-#54) Do ye believe that's probable to happen? And... Most obviously, ***'s g**gnam style, spent 7 weeks at no.2 without hitting no.1 and its gap between one more night is teeny tiny.. Eventually it didn't top the chart even though its digital and spotify are way higher than OMN So you tell me, why not? Roar most likely fell off because Unconditionally was out as a single and Dark Horse started to blow up. It's not easy to maintain three singles on the Hot 100. The Fox was a viral thing that fell off quickly once the viral-ness wore off (ala Harlem Shake) While I wish Gangnam Style was #1, that was back before streaming was a big component and GS has very little radio while OMN had very high radio numbers |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 6, 2015 15:43:26 GMT -5
That reminds me of something quite opposed to that yet still reflects billboard.com's carelessness from time to time. I'd rather believe in there's gonna be two moons in the sky than Coldplay's "a sky full of stars" could have peaked at #10.. Trust me, that's wayyyyyyy too real, billboard double counted that song's digital sales for it was kinda tricky that was Coldplay's album week and billboard just conducted some "miscalculation" or otherwise there's no way for that song even to reach top 20!!
After all... Billboard.com pretty good huh?
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Post by ry4n on Jul 6, 2015 15:43:34 GMT -5
What's your opinions of the Moon Landings, JFK and 9/11?
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Post by Gary on Jul 6, 2015 15:51:51 GMT -5
What's your opinions of the Moon Landings, JFK and 9/11? Billboard was behind those too. It's all about manipulating pop culture events to bring certain artists and song styles to the forefront that appeal to the magazine writers |
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 6, 2015 16:06:51 GMT -5
Illuminati confirmed.
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Post by badrobot on Jul 6, 2015 16:18:30 GMT -5
Y'all are crazy. I think there's a chance Billboard will make editorial calls on close races but at most it would change songs a position or 2. Most of the things that seem "fishy" are usually moments where a new rule recently came into effect, or the "fishy" thing triggered them making a rule change later. Also HolidayGuy -- Apple Music eliminates any need to buy a song. You can add almost anything to your library and play it all you want. It's actually MORE difficult to buy a song (at least on an iPhone/iPad) because you have to use the separate iTunes Store app, whereas everything is available via streaming, including your own library, in the "Music" app. I would not be surprised if it has a fairly dramatic effect on sales. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 16:26:31 GMT -5
at most it would change songs a position or 2. Well that position or 2 could make a huge difference particularly for songs that ended up peaking at #2/#3 for many weeks (Gangnam Style, Payphone, Bad Romance, Pumped Up Kicks, Good Feeling, etc. and not to mention Problem which was literally a few points away from #1 the week it debuted at #3)...so it can, in fact, make a pretty big difference in the long run in terms of peaks... |
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Post by House Lannister on Jul 6, 2015 16:32:27 GMT -5
Tentative predictions (thanks for Dylan pointing out I left out Where are U Now and for myself for catching Worth It):
