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Post by Old-school 72 on Jun 2, 2016 22:57:58 GMT -5
The biggest problem here is if anyone who doesn't care for the same music as the majority who post here, people get offended. I did say the wrong things about Rihanna and Fetty, but I was tired of seeing people jump all over others who have anything negative to say about their songs. Their is no freedom of speech here unless it's agreeing with what you like.
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Post by lyhom on Jun 2, 2016 23:03:31 GMT -5
The biggest problem here is if anyone who doesn't care for the same music as the majority who post here, people get offended. I did say the wrong things about Rihanna and Fetty, but I was tired of seeing people jump all over others who have anything negative to say about their songs. Their is no freedom of speech here unless it's agreeing with what you like. oh the irony people disagreeing with you isn't "having no freedom of speech", it's just that, disagreement. |
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Post by Old-school 72 on Jun 2, 2016 23:03:48 GMT -5
I would like to know how many have actually listened to current country music here. You can't go by what you read on the internet saying it's panned by all these women. When they take surveys , it's usually from a few hundred people if even that many. There are billions of people worldwide so 200 womens opinions don't make a dent. But read the lyrics of Die a happy man by Thomas Rhett or Humble and kind from Tim McGraw before you make judgements.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 2, 2016 23:11:55 GMT -5
What does my screen name have to do with anything. People on here love to start s**t. Yet when someone else doesn't like the same as they do they cry and report it. Can we talk again about how Rihanna is a beat up bitch? |
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Post by MTSChart21 on Jun 2, 2016 23:15:43 GMT -5
Seriously, America, let these two go already. We're sick of them. Obviously not if they're the ones getting hits.  That's what I was thinking too, lol |
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Post by Old-school 72 on Jun 2, 2016 23:23:49 GMT -5
I already said I was wrong with the Rihanna comment yet you wanna hold on to that. Now on with chart stuff. Hope to see more James Bay, Troye Sivan and Lukas Graham in the future.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 2, 2016 23:32:30 GMT -5
So... After a solid year of being pummeled by Drake and Rihanna hits, the only real contenders for #1 are 2 more Rihanna songs, another Drake song, and another duet between the two. Oh yeah, forgot about the current Drake song at the top not leaving anytime soon. Seriously, America, let these two go already. We're sick of them. The market that's still absorbing their hits says otherwise. Additionally, that they perform so strong on streaming, which is actually a more direct measurement of the customer choice in what is listened to, especially says otherwise. In fact, weren't people just a few threads ago drying to minimize Drake's stature due to less pop radio success than some acts? Or those who spent pretty much all of 2015 trying to unsuccessfully lower Rihanna's stature due to, again, not as much pop radio success as in the past? Times are changing folks, get with it. Do you have to like popular music today? Or course not, you don't have to like it as much as anyone who didn't like what was popular and successful 20, 30, 40, or whatever amount of years ago. But to deny its popularity and resonance is pretty much a straight up lie. |
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Post by aser94 on Jun 3, 2016 1:12:01 GMT -5
Anyone know why the most popular Voice finale performance can suddenly only muster a #73 debut when they've been going top 40 for the past few seasons? Not that I'm complaining. [and as someone who lurks more than posts (and usually watches these arguments from the sidelines like  ), I don't mind people voicing their off-the-cuff opinions on the actual music, but when it's something as broad as "music today sucks!" on a forum focusing on contemporary music charts among people who are heavily invested in current music, it's just......truly, what's the point?] |
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Post by lyhom on Jun 3, 2016 1:19:09 GMT -5
just from a quick look at the ratings from wikipedia, apparently the voice is getting slightly lower ratings at time goes on? idk
it's probably more just that digital sales are getting lower tbh
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Post by imbondz on Jun 3, 2016 4:32:47 GMT -5
What does my screen name have to do with anything. People on here love to start s**t. Yet when someone else doesn't like the same as they do they cry and report it. Can we talk again about how Rihanna is a beat up bitch? The comment you made to him was way more offensive and no different than what you are complaining about. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 3, 2016 5:28:51 GMT -5
Birds of a feather flock together!
