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Post by Mike is BAD on Mar 31, 2016 5:33:52 GMT -5
I think it's time to move on from THAT.
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Post by renfield75 on Mar 31, 2016 8:52:54 GMT -5
I highly doubt a song is damaging someone's mental health and if it is, they need to either change the radio station or remove that download from their music device. 7 Years and See You Again are both sentimental/nostalgic songs that almost anyone can relate to. Personally, songs that I can relate to are the ones I like the most. And that's why they do well, people do relate to that. I dislike both of those songs as well as other nostalgic hits like One Sweet Day. But I'm not the norm. I find the past boring. I want to explore the future and create new things rather than just remembering old. There was a great quote from Bjork once that she thought everybody should get one day a year to dwell on all the nostalgia they want and the rest of the year focus on creating something new. I love that mindset. Those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive: Mark Ronson's 80s nostalgia resulted in "Uptown Funk". Robin Thicke and Pharrell's love of "Got To Give It Up" gave us "Blurred Lines". You can often learn as much and be inspired by looking back as you can looking forward. I agree too much of of one or the other is bad though, you need a balance. |
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Post by BlueSwan on Mar 31, 2016 10:27:55 GMT -5
I agree.. I recently discovered that See You Again is a MUCH BETTER song than 7 Years imo. That's like saying that you would rather get punched in the face than kicked in the nads. Both of those songs are cringeworthy lowest-common-denominator trash, IMO. I am cheering for 7 Years, but only because they're danish. Besides, while Rihanna is cool, "Work" is surely one of her worst hits and shouldn't be #1 for months on end. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Mar 31, 2016 10:46:06 GMT -5
I agree.. I recently discovered that See You Again is a MUCH BETTER song than 7 Years imo. That's like saying that you would rather get punched in the face than kicked in the nads. Both of those songs are cringeworthy lowest-common-denominator trash, IMO. I am cheering for 7 Years, but only because they're danish. Besides, while Rihanna is cool, "Work" is surely one of her worst hits and shouldn't be #1 for months on end. We're SOOOO different! Now I cheer for See You Again and Charlie Puth who has real talent and voice that's not so annoying. 7 Year just sounds creepy as **** and makes me pretty uncomfortable to listen to it.. I think listening to 7 Year repeatedly can really impact my mental health and I personally still don't think it's healthy. But maybe for some others this song is tolerable? I dunno |
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Post by Au$tin on Mar 31, 2016 11:28:05 GMT -5
Lol at the idea that 7 Years could cause depression.
Nostalgia =/= mental illness. Jesus Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 12:07:27 GMT -5
I actually had much more of a problem with SYA than 7 Years. The car-commercial production, the forced-sounding chorus, and the verses that didn't feel like they fit at all with the theme of Paul Walker dying really rubbed me the wrong way. If the song at least felt sincere, I wouldn't have too much of a problem with it, but it just doesn't. Also the fact that they were framing such a generic song as a tribute to Paul Walker for the masses to eat up, while they just laughed all the way to the bank. Such a shameless cash grab. 7 years doesn't sound nearly as insincere.
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Post by Zach on Mar 31, 2016 12:11:14 GMT -5
That's like saying that you would rather get punched in the face than kicked in the nads. Both of those songs are cringeworthy lowest-common-denominator trash, IMO. I am cheering for 7 Years, but only because they're danish. Besides, while Rihanna is cool, "Work" is surely one of her worst hits and shouldn't be #1 for months on end. We're SOOOO different! Now I cheer for See You Again and Charlie Puth who has real talent and voice that's not so annoying. 7 Year just sounds creepy as **** and makes me pretty uncomfortable to listen to it.. I think listening to 7 Year repeatedly can really impact my mental health and I personally still don't think it's healthy. But maybe for some others this song is tolerable? I dunno I for one find 7 Years to be an incredible song. I don't think the dude's voice is annoying nor do I find anything wrong with his accent, his pronunciation is pretty great if you ask me. It isn't creepy or depressing and certainly not impactful on my mental health. To me it's just nostalgic and even somewhat inspirational. Now the song certainly doesn't have to have the same impact on me as it does on you but I think you should come to accept the fact that, yes, many, many, many sane human beings do enjoy this song. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Mar 31, 2016 12:36:14 GMT -5
Lol at the idea that 7 Years could cause depression. Nostalgia =/= mental illness. Jesus Christ. In this case 7 Years doesn't bring any sense of nostalgia but the latter. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Mar 31, 2016 12:42:38 GMT -5
But whatever, I'm a platinum member now!!
