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Post by wjr15 on Sept 18, 2019 10:59:00 GMT -5
This “era” is the tamest Katy has been her entire career.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Sept 18, 2019 11:10:59 GMT -5
Her image this "era" seems way laxed than before. The visuals/performances are always gonna be over the top/entertaining.
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Post by ZAYN on Sept 18, 2019 13:35:11 GMT -5
Her performance was b o r I n g.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 18, 2019 22:07:01 GMT -5
The performance didnt help her sales too much.
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Post by Choco on Sept 18, 2019 22:51:09 GMT -5
Sales are dead. This could have flown to #10 on iTunes and it would still be a flop.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 19, 2019 7:30:57 GMT -5
POP: 39 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1385 1361 24 3.397
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HOT AC: 43 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 247 216 31 0.345
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Post by divasummer on Sept 19, 2019 9:32:50 GMT -5
I liked Katy's performance of "Small Talk". I'll be honest and saw what she was wearing and had pre judgement. However I liked the scaled back performance, thought she sounded good and the visuals ended up being cute. I guess I'm in the minority though because most seem to think it was boring..
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Post by Suono on Sept 19, 2019 15:26:46 GMT -5
I think the bathroom performance was better. I do give her points for using live background singers instead of just a dup track that she sings over. You see that less and less these days.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 20, 2019 6:41:02 GMT -5
POP: 38 40 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1400 1364 36 3.263
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HOT AC: 43 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 247 220 27 0.330
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Post by Maximillian on Sept 20, 2019 15:01:59 GMT -5
Lol, people surprised that a performance on Ellen didn’t skyrocket sales.
Ellen, y’all.
Edit: her vocals live have improved so much, kudos for her.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 21, 2019 6:15:13 GMT -5
POP: 39 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1396 1354 42 3.282
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HOT AC: 43 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 251 222 29 0.346
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 22, 2019 6:12:10 GMT -5
POP: 38 40 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1375 1381 -6 3.261
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HOT AC: 39 40 KATY PERRY Small Talk 250 230 20 0.342
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Post by gabe on Sept 22, 2019 20:05:28 GMT -5
no promo organic hit 😍😍😍
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 22, 2019 23:41:26 GMT -5
this is her biggest flop for sure. I hope they learn something from this, as surely someone, whether it'd be Katy or the label or both, have lost money on this single release. It doesn't necessarily deserve to be her biggest flop, but her promo strategy is just not good enough anymore.
Don't release anything if you aren't going to give it your all. The older you get the harder you have to work.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 23, 2019 8:34:00 GMT -5
Did this get played on AT40?
POP: 38 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1428 1409 19 3.710
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HOT AC: 39 39 KATY PERRY Small Talk 250 247 3 0.439
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Post by jumpb4uthink on Sept 23, 2019 10:39:07 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Sept 23, 2019 14:36:35 GMT -5
As far as biggest flops I'd say Bon Appetit was such a huge momentum killer (that she hasn't been able to completely shake off so far), that even with much higher peaks and streams it is still a much bigger flop than this.
This had very little momentum to kill tbh. Most people don't even know it exists.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 23, 2019 15:05:44 GMT -5
This had very little momentum to kill tbh. i don't know about that. NRO was an exciting release for a lot of people, and did fairly well. I'd say the momentum from CTTR --> BA was just about the same as NRO --> ST. ST won't be any sort of cult classic tho. There is no memorable moment attached to it. BA has the cutting of the hair and the mysterious Youtube algorithm stuff. And plus it is still that bop.
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Post by Choco on Sept 23, 2019 15:08:14 GMT -5
Yeah you won't really see people talking about this several years after release, unlike Bon Appetit. Even if it's for all the wrong reasons lol.
I really want this to finally crater down so they can move on to something else. Like I said best case scenario was it stalling after a week but nah, of course they allowed it to slowly crawl to this still awful peak and kill all momentum.
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Post by Suono on Sept 23, 2019 23:49:10 GMT -5
Yeah let's not forget Bon Appetit was actually a good song that got shafted by the Migos controvers.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 24, 2019 4:25:45 GMT -5
Yeah let's not forget Bon Appetit was actually a good song Lol. Agree to disagree on that one.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 24, 2019 6:08:27 GMT -5
POP: 38 38 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1417 1405 12 3.523
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 25, 2019 6:08:47 GMT -5
POP: 39 38 KATY PERRY Small Talk 1408 1384 24 3.451
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Post by MissAmericana on Sept 25, 2019 8:18:18 GMT -5
Capitol really needs to move on from this. I'm just hoping they save Harleys In Hawaii for next summer, it's way too late for it now.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Sept 25, 2019 8:30:26 GMT -5
Capitol really needs to move on from this. I'm just hoping they save Harleys In Hawaii for next summer, it's way too late for it now. Yeah I am genuinely interested in HIH now just because it seems so bizarre they shot a summery video for it with her prancing around a beach in a bikini and then...didn't release it for this. I know the actual song may not be that summery, but I wonder what decision making process went into preparing at least somewhat for HIH and then seemingly not releasing it in the season that would make sense. I already look forward to our discussions over whether it was the correct choice or not But yeah, I wonder what the gameplan is now since all momentum is absolutely gone from NRO.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 25, 2019 8:54:48 GMT -5
I already look forward to our discussions over whether it was the correct choice or not But yeah, I wonder what the gameplan is now since all momentum is absolutely gone from NRO. Katy and Capitol suck at picking singles (i.e. Prism and Witness). The first singles are always the perfect choice (Roar, CTTR, NRO) but then things slide off for the second single (Unconditionally, BA, ST)
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Post by MissAmericana on Sept 25, 2019 10:47:22 GMT -5
Capitol really needs to move on from this. I'm just hoping they save Harleys In Hawaii for next summer, it's way too late for it now. Yeah I am genuinely interested in HIH now just because it seems so bizarre they shot a summery video for it with her prancing around a beach in a bikini and then...didn't release it for this. I know the actual song may not be that summery, but I wonder what decision making process went into preparing at least somewhat for HIH and then seemingly not releasing it in the season that would make sense. I already look forward to our discussions over whether it was the correct choice or not But yeah, I wonder what the gameplan is now since all momentum is absolutely gone from NRO. Well, whatever comes next needs to be unbelievably catchy. Otherwise, this "era" or whatever it is will be absolutely dead. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this Katy's biggest solo flop? And it's not like this was at least a somewhat mild hit like Bon Appetit (in terms of streams).
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Post by Choco on Sept 25, 2019 15:24:07 GMT -5
I guess it's really over.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Sept 25, 2019 20:56:31 GMT -5
Capitol really needs to move on from this. I'm just hoping they save Harleys In Hawaii for next summer, it's way too late for it now. Yeah I am genuinely interested in HIH now just because it seems so bizarre they shot a summery video for it with her prancing around a beach in a bikini and then...didn't release it for this. I know the actual song may not be that summery, but I wonder what decision making process went into preparing at least somewhat for HIH and then seemingly not releasing it in the season that would make sense. I already look forward to our discussions over whether it was the correct choice or not But yeah, I wonder what the gameplan is now since all momentum is absolutely gone from NRO. They probably shot the video to avoid running into her American Idol schedule. Anyway, she's pretty much done at this point. I don't see her recovering.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 25, 2019 21:07:09 GMT -5
I guess it's really over. Except in this case it does.
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