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Post by TeamTitleist on Mar 30, 2020 14:40:54 GMT -5
It's nice to see In Between finally picking up steam. Bullet of 383 today and now over 20M AI. Hoping for Top 10 and then whatever else happens is fine. One day maybe these songs can climb the charts at a faster pace, but until then it is what it is. As mentioned earlier, after the UMG separation (best thing to ever happen to him), the Triple Tigers era has been great for Scotty. Two number 1's and a Top 16 and climbing...very solid.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 30, 2020 17:25:46 GMT -5
It's nice to see In Between finally picking up steam. Bullet of 383 today and now over 20M AI. Hoping for Top 10 and then whatever else happens is fine. One day maybe these songs can climb the charts at a faster pace, but until then it is what it is. As mentioned earlier, after the UMG separation (best thing to ever happen to him), the Triple Tigers era has been great for Scotty. Two number 1's and a Top 16 and climbing...very solid. The charts moving faster would probably mean this song would be long gone as it is one of the ones that is causing the charts to slow down since it has taken 51 weeks just to hit #16 on the charts. This song is not even in the Top 150 on the Country iTunes, the music video only has 2.4 million views despite being released 9 months ago. So "In Between" does not really fit the bill of a song that is screwed over by how long chart runs are nowadays, if anything because of how long chart runs are it has allowed this song to peak higher than it probably should have. If this song was around during the early 2010s chart runs it probably would have stalled out by the time it hit the Top 40.
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Post by Marv on Mar 31, 2020 1:07:05 GMT -5
Six songs in the Mediabase top 30 lost some 9,600 spins, which is one serious housecleaning event.
I don't know if this tune will be a beneficiary of this episode but we'll find out sooner or later; he's 700+ spins and 5,000,000+ AIs behind Carrie, so we'll see how long that gap lasts.
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Post by TeamTitleist on Mar 31, 2020 8:45:08 GMT -5
Marv,
I think you meant ahead of Carrie, but I get the point. Regardless of what happens to In Between The Seasons Change album cycle has been good. Two #1's and whatever happens to In Between is solid. Some here had this song leaving the charts all the way back in December so for now I'll just be happy with where it is. Both his #1's took 37 and 40 weeks. This one is obviously taking longer, but I believe part of that was due to This Is It being played a LOT after it went recurrent. For now, the bullet is getting stronger and I'll enjoy seeing how high it can go.
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Post by TeamTitleist on Apr 13, 2020 10:30:20 GMT -5
Two weeks later and still with a 400 spin/3.2M AI gap on Carrie. A long run, but Top 10 is in sight. After that whatever happens is fine.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 19, 2020 17:09:14 GMT -5
And just like that this song is back down to a meek double digit bullet at 55 on Mediabase. Maybe next week this gets back to gaining well, but this week was an outright dud for "In Between" and while there is a good distance between Scotty McCreery and the songs below him, it does seem like Keith Urban, Sam Hunt and to a lesser extent Carrie Underwood and LoCash are starting to gain ground on him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 18:43:10 GMT -5
Billboard Hot 100: #93 (debut)
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Post by TeamTitleist on Apr 21, 2020 10:58:11 GMT -5
And just like that this song is back down to a meek double digit bullet at 55 on Mediabase. Maybe next week this gets back to gaining well, but this week was an outright dud for "In Between" and while there is a good distance between Scotty McCreery and the songs below him, it does seem like Keith Urban, Sam Hunt and to a lesser extent Carrie Underwood and LoCash are starting to gain ground on him. Last week was a dud for a lot of songs with low bullets...Carrie (91), Kenny (55), Church (77) and many others. It's the ebb and flow of the charts. Bullet back up today to 168 and while Keith and Sam are closing, Carrie is no closer than she was a week ago. Still 400+ spins back and now a 3.3M AI gap. And with In Between debuting on Hot 100....it's a good day! Cheers everyone.