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Post by mluv on Mar 31, 2016 17:25:06 GMT -5
Well 7 Years is hardly going to be upbeat since Lukas Graham wrote it as a way to work out his feelings about the death of his dad. (He doesn't go higher than 60 in the song because his dad died at 61). I agree it's shamelessly sentimental which is probably why some find it so appealing.
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Post by @DjKingBee on Mar 31, 2016 17:39:18 GMT -5
IGGY IGGZ BETTA HAVE THE HOT SHOT DEBUT THIS WEEK!!!
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Post by kingofpain on Mar 31, 2016 17:47:04 GMT -5
Um... Didn't Iggy Azalea debut on the last hot 100?
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Mar 31, 2016 18:13:09 GMT -5
Lol at the idea that 7 Years could cause depression. Nostalgia =/= mental illness. Jesus Christ. Wow, 10 likes? I'm like an all-pulse reject lol |
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Post by Gary on Mar 31, 2016 18:32:36 GMT -5
Lol at the idea that 7 Years could cause depression. Nostalgia =/= mental illness. Jesus Christ. Wow, 10 likes? I'm like an all-pulse reject lol That and a platinum member. Today is your lucky day |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Mar 31, 2016 18:45:36 GMT -5
Wow, 10 likes? I'm like an all-pulse reject lol That and a platinum member. Today is your lucky day Work work work work work work~ |
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Post by Libra on Mar 31, 2016 18:48:12 GMT -5
IGGY IGGZ BETTA HAVE THE HOT SHOT DEBUT THIS WEEK!!! This would've been perfect for last week's thread. ;) (Where she did in fact get that.) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 19:38:56 GMT -5
My predictions for next week:
1. Work (though not by as much of a margin as before. Slipping streaming, peaking early on airplay, and didn't get nearly as much of a sales boost as everything else.)
2. 7 Years (Large sales boost and huge airplay gains, but gonna need to pick up streaming faster.)
3. NO (Large sales and streaming gains, decent airplay gains)
4. My House (Decent sales boost, but peaked on airplay and streaming)
5. PILLOWTALK (Album's been released, so sales increase. Still gaining airplay, but lost a bit of streaming.)
6-7: Stressed Out and Love Yourself (Too close to call. While Stressed Out lost more airplay, Love Yourself had no sales boost. Streaming's dropping at around the same rate for both, though I think SO might actually have the youtube edge for once. Where can I find that chart?)
8. Me, Myself and I (Decent sales boost, but streaming and airplay have peaked).
9. I Took A Pill In Ibiza (Not much of a sales boost, but okay streaming and airplay gains)
10. Work From Home (Streaming gains, airplay catching up, and large sales boost. Hoping this crashes soon, but knowing my luck it's probably gonna get into the top 5 at least.)
Rough estimates based on Kworb statistics.
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Post by imbondz on Mar 31, 2016 19:43:06 GMT -5
Well 7 Years is hardly going to be upbeat since Lukas Graham wrote it as a way to work out his feelings about the death of his dad. (He doesn't go higher than 60 in the song because his dad died at 61). I agree it's shamelessly sentimental which is probably why some find it so appealing. If it's about his dad dying I'm not sure how that is shamelessly sentimental. It's a pretty song imo. |
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Post by felipe on Mar 31, 2016 20:49:20 GMT -5
I actually had much more of a problem with SYA than 7 Years. The car-commercial production, the forced-sounding chorus, and the verses that didn't feel like they fit at all with the theme of Paul Walker dying really rubbed me the wrong way. If the song at least felt sincere, I wouldn't have too much of a problem with it, but it just doesn't. Also the fact that they were framing such a generic song as a tribute to Paul Walker for the masses to eat up, while they just laughed all the way to the bank. Such a shameless cash grab. 7 years doesn't sound nearly as insincere. I had the exact same problem with SYA, glad to know I was not the only one. |
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Post by jarhys on Mar 31, 2016 22:00:35 GMT -5
I actually had much more of a problem with SYA than 7 Years. The car-commercial production, the forced-sounding chorus, and the verses that didn't feel like they fit at all with the theme of Paul Walker dying really rubbed me the wrong way. If the song at least felt sincere, I wouldn't have too much of a problem with it, but it just doesn't. Also the fact that they were framing such a generic song as a tribute to Paul Walker for the masses to eat up, while they just laughed all the way to the bank. Such a shameless cash grab. 7 years doesn't sound nearly as insincere. I had the exact same problem with SYA, glad to know I was not the only one. SYA was written by Charlie Puth at first, and it didn't contribute to Paul Walker at all. Maybe that's why you feel this song isn't that sincere. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 22:29:52 GMT -5
