Billboard Hot 100: 10/17/2020

[HolidayGuy]

Kinda random question, as I'm not sure it's happened in recent times off-hand: Does Billboard still use the "or" credit when an act has multiple versions of the same track, that feature different acts on each Of the versions? I'd think it would credit the version that has the most points, though in the past, it did use the "or" credit" on such tracks. Maybe it uses "or" if the versions have the same sound/production, or if the original version featured one of the acts, and a later version added someone different- think Wale's "Bad."

[Golden Bluebird]

Oct 8, 2020 19:55:45 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

Kinda random question, as I'm not sure it's happened in recent times off-hand: Does Billboard still use the "or" credit when an act has multiple version of the same track, that feature different acts on each Of the versions? I'd think it would credit the version that has the most points, though in the past, it did use the "or" credit" on such tracks. Maybe it uses "or" if the versions have the same sound/production.

They've used it for Lil Nas X's "Rodeo", crediting the song as "Lil Nas X feat. Cardi B or Nas" back when the Nas remix was released.

[atg]

I remember the last top 10 song to do that was loyal by chris brown “ft lil wayne and tyga or french montana or too short”. I know it’s not the best example (and btw the video of it hit a billion views on yt), but that’s the closest i could find

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Oct 8, 2020 16:38:13 GMT -5 Choco said:

From the creators of the "throwaway remix to get to #1", comes the new version "throwaway remix to try to stay top 40 for a second week".

I know he removed M.I.A. because the fans didn't like it but i miss "trippin like im trigger happy / salt fish, ackee ackee". at least we still have "incredible, ici ici general"

future's verse is also a bit too long. i hate using the term "mumble rap" because its normally used in a shitty context to undermine the achievements of black male rappers, but he really does sound too mumble-y for my taste toward the end of his verse. imma just bop to the original

[kingvavis]

Any noteworthy releases tonight?

[iHype.]

Hot 100 charting songs with an 'or' credit in artists

"Picture" - Kid Rock Featuring Sheryl Crow Or Allison Moorer
"Come Close To Me" - Common Featuring Mary J. Blige Or Erykah Badu, Pharrell & Q-Tip
"Into You" - Fabolous Featuring Tamia Or Ashanti
"Why Don't You & I" - Santana Featuring Alex Band Or Chad Kroeger
"Party For Two" - Shania Twain With Billy Currington Or Mark McGrath
"I'm A Flirt" - Bow Wow Or R. Kelly (Featuring T.I. & T-Pain)
"Wasted" - Gucci Mane Featuring Plies Or OJ Da Juiceman
"Loca" - Shakira Featuring El Cata or Dizzee Rascal
"Piece" - Rick Ross Featuring Lil Wayne Or T.I.
"UP!" - LoveRance Featuring IamSu & Skipper or 50 Cent
"Crazy Kids" - Ke$ha Featuring will.i.am or Juicy J
"Bad" - Wale Featuring Tiara Thomas Or Rihanna
"Loyal" - Chris Brown Featuring Lil Wayne & French Montana Or & Too $hort
"***Flawless" - Beyonce Featuring Nicki Minaj Or Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
"Booty" - Jennifer Lopez Featuring Iggy Azalea Or Pitbull
"Duele El Corazon" - Enrique Iglesias Feat. Wisin or Tinashe & Javada
"Subeme La Radio" - Enrique Iglesias Featuring Descemer Bueno, Zion & Lennox Or Sean Paul
"Sativa" - Jhene Aiko Featuring Swae Lee Or Rae Sremmurd

[dovahduck]

Oct 8, 2020 21:38:24 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Hot 100 charting songs with an 'or' credit in artists

"Picture" - Kid Rock Featuring Sheryl Crow Or Allison Moorer
"Come Close To Me" - Common Featuring Mary J. Blige Or Erykah Badu, Pharrell & Q-Tip
"Into You" - Fabolous Featuring Tamia Or Ashanti
"Why Don't You & I" - Santana Featuring Alex Band Or Chad Kroeger
"Party For Two" - Shania Twain With Billy Currington Or Mark McGrath
"I'm A Flirt" - Bow Wow Or R. Kelly (Featuring T.I. & T-Pain)
"Wasted" - Gucci Mane Featuring Plies Or OJ Da Juiceman
"Loca" - Shakira Featuring El Cata or Dizzee Rascal
"Piece" - Rick Ross Featuring Lil Wayne Or T.I.
"UP!" - LoveRance Featuring IamSu & Skipper or 50 Cent
"Crazy Kids" - Ke$ha Featuring will.i.am or Juicy J
"Bad" - Wale Featuring Tiara Thomas Or Rihanna
"Loyal" - Chris Brown Featuring Lil Wayne & French Montana Or & Too $hort
"***Flawless" - Beyonce Featuring Nicki Minaj Or Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
"Booty" - Jennifer Lopez Featuring Iggy Azalea Or Pitbull
"Duele El Corazon" - Enrique Iglesias Feat. Wisin or Tinashe & Javada
"Subeme La Radio" - Enrique Iglesias Featuring Descemer Bueno, Zion & Lennox Or Sean Paul
"Sativa" - Jhene Aiko Featuring Swae Lee Or Rae Sremmurd

