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Post by shaz196 on Oct 18, 2020 16:30:52 GMT -5
Adele's album is coming on 27 November.the single probably next week says whomst?!  |
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Post by Limited Edition on Oct 18, 2020 17:29:28 GMT -5
October 30, 2020 Ariana vs. Adele vs. Tori Kelly 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 one of these things is not like the others  Actually two because Tori is a better singer than both :) |
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 18, 2020 17:51:17 GMT -5
Right, unlike Ariana, the other two have multiple Grammys.
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Oct 18, 2020 18:00:18 GMT -5
Right, unlike Ariana, the other two have multiple Grammys. Ariana has more #1s than Tori chart entries.  this reminds me of stan twitter..I'm done. |
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Post by kimberly on Oct 18, 2020 18:13:25 GMT -5
one of these things is not like the others Actually two because Tori is a better singer than both  lmaooo I'm here for all the Tori Kelly love. she's very talented. "better singer" than Selena Gomez and Post Malone? yeah absolutely. Adele and Ariana Grande? don't know about that. the point is, Tori Kelly won't be challenging for BB200 #1 with her Christmas album release in October. especially when her last album peaked at #97 and her 2020 EP (which I enjoy, actually) failed to chart. |
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Post by missgenericnickname on Oct 18, 2020 18:15:23 GMT -5
Anyways there goes Jason's career that he had back for 3 months....
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Oct 18, 2020 18:28:39 GMT -5
Am I getting whooshed, because I'm pretty sure iHype's post was at least partially intended as a joke
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Post by degen on Oct 18, 2020 18:31:53 GMT -5
What a bizarre strategy that Ari is dropping a whole album 1 week later. Why not just push the album to December and drop the 2nd single along with the album a week later? This era will come and go just like Taylor’s last album because of these bizarre methods. I get that album cycles are much faster in the streaming era, but there are ways to be smarter. Why are artists/managements intentionally doing rapid releases.
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Post by kimberly on Oct 18, 2020 18:33:57 GMT -5
Am I getting whooshed, because I'm pretty sure iHype's post was at least partially intended as a joke yeah I think so too, and my response was intended to be playful as well. idk why these folks thought I was coming for Tori Kelly 💀 |
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Post by Push The Button on Oct 18, 2020 18:46:50 GMT -5
Ariana should just release everything this week.
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Post by GW on Oct 18, 2020 19:00:41 GMT -5
What a bizarre strategy that Ari is dropping a whole album 1 week later. Why not just push the album to December and drop the 2nd single along with the album a week later? This era will come and go just like Taylor’s last album because of these bizarre methods. I get that album cycles are much faster in the streaming era, but there are ways to be smarter. Why are artists/managements intentionally doing rapid releases. Maybe the album isn't the type of album that warrants a traditional rollout and longevity isn't a priority? Like Folklore, as you mentioned. Not every main pop girl project has to be marketed for a huge era, especially in a pandemic. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 18, 2020 19:17:52 GMT -5
What a bizarre strategy that Ari is dropping a whole album 1 week later. Why not just push the album to December and drop the 2nd single along with the album a week later? This era will come and go just like Taylor’s last album because of these bizarre methods. I get that album cycles are much faster in the streaming era, but there are ways to be smarter. Why are artists/managements intentionally doing rapid releases. sweetener: 6 wks t10 dangerous: 8 wks t10 everything: 6 wks t10 truly: 2 wks t10 Ariana obviously has much more experience having her albums come & go. |
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Post by ccchui on Oct 18, 2020 19:35:24 GMT -5
So with Adele confirmed doing SNL next week.....will that means Adele is also dropping her new single on Oct 23, the same day as Ariana.....it will be interesting to see
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Post by kimberly on Oct 18, 2020 19:58:54 GMT -5
So with Adele confirmed doing SNL next week.....will that means Adele is also dropping her new single on Oct 23, the same day as Ariana.....it will be interesting to see no. Adele won't be doing a musical performance on SNL. she's the host. the musical guest of the episode is H.E.R., so unless Adele is coming back with a H.E.R. collaboration, I don't see why she'd drop her song this Friday. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 18, 2020 21:09:30 GMT -5
So with Adele confirmed doing SNL next week.....will that means Adele is also dropping her new single on Oct 23, the same day as Ariana.....it will be interesting to see no. Adele won't be doing a musical performance on SNL. she's the host. the musical guest of the episode is H.E.R., so unless Adele is coming back with a H.E.R. collaboration, I don't see why she'd drop her song this Friday. A H.E.R. collab would definitely be clout chasing for H.E.R., that's for sure... |
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Post by kimberly on Oct 18, 2020 22:26:16 GMT -5
no. Adele won't be doing a musical performance on SNL. she's the host. the musical guest of the episode is H.E.R., so unless Adele is coming back with a H.E.R. collaboration, I don't see why she'd drop her song this Friday. A H.E.R. collab would definitely be clout chasing for H.E.R., that's for sure... H.E.R. doing charity, Adele flop, hasn't charted a song in 4 years |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 23:44:21 GMT -5
A H.E.R. collab would definitely be clout chasing for H.E.R., that's for sure... H.E.R. doing charity, Adele flop, hasn't charted a song in 4 years I see you used the word 'song' in your sentence. Is this a reference to Taylor Swift's 2007 country pop classic Our Song? |
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Post by iggyamo on Oct 19, 2020 0:40:31 GMT -5
Saw an obviously fake rumor about an Ungodly Hour remix with Ariana Grande and now I’m unbelievably sad the song is never going to chart.
