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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 25, 2020 13:19:05 GMT -5
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Post by GP on Nov 25, 2020 13:19:59 GMT -5
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Post by anthony11554 on Nov 25, 2020 13:22:32 GMT -5
King ended the Grammys
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Nov 25, 2020 13:25:59 GMT -5
The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 Good example! I'm not surprised there, though, since the Grammys were very reluctant to reward this brand of upbeat, 'teen' pop back in the mid 90s, opting for AC ballads, Grammy-bait nostalgia, and the occasional left-field breakout artist. For reference, their closest contemporaries - the Backstreet Boys, released their debut album in 1996, but were only nominated for Best New Artist in 1999. The rise of Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and *NSYNC ultimately 'forced' them to give nominations to these acts, even if they rarely won. At least they were well recognized in their home country, winning Brit awards for "Say You'll Be There" and "Wannabe" in their breakout year.
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Post by 🌺T.A.T.I🌺 on Nov 25, 2020 13:34:30 GMT -5
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIBMFD4B1-c Breaking up the discussion of dissecting the snubs to throw some seriously heartwarming content. Mickey Guyton has been working her tail off for a decade in country music and is now the first Black woman to ever be nominated in her category, for a song about being Black in America. Way too damn thrilled about this. This black girl approves!
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Nov 25, 2020 13:42:54 GMT -5
The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 Good example! I'm not surprised there, though, since the Grammys were very reluctant to reward this brand of upbeat, 'teen' pop back in the mid 90s, opting for AC ballads, Grammy-bait nostalgia, and the occasional left-field breakout artist. For reference, their closest contemporaries - the Backstreet Boys, released their debut album in 1996, but were only nominated for Best New Artist in 1999. The rise of Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and *NSYNC ultimately 'forced' them to give nominations to these acts, even if they rarely won. At least they were well recognized in their home country, winning Brit awards for "Say You'll Be There" and "Wannabe" in their breakout year.
Definitely... being a young-oriented pop group didn't help them at all... Still, after cleaning up at the AMAs and Billboard Awards, and winning at the VMAs, I would've expected at least a 'Best Dance Recording' or 'Pop Performance by Duo or Group' noms.
You're right though... the Brit Awards were a love more receptive to them! They led the nominations (5), won 2 awards and gave one of their most iconic performances!
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Post by andrebra on Nov 25, 2020 13:46:45 GMT -5
Okay, so I’ve done some more reading on everything and I take back part of what I said. I agree that he has every right to be upset and demand answers and that it would make more sense if he was at least nominated in SOMETHING else. It really is truly bizarre and unfair, and it’s going to be very interesting to see all of this fold out. I do, however, still and will continue to think that the artists who were nominated should be allowed to celebrate without this constantly looming over their heads.
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Post by Choco on Nov 25, 2020 14:03:50 GMT -5
On some positive news congrats to both Billie and Dua on seemingly breaking the suppossed Best New Artist curse.
Dua getting into AOTY is huge. I kinda expected her to be snubbed there. I hope she can get at least a couple wins.
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Post by anthony11554 on Nov 25, 2020 14:04:58 GMT -5
Okay, so I’ve done some more reading on everything and I take back part of what I said. I agree that he has every right to be upset and demand answers and that it would make more sense if he was at least nominated in SOMETHING else. It really is truly bizarre and unfair, and it’s going to be very interesting to see all of this fold out. I do, however, still and will continue to think that the artists who were nominated should be allowed to celebrate without this constantly looming over their heads. I thought the only one getting hate was justin?
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Nov 25, 2020 14:16:55 GMT -5
Okay, so I’ve done some more reading on everything and I take back part of what I said. I agree that he has every right to be upset and demand answers and that it would make more sense if he was at least nominated in SOMETHING else. It really is truly bizarre and unfair, and it’s going to be very interesting to see all of this fold out. I do, however, still and will continue to think that the artists who were nominated should be allowed to celebrate without this constantly looming over their heads. Or maybe every artist should stop celebrating the Grammys already so they can rightfully lose the value and prestige
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 25, 2020 14:52:40 GMT -5
His tweet only tells me one thing. His album was made thinking a lot more of chart success and awards rather than artistic passion, wanting to connect with the fans or having something that needs to be said. At the end of the day, unless the Academy is funded by public money or artists pay themselves to possibly have nominations and votes (I honestly have absolutely no idea how that works), they don't owe anybody any explanations, whether we agree or not with the nominations. While that’s true, if they expect to have any credibility - or keep what they’ve earned over the years, they still work at the hands of the very artists they claim to represent. In recent years, after criticisms around lack of diversity, they can’t afford to lose support of entire fields or genres of artists. If artists as big as the Weeknd and others stop showing up and submitting for consideration while at the top of their game, the whole process goes down.