"Subeme La Radio" is a classic, if only it could've achieved a "Mi Gente" level of success. Latin music that year was just great in general.

[Abbaschand]

Oct 8, 2020 21:38:24 GMT -5 iHype. said:

"Sativa" - Jhene Aiko Featuring Swae Lee Or Rae Sremmurd

Seems kinda redundant.

[kimberly]

Oct 8, 2020 21:36:48 GMT -5 kingvavis said:

Any noteworthy releases tonight?

Bebe Rexha ft. Doja Cat coming to debut at #1

   

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Baby I'm Jealous is a genius collab: a singer with no personality and a rapper slowly losing anything that made her interesting

[JukeboxJacob]

Why are people sleeping on Midnight Sky?

[Gary]

Oct 8, 2020 21:38:24 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Hot 100 charting songs with an 'or' credit in artists

"Picture" - Kid Rock Featuring Sheryl Crow Or Allison Moorer
"Come Close To Me" - Common Featuring Mary J. Blige Or Erykah Badu, Pharrell & Q-Tip
"Into You" - Fabolous Featuring Tamia Or Ashanti
"Why Don't You & I" - Santana Featuring Alex Band Or Chad Kroeger
"Party For Two" - Shania Twain With Billy Currington Or Mark McGrath
"I'm A Flirt" - Bow Wow Or R. Kelly (Featuring T.I. & T-Pain)
"Wasted" - Gucci Mane Featuring Plies Or OJ Da Juiceman
"Loca" - Shakira Featuring El Cata or Dizzee Rascal
"Piece" - Rick Ross Featuring Lil Wayne Or T.I.
"UP!" - LoveRance Featuring IamSu & Skipper or 50 Cent
"Crazy Kids" - Ke$ha Featuring will.i.am or Juicy J
"Bad" - Wale Featuring Tiara Thomas Or Rihanna
"Loyal" - Chris Brown Featuring Lil Wayne & French Montana Or & Too $hort
"***Flawless" - Beyonce Featuring Nicki Minaj Or Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
"Booty" - Jennifer Lopez Featuring Iggy Azalea Or Pitbull
"Duele El Corazon" - Enrique Iglesias Feat. Wisin or Tinashe & Javada
"Subeme La Radio" - Enrique Iglesias Featuring Descemer Bueno, Zion & Lennox Or Sean Paul
"Sativa" - Jhene Aiko Featuring Swae Lee Or Rae Sremmurd

"Piece" - Rick Ross Featuring Lil Wayne Or T.I.

This is actually "9 Piece"

Here is another one for your list

Rodeo, Lil Nas X & Cardi B Or Nas

[kalmanta]

Oct 8, 2020 22:48:42 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

Why are people sleeping on Midnight Sky?

People always say an artist should reimagine him/herself every now and then, but I guess the constant 180s of her image aren’t doing her any favors. 

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Spotify - Week 10/07/20

1(=) Cardi B - WAP 9,144,643
2(=) 24kGoldn - Mood 8,780,080
3(debut) 21 Savage - Runnin 8,713,712
4(debut) 21 Savage - Mr. Right Now 8,639,420
5(=) Pop Smoke - For the Night 7,914,498
6(-3) Internet Money - Lemonade 7,694,109
7(-3) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 7,456,639
8(debut) 21 Savage - Glock in My Lap 6,196,066
9(debut) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 5,682,019
10(-3) Justin Bieber - Holy 5,335,610