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Post by kacpi on Oct 19, 2020 8:03:27 GMT -5
What a bizarre strategy that Ari is dropping a whole album 1 week later. Why not just push the album to December and drop the 2nd single along with the album a week later? This era will come and go just like Taylor’s last album because of these bizarre methods. I get that album cycles are much faster in the streaming era, but there are ways to be smarter. Why are artists/managements intentionally doing rapid releases. Honestly I don't see how this strategy is bizarre, releasing an album in December actually seems stranger than that. Also I don't see how folklore is a "come and go" era? The album spent seven weeks atop Billboard 200 and just re-entered the top 10 in the latest chart. A lot of folklore tracks (non-singles) spent several weeks on the BH100, not mentioning three songs debuting in the top 10. If that is a "come and go" type of era, I wanna know which one is not. |
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Post by degen on Oct 19, 2020 8:55:11 GMT -5
What a bizarre strategy that Ari is dropping a whole album 1 week later. Why not just push the album to December and drop the 2nd single along with the album a week later? This era will come and go just like Taylor’s last album because of these bizarre methods. I get that album cycles are much faster in the streaming era, but there are ways to be smarter. Why are artists/managements intentionally doing rapid releases. Honestly I don't see how this strategy is bizarre, releasing an album in December actually seems stranger than that. Also I don't see how folklore is a "come and go" era? The album spent seven weeks atop Billboard 200 and just re-entered the top 10 in the latest chart. A lot of folklore tracks (non-singles) spent several weeks on the BH100, not mentioning three songs debuting in the top 10. If that is a "come and go" type of era, I wanna know which one is not. If you are a Taylor fan, sure it’s not a come and go era. But pop eras are driven by singles for public consumption, whether you want to admit it or not. Without multiple singles, you are closing your walls in on a small fanbase and the era becomes a non event for the general public. I see no point to drop a whole album 1 week after a comeback single. At the very least wait a month, hype it up and then drop a 2nd single before the album bomb. There’s nothing wrong with asking for more hype, promo and single exposure. For example what’s going to happen to Ari’s 2nd single off this era? We will get the 1st single and then the album bomb happens, how will they expect to push a 2nd single later down the line? There’s the cheap remix methods but don’t even get me started with those. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 19, 2020 8:59:16 GMT -5
Honestly I don't see how this strategy is bizarre, releasing an album in December actually seems stranger than that. Also I don't see how folklore is a "come and go" era? The album spent seven weeks atop Billboard 200 and just re-entered the top 10 in the latest chart. A lot of folklore tracks (non-singles) spent several weeks on the BH100, not mentioning three songs debuting in the top 10. If that is a "come and go" type of era, I wanna know which one is not. If you are a Taylor fan, sure it’s not a come and go era. But pop eras are driven by singles for public consumption, whether you want to admit it or not. Without multiple singles, you are closing your walls in on a small fanbase and the era becomes a non event for the general public. I see no point to drop a whole album 1 week after a comeback single. At the very least wait a month, hype it up and then drop a 2nd single before the album bomb. There’s nothing wrong with asking for more hype, promo and single exposure. For example what’s going to happen to Ari’s 2nd single off this era? We will get the 1st single and then the album bomb happens, how will they expect to push a 2nd single later down the line? well folklore: a. has only been out for three months at this point, b. is still one of the best-selling albums of the year so it is big regardless of whether it has smash singles or not, and c. was marketted as a deviation from her usual style. I'm not surprised a folk pop album isn't big on singles or on streaming, even if it is Taylor Swift. I mean I'd say it's on equal footing with Chromatica in terms of one big number one hit so far, while subsequent singles have underperformed (although again, folklore's only been out for three months so let's wait for Taylor to promote other singles before saying this era is over) Also post-album singles are still successful in the streaming age. Watermelon Sugar became Harry Styles' highest charting song thanks to an airplay run and music video months after the album was released and Levitating is getting a boost as we speak. It's not impossible. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 19, 2020 9:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 19, 2020 9:38:24 GMT -5
It would be funny if every album followed the same release strategy to ensure success. Because that wouldn’t ever not fail.
There’s a reason why Beyoncé is revered for her marketing strategies. Sometimes doing a different schedule is in itself a success. So let’s continue to call attention to Folklore’s failure as an extended era while that very album continues to sell and stream its way to be one of the year’s biggest.