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Spotify US Top 200 Weekly Streaming Chart 06/02:
Position Track Name Artist Streams
1 One Dance Drake 15874770
2 Panda Desiigner 9093846
3 Needed Me Rihanna 6672358
4 Controlla Drake 6358586
5 Too Good Drake 6243095
6 This Is What You Came For Calvin Harris 6168008
7 Work from Home Fifth Harmony 6162190
8 Don't Let Me Down The Chainsmokers 6103066
9 Pop Style Drake 5791629
10 CAN'T STOP THE FEELING! (Original Song From DreamWorks Animation's "Trolls") Justin Timberlake 5701539
11 I Took A Pill In Ibiza - Seeb Remix Mike Posner 5093302
12 Don't Mind Kent Jones 4447872
13 Dangerous Woman Ariana Grande 4077513
14 Never Forget You Zara Larsson 4027195
15 Cheap Thrills Sia 4013544
16 Low Life Future 3981938
17 Ride Twenty One Pilots 3970947
18 Work Rihanna 3948241
19 Never Be Like You (feat. Kai) Flume 3910297
20 Close Nick Jonas 3893840
21 Middle DJ Snake 3871857
22 Me, Myself & I G-Eazy 3826680
23 Hype Drake 3646116
24 Light It Up (feat. Nyla & Fuse ODG) - Remix Major Lazer 3611019
25 Gold Kiiara 3526457
26 i hate u, i love u (feat. olivia o'brien) gnash 3431813
27 7 Years Lukas Graham 3356930
28 Grammys Drake 3258037
29 My House Flo Rida 3255202
30 oui Jeremih 3142296
31 Cake By The Ocean DNCE 3105046
32 Still Here Drake 3064940
33 Roses The Chainsmokers 3043660
34 Childs Play Drake 3030563
35 Wild Things Alessia Cara 3020728
36 No Money Galantis 2910836
37 Jumpman Drake 2861503
38 Fast Car - Radio Edit Jonas Blue 2824609
39 With You Drake 2817481
40 PILLOWTALK ZAYN 2732497
41 Sex Cheat Codes 2723799
42 Into You Ariana Grande 2629991
43 If It Ain't Love Jason Derulo 2620107
44 Once In A While Timeflies 2614910
45 2 Phones Kevin Gates 2581434
46 Feel No Ways Drake 2550359
47 Uber Everywhere Madeintyo 2517957
48 Stressed Out Twenty One Pilots 2437262
49 Hotline Bling Drake 2404604
50 YOUTH Troye Sivan 2403738
51 9 Drake 2371466
52 Lush Life Zara Larsson 2214041
53 Capsize FRENSHIP 2177621
54 Stay Kygo 2160429
55 Don't Bryson Tiller 2158655
56 Wicked Future 2149696
57 Working For It ZHU 2048984
58 Cut It (feat. Young Dolph) O.T. Genasis 2036356
59 Love Yourself Justin Bieber 2007154
60 Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 1 Kanye West 1996217
61 H.O.L.Y. Florida Georgia Line 1972241
62 Sorry Justin Bieber 1930909
63 No Problem Chance The Rapper 1904626
64 All My Friends Snakehips 1879442
65 Waves Kanye West 1839539
66 U With Me? Drake 1835714
67 Pity Party Melanie Martinez 1821582
68 Exchange Bryson Tiller 1820407
69 Kill Em With Kindness Selena Gomez 1818672
70 Really Really Kevin Gates 1807841
71 LIKE I WOULD ZAYN 1796462
72 Say It (feat. Tove Lo) Flume 1793289
73 No Role Modelz J. Cole 1790997
74 Lost Boy Ruth B 1789166
75 All The Way Up Fat Joe 1784539
76 Fire & Desire Drake 1774502
77 Famous Kanye West 1770981
78 In My Room (feat. Ty Dolla $ign & Tyga) Yellow Claw 1748306
79 Let It Go James Bay 1719903
80 Redemption Drake 1709648
81 This One's For You (feat. Zara Larsson) - Official Song UEFA EURO 2016 David Guetta 1686719
82 Sit Still, Look Pretty Daya 1626451
83 Wherever I Go OneRepublic 1607546
84 Weston Road Flows Drake 1574291
85 The Hills The Weeknd 1573219
86 Come and See Me (feat. Drake) PARTYNEXTDOOR 1558914
87 Keep The Family Close Drake 1558574
88 White Iverson Post Malone 1551950
89 Mixtape Chance The Rapper 1538080
90 Faithful Drake 1537781
91 Summer Sixteen Drake 1527872
92 Send My Love (To Your New Lover) Adele 1518542
93 Please Don't Go Joel Adams 1476346
94 Go Flex Post Malone 1467263
95 Views Drake 1460022
96 Rock Bottom Hailee Steinfeld 1440031
97 No Broken Hearts (feat. Nicki Minaj) Bebe Rexha 1432046
98 Die A Happy Man Thomas Rhett 1426445
99 NO Meghan Trainor 1426230
100 Bang My Head (feat. Sia & Fetty Wap) David Guetta 1421206
