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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 20:55:26 GMT -5
some early game reads: Lean town: mylo, sercies Neutral: caged, PREDS Lean scum: Kelly, Nose Rylund can you elaborate on this |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 17, 2018 22:14:33 GMT -5
Nose just breezed through to say he's going to bookmark the thread, then leave; that feels a bit odd. clarification: it feels a bit odd that he had time to post, but didn't use that time to comment on any of the conversation above him, even briefly. More or less just to remind myself to go back and re-read later as that post was made as I was rushing breakfast and getting ready for work. I'm least productive then because I'm always late for everything anyway. So we have: wob - newbie, new to everything and everyone unless a dupe Cynthia/Kelly's 10th fan - regular player Sercies - regular player Myloninja - newish? I forget if I've played a game with him before Juggalo - same. Though I played with him slightly in Big Brother and I know he has a lot of passion so I'll be watching him closely. Pred - don't think I've played with him before Me So there are 7 players. I'm going to guess there are 2 scum and 5 town. It's a closed setup but with only 7 player, I'm going to guess that there's not enough for anything more than that, in the way of independents and whatever. Maybe Sercies (can I just call you kunt or is that completely passed?) can shed some light on this. My general approach to these games tends to be to assume everyone is scum unless they can convince me otherwise. In a situation where everyone is on equal footing, as tends to be the case at the start of the first day phase, I like to lean toward voting out the least useful players. With that out of the way, my only real impression so far is on Wob, who is active but seems really anxious to make someone/anyone a target. |
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Post by wob on Sept 18, 2018 0:28:51 GMT -5
some early game reads: Lean town: mylo, sercies Neutral: caged, PREDS Lean scum: Kelly, Nose Rylund can you elaborate on this sure Mylo: Very active, got the ball rolling and made some decent insights at the start of the game. Town lean. Sercies: Has been pressuring people and asking some good questions overall. Would like to hear more of their own thoughts on the game so far but in general seems town. PREDS: Only one short post about not knowing what to do, which doesn't seem alignment indicative at all to me. Caged: Don't see a lot to read into here either, but looking back at his posts it does seem a little odd that he had time to mess around at the start of the game during RVS but hasn't really posted since. Kelly: Mostly put them as lean scum because their wording when asking why they were seen as scum came off as odd and they were acting a little weird in general. Their answer to my question makes sense though. Nose Rylund: Only person I'd say I really scumread so far. I can't help but feel that him lynching me and saying that I'm "anxious to make someone/anyone a target" (which makes little sense, I haven't pressured anyone) is just a panicky response to me RVSing him at the start of the game and staying on him. Outside of that, the post about bookmarking this thread comes off as odd to me. I know he said that it was to remind him to come back and read the thread later, but I don't see how simply posting would achieve that. Seems like filler / trying to appear active to me. His latest post was alright but I would've liked to see some more actual comments on the current game state and first 2 or 3 pages. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 18, 2018 6:33:42 GMT -5
One thing to remind you is that scum can be active and helpful and town can be less active and not helpful. You cite Mylo as being very active and having made decent insights. How does that make him town? I've played games where a scum player was one of the most helpful in the game - which helped throw us off their path. I'm not going to ask how my actions make me seem scummy because quite frankly, I should seem scummy to you, as should everyone else unless they convince you otherwise. So how does Mylo's activity and insight, or Sercies' asking good questions make them town?
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 18, 2018 6:42:35 GMT -5
Oh thanks for bumping this Nose, I got distracted lol.