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Post by Raccoon on Oct 19, 2020 10:23:34 GMT -5
Why do we need to have one single at a time these days. The fast rollouts are because of that.
Nobody cares or listens to radio, so sure they can send a song there but pushing the whole album out soon makes sense.
Side comment - Love the Tori Kelly EP.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 19, 2020 10:36:45 GMT -5
Spotify 10/18/20
1(=) Internet Money - Lemonade 1,151,554 (-168,194)
2(=) Cardi B - WAP 1,109,999 (-163,926)
3(=) 24kGoldn - Mood 1,062,741 (-166,209)
4(=) Pop Smoke - For the Night 1,049,684 (-152,875)
5(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 852,520 (-145,612)
6(=) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 815,483 (-115,023)
7(=) Fleetwood Mac - Dreams 720,432 (-113,623)
8(=) Justin Bieber - Holy 682,448 (-70,417)
9(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 642,634 (-99,405)
10(=) Justin Bieber - Lonely 637,648 (-82,142)
Others:
13(+3) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 592,570 (-74,626)
14(-3) 21 Savage - Mr. Right Now 586,189 (-115,220)
16(+1) BTS - Dynamite 565,855 (-52,459)
17(-2) 21 Savage - Runnin 559,498 (-109,783)
18(+3) Conan Gray - Heather 559,289 (-23,409)
20(-1) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 531,996 (-62,634)
23(+2) Tate McRae - you broke me first 489,615 (-46,547)
24(=) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 475,588 (-62,570)
25(-2) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 474,521 (-61,641)
27(-1) Polo G - Martin & Gina 470,162 (-64,289)
28(=) Money Man - 24 435,145 (-71,652)
29(+3) Clairo - Sofia 432,748 (-18,560)
39(-2) Jawsh 465 - Savage Love 386,006 (-50,999)
42(+3) Ashnikko - Daisy 365,033 (-28,863)
43(=) Big Sean - Wolves 358,867 (-60,311)
44(-3) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE 354,344 (-67,559)
53(-2) Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky 321,014 (-41,146)
54(-6) Maluma - Hawái 320,237 (-49,423)
56(+9) BØRNS - Electric Love 311,397 (-30,224)
59(-5) Morgan Wallen - 7 Summers 301,901 (-55,175)
63(-8) 21 Savage - Glock in My Lap 296,080 (-57,039)
65(-7) Dua Lipa - Levitating 294,455 (-55,551)
72(-8) Joel Corry - Head & Heart 284,186 (-58,868)
80(-21) Sada Baby - Whole Lotta Choppas Remix 280,621 (-67,803)
90(-4) DDG - Moonwalking in the Calabasas 266,498 (-37,239)
93(-31) G-Eazy - Hate The Way 262,280 (-84,162)
95(-21) Yung Bleu - You're Mines Still 261,948 (-56,597)
102(+12) CORPSE and Savage Ga$p - E-GIRLS ARE RUINING MY LIFE! 245,442 (-14,475)
109(+22) Harry Styles - Falling 240,466 (-7,558)
110(+2) salem ilese - Mad at Disney 239,225 (-21,791)
111(+8) Labrinth - Still Don't Know My Name 238,676 (-15,901)
114(+23) Lil Peep - Star Shopping 235,719 (-7,679)
115(+59) James Arthur - Train Wreck 235,623 (+13,056)
116(+25) The Neighbourhood - Daddy Issues 234,055 (-7,309)
117(-9) Jason Derulo - Take You Dancing 233,653 (-40,222)
122(+3) Vedo - You Got It 228,243 (-24,192)
140(-23) Fleetwood Mac - The Chain 215,435 (-40,550)
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Post by andrebra on Oct 19, 2020 11:36:07 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why Train Wreck by James Arthur is surging on Spotify and Apple lol
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Post by ddlz on Oct 19, 2020 11:44:00 GMT -5
iTunes #1 Bieber - Holy #2 Bieber - Lonely #68 Bieber - Lonely Spotify #8 Bieber - Holy #10 Bieber - Lonely Apple #17 (+10) Bieber - Lonely #18 (+6) Bieber - Holy  |
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Post by jodakyellow on Oct 19, 2020 11:57:24 GMT -5
H.E.R. doing charity, Adele flop, hasn't charted a song in 4 years I see you used the word 'song' in your sentence. Is this a reference to Taylor Swift's 2007 country pop classic Our Song? god damn it you're doing a bit |
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Post by sheardbeard on Oct 19, 2020 14:45:02 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why Train Wreck by James Arthur is surging on Spotify and Apple lol I think the default answer nowadays for questions such as this is "because TikTok". |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2020 14:57:10 GMT -5
I see you used the word 'song' in your sentence. Is this a reference to Taylor Swift's 2007 country pop classic Our Song? god damn it you're doing a bit Is there a problem with that? |
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