101 All In My Head (Flex) Fifth Harmony 1412566
102 Wake Up Fetty Wap 1412117
103 Money Longer Lil Uzi Vert 1397094
104 Faded Alan Walker 1383920
105 Angels (feat. Saba) Chance The Rapper 1338187
106 Running Out Matoma 1325321
107 What Do You Mean? Justin Bieber 1322957
108 679 (feat. Remy Boyz) Fetty Wap 1319871
109 All We Got Chance The Rapper 1319693
110 Lean On (feat. MΓΛ & DJ Snake) Major Lazer 1316013
111 Broccoli D.R.A.M. 1308388
112 Look Alive Rae Sremmurd 1307636
113 Ophelia The Lumineers 1296070
114 Antidote Travi$ Scott 1290974
115 Can't Feel My Face The Weeknd 1269956
116 Let Me Love You Ariana Grande 1259637
117 Trap Queen Fetty Wap 1235872
118 Juke Jam Chance The Rapper 1227589
119 Just Like Fire (From the Original Motion Picture "Alice Through The Looking Glass") P!nk 1218151
120 Blessings Chance The Rapper 1212533
121 Digits Young Thug 1207949
122 Back To Back Drake 1187857
123 Pt. 2 Kanye West 1180224
124 Promise Kid Ink 1166694
125 Down In the DM Yo Gotti 1157169
126 Stitches Shawn Mendes 1151023
127 Moolah Young Greatness 1143204
128 My Boo - Hitman's Club Mix Ghost Town DJs 1137225
129 T-Shirt Thomas Rhett 1134446
130 THat Part ScHoolboy Q 1133073
131 Hollow Tori Kelly 1129871
132 Side To Side Ariana Grande 1128726
133 Be Alright Ariana Grande 1128025
134 Big Rings Drake 1124047
135 I Mean It G-Eazy 1120794
136 Summers Over Interlude Drake 1118682
137 Hello Adele 1116238
138 Summer Friends Chance The Rapper 1116126
139 Sound Of Your Heart Shawn Hook 1099518
140 Sorry Not Sorry Bryson Tiller 1099388
141 Saved (feat. E-40) Ty Dolla $ign 1096211
142 All Night Chance The Rapper 1091903
143 Hide Away Daya 1091723
144 Where Ya At Future 1078629
145 Me Too Meghan Trainor 1072162
146 Hands To Myself Selena Gomez 1055905
147 Came Here to Forget Blake Shelton 1052234
148 Wet Dreamz J. Cole 1040441
149 Kiss It Better Rihanna 1028230
150 Body Dreezy 1022961
151 A Tale of 2 Citiez J. Cole 1020138
152 Snapback Old Dominion 1017029
153 Pull Up (feat. Lil Uzi Vert) Wiz Khalifa 1016322
154 Calm Down G-Eazy 1015376
155 Again Fetty Wap 1010751
156 All The Way Up (Remix) Fat Joe 1000449
157 F*ck Up Some Commas Future 992802
158 Ultralight Beam Kanye West 988764
159 You Was Right Lil Uzi Vert 987137
160 Why You Always Hatin? YG 982787
161 Valet (feat. Fetty Wap and 2 Chainz) Eric Bellinger 982762
162 Same Drugs Chance The Rapper 981140
163 Smoke Break Chance The Rapper 979948
164 Say It Tory Lanez 975455
165 Might Not Belly 969867
166 New Level A$AP Ferg 961011
167 One Night (Extended) Lil Yachty 960142
168 Addicted to My Ex M-City J.R. 957947
169 Thinking Out Loud Ed Sheeran 955397
170 MY PYT Wale 950115
171 Acquainted The Weeknd 940799
172 See You Again (feat. Charlie Puth) - From "Furious 7" Wiz Khalifa 931558
173 Planez Jeremih 919497
174 I Like The Sound Of That Rascal Flatts 910433
175 Energy Drake 907074
176 Where Are ΓΕ Now (with Justin Bieber) Jack ΓΕ 896116
177 Somewhere On A Beach Dierks Bentley 887672
178 Company Justin Bieber 885402
179 Ni**as In Paris JAY Z 880596
180 Head Over Boots Jon Pardi 870284
181 Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh) Rich Homie Quan 863589
182 Greedy Ariana Grande 860362
183 Photograph Ed Sheeran 859172
184 Make You Miss Me Sam Hunt 856342
185 Often The Weeknd 856130
186 American Country Love Song Jake Owen 853279
187 Think of You (Duet with Cassadee Pope) Chris Young 849931
188 Watch Out 2 Chainz 848922
189 Everyday Ariana Grande 841824
190 Tennessee Whiskey Chris Stapleton 841671
191 Legend Drake 839186
192 The Sound Of Silence Disturbed 835035
193 Huntin', Fishin' And Lovin' Every Day Luke Bryan 833575
194 Humble And Kind Tim McGraw 828773
195 G.O.M.D. J. Cole 825919
196 Sugar Maroon 5 822925
197 F**kin' Problems A$AP Rocky 821749