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Post by ericNY2002 on Apr 26, 2020 12:15:28 GMT -5
Surprisingly “In Between” jumped ahead of “Here and Now” on Mediabase this morning and will be #10 once the published chart comes out tonight. I wonder how much longer “In Between” will be pushed now that it’s reached the top 10.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 26, 2020 12:23:31 GMT -5
Surprisingly “In Between” jumped ahead of “Here and Now” on Mediabase this morning and will be #10 once the published chart comes out tonight. I wonder how much longer “In Between” will be pushed now that it’s reached the top 10. Well this Monday it is gonna be on Week 55 on Billboard, and the most a song has ever gone is 60 weeks in total, so 4 to 5 weeks at the most would be my guess? How high and how well it gains in those weeks is up in the air because it is a long ways off still from #1 in terms of audience and spins and while this song is not gaining poorly, unless a song is in total freefall I don't see Scotty McCreery passing anymore active songs in front of him.
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Post by baltized on Apr 26, 2020 16:21:53 GMT -5
Top 10, not bad considering people said it would fizzle out after top 20 and not get anywhere close to #1. Thank God he has a strong label that believes in him.
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Post by Marv on Apr 26, 2020 16:56:19 GMT -5
It's really up to his label as to how much longer they'll continue to promote this tune which will mark 36 weeks on CT40 this upcoming weekend.
With Kenny Chesney set to pass him within 2-3 days and Sam Hunt by next weekend, pulling the plug on this and releasing a new single makes plenty of sense IMHO.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 26, 2020 17:02:54 GMT -5
It's really up to his label as to how much longer they'll continue to promote this tune which will mark 36 weeks on CT40 this upcoming weekend.
With Kenny Chesney set to re-pass him within 2-3 days and Sam Hunt by next weekend, pulling the plug on this and releasing a new single makes plenty of sense IMHO. It is up to the label, but if radio wants to let a song stall out, they have the full power to do it, and once a song gets past 50 weeks it gets much harder to keep a song afloat as the radio programmers themselves are burned out on the song.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 26, 2020 18:45:33 GMT -5
It's crazy how chart runs at the format just get longer and longer. We just had Rodney Atkins set a new finish line, which was almost immediately reset by Jimmie Allen, and now it's probably going to be busted yet again by Travis Denning, and Scotty McCreery's song here doesn't look like radio is about to get rid of it yet either. It's unfortunate that the chart just continues to get more bogged down by songs that catch second winds a year into their run, but Scotty's song doesn't seem to be showing any signs yet of radio preparing to ditch it. I could see a push for a potential top 5 peak in the cards for this one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2020 19:29:19 GMT -5
People in here keep referring to Male artists who are taking forever to go up the charts. When you're not an "A Lister" or one of the chosen few i.e. Brett Young, Jordan Davis, Jake Owen..etc or a female who is being pushed by radio like there is no tomorrow, it does take a long time to go up the chart.
These male artists deserve to go up the charts as much as the others. They have as much, if not more talent and in a lot of cases, a much better voice than the more successful ones. The fact of the matter is , that they are not given success on a silver platter like some others are.