I had the exact same problem with SYA, glad to know I was not the only one. SYA was written by Charlie Puth at first, and it didn't contribute to Paul Walker at all. Maybe that's why you feel this song isn't that sincere. Sounds like exactly what happened. I don't believe that Charlie Puth was close to Paul Walker at all. Or at least nowhere near, say, Lukas and his father. The songwriting in 7 years feels much more personal, as if Lukas was writing to someone he knew and loved dearly, which was the case. See You Again just sounds like unrelated songwriters were asked to make a tribute song. It's the problem I have with Puth's other songs too, as well as songs like Bruno Mars' "Grenade". They're trying so hard to be over-dramatic, yet lack the believability that you need to pull these kinds of songs off. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Mar 31, 2016 23:40:45 GMT -5
SYA was written by Charlie Puth at first, and it didn't contribute to Paul Walker at all. Maybe that's why you feel this song isn't that sincere. Sounds like exactly what happened. I don't believe that Charlie Puth was close to Paul Walker at all. Or at least nowhere near, say, Lukas and his father. The songwriting in 7 years feels much more personal, as if Lukas was writing to someone he knew and loved dearly, which was the case. See You Again just sounds like unrelated songwriters were asked to make a tribute song. It's the problem I have with Puth's other songs too, as well as songs like Bruno Mars' "Grenade". They're trying so hard to be over-dramatic, yet lack the believability that you need to pull these kinds of songs off. Do you know the term "hindsight bias"? I'm sorry, but I feel like that's all about you. When I first listened to 7 Years, I looked up the lyrics but knew nothing about the fact that it's written for his father. And I did hear some personal emotions for sure, it's just that, based simply on his vocal performanceI itself, I REALLY didn't feel that the song sounds like it's to someone close. Actually upon first listen, I felt that this song's written to himself. I don't deny that 7 Years does contain emotions that are pure and wonderful, but I REALLY don't think he expressed those emotions in a comfortable way. His band is sincere in the songwriting and everything for sure. But it doesn't mean it's the most effective or most evocative one. |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Mar 31, 2016 23:44:20 GMT -5
Speaking of sincere songwriting, I Took a Pill in Ibiza is, in my opinion, dramatic, evocative in a real way and it's more than beautiful.
Mike's voice is calm and imbued with a whiff of sadness, and it's good because it's not affected, and not overcompensating like 7 Years (which is honestly REALLY uncomfortable to listen to).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 23:47:31 GMT -5
Speaking of sincere songwriting, I Took a Pill in Ibiza is, in my opinion, dramatic, evocative in a real way and it's more than beautiful. Mike's voice is calm and imbued with a whiff of sadness. I agree with this. That's why I like the song a lot too |
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Now, regarding this week, Dangerous Woman scored 3 million views in its first day, which will apply to this week, so I think this should give it a better chance at Top 10 this week. Next week should be easy I'm guessing for this to go back in the Top 10, what do you all think?
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Apr 1, 2016 0:21:12 GMT -5
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Post by jarhys on Apr 1, 2016 0:46:49 GMT -5
Afire Love is much more beautiful song. Sadly it doesn't get released as single.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Apr 1, 2016 1:11:10 GMT -5
Lol at the idea that 7 Years could cause depression. Nostalgia =/= mental illness. Jesus Christ. Au$tin, listening to 7 Years can cause depression TO ME, that's all I've been saying. Thank you! |
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Apr 1, 2016 1:12:27 GMT -5
Now it looks like some good-looking guy just got 14 likes lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 1:18:03 GMT -5
Speaking of sincere songwriting, I Took a Pill in Ibiza is, in my opinion, dramatic, evocative in a real way and it's more than beautiful. Mike's voice is calm and imbued with a whiff of sadness, and it's good because it's not affected, and not overcompensating like 7 Years (which is honestly REALLY uncomfortable to listen to). just so you know, if I could choose between ITAPII and 7 Years to be #1 next week, I'd choose ITAPII as I like it a lot more than 7Y. Unfortunately, even I am saying that realistically ITAPII has very little chance at being #1 at all. That's why my next choice is 7Y followed by NO, with Work at the very bottom because...well I'm sure everyone here knows how I feel about it being #1 this long lol. Funny thing, the coffee shop I'm in now is playing her other song "Stay" (which I'd rather have at #1 than Work). |
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