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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 22, 2018 22:56:50 GMT -5
I don’t know if the Oscars work similarly to the Grammys but submitting three songs isn’t going to shoot themselves in the foot, is it?
I don’t even know which of the three I’d want nominated. Shallow is the most known one, I’ll Never Love Again is the most traditional and Always Remember Us This Way is probably my favourite one.
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Post by dwhite725 on Oct 23, 2018 1:57:39 GMT -5
I don’t know if the Oscars work similarly to the Grammys but submitting three songs isn’t going to shoot themselves in the foot, is it? I don’t even know which of the three I’d want nominated. Shallow is the most known one, I’ll Never Love Again is the most traditional and Always Remember Us This Way is probably my favourite one. Its hard to say. A lot of submissions are tossed out bc they don’t reflect the movie enough. Dream girls had 3 nominated songs. I forget what won that year. The Bodyguard has 2 nominations. I don’t even know what the competition is this year. I guess Blank Panther. I think it’s hard to not submit multiple songs when the movie is a musical(this technically isn’t). It also ups the stats when it comes to lauding the film for the nominations it gets. I don’t think vote-splitting really affects nominees here compared to the Grammys. I also don’t feel like it’s a popularity contest in this category either for the Oscars |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 3:34:15 GMT -5
I don’t know if the Oscars work similarly to the Grammys but submitting three songs isn’t going to shoot themselves in the foot, is it? I don’t even know which of the three I’d want nominated. Shallow is the most known one, I’ll Never Love Again is the most traditional and Always Remember Us This Way is probably my favourite one. "Beauty and the Beast" (the song) won despite the movie having three out of the five nomination spots. It's not an issue, it really just depends on what else is going on that year and whether or not any of the submitted songs are a defining moment in the movie. Dreamgirls and Bodyguard for example were both mainly done in by their biggest musical moments being cover songs which were ineligible for nomination. Oscar voters are much less likely than Grammy voters to prioritize awarding the film/person over awarding the 'correct' song - i.e. they weren't going to hand an award to I Have Nothing or Run To You just b/c they couldn't cast a vote for IWALY. They seem to really put emphasis on the impact a song had on the film's overall message instead of just gravitating to the most well-known songs...although ironically this seems to be the reason highly recognizable Disney tunes tend to do so well. Dreamgirls' three nominations lost to "I Need To Wake Up" from An Inconvenient Truth - that was at the time Hollywood first started paying attention to environmental issues, so Al Gore's documentary was going to hold more weight than the b-sides from a film adaptation of a Broadway musical. The two Bodyguard nominations meanwhile lost to "A Whole New World" from Aladdin (which also had two nominated songs that year). Incidentally, AWNW is the song that replaced IWALY at #1 on the Hot 100 and so far remains the only Disney song to ever reach #1. Though I assume that didn't factor into the win, it speaks to how monumental that song was that year, even by Disney standards. IWALY was the only thing that could have possibly competed with it, but it wasn't allowed to compete, so. Anyway, none of these things will be an issue for Gaga. As far as I know there are no political/social commentary heavy-hitters, and no big Disney movie to contend with this year. Her only real threat will be All The Stars and Pray For Me from the Black Panther soundtrack...I can't think of anything else notable except for Love Lies, and that's highly unlikely to get nominated. (I could be wrong but I don't think Love, Simon was a big enough movie for that many people to want to go out of the way and recognize its music.) |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 23, 2018 5:01:35 GMT -5
I'm a HUUUUUGE Gaga stan, well duh, but somehow I wish that All the Stars wins the Oscar for best song.. IF ASIB can get success in other categories. ATS is simply outstanding, even more so than Shallow.
ASIB vs. BP is interesting to watch in all categories.
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Post by kmbgs on Oct 23, 2018 8:19:47 GMT -5
Shallow is this year’s winner of the Oscar for Best Original Song.
