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Post by Sherane Lamar on Jun 3, 2016 21:16:42 GMT -5
"For Free" by DJ Khaled and "Champions" by Kanye West were released today.
They'll chart on the 25th probably right? Not the 18th?
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jun 3, 2016 21:41:49 GMT -5
Am I the only one who finds "The Voice" vomiting a bunch of one-week-wonders onto the charts every 6 months or so one of the most annoying aspects of the Hot 100? I'm personally kind of glad they aren't charting as high this season. I also feel a little bad for the contestants that win. I mean, they should know by now that that show is never going to produce an artist like Carrie Underwood or Kelly Clarkson. So the best possible outcome for them is releasing a few songs (mostly covers) that are bought for one week each, and then going back to being normal every day people for the rest of their lives. "Do you know who you're talking to? I'm Sawyer Fredericks! I have more songs on the Hot 100 than Jimi Hendricks!" "Yeah, well, your rent was due a month ago Mr. Fredricks. Pack your things and get out or I'm calling the cops." meh Casadee and Melanie are starting to pick up some momentum. Definitely not kelly clarkson level. The winners are not doing the music that people are actually listening to. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 22:12:37 GMT -5
"For Free" by DJ Khaled and "Champions" by Kanye West were released today. They'll chart on the 25th probably right? Not the 18th? yep - if they chart. :) |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 3, 2016 23:14:12 GMT -5
Nothing represents the general public "General Public" - LOL, one of my more favorite Pulse terms, I put it right up there next to "One Hit Wonder" I did enjoy their 1994 hit cover of I'll Take You There. Oh wait, weren't they one hit wonders twice over?!? |
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Post by 85la on Jun 3, 2016 23:42:05 GMT -5
The thing is that people who do well on reality competition singing shows do not automatically translate to superstar recording artists, they are different things. The labels who pick up The Voice winners either must do a really crappy job at marketing them, or for some reason the type of people on that show don't make good pop stars. Someone mentioned American Idol earlier, which does not have a stellar record of their winners turning into superstars either, but they have a much, much better track record than the Voice. The producers of AI and the labels releasing the music are probably fully aware of this, and they do a more seamless job at it. Of course it helped that AI was the #1 show on television for awhile; I don't follow tv ratings as closely as I used to, but I'm assuming The Voice doesn't do as well.
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Post by ry4n on Jun 4, 2016 3:06:15 GMT -5
The Voice/AI are more light entertainment shows. People aren't voting for who they think the most marketable popstar will be. And the audience who watches and votes in these shows isn't the same audience who buys and streams music.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 4, 2016 3:19:41 GMT -5
The contestants are also only covering other songs and there is nothing saying that their original work will be any good.
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Post by Ravi on Jun 4, 2016 4:04:17 GMT -5
Any prediction for where Cheap Thrills could go this week?  Looks to get around 14-14.5k points. Some weeks it's enough to get Top-20, some weeks it's not. I hope it makes it. I would really like it to hit Top-10 in the long run, though that doesn't look likely as of now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 9:09:49 GMT -5
Any news on when One Dance's video is gonna be released? He hasn't said anything. I keep checking to see his Instagram, but he hasn't posted anything regarding that, nor has it been mentioned anywhere, I have no idea why. At this point Drake is toying with us, it's been over a month since he announced the video. Music videos don't take THAT long to make, so I really don't get what the hold up is about. |
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Post by Choco on Jun 4, 2016 11:05:09 GMT -5
Any prediction for where Cheap Thrills could go this week? Looks to get around 14-14.5k points. Some weeks it's enough to get Top-20, some weeks it's not. I hope it makes it. I would really like it to hit Top-10 in the long run, though that doesn't look likely as of now. It's finally increasing fast on Pop radio and will enter the top 10 on iTunes soon (#14 right now). I like it's chances for top 10 right now. |
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Post by Bhad Bill on Jun 4, 2016 11:23:22 GMT -5
Looks to get around 14-14.5k points. Some weeks it's enough to get Top-20, some weeks it's not. I hope it makes it. I would really like it to hit Top-10 in the long run, though that doesn't look likely as of now. It's finally increasing fast on Pop radio and will enter the top 10 on iTunes soon (#14 right now). I like it's chances for top 10 right now. I was gonna say... I would say it's chances are looking good!! Up wit it girl!! |
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Post by NeRD on Jun 4, 2016 12:20:41 GMT -5
Yeah Drake's video release delay is getting ridiculous at this point. I honestly don't expect it to have much of an impact on the song aside from possibily maintaining the huge streaming numbers for a bit longer, but not by much.