198 FML Kanye West 817483
199 Earned It (Fifty Shades Of Grey) The Weeknd 814476
200 Sugar (feat. Francesco Yates) Robin Schulz 812840
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Post by rimetm on Jun 3, 2016 7:26:44 GMT -5
Anyone know why the most popular Voice finale performance can suddenly only muster a #73 debut when they've been going top 40 for the past few seasons? Not that I'm complaining. Regarding Voice, one of the factors in interest is whether the mainstream press finds a reason to care enough to fight against the general waning sales and interest. The season that Josh Kaufman won, no one really did and nothing cracked the zone. The next season, where they introduced music videos for finalists, got press hype and more streams, allowing for two top 40s. Some residual interest gave Sawyer Fredericks a top 40 in the next season but overall track performance was notably lower. Jordan Smith got big press from the start and got boatloads of attention along with multiple top 40s, but it was clearly the exception proving the rule, as no other contestant even got close. With this season, nothing was all that noteworthy from anyone, so no one got a track in the zone and barely anything hit the Hot 100 at all. |
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Post by missgenericnickname on Jun 3, 2016 10:00:50 GMT -5
RIP the Hot 100 threads on the actual topic again
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Post by imbondz on Jun 3, 2016 10:15:06 GMT -5
Anyone know why the most popular Voice finale performance can suddenly only muster a #73 debut when they've been going top 40 for the past few seasons? Not that I'm complaining. Regarding Voice, one of the factors in interest is whether the mainstream press finds a reason to care enough to fight against the general waning sales and interest. The season that Josh Kaufman won, no one really did and nothing cracked the zone. The next season, where they introduced music videos for finalists, got press hype and more streams, allowing for two top 40s. Some residual interest gave Sawyer Fredericks a top 40 in the next season but overall track performance was notably lower. Jordan Smith got big press from the start and got boatloads of attention along with multiple top 40s, but it was clearly the exception proving the rule, as no other contestant even got close. With this season, nothing was all that noteworthy from anyone, so no one got a track in the zone and barely anything hit the Hot 100 at all. The Voice's problem is they have yet to produce a star. Only one close is Cassaddee Pope and she barely makes a dent. Too bad too cause she is ridiculously talented. Its ridiculous that labels don't throw tons of marketing to Voice and AI finalists. Makes no sense to me how there aren't more / bigger stars from those shows. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Jun 3, 2016 10:33:51 GMT -5
Regarding Voice, one of the factors in interest is whether the mainstream press finds a reason to care enough to fight against the general waning sales and interest. The season that Josh Kaufman won, no one really did and nothing cracked the zone. The next season, where they introduced music videos for finalists, got press hype and more streams, allowing for two top 40s. Some residual interest gave Sawyer Fredericks a top 40 in the next season but overall track performance was notably lower. Jordan Smith got big press from the start and got boatloads of attention along with multiple top 40s, but it was clearly the exception proving the rule, as no other contestant even got close. With this season, nothing was all that noteworthy from anyone, so no one got a track in the zone and barely anything hit the Hot 100 at all. The Voice's problem is they have yet to produce a star. Only one close is Cassaddee Pope and she barely makes a dent. Too bad too cause she is ridiculously talented. Its ridiculous that labels don't throw tons of marketing to Voice and AI finalists. Makes no sense to me how there aren't more / bigger stars from those shows. Melanie is starting to make a name for herself . She wasn't a winner but made top 7 cassadees season. Her album has sold a little more than cassadees did but she's still waiting to have a single breakthrough |
