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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jan 12, 2021 21:09:17 GMT -5
Not y'all feeding the troll
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 21:12:09 GMT -5
Name me the last five rock songs that have hit the top ten on the hot 100 that has broad support, as in say 60% of posters commenting on the song, saying they like the song vs they hate it. Okay - after you name the hundreds of rock songs Pulse has scoffed at. In all seriousness, I doubt youβd find many songs in general that get 60% support from people in here. Most might be indifferent. Iβll also remind you that Pulse is more than the Hot 100 threads. We have an entire forum dedicated to rock and alternative music where there are many rock fans (most of whom would give you major side-eye over your insistence that Bang is a rock song btw). My guess is that over the years, rock fans have moved away from following the Hot 100 because of trends in pop music, as well as rock music itself having a major decline over the last decade and a half. They choose to follow radio charts, where most pop-leaning songs are kept to a minimum (except alternative radio, I suppose). So really, youβre whining at a bunch of pop, R&B and rap fans because they donβt care about rock. Who said there needs to be a solution. I'm not attempting to do anything, usually an acknowledgement a point was made is done and everyone moves on. That's in real life. Pulse though seems to rather to rip stuff apart than admit anything. Fair enough, but I figured all of my posts before were indicative that I didnβt necessarily agree - for reasons explained just above. Because I'm in a hot 100 thread talking about the hot 100? So of course it is the opinions expressed in this thread that matter to this thread. Not how it is observed elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 21:14:59 GMT -5
If you hate and disagree with Pulse so much, why don't you just leave? Who said anything about hate? Ow right,mits the internet, why do I keep forgettinga, the slightest point of disagreement means hate! i don't hate pulse. I don't hate the hot Qpp thread, it does however contain about 70% hypocrisy. Which working to remove by staying will make the threads better.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 12, 2021 21:19:12 GMT -5
Hypocracy because fans of non-rock music donβt like rock music. Okay
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 21:26:08 GMT -5
Hypocracy because fans of non-rock music donβt like rock music. Okay I didn't say that and you know I didn't say that. I didn't even mention rock in my statement. Why do people always need to add what people don't say?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 21:41:46 GMT -5
Hypocracy because fans of non-rock music donβt like rock music. Okay For the record, there's a lot of songs or genres I am not a fan of. I see no reason to go ahead and rail against them in public.
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Post by iHype. on Jan 12, 2021 21:44:24 GMT -5
This is someone who got permabanned from another forum for derailing with the most random arguments in the Hot 100 thread every single week. It's a job for them. Uh. Wrong person. Unless you have proof. Stop the lies and slander. ChartsFan you ain't slick. Your time is running low again!
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jan 12, 2021 22:05:29 GMT -5
Once again, you said: Strictly speaking, it isn't "always". You simply seem content on narrowing in on examples to suit your narrative. Such as your Bloody Valentine example, which is labeled as "pop punk" on Wikipedia, which happens to be a sub-genre of rock. This is such a strange hill you're choosing to climb; one where you insist "Bang!" is a rock song because Billboard said so, but "Bloody Valentine" is a pop song, but okay. Name me the last five rock songs that have hit the top ten on the hot 100 that has broad support, as in say 60% of posters commenting on the song, saying they like the song vs they hate it. Y'know maybe the reason people are trashing the "rock songs" that enter that charts isn't because they hate rock but because mainstream rock songs as a whole sucks. Similar to the reason that when we bash most trap songs, most trap songs also suck Go outside the forums talking about charts and you'll see people praising acts like actual good rock acts like Phoebe Bridgers, Fiona Apple, and others
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Post by Kurt on Jan 12, 2021 22:09:27 GMT -5
This is the Hot 100 thread. None of you are charting on the Hot 100 that I'm aware, so please keep the discussion on the appropriate subject β not each other.
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Post by Groovy on Jan 12, 2021 22:44:01 GMT -5
How did this even get to where we're at right now? How did this thread go from talking about what's rock and what's not to what everybody else does?
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jan 12, 2021 22:52:57 GMT -5
Pulse hates Someone You Loved and If the World was Ending dey: omg Pulse hates Piano ballads
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Post by Groovy on Jan 12, 2021 22:54:53 GMT -5
Back to the charts, big number 1 coming next week with monster streaming and great sales and giving us the strong number 1 we needed since September/October.
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Post by Groovy on Jan 12, 2021 23:12:40 GMT -5
As for the current Hot 100, - Weak top 10, the number 1 song on streaming is one of the weakest in the streaming era.
- We got a few returning entries (mainly from Morgan Wallen) coming back after all the Christmas dropped off.
- Only one of the nine new entries made the top 50 (hell even the top 70), all of the others are at the bottom.
- Almost all of the songs on the Hot 100 gained this week thanks to the Christmas music exiting.
Overall, nothing really going on, we got a few new entries to the top 10 and a high debut but nothing really to mention.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 13, 2021 0:48:09 GMT -5
Yet we are still at 28 pages of talking about a rather boring chart week because chart talk got personal.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 13, 2021 4:58:48 GMT -5
Songs in the bottom 25 on Hot 100 are so random. Like basically all medium-sized country hits and old rap songs are back on chart. Surely in general popularity those are like around top 300 or sth lol
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jan 13, 2021 6:11:27 GMT -5
^It's a miracle that he got three top 10 hits and a number 1 after that abomination of a song Yummy was released. Well...