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Post by popmusic1 on Jun 4, 2016 14:45:47 GMT -5
YouTube US Weekly ChartStatus: 2016-05-27 – 2016-06-02
| POS | TITLE | ARTIST | TW | LW | CHG | ISRC | | 1 | Panda | Desiigner | 14,597,888 | 17,116,399 | -14.7% | US7VG1610831 | | 2 | Work from Home (feat. Ty Dolla $ign) | Fifth Harmony | 5,909,348 | 5,416,680 | +9.1% | USSM11600251 | | 3 | 7 Years | Lukas Graham | 5,632,721 | 6,274,354 | -10.2% | USWB11506516 | | 4 | Work (feat. Drake) | Rihanna | 4,886,647 | 5,201,494 | -6.1% | QM5FT1600116 | | 5 | Needed Me | Rihanna | 4,367,843 | 4,719,536 | -7.5% | QM5FT1600118 | | 6 | Low Life (feat. The Weeknd) | Future | 4,214,180 | 4,502,887 | -6.4% | USSM11600557 | | 7 | Cut It (feat. Young Dolph) | O.T. Genasis | 3,798,169 | 3,710,558 | +2.4% | USAT21503392 | | 8 | CAN’T STOP THE FEELING! | Justin Timberlake | 3,696,961 | 4,215,743 | -12.3% | USRC11600876 | | 9 | Don’t Let Me Down (feat. Daya) | The Chainsmokers | 3,494,387 | 3,519,451 | -0.7% | USQX91600011 | | 10 | 2 Phones | Kevin Gates | 3,436,354 | 3,809,287 | -9.8% | USAT21503158 | | 11 | Stressed Out | twenty one pilots | 3,380,190 | 3,649,164 | -7.4% | USAT21500597 | | 12 | I Took A Pill In Ibiza (SeeB Remix) | Mike Posner | 3,343,277 | 3,665,930 | -8.8% | USUM71509791 | | 13 | Watch Me (Whip / Nae Nae) | Silento | 3,257,721 | 3,143,649 | +3.6% | USUM71511471 | | 14 | My Boo (Hitman’s Club Mix) | Ghost Town DJ’s | 3,121,336 | 3,553,602 | -12.2% | USSM19600644 | | 15 | Sorry | Justin Bieber | 3,110,975 | 2,993,418 | +3.9% | USUM71516760 | | 16 | oui | Jeremih | 3,008,573 | 3,319,162 | -9.4% | USUM71513397 | | 17 | Uptown Funk (feat. Bruno Mars) | Mark Ronson | 2,958,163 | 2,997,830 | -1.3% | GBARL1401524 | | 18 | Me Too | Meghan Trainor | 2,870,232 | 3,003,608 | -4.4% | USSM11601177 | | 19 | Don’t Mind | Nightcore | 2,768,761 | 2,511,305 | +10.3% | USSM11603011 | | 20 | Wicked | Future | 2,717,697 | 2,682,948 | +1.3% | USUYG1091510 |
Full chart: popruntheworld.pl/zestawienia-muzyczne/usa/youtube-us/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 18:10:24 GMT -5
Am I the only one who finds "The Voice" vomiting a bunch of one-week-wonders onto the charts every 6 months or so one of the most annoying aspects of the Hot 100? Definitely not. I'm with you there |
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Post by felipe on Jun 4, 2016 20:40:36 GMT -5
Nothing represents the general public "General Public" - LOL, one of my more favorite Pulse terms, I put it right up there next to "One Hit Wonder" What do you mean "Pulse terms"? Are you one of those people that insist on the idea that there is no "general public," even though it's still a widely used term, used from marketing executives to performance analysts? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 20:41:06 GMT -5
YouTube US Weekly ChartStatus: 2016-05-27 – 2016-06-02
| POS | TITLE | ARTIST | TW | LW | CHG | ISRC | | 1 | Panda | Desiigner | 14,597,888 | 17,116,399 | -14.7% | US7VG1610831 | | 2 | Work from Home (feat. Ty Dolla $ign) | Fifth Harmony | 5,909,348 | 5,416,680 | +9.1% | USSM11600251 | | 3 | 7 Years | Lukas Graham | 5,632,721 | 6,274,354 | -10.2% | USWB11506516 | | 4 | Work (feat. Drake) | Rihanna | 4,886,647 | 5,201,494 | -6.1% | QM5FT1600116 | | 5 | Needed Me | Rihanna | 4,367,843 | 4,719,536 | -7.5% | QM5FT1600118 | | 6 | Low Life (feat. The Weeknd) | Future | 4,214,180 | 4,502,887 | -6.4% | USSM11600557 | | 7 | Cut It (feat. Young Dolph) | O.T. Genasis | 3,798,169 | 3,710,558 | +2.4% | USAT21503392 | | 8 | CAN’T STOP THE FEELING! | Justin Timberlake | 3,696,961 | 4,215,743 | -12.3% | USRC11600876 | | 9 | Don’t Let Me Down (feat. Daya) | The Chainsmokers | 3,494,387 | 3,519,451 | -0.7% | USQX91600011 | | 10 | 2 Phones | Kevin Gates | 3,436,354 | 3,809,287 | -9.8% | USAT21503158 | | 11 | Stressed Out | twenty