11(+18) Fleetwood Mac - Dreams 5,308,749
12(+4) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 5,293,080
22(-11) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 4,529,618
26(debut) BLACKPINK - Bet You Wanna 4,006,689
27(debut) BLACKPINK - Lovesick Girls 3,953,974
30(debut) Bryson Tiller - Outta Time 3,710,964
32(-26) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE 3,560,595
52(debut) Internet Money - Lemonade Remix 2,896,042 
57(debut) Megan Thee Stallion - Don't Stop 2,776,557
58(+63) Clairo - Sofia 2,721,961
68(-43) Jawsh 365 - Savage Love 2,540,704
77(debut) Jawsh 365 - Savage Love Remix 2,431,081
81(debut) Miley Cyrus - Heart of Glass 2,372,666

Total Streams for Lemonade: 10,590,151 (#1 with streams combined)
Total Streams for Savage Love: 4,971,785 (#16 with streams combined)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Spotify 10/08/20

1(=) Cardi B - WAP 1,224,650 (-1,756)
2(=) 24kGoldn - Mood 1,215,491 (-4,366)
3(=) Pop Smoke - For the Night 1,125,879 (+9,078)
4(=) Internet Money - Lemonade 1,067,629 (-1,277)
5(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 1,037,299 (-6,473)
6(+2) Fleetwood Mac - Dreams 969,332 (+79,845)
7(-1) 21 Savage - Mr. Right Now 928,281 (-40,455)
8(-1) 21 Savage - Runnin 872,648 (-45,905)
9(+1) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 790,679 (+11,868)
10(-1) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 772,941 (-29,545)

21 Savage and Metro Boomin - SAVAGE MODE II:
22(-1) Glock In My Lap 562,643 (-33,740)
31(-3) Rich Ni*** Sh*t 465,591 (-28,735)
40(-5) Many Men 424,393 (-40,365)
47(-5) Slidin 404,605 (-37,664)

BLACKPINK - The Album:
35(-4) Lovesick Girls 442,754 (-41,233)
39(-2) Bet You Wanna 427,680 (-33,228)
96(-7) Ice Cream 288,665 (-16,568)

Others:
11(=) Justin Bieber - Holy 738,256 (-16,153)
12(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 704,984 (+326)
16(-1) BTS - Dynamite 657,312 (+1,568)
17(+1) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 654,362 (+9,938)
18(-1) Conan Gray - Heather 640,386 (-11,927)
19(=) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 617,416 (-17,794)
21(+1) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 564,332 (-3,263)
23(=) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 558,782 (-6,703)
24(=) Tate McRae - you broke me first 540,013 (-12,445)
26(+1) Pop Smoke - Mood Swings 507,311 (+8,705)
27(+2) Polo G - Martin & Gina 497,954 (+4,173)
28(+2) Money Man - 24 496,583 (+10,113)
32(+4) Big Sean - Wolves 464,216 (+1,234)
33(-1) Clairo - Sofia 463,268 (-15,748)
34(+5) Juice WRLD - Smile 453,152 (+6,293)
37(+8) Internet Money - Lemonade Remix 437,697 (+9,208)
45(-1) Machine Gun Kelly - forget me too 413,425 (-15,520)
46(-21) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE 408,707 (-107,571)
48(+3) Pop Smoke - The Woo 402,088 (+4,057)
51(+5) Morgan Wallen - 7 Summers 397,307 (+13,513)
56(+3) Ashnikko - Daisy 366,554 (-1,661)
59(+3) BØRNS - Electric Love 357,240 (-1,656)
62(-1) Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky 348,871 (-10,363)
65(+8) Jawsh 465 - Savage Love 343,885 (+3,930)
67(+3) Maluma - Hawái 340,743 (-5,253)
71(=) Bryson Tiller - Outta Time 329,990 (-15,772)
72(+58) CORPSE and Savage Ga$p - E-GIRLS ARE RUINING MY LIFE! 329,852 (+73,504)
76(=) Joel Corry - Head & Heart 319,537 (-15,337)
84(-4) Megan Thee Stallion - Don't Stop 308,853 (-12,845)
85(-2) Topic - Breaking Me 306,597 (-8,981)
86(+1) Jawsh 365 - Savage Love Remix 306,467 (+119)
88(+5) JP Saxe - If the World Was Ending 301,042 (-313)
90(+1) Machine Gun Kelly - bloody valentine 296,437 (-6,881)
95(+21) Fleetwood Mac - The Chain 288,916 (+14,654)
99(+5) Vedo - You Got It 286,550 (-2,565)