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Post by fridayteenage on Nov 25, 2020 15:21:38 GMT -5
UKMIX, predicted BB200 Year End: 1 HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING Post Malone 2 MY TURN Lil Baby 3 PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR BEING ANTISOCIAL Roddy Ricch 4 FINE LINE Harry Styles 5 FOLKLORE Taylor Swift 6 SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON Pop Smoke 7 ETERNAL ATAKE Lil Uzi Vert 8 LEGENDS NEVER DIE Juice WRLD 9 WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET Luke Combs 10 AFTER HOURS The Weeknd
I believe Uzi, Juice, and Luke all got zero noms too and apparently were more successful in the Billboard year.
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Post by vithor on Nov 25, 2020 15:32:30 GMT -5
His tweet only tells me one thing. His album was made thinking a lot more of chart success and awards rather than artistic passion, wanting to connect with the fans or having something that needs to be said. At the end of the day, unless the Academy is funded by public money or artists pay themselves to possibly have nominations and votes (I honestly have absolutely no idea how that works), they don't owe anybody any explanations, whether we agree or not with the nominations. While that’s true, if they expect to have any credibility - or keep what they’ve earned over the years, they still work at the hands of the very artists they claim to represent. In recent years, after criticisms around lack of diversity, they can’t afford to lose support of entire fields or genres of artists. If artists as big as the Weeknd and others stop showing up and submitting for consideration while at the top of their game, the whole process goes down. I completely agree. But what I mean is at this point, what could be done? Damage is done. I mean, no explanation can make up for anything and I don't see a case where they would take back these nominees and/or include him as an extra, that would be even weirder. Everything happens for a reason. Instead of focusing energy on Grammy he could channel that into his single SYT. The Grammys didn't happen but look at the wave of love going into his direction and his work. Life is giving you lemons, Abel.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 25, 2020 15:36:51 GMT -5
Okay, so I’ve done some more reading on everything and I take back part of what I said. I agree that he has every right to be upset and demand answers and that it would make more sense if he was at least nominated in SOMETHING else. It really is truly bizarre and unfair, and it’s going to be very interesting to see all of this fold out. I do, however, still and will continue to think that the artists who were nominated should be allowed to celebrate without this constantly looming over their heads. Or maybe every artist should stop celebrating the Grammys already so they can rightfully lose the value and prestige this is not realistic. it's like the Billboard charts — fans and geeks might have complaints, but it's made for the industry, by the industry, so there will always be people who have dreamed about Grammys coming onto the scene. I don't get the impression The Weeknd is acting entitled or narcissistic. It's one thing if he was complaining about not being nominated enough, or if he were talking about a non-successful project. But here we have one of the biggest albums of the year, with a behemoth of a single, and yet he receives zero nominations? I don't think a similar scenario has ever happened before. Not to mention everyone was predicting him to have guaranteed nominations, especially for "Blinding Lights". But instead it was snubbed everywhere and its slot taken by one of the most hated songs of the year ("Yummy"). It's very sketchy, and I think he has the right to ask for transparency on the Academy's part. Yeah this situation is way different from a regular snub, everyone expected Ed Sheeran to run the big catergories in 2018 but he only got the pop nominations after a huge year. But he still got some nominations, the fact that they didn't even delegate The Weeknd to the Pop or R&B categories mean something is up. Like how does he get no nominations? The Academy's explanations so far have been pretty bad, they keep dancing around the subject, we need some real transparency. Some of the things Harvey has said so far seems to imply The Weeknd wasn't even in the running, which is crazy to me. All the betting markets, HDD, etc had The Weeknd on lock to win big, everyone and their mother knows Blinding Lights (biggest hit of the year, 40 weeks in the Top 10), After Hours was a huge record with critical success. The fact that Abel got a fat 0 nominations is very suspicious. After reading the president's conversation with Billboard, it makes sense to me. They moved The Weeknd from R&B (where he would need to be in the Top 20 to be considered for a nomination by the committee) to Pop field (where only the top-voted choices get nominations and The Weeknd is a one-time nominee). So the Pop snubs make even more sense to me than the AOTY/ROTY/SOTY snubs. Now don't get me wrong, After Hours was a big album, but it didn't dominate national conversation or anything. For me, folklore and Fetch the Bolt Cutters were safer bets for AOTY for example. But I still thought it would make it. "Blinding Lights" not getting into ROTY/SOTY is the most controversial part in my opinion. I'd like to think that song made into the Top 20 most-voted songs, but did not get selected by the committee, for one reason or another. That's the only sys bit. To end on a more positive note, I'm going to repeat what one of my favorite Drag Race participants (Katya) said about coming just short of winning twice: "I wasn't robbed. You need to have something to be robbed." I would even argue not getting nominated at all is working in Abel's favor more than a single nomination would. He's getting a lot of sympathy and love. Which is better than getting 3 nominations and losing them all.