one pilots | 3,380,190 | 3,649,164 | -7.4% | USAT21500597 | | 12 | I Took A Pill In Ibiza (SeeB Remix) | Mike Posner | 3,343,277 | 3,665,930 | -8.8% | USUM71509791 | | 13 | Watch Me (Whip / Nae Nae) | Silento | 3,257,721 | 3,143,649 | +3.6% | USUM71511471 | | 14 | My Boo (Hitman’s Club Mix) | Ghost Town DJ’s | 3,121,336 | 3,553,602 | -12.2% | USSM19600644 | | 15 | Sorry | Justin Bieber | 3,110,975 | 2,993,418 | +3.9% | USUM71516760 | | 16 | oui | Jeremih | 3,008,573 | 3,319,162 | -9.4% | USUM71513397 | | 17 | Uptown Funk (feat. Bruno Mars) | Mark Ronson | 2,958,163 | 2,997,830 | -1.3% | GBARL1401524 | | 18 | Me Too | Meghan Trainor | 2,870,232 | 3,003,608 | -4.4% | USSM11601177 | | 19 | Don’t Mind | Nightcore | 2,768,761 | 2,511,305 | +10.3% | USSM11603011 | | 20 | Wicked | Future | 2,717,697 | 2,682,948 | +1.3% | USUYG1091510 |
Full chart: popruntheworld.pl/zestawienia-muzyczne/usa/youtube-us/ I think they got "Don't Mind" mixed up. I'm pretty sure it's the Kent Jones song, not the Nightcore version. that only has very few views. They need to fix that. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 4, 2016 21:02:51 GMT -5
"General Public" - LOL, one of my more favorite Pulse terms, I put it right up there next to "One Hit Wonder" What do you mean "Pulse terms"? Are you one of those people that insist on the idea that there is no "general public," even though it's still a widely used term, used from marketing executives to performance analysts? Initially meant as a joke but...well OK fine... "One Hit Wonder" and "General Public" have one thing in common which is why I tied them together. They are common terms used on this forum but have wide varying meanings that mean different things to different people. In each case, the terms have popular meanings that are used here on this forum. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 4, 2016 21:47:29 GMT -5
"General Public" - LOL, one of my more favorite Pulse terms, I put it right up there next to "One Hit Wonder" What do you mean "Pulse terms"? Are you one of those people that insist on the idea that there is no "general public," even though it's still a widely used term, used from marketing executives to performance analysts? Lmao. Only it's not used by marketing executives and if it is, they need to get out of the 1940s, which was probably the last time there was a "general public." It's like the first rule of marketing: try to target everyone and you'll fail miserably. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 4, 2016 21:53:35 GMT -5
What do you mean "Pulse terms"? Are you one of those people that insist on the idea that there is no "general public," even though it's still a widely used term, used from marketing executives to performance analysts? Lmao. Only it's not used by marketing executives and if it is, they need to get out of the 1940s, which was probably the last time there was a "general public." It's like the first rule of marketing: try to target everyone and you'll fail miserably. Exactly - you put it better than I did. "General Public" used here on Pulse as it applies to music to mean "everyone". In reality, we are talking about very specific demographics in virtually every case. |
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 4, 2016 22:31:11 GMT -5
Oh yay, this topic again. It really is a non-issue. No one here actually thinks general public means everyone. Closer to average music listener. That's still a broad term, sure, but there's truth behind it. An average American music listener knows who Britney Spears is, for example. We all know that the term changes in definition slightly use to use on this site. Context is everything. Getting upset over something so trivial makes me wonder where someone's priorities even are. Let the Pulse language change with itself. It's not completely incorrect.