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 18, 2018 6:46:07 GMT -5
Votecount 1.3The deadline is in 1 day, 7 hours, and 15 minutes. If the deadline was right now, Rose "Payola" Nylund would be lynched. Let me know as soon as possible if I've made a mistake in the vote count.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 18, 2018 6:52:38 GMT -5
clarification: it feels a bit odd that he had time to post, but didn't use that time to comment on any of the conversation above him, even briefly. More or less just to remind myself to go back and re-read later as that post was made as I was rushing breakfast and getting ready for work. I'm least productive then because I'm always late for everything anyway. So we have: wob - newbie, new to everything and everyone unless a dupe Cynthia/Kelly's 10th fan - regular player Sercies - regular player Myloninja - newish? I forget if I've played a game with him before Juggalo - same. Though I played with him slightly in Big Brother and I know he has a lot of passion so I'll be watching him closely. Pred - don't think I've played with him before Me So there are 7 players. I'm going to guess there are 2 scum and 5 town. It's a closed setup but with only 7 player, I'm going to guess that there's not enough for anything more than that, in the way of independents and whatever. Maybe Sercies (can I just call you kunt or is that completely passed?) can shed some light on this. My general approach to these games tends to be to assume everyone is scum unless they can convince me otherwise. In a situation where everyone is on equal footing, as tends to be the case at the start of the first day phase, I like to lean toward voting out the least useful players. With that out of the way, my only real impression so far is on Wob, who is active but seems really anxious to make someone/anyone a target. Woah Woah Guessing there's 2 scum and 5 town is a pretty big leap lol. From another site I've used, the 'basic' set-up was usually 2 scum and 7 town, with one or two PR's for town. Unless town has some super strong PR's I'd be pretty surprised if that was the set-up, especially given plurality lynches. But I do understand your desire to get rid of least useful players, I've played some games that were lost by town not lynching unhelpful slots and that coming back to bite them. |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 18, 2018 6:54:08 GMT -5
can you elaborate on this sure Mylo: Very active, got the ball rolling and made some decent insights at the start of the game. Town lean. Sercies: Has been pressuring people and asking some good questions overall. Would like to hear more of their own thoughts on the game so far but in general seems town. PREDS: Only one short post about not knowing what to do, which doesn't seem alignment indicative at all to me. Caged: Don't see a lot to read into here either, but looking back at his posts it does seem a little odd that he had time to mess around at the start of the game during RVS but hasn't really posted since. Kelly: Mostly put them as lean scum because their wording when asking why they were seen as scum came off as odd and they were acting a little weird in general. Their answer to my question makes sense though. Nose Rylund: Only person I'd say I really scumread so far. I can't help but feel that him lynching me and saying that I'm "anxious to make someone/anyone a target" (which makes little sense, I haven't pressured anyone) is just a panicky response to me RVSing him at the start of the game and staying on him. Outside of that, the post about bookmarking this thread comes off as odd to me. I know he said that it was to remind him to come back and read the thread later, but I don't see how simply posting would achieve that. Seems like filler / trying to appear active to me. His latest post was alright but I would've liked to see some more actual comments on the current game state and first 2 or 3 pages. I think I'm townreading this a bit, this seems pretty genuine. |
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Post by wob on Sept 18, 2018 6:55:38 GMT -5
One thing to remind you is that scum can be active and helpful and town can be less active and not helpful. You cite Mylo as being very active and having made decent insights. How does that make him town? I've played games where a scum player was one of the most helpful in the game - which helped throw us off their path. I'm not going to ask how my actions make me seem scummy because quite frankly, I should seem scummy to you, as should everyone else unless they convince you otherwise. So how does Mylo's activity and insight, or Sercies' asking good questions make them town? I agree with you that both scum and town can be active or inactive. However, I'd argue that scum tend to gravitate more often towards lurking, because this denies information from town, making it more difficult for them to make reads and advance the game. On day one especially, when there's not much information to lynch others from, voting out less active players isn't a bad strategy in my opinion, since even if they turn out to be town, at least we'll be getting rid of a player who isn't contributing much anyway. |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 18, 2018 6:59:11 GMT -5
One thing to remind you is that scum can be active and helpful and town can be less active and not helpful. You cite Mylo as being very active and having made decent insights. How does that make him town? I've played games where a scum player was one of the most helpful in the game - which helped throw us off their path. I'm not going to ask how my actions make me seem scummy because quite frankly, I should seem scummy to you, as should everyone else unless they convince you otherwise. So how does Mylo's activity and insight, or Sercies' asking good questions make them town? I mean I guess that's fair reasoning? But like do you expect me as scum to just go out and get everyone talking and try and force discussion and put out my reads instead of, you know, just not posting that lol? Oh, before I forget I should mention meta. Not sure what you guys's thoughts on meta is, but if you'd like you can read through some of my recent town/scum games I've played on Mafiascum. Meta basically being prior games for a player lol. |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 18, 2018 7:18:06 GMT -5
Looking at Preds recent posts, it seems like he hasn't been on for a while :( About an hour after his first game post here, he hasn't posted since. Hopefully he gets back soon enough to weigh in his thoughts.