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 25, 2020 15:37:01 GMT -5
UKMIX, predicted BB200 Year End: 1 HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING Post Malone 2 MY TURN Lil Baby 3 PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR BEING ANTISOCIAL Roddy Ricch 4 FINE LINE Harry Styles 5 FOLKLORE Taylor Swift 6 SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON Pop Smoke 7 ETERNAL ATAKE Lil Uzi Vert 8 LEGENDS NEVER DIE Juice WRLD 9 WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET Luke Combs 10 AFTER HOURS The Weeknd I believe Uzi, Juice, and Luke all got zero noms too and apparently were more successful in the Billboard year. Might be just me, but the continuous deluxes and mixtapes lessen the value of actually GREAT work by some rappers. Roddy had that one 16 track album and he sticked to it. It was easy to evaluate his work, opposed to several others.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Nov 25, 2020 17:08:34 GMT -5
Very insightful comments from vithor and kimberly here. I'll say this, I would understand if he was snubbed from Album of the Year only, or even the pop categories. In fact, I remember reading Post Malone's "beerbongs and bentleys" wasn't featured in the genre categories for a similar reason - his team submitted it to rap, the Academy moved to pop, and it ended up not making the cut. However, indeed, "Blinding Lights" being shut out from Record Of The Year and Song Of The Year (and Best Pop Solo) is ludicrous, and definitely the most questionable snub out of everything here, since the song was undeniably massive and nearly unanimously beloved. But yes, The Weeknd will only gain from this in the end. Everyone is on his side here, folks are rediscovering the album thanks to the controversy, and he still has a Super Bowl performance to deliver.
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Post by irice22 on Nov 25, 2020 17:26:55 GMT -5
There's actually so many noms I'm happy about (HAIM, Dua, Swift), it's just hard to get excited about them with this egregious Weekend snub
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Post by bat1990 on Nov 25, 2020 18:52:30 GMT -5
This hopefully can and will be a reminder to artists stans that the Grammys are not the be all and end all. Look at the legends and icons who have never won an award or barely have any wins, and they get by just as well. Fixed it for you ;)
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 25, 2020 19:18:53 GMT -5
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Post by Kishi KCM on Nov 25, 2020 20:52:16 GMT -5
I will only watch for Trevor Noah's fine ass.
They did The Weeknd wrong and I can't even celebrate any of the artists/songs that were nominated because the snub is that big.
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Post by Music Fan on Nov 25, 2020 22:39:15 GMT -5
I will only watch for Trevor Noah's fine ass.They did The Weeknd wrong and I can't even celebrate any of the artists/songs that were nominated because the snub is that big. He's honestly another reason not to watch the show. Seems fitting he's the host of this snooze fest.
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Post by marcyiam on Nov 25, 2020 22:42:21 GMT -5
I will only watch for Trevor Noah's fine ass. They did The Weeknd wrong and I can't even celebrate any of the artists/songs that were nominated because the snub is that big. Seriously? That seems a bit dramatic but to each their own. You can obviously do and feel as you wish.
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Post by anthony11554 on Nov 25, 2020 23:17:50 GMT -5
Idk why anyone would celebrate an artist getting a grammy nom in the 1st place
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Post by Caviar on Nov 25, 2020 23:53:27 GMT -5
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Post by wavey. on Nov 26, 2020 0:19:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 2:52:03 GMT -5
Bruno said he got his shit while he could and got THEE fuck out of dodge
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 2:52:45 GMT -5
also, off-topic but Pete is look fine af in that picture
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Post by jthentic on Nov 26, 2020 3:26:37 GMT -5
They nominated yummy? Seriously wtf? Taylor swift put out an alt album but got noms in pop. Beyoncé had an unforgettable album & bagged noms while Summer walker got jackshit, Coldplay had a weak album which ppl didn't even know dropped until nom, the fact that they chose it over the Killers, who btw put out the best abum is puzzling. They gave women clean sweep on rock and alt as a diversion, there were better choices in rock tbh. Grammy is so outta touch & corrupt af
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 26, 2020 4:42:59 GMT -5
In terms of controversial award happenings, not nominating anything to After Hours is a 'Crash wins Best Picture' level fiasco
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Nov 26, 2020 4:52:34 GMT -5
Idk why anyone would celebrate an artist getting a grammy nom in the 1st place It's nice to see some of our favorites getting that sort of recognition when it does indeed happen.
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