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Post by Gary on Jun 4, 2016 22:36:28 GMT -5
Who is to say the "average music listener" is familiar or even cares about Britney Spears. The perception of "average" is tied to the person using the term. Because Britney is a Pulse icon, I get that it is perceived that way that the average person knows Britney Spears but that ties back to my first point. The Pulse perception of the general public is skewed towards what is common and natural to the Pulse community, a very specific demographic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 22:51:20 GMT -5
Who is to say the "average music listener" is familiar or even cares about Britney Spears. The perception of "average" is tied to the person using the term. Because Britney is a Pulse icon, I get that it is perceived that way that the average person knows Britney Spears but that ties back to my first point. The Pulse perception of the general public is skewed towards what is common and natural to the Pulse community, a very specific demographic. Wrong! If you don't know who Britney Spears is then you're not the average listener you're below average in awareness or you're someone's grandmother |
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 5, 2016 0:08:52 GMT -5
Knowing who someone is and considering them to be part of the contemporary music scene (i.e. fitting in with the "popular" scene) are 2 different things. You can rattle off names such as Madonna, Bono, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, etc. that most people would know, but who are considered to be part of a "past" scene. Prince, MJ, and Whitney Houston were all in that group too prior to their passing. It's the end destination for all major pop roads.
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Post by forg on Jun 5, 2016 1:38:54 GMT -5
Regarding The Voice not producing any legit recording star, I guess it's the label not really pushing well enough or they just don't have that loyal fanbase. I think the appeal of The Voice these days is its format, which has game show type of appeal, viewers just want to see their favorite coach or contestant win but they're not passionate enough to really follow them afterwards unlike the first 8 seasons of American Idol when they were really on top.
Anyway, X Factor US produced Fifth Harmony and The Sing Off as well has Pentatonix, those shows are nowhere near The Voice's ratings and impact but they have successful acts, so The Voice should eventually find one at some point
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 5, 2016 3:16:54 GMT -5
Everyone knows who Paul McCartney is or The Beatles were. However, the amount of people who actually listens to his music is so much smaller.
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Post by Anticonformity on Jun 5, 2016 3:28:15 GMT -5
Who is to say the "average music listener" is familiar or even cares about Britney Spears. The perception of "average" is tied to the person using the term. Because Britney is a Pulse icon, I get that it is perceived that way that the average person knows Britney Spears but that ties back to my first point. The Pulse perception of the general public is skewed towards what is common and natural to the Pulse community, a very specific demographic. Wrong! If you don't know who Britney Spears is then you're not then average listener you're below average in awareness or you're someone's grandmother Funny enough, the people I work with vary from age of 20s-60s who not only know Britney but love her... #Queen |
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Post by ry4n on Jun 5, 2016 5:05:11 GMT -5
SHAKIRA SHAKIRA
1 year ago (6/20/2015)
1 1 See You Again - Wiz Khalifa feat. Charlie Puth (8th week of 12)
2 2 Bad Blood - Taylor Swift feat. Kendrick Lamar
3 3 Trap Queen - Fetty Wap
4 4 Shut Up And Dance - Walk The Moon
5 7 Want To Want Me - Jason Derulo
6 5 Uptown Funk! - Mark Ronson feat. Bruno Mars
7 6 Earned It (Fifty Shades Of Grey) - The Weeknd
8 8 Hey Mama - David Guetta feat. Nicki Minaj, Bebe Rexha & Afrojack
9 11 Honey, I'm Good. - Andy Grammer
10 9 Sugar - Maroon 5
5 years ago (6/18/2011)
1 1 Rolling In The Deep - Adele (5th week of 7)
2 2 Give Me Everything - Pitbull feat. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer
3 3 E.T. - Katy Perry feat. Kanye West
4 6 The Lazy Song - Bruno Mars
5 4 On The Floor - Jennifer Lopez feat. Pitbull
6 9 Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett & GoonRock
7 8 The Edge Of Glory - Lady Gaga
8 5 Just Can't Get Enough - Black Eyed Peas
9 7 Till The World Ends - Britney Spears
10 12 The Show Goes On - Lupe Fiasco
10 years ago (6/17/2006)
1 9 Hips Don't Lie - Shakira feat. Wyclef Jean (1st week of 2)
2 1 Ridin' - Chamillionaire feat. Krayzie Bone
3 3 Promiscuous - Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland
4 24 It's Goin' Down - Yung Joc
5 2 Bad Day - Daniel Powter
6 4 Where'd You Go - Fort Minor feat. Holly Brook & Jonah Matranga