Anyway, I must sleep now :( But I'll be back tomorrow :)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 0:03:44 GMT -5
I don't think I'm going to be around before the deadline tomorrow, so I'm going to get in another day 1 post while I can now.
Not much else has happened since the last time I was in here, but I'm going to switch my vote from Max - he has contributed more to the discussion in a meaningful way on this page - to vote: Preds. As Mylo pointed out, he hasn't posted since the last time he was in here but at this point he's the only complete mystery player in the game.
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 19, 2018 0:08:01 GMT -5
Votecount 1.41* Rose "Payola" Nylund (wob )
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1 @doinktheclown (@touch )1 @pjscott11 (@antigonerising )The deadline is in 0 days, 13 hours, and 53 minutes. If the deadline was right now, Rose "Payola" Nylund would be lynched. Let me know as soon as possible if I've made a mistake in the vote count. EDIT: Kelly's vote has accordingly been switched to PREDS, plurality stayed on Nose as of this lynch count.
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Post by wob on Sept 19, 2018 1:19:26 GMT -5
Lux ◢ ◤ you listed Kelly twice in the vote count.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 19, 2018 1:24:17 GMT -5
AHHH we only have 13 hours left lol.
My lynch pool is probably {PREDS, Nose}. If either of them are lynched, I'd be cool with that.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 19, 2018 1:43:26 GMT -5
PREDS has been around Pulse a bit recently, so hopefully he checks in before deadline.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 19, 2018 1:44:20 GMT -5
Vote PREDS
This is L-2.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 19, 2018 6:16:42 GMT -5
One thing to remind you is that scum can be active and helpful and town can be less active and not helpful. You cite Mylo as being very active and having made decent insights. How does that make him town? I've played games where a scum player was one of the most helpful in the game - which helped throw us off their path. I'm not going to ask how my actions make me seem scummy because quite frankly, I should seem scummy to you, as should everyone else unless they convince you otherwise. So how does Mylo's activity and insight, or Sercies' asking good questions make them town? I agree with you that both scum and town can be active or inactive. However, I'd argue that scum tend to gravitate more often towards lurking, because this denies information from town, making it more difficult for them to make reads and advance the game. On day one especially, when there's not much information to lynch others from, voting out less active players isn't a bad strategy in my opinion, since even if they turn out to be town, at least we'll be getting rid of a player who isn't contributing much anyway. I don't necessarily disagree with that, especially for the first day phase, which is always a shot in the dark based on no information (that you'd get from night actions) but if otherwise knowledgeable/experienced players are less active during the first day, it's a reasonable assumption to think something might be up - especially if you've played with them before and they're known for being active as town. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 19, 2018 6:18:18 GMT -5
One thing to remind you is that scum can be active and helpful and town can be less active and not helpful. You cite Mylo as being very active and having made decent insights. How does that make him town? I've played games where a scum player was one of the most helpful in the game - which helped throw us off their path. I'm not going to ask how my actions make me seem scummy because quite frankly, I should seem scummy to you, as should everyone else unless they convince you otherwise. So how does Mylo's activity and insight, or Sercies' asking good questions make them town? I mean I guess that's fair reasoning? But like do you expect me as scum to just go out and get everyone talking and try and force discussion and put out my reads instead of, you know, just not posting that lol? I'd expect you as scum to act exactly the way you'd play if you were town. |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 19, 2018 6:53:23 GMT -5
I mean I guess that's fair reasoning? But like do you expect me as scum to just go out and get everyone talking and try and force discussion and put out my reads instead of, you know, just not posting that lol? I'd expect you as scum to act exactly the way you'd play if you were town. ...Oh? I like your optimism lol. |
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Post by wob on Sept 19, 2018 7:06:14 GMT -5
I'm fine with lynching PREDS today by the way.