1. Cheerleader
2. Bad Blood
3. Can't Feel My Face
4. See You Again
5. Watch Me
6. Shut Up and Dance
7. Trap Queen
8. Good for You
9. Fight Song
10. Honey I'm Good (it's eyelash close between 10-12, imo)
11. Lean On
12. Hey Mama (lack of sales knocks it out)
13. Worth It
14. Uptown Funk (lack of sales, declining radio knocks this out0
15. Where Are U Now?
16. BBHMM (the video will pull it to a new high, but sales?)
17. Cool for the Summer (lack of sales keeps this outside top 10)
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 6, 2015 16:52:54 GMT -5
Tentative predictions: 1. Cheerleader 2. Bad Blood 3. Can't Feel My Face 4. See You Again 5. Watch Me 6. Shut Up and Dance 7. Trap Queen 8. Good for You 9. Fight Song 10. Honey I'm Good (it's eyelash close between 10-12, imo) 11. Lean On 12. Hey Mama (lack of sales knocks it out) 13. Uptown Funk (no sales and declining air knocks this out) 14. BBHMM (the video will pull it to a new high, but sales?) 15. Cool for the Summer (lack of sales keeps this outside top 10) I don't think Fight Song even has the slightest to knock Uptown Funk off |
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Post by badrobot on Jul 6, 2015 18:18:36 GMT -5
at most it would change songs a position or 2. Well that position or 2 could make a huge difference particularly for songs that ended up peaking at #2/#3 for many weeks (Gangnam Style, Payphone, Bad Romance, Pumped Up Kicks, Good Feeling, etc. and not to mention Problem which was literally a few points away from #1 the week it debuted at #3)...so it can, in fact, make a pretty big difference in the long run in terms of peaks... I'm referring to the people claiming things like Roar's fall were fishy. BB makes a point of spelling out close races for #1, I don't think they make positional calls that high up. I'm thinking of something like a falling #20 song and a climbing #21 song being virtually tied in points -- I wouldn't be surprised if on occasion they've goosed the #21 up. (And if they did actually tie, they do break ties by giving it to the song that climbed the most that week). We know they make some subjective calls with songs for recurrency, and in the past they have made subjective calls about awarding bullets. And their genre charts often have questionable calls on songs being included at all. But I don't think they're cooking the books on major achievements or punishing particular songs. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 6, 2015 19:00:01 GMT -5
Tentative predictions: 1. Cheerleader 2. Bad Blood 3. Can't Feel My Face 4. See You Again 5. Watch Me 6. Shut Up and Dance 7. Trap Queen 8. Good for You 9. Fight Song 10. Honey I'm Good (it's eyelash close between 10-12, imo) 11. Lean On 12. Hey Mama (lack of sales knocks it out) 13. Uptown Funk (no sales and declining air knocks this out) 14. BBHMM (the video will pull it to a new high, but sales?) 15. Cool for the Summer (lack of sales keeps this outside top 10) Where Are U Now? |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 6, 2015 19:13:33 GMT -5
What's your opinions of the Moon Landings, JFK and 9/11? Billboard was behind those too. It's all about manipulating pop culture events to bring certain artists and song styles to the forefront that appeal to the magazine writers It was shane. How else does he have all this data if he isn't the one behind it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 20:14:08 GMT -5
Watch Me has been falling consistently the past 36 hours on iTunes.  |
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Post by House Lannister on Jul 6, 2015 20:40:13 GMT -5
Tentative predictions: 1. Cheerleader 2. Bad Blood 3. Can't Feel My Face 4. See You Again 5. Watch Me 6. Shut Up and Dance 7. Trap Queen 8. Good for You 9. Fight Song 10. Honey I'm Good (it's eyelash close between 10-12, imo) 11. Lean On 12. Hey Mama (lack of sales knocks it out) 13. Uptown Funk (no sales and declining air knocks this out) 14. BBHMM (the video will pull it to a new high, but sales?) 15. Cool for the Summer (lack of sales keeps this outside top 10) Where Are U Now? Good catch. I've edited my prediction to include that and Worth It. |
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Post by erjentaps on Jul 6, 2015 20:42:37 GMT -5
Dance Club Songs
*** No. 1 (1 week)*** "Pretty Girls" Britney Spears & Iggy Azalea
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Following its No. 29 peak on the Billboard Hot 100 in May (and much recent online back-and-forth), Spears and Azalea's "Pretty Girls" rules the Dance Club Songs chart. It's Spears' ninth No. 1 on the chart and first since "I Wanna Go" in 2011. Azalea reigns for the fourth time.
Greatest Gainer No. 7 "B**** I'm Madonna" Madonna Featuring Nicki Minaj
Debut No. 42 "Generate" Eric Prydz
Debut No. 44 "Fun" Pitbull Featuring Chris Brown
Debut No. 45 "Erase Me" Super Square
Debut No. 47 "Bad Blood" Taylor Swift Featuring Kendrick Lamar
Debut No. 48 "Done" Ryan Skyy Featuring Niki Darling
Dance/Mix Show Airplay
*** No. 1 (2 weeks)*** "Lean On" Major Lazer & DJ Snake Featuring MO
Greatest Gainer No. 8 "Can't Feel My Face" The Weeknd
Debut No. 21 "Holding On" Disclosure Featuring Gregory Porter
Debut No. 25 "Hold My Hand" Jess Glynne
Debut No. 29 "SummerThing!" Afrojack Featuring Mike Taylor
Debut No. 36 "Generate" Eric Prydz
Debut No. 40 "B**** Better Have My Money"
Rhythmic Songs
*** No. 1 (2 weeks)*** "You Know You Like It" DJ Snake & AlunaGeorge
Greatest Gainer No. 7 "Can't Feel My Face" The Weeknd
Debut No. 32 "Cheyenne" Jason Derulo
Debut No. 37 "Choices (Yup)" E-40
Debut No. 38 "Alright" Kendrick Lamar
Adult Contemporary
*** No. 1 (2 weeks)*** "Style" Taylor Swift
Greatest Gainer No. 13 "Bad Blood" Taylor Swift Featuring Kendrick Lamar
Debut No. 26 "Time Machine" Ingrid Michaelson
Adult Pop Songs
*** No. 1 (8 weeks)*** "Shut Up And Dance" WALK THE MOON
Greatest Gainer No. 21 "Can't Feel My Face" The Weeknd
Debut No. 35 "Renegades" X Ambassadors
Debut No. 39 "Like I'm Gonna Lose You" Meghan Trainor Featuring John Legend
Pop Songs
*** No. 1 (3 weeks)*** "Bad Blood" Taylor Swift Featuring Kendrick Lamar
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 22 "Cool for the Summer" Demi Lovato
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Lovato leaps onto Pop Songs at No. 22 with her new seasonally-appropriate single, thanks, in part, to hourly plays July 1 on participating iHeartMedia stations. The debut marks her highest on the chart, where she's notched four top 10s, including the No. 1 "Give Your Heart a Break" in 2012.