Wish people would stop harping about it because they are male artists.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 26, 2020 19:52:38 GMT -5
People in here keep referring to Male artists who are taking forever to go up the charts. When you're not an "A Lister" or one of the chosen few i.e. Brett Young, Jordan Davis, Jake Owen..etc or a female who is being pushed by radio like there is no tomorrow, it does take a long time to go up the chart. These male artists deserve to go up the charts as much as the others. They have as much, if not more talent and in a lot of cases, a much better voice than the more successful ones. The fact of the matter is , that they are not given success on a silver platter like some others are. Wish people would stop harping about it because they are male artists. You must live in an alternate reality if you think the male artists are the ones who have it hard, lmao. Also idk what you were trying to do with those examples because Brett Young, Jordan Davis, and Jake Owen all took like 40-50 weeks to peak with their latest singles, completely disproving that theory that they're somehow immune to slow chart climbs. I can't speak for anyone else, but I think that artists like Scotty McCreery should go up the charts faster, especially with his last two singles as they connected in a big way. "In Between" didn't resonate the way the last two did so for me personally, I think they should've given up on this one awhile ago and tried something new to kick off album era #4.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 26, 2020 19:58:34 GMT -5
People in here keep referring to Male artists who are taking forever to go up the charts. When you're not an "A Lister" or one of the chosen few i.e. Brett Young, Jordan Davis, Jake Owen..etc or a female who is being pushed by radio like there is no tomorrow, it does take a long time to go up the chart. These male artists deserve to go up the charts as much as the others. They have as much, if not more talent and in a lot of cases, a much better voice than the more successful ones. The fact of the matter is , that they are not given success on a silver platter like some others are. Wish people would stop harping about it because they are male artists. Okay first of all I find it personally annoying that female artists aren't allowed marathon chart climbs or if they are marathon they are more of a 41-48 weeks max where as males are allowed 60 weeks now. Someone correct me but I don't think a female song has ever clocked in at 50+ weeks. That is just blatantly sexist. Second of all, EVERY artist has to earn their success. There is no easy way out, or free rides in being successful in the music industry especially as a singer. But women especially have it hard as singers in the music industry given country radio being sexist to them Third of all, for me as someone who prefers female singers over male singers, because I find myself enjoying their vocals, melodies, etc. I root for women in country music because I prefer female singers to male singers. That and like I said it is bulls**t that even in the most marathon esque chart runs, males get longer chart runs, I find it to be a load of s**t that Travis Denning gets nearly 60 weeks for a Top 5 peak, while Runaway June is only allowed 48 weeks for their breakthrough single that peaks at #8. I find it bulls**t that Rodney Atkins "Caught Up In The Country" gets almost 60 weeks for a Top 20 peak and yet Lauren Alaina can't also do that with "Doin Fine"? I would not have such a problem with country radio if they treated women fairly, instead for every 6 new solo women that have their big breakthrough hit in the past 5 years (Maren Morris, Kelsea Ballerini, Carly Pearce, Lauren Alaina, Ingrid Andress, Gabby Barrett) we have well over a dozen new men that also have success or their first hit (Luke Combs, Scotty McCreery, Brett Young, Jordan Davis, Michael Ray, Jon Pardi, Granger Smith, Matt Stell, Chris Lane, Russell Dickerson, Dylan Scott, Mitchell Tenpenny, Jimmie Allen, Kane Brown, Devin Dawson, Tucker Beathard, Travis Denning, Riley Green off the top of my head), so yeah I am gonna complain when male artists get longer chart runs and more hits than women because it proves country radio is sexist against women and at the very least men and women should be played and showed on the charts evenly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2020 21:04:23 GMT -5
"You must live in an alternate reality if you think the male artists are the ones who have it hard, lmao.
I never said that male artists were the only ones having it hard. I was referring to the constant harping (mainly by 1 poster) about male artists being on the charts for a certain number of weeks. After a while it becomes redundant.
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Post by McCreerian on Apr 26, 2020 21:20:19 GMT -5
Congrats to Scotty! Great to see another top 10!
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Post by justin5545 on Apr 27, 2020 1:02:35 GMT -5
Since it is almost guaranteed that they will move on from this album after this, I just want to say I am still mad that they chose this over "Boys From Back Home" or "Home In My Mind".
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Post by TeamTitleist on Apr 27, 2020 5:47:12 GMT -5
As I stated previously glad to see this hit the Top 10. Now anything else that happens is icing on the cake. For a song that some on this board gave up on back in December I’ll take it. More than likely this is the final track off Seasons Change. A very solid album era. Ultimately it falls on the artists label to push the song. Doesn’t matter if you are male or female. That is why I am so glad he is with Triple Tigers instead of UMG Nashville. IMO those big labels simply don’t have the time to work the non A Listers like they should and that is a shame cause there is a lot of tremendous talent that doesn’t get the attention that they deserve. Everyone have a good week.