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 19, 2018 11:52:54 GMT -5
Votecount 1.42 @pjscott11 (@antigonerising, Mylo13 💜 )1* Rose "Payola" Nylund (wob )
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1 @doinktheclown (@touch )The deadline is in 0 days, 2 hours, and 8 minutes. If the deadline was right now, @pjscott11 would be lynched. Let me know as soon as possible if I've made a mistake in the vote count. The deadline is closeby, make any final votes now!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 12:06:01 GMT -5
vote: Pred’s Pride
I really hate plurality rules because it lets people stay off of Lynch wagons and coast if they *know* someone will be lynched anyway, lol but let me let that go.
I’m fine lynching PP too, but day 1 feels like a total dud.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 12:16:22 GMT -5
sure Mylo: Very active, got the ball rolling and made some decent insights at the start of the game. Town lean. Sercies: Has been pressuring people and asking some good questions overall. Would like to hear more of their own thoughts on the game so far but in general seems town. PREDS: Only one short post about not knowing what to do, which doesn't seem alignment indicative at all to me. Caged: Don't see a lot to read into here either, but looking back at his posts it does seem a little odd that he had time to mess around at the start of the game during RVS but hasn't really posted since. Kelly: Mostly put them as lean scum because their wording when asking why they were seen as scum came off as odd and they were acting a little weird in general. Their answer to my question makes sense though. Nose Rylund: Only person I'd say I really scumread so far. I can't help but feel that him lynching me and saying that I'm "anxious to make someone/anyone a target" (which makes little sense, I haven't pressured anyone) is just a panicky response to me RVSing him at the start of the game and staying on him. Outside of that, the post about bookmarking this thread comes off as odd to me. I know he said that it was to remind him to come back and read the thread later, but I don't see how simply posting would achieve that. Seems like filler / trying to appear active to me. His latest post was alright but I would've liked to see some more actual comments on the current game state and first 2 or 3 pages. I think I’m townreading this a bit, this seems pretty genuine. ”genuine” Is a really flowery term that sounds great, but idk I’m not really buying it as a solid means of passing. I know we don’t have a lot to go off of, but I think we have better tells in this thread already. One thing to remind you is that scum can be active and helpful and town can be less active and not helpful. You cite Mylo as being very active and having made decent insights. How does that make him town? I've played games where a scum player was one of the most helpful in the game - which helped throw us off their path. I'm not going to ask how my actions make me seem scummy because quite frankly, I should seem scummy to you, as should everyone else unless they convince you otherwise. So how does Mylo's activity and insight, or Sercies' asking good questions make them town? I agree with you that both scum and town can be active or inactive. However, I'd argue that scum tend to gravitate more often towards lurking, because this denies information from town, making it more difficult for them to make reads and advance the game. On day one especially, when there's not much information to lynch others from, voting out less active players isn't a bad strategy in my opinion, since even if they turn out to be town, at least we'll be getting rid of a player who isn't contributing much anyway. Sure, and I agree that lynching Pred now is good policy because he’s going to be dead weight and a distraction for the duration of this game unless we cut the chord, but at the same time I don’t think he’s scum. Scum coast, they don’t outright ignore the game. I think Max’s point was more that scum can and will finesse their way into seeming active without actually contributing much, even going so far as to bus their teammates if not outright throw them under the bus (I’m notorious for this as scum lol). I’m almost more inclined to say Juggalo is the better lunch—he’s just as inactive, but when questioned he made an excuse and otherwise contributed nothing. That’s not a reliable scumtell, but it’s more to go off of than Pred not giving a single fuck. Now that I’ve thought about it, it’s probably too late to switch gears but vote: JuggaloCurrently I have Mylo as a weak town read. He’s the most engaged player, but the potential is there for scum to be taking advantage of a passive town early game. Cynthia, wob, and Max are there enough but nothing jumps out at me enough to make a call. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 12:19:50 GMT -5
Vote: Preds
I haven't been much of help either, and I completely apologize
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 12:23:44 GMT -5
It's not like I'm purposely making excuses, when I was doing Big Brother, I had a lot of free time, and now things are just hitting fast and heavy. If you want to lynch me on Day 2 that's perfectly fine, but at least let me help where I can
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 19, 2018 14:13:27 GMT -5
The deadline hit! You guys lynched @pjscott11...