Debut No. 37 "Marvin Gaye" Charlie Puth Featuring Meghan Trainor
Debut No. 39 "Bad Girls" MKTO
Debut No. 40 "Around The World" Natalie La Rose Featuring Fetty Wap
R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay
*** No. 1 (13 weeks)*** "Earned It (Fifty Shades Of Grey)" The Weeknd
Greatest Gainer No. 26 "All Eyes On You" Meek Mill Featuring Chris Brown & Nicki Minaj
Debut No. 47 "679" Fetty Wap / Remy Boyz
Debut No. 50 "My Favorite Part Of You" Charlie Wilson
Adult R&B Songs
*** No. 1 (7 weeks)*** "Earned It (Fifty Shades Of Grey)" The Weeknd
Greatest Gainer No. 8 "No Sleeep" Janet
Debut No. 29 "Morning Sun" Robin Thicke
Rap Airplay
*** No. 1 (1 week)*** "See You Again" Wiz Khalifa Featuring Charlie Puth
Greatest Gainer No. 5 "My Way" Fetty Wap
Debut No. 22 "679" Fetty Wap / Remy Boyz
Rock Airplay
*** No. 1 (3 weeks)*** "Renegades" X Ambassadors
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 17 "Cut The Cord" Shinedown
Debut No. 44 "Outta My Mind" ARCS
Debut No. 45 "Different Colors" WALK THE MOON
Debut No. 48 "I Am" AWOLNATION
Alternative Songs
*** No. 1 (4 weeks)*** "Renegades" X Ambassadors
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 38 "Outta My Mind" ARCS
Debut No. 39 "Molecules" Atlas Genius
Debut No. 40 "Now" Joywave
Adult Alternative Songs
*** No. 1 (2 weeks)***/Greatest Gainer "Dreams" Beck
Debut No. 26 "Tell Me What You Want From Me" Good Old War
Debut No. 29 "The Ghosts Of Beverly Drive" Death Cab For Cutie
Debut No. 30 "Satisfy Me" Anderson East
Greatest Gainer "Outta My Mind" ARCS
Mainstream Rock Songs
*** No. 1 (9 weeks)*** "Failure" Breaking Benjamin
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 9 "Cut the Cord" Shinedown
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More than 12 years into its history on the list, Shinedown scores its highest Mainstream Rock Songs debut, as "Cut the Cord" (No. 9) becomes its first song to start in the top 10. The song, premiered on Billboard.com (June 29) and from the band's forthcoming fifth studio album, is Shinedown's 19th Mainstream Rock Songs top 10 in as many visits, extending the group's record for the most consecutive top 10s in the chart's 34-year history.