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Gold Derby Oscars Best Picture race: ‘A Star is Born’ and ‘Roma’ remain tied for lead with 7/1 odds
Paul Sheehan October 23, 2018 www.goldderby.com/article/2018/oscars-best-picture-predictions-a-star-is-born-roma-news/“A Star is Born” and “Roma” lead the Best Picture race according to the predictions of the 25 Oscar Experts at Gold Derby. Bradley Cooper‘s remake of the Hollywood classic has the backing of 13 of our industry insiders while 11 are forecasting a win for Alfonso Cuaron‘s family drama. Tim Gray of Variety is predicting that “Black Panther” will pull off an upset. While “A Star is Born” has the edge among total number of experts, it is tied with “Roma” with odds of 7/1 to win Best Picture. That is because the latter is ranked slightly higher overall. Those rankings are why four films — “Green Book” (17/2), “First Man” and “The Favourite” (9/1), and “If Beale Street Could Talk” (10/1) — all have better odds than “Black Panther” at 12/1. See the most up-to-date Best Picture rankings by our 25 Experts. “A Star is Born” and “Roma” have been trading off first place since they screened at the Venice film festival. They displaced early frontrunner Spike Lee‘s “BlacKkKlansman,” which is now down in eighth place. Buoyed by its popular choice wins at the Toronto and Middleburg film festivals “Green Book” is up in third. |
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Post by collegedropout on Oct 23, 2018 15:52:03 GMT -5
I don’t know if the Oscars work similarly to the Grammys but submitting three songs isn’t going to shoot themselves in the foot, is it? I don’t even know which of the three I’d want nominated. Shallow is the most known one, I’ll Never Love Again is the most traditional and Always Remember Us This Way is probably my favourite one. "Beauty and the Beast" (the song) won despite the movie having three out of the five nomination spots. It's not an issue, it really just depends on what else is going on that year and whether or not any of the submitted songs are a defining moment in the movie. Dreamgirls and Bodyguard for example were both mainly done in by their biggest musical moments being cover songs which were ineligible for nomination. Oscar voters are much less likely than Grammy voters to prioritize awarding the film/person over awarding the 'correct' song - i.e. they weren't going to hand an award to I Have Nothing or Run To You just b/c they couldn't cast a vote for IWALY. They seem to really put emphasis on the impact a song had on the film's overall message instead of just gravitating to the most well-known songs...although ironically this seems to be the reason highly recognizable Disney tunes tend to do so well. Dreamgirls' three nominations lost to "I Need To Wake Up" from An Inconvenient Truth - that was at the time Hollywood first started paying attention to environmental issues, so Al Gore's documentary was going to hold more weight than the b-sides from a film adaptation of a Broadway musical. The two Bodyguard nominations meanwhile lost to "A Whole New World" from Aladdin (which also had two nominated songs that year). Incidentally, AWNW is the song that replaced IWALY at #1 on the Hot 100 and so far remains the only Disney song to ever reach #1. Though I assume that didn't factor into the win, it speaks to how monumental that song was that year, even by Disney standards. IWALY was the only thing that could have possibly competed with it, but it wasn't allowed to compete, so. Anyway, none of these things will be an issue for Gaga. As far as I know there are no political/social commentary heavy-hitters, and no big Disney movie to contend with this year. Her only real threat will be All The Stars and Pray For Me from the Black Panther soundtrack...I can't think of anything else notable except for Love Lies, and that's highly unlikely to get nominated. (I could be wrong but I don't think Love, Simon was a big enough movie for that many people to want to go out of the way and recognize its music.) I've read that only "All The Stars" is being submitted. Which is interesting as it doesn't really play a major role in the film. Also many are predciting whatever songs come out of Mary Poppins to be a big threat. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 16:39:16 GMT -5
I've read that only "All The Stars" is being submitted. Which is interesting as it doesn't really play a major role in the film. Also many are predciting whatever songs come out of Mary Poppins to be a big threat. That is interesting - if only sending one song you'd think BP would go with Pray For Me, since that was actually used in the movie. I had forgotten Mary Poppins was slated for the end of this year...well, really I'd forgotten it was happening at all. I see Marc Shaiman is handling the music, and if his track record is any indication he's a bit more likely to get nominated for his scoring than for Original Song (and he has yet to win an Oscar for anything). |
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Post by dwhite725 on Oct 24, 2018 0:54:34 GMT -5
Best song is a tricky category really. The Bodyguard and Dreamgirls would have won no question if IWALY or And I Am Telling You were allowed. The winner in best song is technically supposed to reflect the movie as a whole I believe. Disney animated movies were practically unstoppable in the early 90s after what they did with the Little Mermaid. I wasn’t shocked by no Dreamgirls win as Listen was the easiest bet, but was likely hurt by all the Beyoncé writing credit disaster.