Will be updating soon. It's now Night 1, if you want to use an action, you've got 23 hours and 47 minutes to submit it.
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 19, 2018 14:15:39 GMT -5
Welcome @pjscott11 to Skull Island.You’ll be starring as Drake. You’ve had a career spanning almost a decade, but only seem to be reaching your peak now. That’s impressive! Your 2016 was already very impressive, with hits like One Dance, and your Rihanna collaboration Work dominating, but that was just a taste of what was about to be. Between God’s Plan, Nice For What, In My Feelings, you were unavoidable. Then your album Scorpion was also ubiquitous, with a picture of you appearing on all Spotify playlists, many having a song of you in it, whether it fit or not. But… you want more. You may have the record for most weeks at #1 for a solo male, but you’d rather be the only person who gets #1 altogether, and the only way to do that is to eliminate the competition. You’ll be part of the Mafia. You’re also known for allowing unknowns like BlocBoy JB and Lil Baby some time in the spotlight. Once a game you may give a player who is not within the Mafia some time in the spotlight. When you do this, they will be the only player who can lynch that day… Good luck, your host Lux ◢ ◤ . Alive Players (6): @touch , @antigonerising , Mylo13 💜 , Rose "Payola" Nylund , @doinktheclown , wob |
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 20, 2018 16:13:32 GMT -5
Tonight, @touch died! I was a bit late today, was watching Survivor and kind of forgot. You'll get a 2 hour extension so you do still have 2 real life days for this day. Welcome @touch to Skull Island.You’ll be starring as Ed Sheeran. You were already fairly known with your previous albums, + and x, but it was ÷ that really propelled you into superstardom. Between Shape of You and Perfect, no one could get around you, to some’s displeasure. You are really one of the kings of longevity. Shape of You spend almost 60 weeks in the Top 25, and Perfect is currently still charting despite being over a year old. Even some of your previous efforts, like Thinking Out Loud have shown impressive longevity. You’ll be participating in the show to give the world one last look at you before you take a break from music, and afterwards start focusing on more experimental music, as you said. You’re aligned with the town. Another one of your songs is Castle on the Hill, which obviously has cell chambers, right? You’ve discovered one on the island as well. Once a game at night, you may lock someone up in this cell. This will prevent them from being killed that night, but will also prevent them from using their action. Good luck, your host Lux ◢ ◤ . The deadline is at 5 PM EDT, aka in 1 day, 23 hours and 47 minutes! wob @antigonerising Mylo13 💜 @doinktheclown Rose "Payola" Nylund (I'm getting good at remembering the tags!) |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 20, 2018 16:21:27 GMT -5
Okay, I'm very happy about yesterday's lynch. And I'm also glad and partially confused that Sercies died after his weird last-minute flip.
I can confirm he didn't Jailkeep me last night (And other people can too) so we could perhaps get a conf!town if a singular slot was roleblocked last night.
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