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Post by TeamTitleist on May 1, 2020 9:26:09 GMT -5
Great seeing this have a really strong week. Bullet now at 411. Already happy with a Top 10, but hopefully this will jump Brett Young by Sunday and then who knows from there. Thank you Triple Tigers! Happy Friday everyone.
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Post by TeamTitleist on May 5, 2020 7:27:00 GMT -5
Up 7 on Hot 100 to #82. Also 6th highest bullet (451) in all of Top 30. Now hoping for Top 5 finish and whatever happens after that is all good.
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Post by Darkest Hour on May 5, 2020 7:41:54 GMT -5
This song sounds like one of the many songs that will have a kind of rough start, and research comes in after a while, and skyrocket afterwards. This comment ages well, except "a while" is almost 11 months later
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Post by raylatch98 on May 5, 2020 7:47:10 GMT -5
Good for Triple Tigers that they managed to get this song so high, it's just infuriating that a total non event single like this is gonna possibly get a Top 5 peak, while an absolute selling smash "Die From A Broken Heart" will probably peak in the Top 10 at best (on YouTube Maddie & Tae have 19 million views and over 169,000 likes compared to Scotty McCreery 2.6 million views and over 17,000 likes). This song's testing isn't even great (besides the low Negative score, the rest is pretty mediocre), it is always annoying when country radio lets these marathon chart runs happen, especially to complete inoffensive songs (this, "One Big Country Song", "To A T", "After A Few", "Last Shot", "Buy My Own Drinks") and most times these songs that get marathon chart runs are by male artists ("Buy My Own Drinks" being the exception of the examples I just gave).
I have somewhat gotten used to these huge chart runs, but it is still annoying when a song that is clearly not connecting or have much passion, makes it so high beyond expiration date, and it is almost always a male singer. I can only hope that the latest singles from Maddie & Tae, Runaway June, Lauren Alaina, Lindsay Ell, and Tenille Arts also get to spend close to 60 weeks on the chart, seems only fair.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 9:07:12 GMT -5
Up 7 on Hot 100 to #82. Also 6th highest bullet (451) in all of Top 30. Now hoping for Top 5 finish and whatever happens after that is all good. That would be awesome, if "In Between" would get to #5 . Not bad for a 3rd single coming from an album over 2 years old . No wonder it didn't sell as well as his other singles that are Gold, Platinum and Double platinum certified. Hopefully, the new music will be a smash that will go up the charts in a lot less time than this one did. Fingers crossed.
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Post by TeamTitleist on May 5, 2020 11:54:49 GMT -5
Good for Triple Tigers that they managed to get this song so high, it's just infuriating that a total non event single like this is gonna possibly get a Top 5 peak, while an absolute selling smash "Die From A Broken Heart" will probably peak in the Top 10 at best (on YouTube Maddie & Tae have 19 million views and over 169,000 likes compared to Scotty McCreery 2.6 million views and over 17,000 likes). This song's testing isn't even great (besides the low Negative score, the rest is pretty mediocre), it is always annoying when country radio lets these marathon chart runs happen, especially to complete inoffensive songs (this, "One Big Country Song", "To A T", "After A Few", "Last Shot", "Buy My Own Drinks") and most times these songs that get marathon chart runs are by male artists ("Buy My Own Drinks" being the exception of the examples I just gave). I have somewhat gotten used to these huge chart runs, but it is still annoying when a song that is clearly not connecting or have much passion, makes it so high beyond expiration date, and it is almost always a male singer. I can only hope that the latest singles from Maddie & Tae, Runaway June, Lauren Alaina, Lindsay Ell, and Tenille Arts also get to spend close to 60 weeks on the chart, seems only fair. I need some help understanding what this expiration date is that you speak about? Been watching the charts a long time and this is a new term for me. Who determines the expiration date? Chart runs in general are getting longer unless you are one of the top artists. It was said earlier by someone, maybe on another topic, that just because a song has been out a year until it reaches Top 30 it is still relatively new to most casual listeners. This song got off to a slower start due to This Is It being a huge smash and getting major recurrent airplay. Ultimately as I've said before it is up to the labels to push this song and work with radio. Maybe some of your favorite singers don't get the same kind of support from their label? I'm not sure, but it boils down to this. If a song has been out a long time and stations are tired of it, they won't play it. Until then.........