Debut No. 40 "Bring It On Back" Buckcherry
Smooth Jazz Songs
*** No. 1 (1 week)*** "Coast To Coast" Vincent Ingala
Debut No. 12 "Fly With The Wind" Najee
Debut No. 27 "Harmony Park" Nate Harasim Featuring Dave Koz & Nils
Debut No. 29 "Cabo" Randy Scott
Greatest Gainer "Swagster" Jeff Golub
Country Airplay
*** No. 1 (2 weeks)*** "Sangria" Blake Shelton
Greatest Gainer No. 14 "House Party" Sam Hunt
Debut No. 52 "(This Ain't No) Drunk Dial" A Thousand Horses
Debut No. 58 "Backroad Song" Granger Smith
Debut No. 59 "Dibs" Kelsea Ballerini
Gospel Airplay
*** No. 1 (5 weeks)*** "This Place" Tamela Mann
Greatest Gainer No. 7 "Gotta Have You" Jonathan McReynolds
Debut No. 30 "I Luh God" Erica Campbell Featuring Big Shizz
Latin Airplay
*** No. 1 (12 weeks)*** "El Perdon" Nicky Jam & Enrique Iglesias
Debut/Greatst Gainer No. 35 "Piensalo" Banda Sinaloense MS de Sergio Lizarraga
Debut No. 36 "Noche de Pasion" Frank Reyes
Debut No. 38 "Si Lo Hacemos Bien" Wisin
Debut No. 44 "Cajita de Carton" Intocable
Debut No. 47 "Cuando Te Veo" ChocQuibTown
Debut No. 48 "Un Desengano" Conjunto Primavera Featuring Ricky Munoz
Regional Mexican Songs
*** No. 1 (2 weeks)*** "El Amor de Su Vida" Julion Alvarez y Su Norteno Banda
Debut/Greatest Gainer No. 12 "Piensalo" Banda Sinaloense MS de Sergio Lizarraga
Latin Pop Songs
*** No. 1 (9 weeks)*** "El Perdon" Nicky Jam & Enrique Iglesias
Debut No. 26 "Nadie Como" Flex
Debut No. 31 "Como Yo Te Amo" Gloria Trevi
Greatest Gainer "Ahora Que Te Vas" Christian Daniel
Tropical Songs
*** No. 1 (1 week)***/Greatest Gainer "Dificil" Jorge Villamizar Featuring Oscar D'Leon, Descemer Bueno & MoLa
Debut No. 36 "Se Desesperaba (El Carrito Azul)" Ricardo Montaner
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Post by House Lannister on Jul 6, 2015 20:44:40 GMT -5
Tentative predictions: 1. Cheerleader 2. Bad Blood 3. Can't Feel My Face 4. See You Again 5. Watch Me 6. Shut Up and Dance 7. Trap Queen 8. Good for You 9. Fight Song 10. Honey I'm Good (it's eyelash close between 10-12, imo) 11. Lean On 12. Hey Mama (lack of sales knocks it out) 13. Uptown Funk (no sales and declining air knocks this out) 14. BBHMM (the video will pull it to a new high, but sales?) 15. Cool for the Summer (lack of sales keeps this outside top 10) I don't think Fight Song even has the slightest to knock Uptown Funk off Fight Song is winning the sales race which I think more than makes up for the gap in the airplay (sales matter as was proven by See You Again when it started on top). Uptown Funk (as much as I loved that song) is dealing with dwindling numbers everywhere. Too many songs are knocking on that top 10 door and I think the door breaks down this week. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 6, 2015 23:18:47 GMT -5
So when has billboard.com ever had a secret plot to kill off a song? Katy perry's roar, it was killed off the chart in 3 weeks from #27 (#27-#38-#46) and there's something fishy about it. Yiyis's the fox, right after it left top 10, it plummeted off top 50 in only 2 weeks! (#10-#29-#54) Do ye believe that's probable to happen? And... Most obviously, ***'s g**gnam style, spent 7 weeks at no.2 without hitting no.1 and its gap between one more night is teeny tiny.. Eventually it didn't top the chart even though its digital and spotify are way higher than OMN So you tell me, why not? Re: GS - one factor that's left out of the equation: album sales - GS (zero), while OMN was the second single off an album that was selling well and OMN did goose those sales. (Not that many would've bought PSY's album, but that would've reduced single sales.) Would it have been cool for a novelty hit that was truly massive and viral and cheesy to hit No. 1 for a week, definitely, but OMN was a smash on its own merits. It's always fun to speculate if there is goosing, etc. However, as pointed out in an earlier discussion, Billboard and the H100 are for the INDUSTRY and not fans, so it is completely objective. ;) We're lucky we live in an era where we now know margins between songs, etc. It's too bad we don't have that historical data because it would've been awesome to know which songs barely made it to No. 1 or had massive leads, but those were also based on easily manipulated data (radio station playlist, record store bestseller lists - without much objective data). |
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Post by therealstan123 on Jul 7, 2015 2:04:50 GMT -5
What happened to The Hills? It's dark green and #4 on iTunes. I thought it was killed by CFMF lmao
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 7, 2015 2:16:20 GMT -5
What happened to The Hills? It's dark green and #4 on iTunes. I thought it was killed by CFMF lmao Ikr |
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Post by therealstan123 on Jul 7, 2015 2:34:19 GMT -5
What happened to The Hills? It's dark green and #4 on iTunes. I thought it was killed by CFMF lmao Ikr why? |
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