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Post by Kworb on Jun 3, 2016 11:49:28 GMT -5
Sales estimates 1. Can't Stop The Feeling! 176,000 2. One Dance 118,000 3. Just Like Fire 94,000 4. Don't Let Me Down 83,000 5. Panda 83,000 6. H.O.L.Y. 77,000 7. This Is What You Came For 75,000 8. Work From Home 71,000 9. Lost Boy 61,000 10. 7 Years 60,000 11. Sorry 56,000 12. Cheap Thrills 52,000 13. I Took A Pill In Ibiza 52,000 14. Send My Love (To Your New Lover) 45,000 15. Somewhere On A Beach 44,000 16. Dangerous Woman 43,000 17. Ride 42,000 18. Me Too 42,000 19. Close 42,000 20. My House 40,000 21. The Sound Of Silence 40,000 22. Formation 39,000 23. Needed Me 38,000 kworb.net/cc |
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Post by Ravi on Jun 3, 2016 13:12:52 GMT -5
Predictions: | Rank | Song | Sales | Airplay | Streams | Points | | 1 | One Dance | 115 | 145 | 27.5 | 50,200 | | 2/3 | Panda | 80 | 70 | 34.5 | 44,700 | | 2/3 | Can't Stop The Feeling | 170 | 150 | 13.0 | 44,700 | | 4/5 | Work From Home | 70 | 105 | 16.5 | 32,000 | | 4/5 | Don't Let Me Down | 80 | 110 | 14.5 | 32,000 | | 6 | 7 Years | 60 | 100 | 13.0 | 27,500 | | 7 | I Took A Pill in Ibiza | 50 | 100 | 11.5 | 25,100 | | 8 | This is What You Came For | 70 | 65 | 10.0 | 22,600 | | 9 | Needed Me | 35 | 40 | 16.0 | 21,200 | | 10-12 | Dangerous Woman | 40 | 75 | 9.5 | 19,900 | | 10-12 | Just Like Fire | 90 | 60 | 4.5 | 19,800 | | 10-12 | Work | 20 | 50 | 15.0 | 19,700 |
* Some pretty tight battles this week, beginning with Panda and CSTF for #2. Panda has now started declining in streaming in earnest (while CSTF also keeps declining, albeit at a lower pace). * Next battle is between WFH and DLMD for the #4 spot. For the past two weeks, the two songs have virtually tied in points, with WFH *barely* coming ahead. * Last but not the least, is the battle for #10 spot between the three divas..... I won't be surprised if Work manages to hold on for one more week, making it three songs in the Top-10 for Rihanna, as TIWYCF will also be returning to Top-10. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 3, 2016 13:46:07 GMT -5
Any prediction for where Cheap Thrills could go this week?  |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 3, 2016 13:46:40 GMT -5
So... After a solid year of being pummeled by Drake and Rihanna hits, the only real contenders for #1 are 2 more Rihanna songs, another Drake song, and another duet between the two. Oh yeah, forgot about the current Drake song at the top not leaving anytime soon. Seriously, America, let these two go already. We're sick of them. The market that's still absorbing their hits says otherwise. Additionally, that they perform so strong on streaming, which is actually a more direct measurement of the customer choice in what is listened to, especially says otherwise. In fact, weren't people just a few threads ago drying to minimize Drake's stature due to less pop radio success than some acts? Or those who spent pretty much all of 2015 trying to unsuccessfully lower Rihanna's stature due to, again, not as much pop radio success as in the past? Times are changing folks, get with it. Do you have to like popular music today? Or course not, you don't have to like it as much as anyone who didn't like what was popular and successful 20, 30, 40, or whatever amount of years ago. But to deny its popularity and resonance is pretty much a straight up lie. Streaming is a great direct measure, but while it's still increasing, in general it still represents a certain demo or two more than it represents the general population. |