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jan 13, 2021 8:42:20 GMT -5
imagine going one week back in time and explaining this To us from last week: there's a new debut single from this 17 year-old that's going viral, it could debut in the charts the week after this week
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Post by kacpi on Jan 13, 2021 8:55:04 GMT -5
imagine going one week back in time and explaining this To us from last week: there's a new debut single from this 17 year-old that's going viral, it could debut in the charts the week after this week πππππ you did not just
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 9:42:04 GMT -5
imagine going one week back in time and explaining this To us from last week: there's a new debut single from this 17 year-old that's going viral, it could debut in the charts the week after this week She has already had a hot 100 hit. It is not a debut single.
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Post by gatlin77 on Jan 13, 2021 19:11:55 GMT -5
To us from last week: there's a new debut single from this 17 year-old that's going viral, it could debut in the charts the week after this week She has already had a hot 100 hit. It is not a debut single. By debut single, dremolus meant that it's her first single as an independent artist rather than her first single to debut on the Hot 100. Her other Hot 100 hit (hits? I know another one of her songs from High School Musical: The Musical: The Series charted in New Zealand) was from the soundtrack for the Disney+ series I previously mentioned. This is her own music.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 13, 2021 19:16:50 GMT -5
Does it matter? Itβs not her chart debut so even if it ends up being her big breakthrough, itβs not going to be cited as being her debut.
Talk about nitpicking
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 19:18:02 GMT -5
She has already had a hot 100 hit. It is not a debut single. By debut single, dremolus meant that it's her first single as an independent artist rather than her first single to debut on the Hot 100. Her other Hot 100 hit (hits? I know another one of her songs from High School Musical: The Musical: The Series charted in New Zealand) was from the soundtrack for the Disney+ series I previously mentioned. This is her own music. She wrote the song, there was an official video. The song went gold with RIAA. It received unsolicited pop radio AirPlay,
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Post by Gary on Jan 13, 2021 19:21:35 GMT -5
A little fun fact - Billboard makes reference to both in the same sentence. It is a debut single and yes she has charted before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 19:23:32 GMT -5
Does it matter? Itβs not her chart debut so even if it ends up being her big breakthrough, itβs not going to be cited as being her debut. Talk about nitpicking There's a long history of revisionism in music charts in order to generate bether publicity, both by artists/labels and the charts themselves. alanis morrossette is about the pinnacle,e of the madness.
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Post by gatlin77 on Jan 13, 2021 19:23:53 GMT -5
By debut single, dremolus meant that it's her first single as an independent artist rather than her first single to debut on the Hot 100. Her other Hot 100 hit (hits? I know another one of her songs from High School Musical: The Musical: The Series charted in New Zealand) was from the soundtrack for the Disney+ series I previously mentioned. This is her own music. She wrote the song, there was an official video. The song went gold with RIAA. It received unsolicited pop radio AirPlay, While that is a valid point, if you search up "Olivia Rodrigo debut single," "drivers license" is what comes up first. Every news publication talking about the records the song has broken has referred to it as her debut single. Wasn't it you who stubbornly stuck to calling "Bang!" a rock song because of Billboard? In this article cited below, Billboard itself calls it her "official debut single." www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9510236/olivia-rodrigo-drivers-license-hit-song-2021/Have a nice dey! Edit: I just realized Gary said it first. My bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 19:29:31 GMT -5
She wrote the song, there was an official video. The song went gold with RIAA. It received unsolicited pop radio AirPlay, While that is a valid point, if you search up "Olivia Rodrigo debut single," "drivers license" is what comes up first. Every news publication talking about the records the song has broken has referred to it as her debut single. Wasn't it you who stubbornly stuck to calling "Bang!" a rock song because of Billboard? In this article cited below, Billboard itself calls it her "official debut single." www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9510236/olivia-rodrigo-drivers-license-hit-song-2021/Have a nice dey! Edit: I just realized Gary said it first. My bad. Official debut single - drivers license, debut single - all I want, for marketing purposes look for the next song to be called the ultimate debut single. i remember back in 2012 I took an mba level course at the local university. It was paid for so why not take it. Anyway I recall the very first thing the professor who was the dean of the business faculty said, even before her name, "anyone that passes in a paper that quotes either google or Wikipedia as a source gets an F in this course.".
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Post by Choco on Jan 13, 2021 19:30:34 GMT -5
See y'all next week or so.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 13, 2021 19:33:50 GMT -5
Does it matter? Itβs not her chart debut so even if it ends up being her big breakthrough, itβs not going to be cited as being her debut. Talk about nitpicking There's a long history of revisionism in music charts in order to generate bether publicity, both by artists/labels and the charts themselves. alanis morrossette is about the pinnacle,e of the madness. N-I-T-P-I-C-K-I-N-G
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Post by Gary on Jan 13, 2021 19:38:04 GMT -5
As we have established that Billboard calls it a "debut single" regardless of briefly charting a year ago This should hopefully be the ringing endorsement we all are looking for whether or not we all here agree to finish this Billboard might be a bad judge. However, in their house it is their rules that is all that matters.
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Post by Groovy on Jan 13, 2021 19:40:33 GMT -5
I said in the other thread and I'll say it here, who the hell cares if it's her first single or not? Just enjoy the song and move on, there's no need to be a whole argument on whether it is or isn't.
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