I think ASIB has better chances than both Bodyguard and Dreamgirls. I didn’t think about Poppins, but it better be good all around. Otherwise, I don’t see it getting a slot.
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Post by gbaby on Oct 24, 2018 8:32:06 GMT -5
Just watched ASIB. I know I have always known how magical her voice is, but wow, hearing it all throughout the movie just blew me away. Loooooved it.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 25, 2018 1:03:26 GMT -5
How many times have you seen ASIB already? I have twice and planning to watch it at least one more time.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 25, 2018 6:17:11 GMT -5
Only 4
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Oct 25, 2018 10:22:30 GMT -5
I don’t know if the Oscars work similarly to the Grammys but submitting three songs isn’t going to shoot themselves in the foot, is it? I don’t even know which of the three I’d want nominated. Shallow is the most known one, I’ll Never Love Again is the most traditional and Always Remember Us This Way is probably my favourite one. "Beauty and the Beast" (the song) won despite the movie having three out of the five nomination spots. It's not an issue, it really just depends on what else is going on that year and whether or not any of the submitted songs are a defining moment in the movie. Dreamgirls and Bodyguard for example were both mainly done in by their biggest musical moments being cover songs which were ineligible for nomination. Oscar voters are much less likely than Grammy voters to prioritize awarding the film/person over awarding the 'correct' song - i.e. they weren't going to hand an award to I Have Nothing or Run To You just b/c they couldn't cast a vote for IWALY. They seem to really put emphasis on the impact a song had on the film's overall message instead of just gravitating to the most well-known songs...although ironically this seems to be the reason highly recognizable Disney tunes tend to do so well. Dreamgirls' three nominations lost to "I Need To Wake Up" from An Inconvenient Truth - that was at the time Hollywood first started paying attention to environmental issues, so Al Gore's documentary was going to hold more weight than the b-sides from a film adaptation of a Broadway musical. The two Bodyguard nominations meanwhile lost to "A Whole New World" from Aladdin (which also had two nominated songs that year). Incidentally, AWNW is the song that replaced IWALY at #1 on the Hot 100 and so far remains the only Disney song to ever reach #1. Though I assume that didn't factor into the win, it speaks to how monumental that song was that year, even by Disney standards. IWALY was the only thing that could have possibly competed with it, but it wasn't allowed to compete, so. Anyway, none of these things will be an issue for Gaga. As far as I know there are no political/social commentary heavy-hitters, and no big Disney movie to contend with this year. Her only real threat will be All The Stars and Pray For Me from the Black Panther soundtrack...I can't think of anything else notable except for Love Lies, and that's highly unlikely to get nominated. (I could be wrong but I don't think Love, Simon was a big enough movie for that many people to want to go out of the way and recognize its music.) The Lion King also got 3 nominations and still won that night. It’s very common. I don’t see anything stopping Shallow. It’s just too good and it made an impact, plus the film is a hit. |
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Post by Albie on Oct 25, 2018 12:43:48 GMT -5
So, for the Grammys they only submitted "Shallow" though, right?
I read that it was submitted for Record of the Year, Song of the Year, Best Pop Duo/Group and Best Song Written for Visual Media. But I don't recall seeing anything for "I'll Never Love Again" or "Always Remember Us This Way".
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Post by AP on Oct 25, 2018 13:35:08 GMT -5
So, for the Grammys they only submitted "Shallow" though, right? Shallow was the only song from the film that was released before the Grammy eligibility period |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 25, 2018 19:06:58 GMT -5
Which means Gaga dominates the Grammys back-to-back years!