7 5 SOS - Rihanna
8 6 Me & U - Cassie
9 12 Unfaithful - Rihanna
10 7 Temperature - Sean Paul
15 years ago (6/16/2001)
1 1 Lady Marmalade - Christina Aguilera, Lil Kim, Mya & P!nk (3rd week of 5)
2 3 Hanging By A Moment - Lifehouse
3 2 All For You - Janet Jackson
4 4 Ride Wit Me - Nelly feat. City Spud
5 5 Follow Me - Uncle Kracker
6 10 My Baby - Lil Romeo
7 7 Fiesta - R Kelly feat. Jay-Z
8 8 Get Ur Freak On - Missy Elliott
9 12 Drops Of Jupiter (Tell Me) - Train
10 11 Peaches & Cream - 112
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Post by felipe on Jun 5, 2016 7:07:47 GMT -5
What do you mean "Pulse terms"? Are you one of those people that insist on the idea that there is no "general public," even though it's still a widely used term, used from marketing executives to performance analysts? Lmao. Only it's not used by marketing executives and if it is, they need to get out of the 1940s, which was probably the last time there was a "general public." It's like the first rule of marketing: try to target everyone and you'll fail miserably. General public does not mean everyone, but I guess it does mean trying to reach out to several different demographics and the most people that you can. You can release a documentary about Iris Apfel, which is targeted toward a very specific audience, or you can release a movie like Avatar, in which it's clear they use elements that will help it appeal to several different groups. Not everyone on Earth watched Avatar. But the term general public applies better than trying to find a name for the group which encompasses all the people who did. |
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Post by felipe on Jun 5, 2016 7:21:43 GMT -5
Who is to say the "average music listener" is familiar or even cares about Britney Spears. The perception of "average" is tied to the person using the term. Because Britney is a Pulse icon, I get that it is perceived that way that the average person knows Britney Spears but that ties back to my first point. The Pulse perception of the general public is skewed towards what is common and natural to the Pulse community, a very specific demographic. The "genera public", the "average music listener" or whatever you want to call it does know Britney Spears. Are you really going to debate that? It has nothing to do with her being a Pulse Icon. People who haven't been living under rocks do know about Britney Spears, Eminem, Madonna, Kim Kardashian, Barack Obama or David Letterman. It has nothing to do with actually being interested in them. It has nothing to do with whether they are Pulse icons or not. Some things are just inescapable for someone that has a TV or Internet access. Some people don't, but when the term "average American" is used, it most definitely means someone that has a TV or Internet access. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 5, 2016 7:37:55 GMT -5
Who is to say the "average music listener" is familiar or even cares about Britney Spears. The perception of "average" is tied to the person using the term. Because Britney is a Pulse icon, I get that it is perceived that way that the average person knows Britney Spears but that ties back to my first point. The Pulse perception of the general public is skewed towards what is common and natural to the Pulse community, a very specific demographic. The "genera public", the "average music listener" or whatever you want to call it does know Britney Spears. Are you really going to debate that? It has nothing to do with her being a Pulse Icon. People who haven't been living under rocks do know about Britney Spears, Eminem, Madonna, Kim Kardashian, Barack Obama or David Letterman. It has nothing to do with actually being interested in them. It has nothing to do with whether they are Pulse icons or not. Some things are just inescapable for someone that has a TV or Internet access. Some people don't, but when the term "average American" is used, it most definitely means someone that has a TV or Internet access. Everyone tuned into American pop culture knows and loves certain things I agree. (But that is a specific demographic, which was my original point) But if we look at "average music listener" in general, you have to throw in every country and their vastly different cultures, varying music styles, age groups and even languages. Then if we say the average music listener is quite familiar with Britney Spears and Kim Kardashian, I would have to say that is a bit of a wild assumption. If you narrow it down to specific people, then you just made my point for me. Also if you narrow the scope of what "general public" means, you also made my point. ('General public' means different things to different people). Anyway, my original post from two days ago was meant as a joke, not going to continue in this discussion. ""Everyone who doesn't live under a rock knows Britney Spears and Kim Kardashian", let's just go with that, so we don't clutter up this thread. |
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