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Post by Caviar on Jun 3, 2016 14:10:02 GMT -5
All metrics represent a certain demo though.
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Post by Mike is BAD on Jun 3, 2016 14:52:35 GMT -5
Any prediction for where Cheap Thrills could go this week? Probably Top 20. |
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Post by felipe on Jun 3, 2016 15:36:23 GMT -5
All metrics represent a certain demo though. But airplay tends to represent more the "general public" than streaming, doesn't it? Ask a random person on the street and they'll probably be aware of the song that was getting 200 million in airplay, but they might not be aware of the #1 streaming song, which 10 million teenagers played on their cell phones. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 3, 2016 15:39:43 GMT -5
Nothing represents the general public
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jun 3, 2016 15:47:04 GMT -5
Any news on when One Dance's video is gonna be released?
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 3, 2016 15:58:35 GMT -5
All metrics represent a certain demo though. Which is why Billboard uses three different metrics. I never said otherwise. |
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Post by ry4n on Jun 3, 2016 16:10:30 GMT -5
Nothing represents the general public We should get everyone in the country to make a personal chart and submit them to Billboard. That'd be the most representative. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Jun 3, 2016 16:14:32 GMT -5
Nothing represents the general public We should get everyone in the country to make a personal chart and submit them to Billboard. That'd be the most representative. In Soviet Russia, chart personalizes you. High airplay does indeed reach more people, which is why a song getting 200m AI gets more chart points from that that a song getting 10 million streams will from just that factor. For the record, the airplay audience is based on a preset calculation on how much a spin on that station is expected to get, so even with that, streaming in itself is the most accurate of what is actually being listened to. |
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Jun 3, 2016 21:03:09 GMT -5
Am I the only one who finds "The Voice" vomiting a bunch of one-week-wonders onto the charts every 6 months or so one of the most annoying aspects of the Hot 100? I'm personally kind of glad they aren't charting as high this season.
I also feel a little bad for the contestants that win. I mean, they should know by now that that show is never going to produce an artist like Carrie Underwood or Kelly Clarkson. So the best possible outcome for them is releasing a few songs (mostly covers) that are bought for one week each, and then going back to being normal every day people for the rest of their lives.
"Do you know who you're talking to? I'm Sawyer Fredericks! I have more songs on the Hot 100 than Jimi Hendricks!"
"Yeah, well, your rent was due a month ago Mr. Fredricks. Pack your things and get out or I'm calling the cops."
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Post by Gary on Jun 3, 2016 21:05:56 GMT -5
Nothing represents the general public "General Public" - LOL, one of my more favorite Pulse terms, I put it right up there next to "One Hit Wonder" |
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