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Post by raylatch98 on May 5, 2020 12:44:34 GMT -5
Good for Triple Tigers that they managed to get this song so high, it's just infuriating that a total non event single like this is gonna possibly get a Top 5 peak, while an absolute selling smash "Die From A Broken Heart" will probably peak in the Top 10 at best (on YouTube Maddie & Tae have 19 million views and over 169,000 likes compared to Scotty McCreery 2.6 million views and over 17,000 likes). This song's testing isn't even great (besides the low Negative score, the rest is pretty mediocre), it is always annoying when country radio lets these marathon chart runs happen, especially to complete inoffensive songs (this, "One Big Country Song", "To A T", "After A Few", "Last Shot", "Buy My Own Drinks") and most times these songs that get marathon chart runs are by male artists ("Buy My Own Drinks" being the exception of the examples I just gave). I have somewhat gotten used to these huge chart runs, but it is still annoying when a song that is clearly not connecting or have much passion, makes it so high beyond expiration date, and it is almost always a male singer. I can only hope that the latest singles from Maddie & Tae, Runaway June, Lauren Alaina, Lindsay Ell, and Tenille Arts also get to spend close to 60 weeks on the chart, seems only fair. I need some help understanding what this expiration date is that you speak about? Been watching the charts a long time and this is a new term for me. Who determines the expiration date? Chart runs in general are getting longer unless you are one of the top artists. It was said earlier by someone, maybe on another topic, that just because a song has been out a year until it reaches Top 30 it is still relatively new to most casual listeners. This song got off to a slower start due to This Is It being a huge smash and getting major recurrent airplay. Ultimately as I've said before it is up to the labels to push this song and work with radio. Maybe some of your favorite singers don't get the same kind of support from their label? I'm not sure, but it boils down to this. If a song has been out a long time and stations are tired of it, they won't play it. Until then......... Ok so expiration date is essentially for me when I say it is a song that has made it higher than it naturally would have, given how long it has been on the chart, lack of sales, etc. Because most times a songs first 10-20 weeks are the most indicative of how this songs chart run is going to go and the pace it will be setting and by the middle 40s to high end of 40s in terms of weeks now is about where I would say the natural peak would be. The other thing is that while it is new to casual listeners, it is not new to the radio programmers and stuff, as a decent chunk of radio stations have had this song in rotation since the add date, and I imagine at this point they are kind of ready to drop this song, but since the label is so insistent on keeping this alive it still climbs, finding any crack to exploit and take advantage of. Also in regards to the part I bolded, my favorite artists (mostly female) do get the same support from their label it is just sexist country radio being sexist against women and female songs.
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Post by TeamTitleist on May 11, 2020 5:37:47 GMT -5
A very nice week for In Between. One of the strongest bullets in the Top 30 and all the way up to #7 now. Already happy with Top 10, now it’s just a matter of how high can it go. Great work Triple Tigers!!
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Post by TeamTitleist on May 16, 2020 16:59:15 GMT -5
Just loving all the big stations that are spinning In Between up. Up almost 4.4M AI this week alone. Still a big gap between Carly and Lee above this, but also starting to separate somewhat from the songs below. Amazing job that Triple Tigers is doing.
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