(jk - wishful thinking)
But it also means we're unlikely to get new Gaga until at least October of next year if they care about the Grammys.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Oct 25, 2018 19:41:37 GMT -5
Which means Gaga dominates the Grammys back-to-back years! (jk - wishful thinking) But it also means we're unlikely to get new Gaga until at least October of next year if they care about the Grammys. I really hope Always Remember Us This Way gets some recognition next year. It is divine. Such a beautiful song and melody. |
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Post by Albie on Oct 26, 2018 8:06:42 GMT -5
Which means Gaga dominates the Grammys back-to-back years! (jk - wishful thinking) But it also means we're unlikely to get new Gaga until at least October of next year if they care about the Grammys. I really hope Always Remember Us This Way gets some recognition next year. It is divine. Such a beautiful song and melody. lbr that whole soundtrack is on point. The bitch delivered. Like, my wig is still in shambles |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Oct 26, 2018 8:57:00 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Oct 26, 2018 9:18:47 GMT -5
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Post by Zeebz on Oct 26, 2018 13:42:27 GMT -5
Didn’t think I could love her any more than I already did, but after seeing the film and keeping the soundtrack on repeat for the rest of the week I’m obsessed all over again. Each listen seems to bring new favorites (currently stuck on “Heal Me” and “Is That Alright?” - the latter of which is absolutely a career highlight) and I’m just so proud of her. She did the damn thing.
Thrilled to see this project smashing. She deserves every bit of success that she’s seeing with it and in general. Hoping that she can win big at the Oscars. Regardless, she’s doing a wonderful job at cementing her legacy, which was already quite strong.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 26, 2018 14:03:59 GMT -5
I really hope Always Remember Us This Way gets some recognition next year. It is divine. Such a beautiful song and melody. It's already top ten in Ireland and top 30 in the UK so it's doing amazingly well for a soundtrack cut. |
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Post by Albie on Oct 26, 2018 14:26:54 GMT -5
Zeebz STAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's so fitting that a decade into her career she's having arguably one of her biggest years ever. I am so in love with her right now its not even funny. When you look back on what she's done to get here so far, it seems so smart and so…I wanna say effortless…for lack of a better word, even though I know it was anything but. She's become ubiquitous once again and, if possible, to an even bigger degree. She cast her net wider and wider and it just continues to catch. She went from a Jazz album with Tony Bennett (snatching a Grammy and another #1 album, mind you), to slaying at the 87th Oscars with her Julie Andrews tribute, to her little cameo in Sin City, stayed on Oscar's radar thanks to her "Til It Happens to You" nomination and performance at the 88th Oscars, starred in American Horror Story: Hotel (snatching a Golden Globe along the way), sang the national anthem at Super Bowl 50, shared in the David Bowie tribute at the 58th Grammys, featured in American Horror Story: Roanoke, released Joanne (4th #1 album this decade), headlined Superbowl 51 (snagged Emmy's attention for it), began filming A Star is Born, headlined Coachella, Joanne World Tour, Netflix documentary, announces 2-year Vegas residency, A Star is Born is released and tops the box office, will begin her Vegas residency, Lady Gaga Enigma, at the end of this year, will co-host the 2019 Met Gala because DUH, and will likely go on to be nominated for at least one Oscar in 2019. And I'm not even mentioning the endless magazine covers, features and specials. And unfortunately that Emmy has eluded her so far (I'm still mad about TIHTY), but, come on! Who is this incredible woman? pfft...and to think people counted her out after Artpop. Bitch hadn't even gotten started. 
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 26, 2018 14:45:28 GMT -5
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Post by deepston on Oct 26, 2018 16:06:41 GMT -5
What a legend, this woman is the most versatile artist of our times.
Listening to "I'll Never Love Again" makes me teary-eyed all the time and I still didn't watch the movie. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if that song ends up being a classic like "My Heart Will Go On".
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Post by Albie on Oct 26, 2018 16:12:00 GMT -5
What a legend, this woman is the most versatile artist of our times. Listening to "I'll Never Love Again" makes me teary-eyed all the time and I still didn't watch the movie. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if that song ends up being a classic like "My Heart Will Go On". oh my god you're gonna need Kleenex within reach when you listen to it after seeing the movie. :'( :'( :'( |
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Post by deepston on Oct 26, 2018 16:14:36 GMT -5
What a legend, this woman is the most versatile artist of our times. Listening to "I'll Never Love Again" makes me teary-eyed all the time and I still didn't watch the movie. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if that song ends up being a classic like "My Heart Will Go On". oh my god you're gonna need Kleenex within reach when you listen to it after seeing the movie.  I want to see it so damn much but cinema in the Netherlands is expensive af. I'll wait until I go back to Portugal in December or until I can see it online :'( |
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Post by collegedropout on Oct 26, 2018 17:11:52 GMT -5
Like Beyonce in 2013, Gaga is kind of in her own lane now. I've always liked her, but I think I'm starting to stan lol.
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