107(+2) salem ilese - Mad at Disney 279,884 (-3,610)
110(debut) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE Remix 273,052
112(+1) Labrinth - Still Don't Know My Name 272,558 (-4,532)
118(+9) Harry Styles - Falling 261,569 (-1,291)
119(+9) Lil Peep - Star Shopping 260,753 (-895)
120(+1) Jason Derulo - Take You Dancing 260,422 (-5,913)
125(-84) Van Halen - Jump 252,828 (-193,445)
129(-89) Van Halen - Panama 250,391 (-196,019)
143(+36) Fleetwood Mac - Landslide 242,946 (+15,892)
148(-110) Van Halen - Runnin' with the Devil 241,858 (-209,925)

Total Streams for Savage Love: 650,352
Total Streams for Lemonade: 1,505,326
Total Streams for FRANCHISE: 681,759

Biggest Gains (50K+): E-GIRLS ARE RUINING MY LIFE!, Dreams

[Deleted]

what is "e girls are ruining my life"

[annoymous1]

Wow...Dreams at 6 on spotify.

[kalmanta]

Dreams being #13 on AM is more impressive to me, I‘m absolutely floored by its success.

[HolidayGuy]

Thanks for the "or" instances. :) Seems like most, if not all, were instances of the original recording featuring one act, and then a new version with another act released later on.

And, yep- crazy to see "Dreams" doing as well as it is in streaming, particularly at AM.

[renfield75]

"Dreams" may turn into another "Don't Stop Believin'". Had recurrent rules in the mid 2000s been what they are now that song would have been huge on the Hot 100, maybe even outdoing its original #9 peak. It's cool to see younger generations discover and latch onto a classic.

[ddlz]

[golfradio]

I always misread that Sativa credit as "Swae Lee of Rae Sremmurd", just now realizing that there's a non-album remix that features both members.

[thelegends]

Oct 8, 2020 22:07:39 GMT -5 Abbaschand said:

Oct 8, 2020 21:38:24 GMT -5 iHype. said:

"Sativa" - Jhene Aiko Featuring Swae Lee Or Rae Sremmurd

Seems kinda redundant.

No because there is Slim Jxmmi on the Rae Sremmurd version.

[thegreatdivine]

[kierz7]

Oct 9, 2020 9:23:50 GMT -5 ddlz said:

Have they paid him his MILLION-DOLLAR cheque yet?

🌚

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

I can see Wonder have a -10 or worse eighth day correction for tomorrow's update. On the latest top 40 currents radio callouts, Be Like That has the best positive score, with Breaking Me as the worst one.

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/10/09

1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 137.31(-0.08) +
2(=) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 121.00(-0.92)
3(=) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 118.48(-0.07) +
4(=) Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat) 115.87(-0.55)
5(=) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 115.33(+1.14)
6(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) 103.94(-1.23)
7(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk) 90.36(+0.14)
8(=) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 89.08(-0.74)
9(=) Post Malone - Circles 87.70(-0.54)
10(+1) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 84.98(+2.14)

12(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 79.67(+0.89)

13(=) Surf Mesa - ily (i love you baby) [feat. Emilee] 66.46(+0.97)

20(=) Tim McGraw - I Called Mama 57.88(+1.86)

21(+2) Jameson Rodgers - Some Girls 50.20(+0.81)

25(+2) Ava Max - Kings & Queens 48.95(+0.74)

30(=) Morgan Wallen - More Than My Hometown 43.20(+0.71)

31(+3) Russell Dickerson - Love You Like I Used To 41.40(+0.76)

34(+11) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 40.81(+4.59)

39(+2) BTS - Dynamite 38.61(+1.02)

59(+4) Kenny Chesney - Happy Does 28.34(+0.74)

97(+12) Megan Thee Stallion - Don't Stop (feat. Young Thug) 17.36(+1.81)

-(-) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 15.52(+1.88)

-(-) Internet Money & Gunna - Lemonade (feat. Don Toliver & NAV) 12.20(+0.73)

-(-) AC/DC - Shot in the Dark 4.48(+0.79)

[annoymous1]

Yay! Mood is in the top 10 on radio.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Mood is the next Circles

[m450n]

Oct 8, 2020 22:21:22 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Baby I'm Jealous is a genius collab: a singer with no personality and a rapper slowly losing anything that made her interesting

What made her interesting?

[iggyamo]

Oct 9, 2020 6:30:00 GMT -5 trilogy said:

what is "e girls are ruining my life"

It’s a Youtuber song, who’s entire catalogue seems to be surging for some reason